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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: chargeradiocom on July 03, 2020, 02:03:27 PM
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According to a recent Facebook post from an apparent high-ranking official at Pluto TV, it looks like a collab between CBSViacom and Fremantle may be in the works to finally bring Barker-era The Price is Right back to TV.
There was a recent post (https://www.facebook.com/groups/PlutoTVFans/permalink/560224157989679/) on the Pluto TV Viewers and Fans Facebook group, asking if BUZZR could air Barker TPIR and Wheel of Fortune.
After the obligatory explanation of why that’s not happening at the moment, and some other comments requesting shows that probably aren’t realistic ATM, a poster named Amy Beth Kuessner commented that Pluto will soon be adding a 24/7 Bob Barker channel. Amy is Pluto’s Senior VP of Content Strategy & Global Partnerships according to her LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-kuessner-614772), and she has leaked info in the past to the group about forthcoming content on Pluto that proved to be accurate.
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that Pluto will soon be adding a 24/7 Bob Barker channel.
...only airing Truth or Consequences.
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that Pluto will soon be adding a 24/7 Bob Barker channel.
...only airing Truth or Consequences.
Or his appearances on Feud, Tattletales and Match Game. 24/7 ad nauseum.
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I for one am looking forward to around-the-clock content recently created by the 96-year-old Barker.
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...only airing Truth or Consequences.
Or his appearances on Feud, Tattletales and Match Game. 24/7 ad nauseum.
I did think of a bait-&-switch where it’s 24/7 TorC, his other G-T appearances, & the occasional airing of Happy Gilmore.
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that Pluto will soon be adding a 24/7 Bob Barker channel.
...only airing Truth or Consequences.
Worse...just airing The Family Game.
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that Pluto will soon be adding a 24/7 Bob Barker channel.
...only airing Truth or Consequences.
Worse...just airing The Family Game.
Or That's My Line
Eep.
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that Pluto will soon be adding a 24/7 Bob Barker channel.
...only airing Truth or Consequences.
Worse...just airing The Family Game.
Or That's My Line
Eep.
Though it would be great to continually air this clip from that show:
https://youtu.be/Z6mnq8XT5dc?t=443
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Are we sure it's a Bob Barker channel and not just a barker channel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barker_channel)?
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I remember our single pay-per-view channel having something on around 6 in the morning called Barker Previews and I convinced my parents to tape it one day thinking it was something cooler than it actually was.
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I for one am looking forward to around-the-clock content recently created by the 96-year-old Barker.
You win, sir.
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Or his appearances on Feud, Tattletales and Match Game. 24/7 ad nauseum.
Serious question: do we have any idea how much content that would be? I would imagine only about three days' worth.
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Or his appearances on Feud, Tattletales and Match Game. 24/7 ad nauseum.
Serious question: do we have any idea how much content that would be? I would imagine only about three days' worth.
In the Plutoverse, that’s just right. A lot of their channels cycle through their content in way less time.
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It could always be a 24/7 infomerical shopping channel for the Bob Barker Company:
https://www.bobbarker.com/https://www.bobbarker.com/
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Let's say hypothetically, there was a marathon of all of Bob's daytime episodes. Let's do some math:
Judging by Steve Gavazzi's season-by-season episode count (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,27515.msg480436.html#msg480436) that he recently posted and his FAQ, there were 6,731 episodes in TPiR's first 35 seasons. Of those, Seasons 1-3, 8 of the first 9 weeks of Season 4, 16 episodes throughout Seasons 4-7 (for CBS Magazine), plus another 6 episodes from 1984-1994 (for the Pillsbury Bakeoff) were all half hour episodes.
There were 736 episodes in Seasons 1-3. So, 736 + 40 + 16 + 6 = 798 half-hour episodes, which leaves 5,933 hour-long episodes.
798 * 22 minutes = 17,556 minutes, 292.6 hours, or 12.19 days
5933 * 42 minutes (an average of run times from 1975-2007) = 249,186 minutes, 4,153.1 hours, or 173.05 days
This means that it would take about 185 days for every Barker episode to run back-to-back with no commercials.
Of course, there's the tiny matter of converting all those tapes, which will probably take something like 25 years, at the rate they're going with Buzzr.
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Are we sure it's a Bob Barker channel and not just a barker channel?
Not this barker channel?
https://youtu.be/ELbi6E5skeo?t=32
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Of course, there's the tiny matter of converting all those tapes, which will probably take something like 25 years, at the rate they're going with Buzzr.
My guess is that most of the content Buzzr airs has been already converted in its entirely. Fremantle is just stretching putting it on air as long as possible.
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Of course, there's the tiny matter of converting all those tapes, which will probably take something like 25 years, at the rate they're going with Buzzr.
My guess is that most of the content Buzzr airs has been already converted in its entirely. Fremantle is just stretching putting it on air as long as possible.
Not according to numerous statements from the bigwigs at Buzzr. They're digitizing as they go along.
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Are we sure it's a Bob Barker channel and not just a barker channel?
Not this barker channel?
https://youtu.be/ELbi6E5skeo?t=32
In the FB post, Kuessner did specify Bob Barker. (Link again (https://facebook.com/groups/PlutoTVFans/permalink/560224157989679), in case you missed it.)
Besides, Pluto already pretty much has the other Barker market covered (https://pluto.tv/live-tv/dogs-247).
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Her exact words: "Bob Barker is coming!"
Dian said the same thing.
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According to this article, Pluto just cut a deal with CBS & Comedy Central. It lists 40 shows coming and while TPIR isn't on that list, the fact that Pluto has a deal with CBS is promising. Also listed coming to Pluto out of the deal is (Reality/GS wise) Survivor & The Amazing Race
https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/pluto-tv-will-begin-adding-40-cbs-comedy-central-shows-to-its-free-platform-next-week/?source=home
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Her exact words: "Bob Barker is coming!"
Dian said the same thing.
"Say my name, bitch!"
/good luck getting THAT voice out of your head
//you're welcome
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"Say my name, bitch!”
thanks i hate it
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I can never unread what Kathleen said Dian told her about Barker
Sometimes, he likes to get on all fours and he whimpers and growls like a puppy, not a big dog, but a cute, little puppy in heat. What a turn on
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Really drives home the importance of having your pets spayed or neutered.
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I can never unread what Kathleen said Dian told her about Barker
Sometimes, he likes to get on all fours and he whimpers and growls like a puppy, not a big dog, but a cute, little puppy in heat. What a turn on
I know that Barker likes animals, but that is just creepy on so many levels.
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As strange as it is to imagining Barker doing that, I'm even more puzzled on how that could turn Dian on.
To each their own, I guess
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I can never unread what Kathleen said Dian told her about Barker
Sometimes, he likes to get on all fours and he whimpers and growls like a puppy, not a big dog, but a cute, little puppy in heat. What a turn on
How do I delete another person's post?
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Rumor confirmed: The Barker TPIR channel launches Dec. 1, and reportedly will include Janice/Holly/Dian-era episodes.
https://www.vulture.com/2020/11/classic-the-price-is-right-episodes-streaming-pluto-tv.html?fbclid=IwAR08wEQGwZ366OPoExVe_fY5_fX0Ls8esUWSxxc2Blh1JdlUrtpLrwKBd-A
Also a BUZZR-related note from the article: Pluto will be moving BUZZR back to the Entertainment section of its program guide, which will also be home to the new TPIR channel.
And FTR, if anyone is still skeptical, this article was shared on BUZZR’s official Facebook page.
EDIT: According to this Facebook post (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=112691210657301&id=103877634871992&m_entstream_source=video_home&player_suborigin=entry_point&player_format=permalink&anchor_composer=false) (also shared by BUZZR), episodes shown will start from season 11 (1982), the first year that furs were no longer offered as prizes: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=112691210657301&id=103877634871992&m_entstream_source=video_home&player_suborigin=entry_point&player_format=permalink&anchor_composer=false
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Rumor confirmed: The Barker TPIR channel launches Dec. 1, and reportedly will include Janice/Holly/Dian-era episodes.
https://www.vulture.com/2020/11/classic-the-price-is-right-episodes-streaming-pluto-tv.html?fbclid=IwAR08wEQGwZ366OPoExVe_fY5_fX0Ls8esUWSxxc2Blh1JdlUrtpLrwKBd-A
Also a BUZZR-related note from the article: Pluto will be moving BUZZR back to the Entertainment section of its program guide, which will also be home to the new TPIR channel.
And FTR, if anyone is still skeptical, this article was shared on BUZZR’s official Facebook page.
EDIT: According to this Facebook post (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=112691210657301&id=103877634871992&m_entstream_source=video_home&player_suborigin=entry_point&player_format=permalink&anchor_composer=false) (also shared by BUZZR), episodes shown will start from season 11 (1982), the first year that furs were no longer offered as prizes: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=112691210657301&id=103877634871992&m_entstream_source=video_home&player_suborigin=entry_point&player_format=permalink&anchor_composer=false
But not before certain people Bob fell out with were no longer around. It'll be interesting to see if that is no longer a concern. (vague memories of "taboo" models' faces being blurred out on some Greatest Moments special from some years back)
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But not before certain people Bob fell out with were no longer around. It'll be interesting to see if that is no longer a concern. (vague memories of "taboo" models' faces being blurred out on some Greatest Moments special from some years back)
I can’t really see them running full episodes with edits that blatant. For the most part, Fremantle has been pretty good to run their shows with minimal, or at least reasonable, edits. Not to mention that egregious edits like that would go over with the fans like a lead balloon.
Another matter is that the TV rights agreements don’t necessarily carry over to streaming rights. As it’s been explained to me, that’s why a lot of retro networks that lease their content, like MeTV & Antenna TV, don’t stream—the rights agreements between the networks & program distributors for TV don’t necessarily apply to streaming. Whereas that’s not the situation for networks like BUZZR & COZI, where the parent companies own most of the content they run, & the shows that do have a leased component probably came recently enough that streaming rights were explicitly stated in the contract.
Perhaps this is the situation if Barker has any say on the TV rights (which IIRC we don’t know for certain). I could see Fremantle & CBS agreeing not to run fur-era episodes for philanthropic reasons, but the other Janice/Dian/Holly eps being fair game for streaming. And regardless of whether Barker has any say on the TV rights, if he or his people try to make an issue of streaming them, Fremantle & CBS could rightly tell him to pound sand.
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It will be interesting to see just how many episodes they will run at a time before they start re-running them once or twice (like Buzzr does).
Some of their other retro channels that feature one or more shows with multiple seasons (CSI NY/Miami/Cyber, Happy Days/L&S/M&M) also show only so many from one or two seasons before playing them again.
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I can never unread what Kathleen said Dian told her about Barker
Sometimes, he likes to get on all fours and he whimpers and growls like a puppy, not a big dog, but a cute, little puppy in heat. What a turn on
Be sure to have your host spayed or neutered.
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It will be interesting to see just how many episodes they will run at a time before they start re-running them once or twice (like Buzzr does).
Some of their other retro channels that feature one or more shows with multiple seasons (CSI NY/Miami/Cyber, Happy Days/L&S/M&M) also show only so many from one or two seasons before playing them again.
Okay that answered my question elsewhere about how much of the runs they use.
Now are they DVD prints, meaning the signature butchering of music on CBS's part, among other things?
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OK, this was finally enough to get me to install the Pluto app on my Fire TV stick. But I have to ask: Do many of the commercials have extra-loud audio? It's annoying enough that I have to turn up the volume to hear the show, but then I get pummeled every time there's a break. And it's not just on the TPIR channel; the main Buzzr channel does the same thing to me. (Some of the ads appear to be inserted based on one's location, so maybe it's not universal.)
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OK, this was finally enough to get me to install the Pluto app on my Fire TV stick. But I have to ask: Do many of the commercials have extra-loud audio? It's annoying enough that I have to turn up the volume to hear the show, but then I get pummeled every time there's a break. And it's not just on the TPIR channel; the main Buzzr channel does the same thing to me. (Some of the ads appear to be inserted based on one's location, so maybe it's not universal.)
It’s not just you.
I submitted a comment on Pluto’s website and I got some BS response about a ticket being closed and issue resolved.
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OK, this was finally enough to get me to install the Pluto app on my Fire TV stick. But I have to ask: Do many of the commercials have extra-loud audio? It's annoying enough that I have to turn up the volume to hear the show, but then I get pummeled every time there's a break. And it's not just on the TPIR channel; the main Buzzr channel does the same thing to me. (Some of the ads appear to be inserted based on one's location, so maybe it's not universal.)
Definitely a Pluto thing. I reach for the remote on a regular basis, including just now, during a local law firm commercial that seemed to escalate in volume during the actual commercial. I guess the FCC rules about commercial volumes don't apply to streaming.
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Pluto is free, right? Just installed the app yesterday to check out the channel, and haven't done any research into it yet.
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Yep. It's free.
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OK, this was finally enough to get me to install the Pluto app on my Fire TV stick. But I have to ask: Do many of the commercials have extra-loud audio? It's annoying enough that I have to turn up the volume to hear the show, but then I get pummeled every time there's a break. And it's not just on the TPIR channel; the main Buzzr channel does the same thing to me. (Some of the ads appear to be inserted based on one's location, so maybe it's not universal.)
Definitely a Pluto thing. I reach for the remote on a regular basis, including just now, during a local law firm commercial that seemed to escalate in volume during the actual commercial. I guess the FCC rules about commercial volumes don't apply to streaming.
I have a TCL TV that has a setting that balances out the loud spots and/or music cues with the audio of the actual programming, so I don't notice it on that TV. On my other TV, though...
^^Kevin: Yes, Pluto is a free TV app.
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OK, this was finally enough to get me to install the Pluto app on my Fire TV stick. But I have to ask: Do many of the commercials have extra-loud audio? It's annoying enough that I have to turn up the volume to hear the show, but then I get pummeled every time there's a break. And it's not just on the TPIR channel; the main Buzzr channel does the same thing to me. (Some of the ads appear to be inserted based on one's location, so maybe it's not universal.)
Not only that but it seems like there's often two if not three commercials that are fighting over the same timespace. Part of one, goes to some of another, nope, back to the first one, no wait, we'll skip to a third commercial. Is their automation that crude?
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Having watched other Pluto channels, yes. At least the ad breaks are going where they're supposed to so far, though sometimes they stall and cut off the first minute or two of the next segment.
Frequently on the American Gladiators channel, the ad breaks cut in mid-event. That's the downside, and it is annoying. The upside is I have 24/7 channels for American Gladiators, The Price Is Right, and MST3K, and they cost me a combined $0.00.
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Now are they DVD prints, meaning the signature butchering of music on CBS's part, among other things?
Not sure whether this tells you what you want to know, but they seem to be keeping at least some of the licensed music. In particular, I’ve heard the “Pink Panther Theme” for Safe Crackers, and the Star Trek: The Motion Picture theme in a sci-fi themed Showcase.
Having watched other Pluto channels, yes. At least the ad breaks are going where they're supposed to so far, though sometimes they stall and cut off the first minute or two of the next segment.
Frequently on the American Gladiators channel, the ad breaks cut in mid-event. That's the downside, and it is annoying. The upside is I have 24/7 channels for American Gladiators, The Price Is Right, and MST3K, and they cost me a combined $0.00.
From what I can tell, it looks like Fremantle is doing the work here. A lot of the production and imaging elements look more like BUZZR than a Pluto-curated channel:
— The Plinko chip screen bug (Pluto-curated channels usually don’t get a bug)
— Their own channel promos running at a set time of the hour (which is pretty standard in broadcasting, but Pluto-curated channels just seem to fire off their own promos at random)
— The promos have more the feel of BUZZR promos than Pluto-produced promos
— No Pluto TV ID at the top of the hour (or any TOH ID—unless you count the Fremantle signature—which is how BUZZR does it)
— Ad breaks running at the right places in the show, as you mentioned
— When the show comes back from a break, it picks up where it’s supposed to, not cutting back a few seconds like most Pluto-curated channels do
What that means in regards to the pace of new episodes, or TPIR coming to other streaming services, we don’t yet know. I’d guess they’re going to roll out new episodes at about the same pace that they do for BUZZR, for better or worse.
Yes, some of the ads are doing the same quirky things they do on other Pluto channels, but that seems to be an issue with Pluto’s ad engine, not with the channel itself. And I have noticed the issue after some ad breaks where it goes to a blank screen for a minute or 2 instead of coming back to the show. I’ve occasionally seen this sort of glitch with other new Pluto channels, but they’re usually pretty good to fix it. As a workaround, though, if it stalls on a blank screen coming out of a break, switch to another channel then switch back, & the show should be back on.
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Based on today's lineup so far, we may be getting six new episodes a day, beginning at 6:00 a.m. EST.
It appears that they aired six random episodes yesterday morning from 12-5 (some of which have already aired again), then began the first rotation.
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Now are they DVD prints, meaning the signature butchering of music on CBS's part, among other things?
Not sure whether this tells you what you want to know, but they seem to be keeping at least some of the licensed music. In particular, I’ve heard the “Pink Panther Theme” for Safe Crackers, and the Star Trek: The Motion Picture theme in a sci-fi themed Showcase.
It was more in regards to Happy Days and the other sitcoms, which were infamous for being torn to shreds on DVD.
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I have 24/7 channels for American Gladiators, The Price Is Right, and MST3K, and they cost me a combined $0.00.
Yeah. Ain't it a grand thing?
Everything else that's been said about Pluto's minor flaws is just as true, too. It baffles me that I can have the volume on 1/100 while I'm sleeping at night and the commercial volume can still sound like it's at least at 20, which makes the 10-12 I normally have it on sound like 50. And I don't get why Gladiators gets its commercial cuts in mid segment either (not to mention that some episodes have gone missing). Between all these channels and a few extras, though, it's good to know that I'm never bored as I sit and teach from home 24/7.
I do have to say, though, I kinda wish they'd waited at least a few more weeks before they launched this channel. Less than 10 episodes in the initial cycle is a bit rough when you're trying to binge. And I'd rather not keep the channel on all day to wait and see if they next one is new only to find that I'm seeing the same ep I saw 4 hours ago (like right now, for instance). I think they should've launched NYD after they had a chance to get more episodes ready. Even if they only had enough ready to last 2 1/2 days, that's still 60 episodes, a lot easier on the abuse than 8 is.
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Everything else that's been said about Pluto's minor flaws is just as true, too. It baffles me that I can have the volume on 1/100 while I'm sleeping at night and the commercial volume can still sound like it's at least at 20, which makes the 10-12 I normally have it on sound like 50.
This was a problem on broadcast in the 2000s; after the CALM Act was passed it went away because commercials were required to be compliant and broadcasters were required to make sure they were. (The Act legislated that programs and commercial content be at approximately the same average volume). Currently the FCC has noted that the CALM Act does NOT apply to streaming providers, although I fully expect that loophole to be examined during the next four years.
Less than 10 episodes in the initial cycle is a bit rough when you're trying to binge.
It's a six hour cycle, repeating four times. 6a, Noon, 6p, Midnight, with the next rotation beginning at 6am ET. And the episodes change each day. (Yesterday was 4581D through 4591D, 4x, today is 4592D through 4602D...)
Six hours is a perfectly solid binge and a great opportunity to not miss anything while still leaving 3/4 of the day to watch other content (say, Buzzr. Or one of Pluto's other offerings). Respectfully, just because there ARE viewers who want to watch more than six episodes of Price is a row doesn't necessarily mean it's the ideal way to program this thing.
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Less than 10 episodes in the initial cycle is a bit rough when you're trying to binge.
It's a six hour cycle, repeating four times. 6a, Noon, 6p, Midnight, with the next rotation beginning at 6am ET. And the episodes change each day. (Yesterday was 4581D through 4591D, 4x, today is 4592D through 4602D...)
Six hours is a perfectly solid binge and a great opportunity to not miss anything while still leaving 3/4 of the day to watch other content (say, Buzzr. Or one of Pluto's other offerings). Respectfully, just because there ARE viewers who want to watch more than six episodes of Price is a row doesn't necessarily mean it's the ideal way to program this thing.
Exactly. According to their social media, we're going to get 6 new episodes each weekday (repeated four times) with reruns on weekends for the foreseeable future (no idea how many are converted at this point) so that's hardly anything to complain about at this point.
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(no idea how many are converted at this point)
Purely speculative, but based on promos and press releases (and who appears to be running the channel), would have to image we'll at least see through Plinko's debut. If no eps are skipped, it'd be the 79th episode from where they started, and I can't fathom their launching this with under a hundred episodes ready to go, especially with this project having been in the works since summer (And at least being kicked around for a year or so). Past that, 150 is divisible by 30, gets most of the way through the season, and gives them a larger buffer to still be digitizing. Past 200 to start and you start to get outside of Buzzr/Fremantle's typical MO but I mean anything's possible.
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(no idea how many are converted at this point)
Purely speculative, but based on promos and press releases (and who appears to be running the channel), would have to image we'll at least see through Plinko's debut. If no eps are skipped, it'd be the 79th episode from where they started, and I can't fathom their launching this with under a hundred episodes ready to go, especially with this project having been in the works since summer (And at least being kicked around for a year or so). Past that, 150 is divisible by 30, gets most of the way through the season, and gives them a larger buffer to still be digitizing. Past 200 to start and you start to get outside of Buzzr/Fremantle's typical MO but I mean anything's possible.
I can't do math, but I'm guessing this wouldn't time out to Plinko's debut airing on Plinko's anniversary? I'm sure they could just adjust the schedule the day of to air it. They've mentioned having some sort of Christmas event, I could see there being a Plinko event.
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Six hours is a perfectly solid binge and a great opportunity to not miss anything while still leaving 3/4 of the day to watch other content (say, Buzzr. Or one of Pluto's other offerings). Respectfully, just because there ARE viewers who want to watch more than six episodes of Price is a row doesn't necessarily mean it's the ideal way to program this thing.
I believe this is the point where we quote Alex Trebek (https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-11/12/21/tmp/184616d5f766/tmp-name-2-3027-1605217101-12_dblbig.jpg?resize=1200:*) and say "you don't watch it 24 hours a day".
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It's a six hour cycle, repeating four times. 6a, Noon, 6p, Midnight, with the next rotation beginning at 6am ET. And the episodes change each day. (Yesterday was 4581D through 4591D, 4x, today is 4592D through 4602D...)
That works perfectly for me as I do most of my game show watching at work and my five-hour shift starts at 6PM ET...sounds like repeats will be the least of my worries...
JakeT
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This episode is from 10/1/82; Bob again promotes his "Fun and Games" tour headed to OKC and Tulsa that weekend. Assuming no one's seen it, spoilers.
Anyway, I forget what it is, but the item up for bid comes up and immediately a hillbilly-looking guy in the audience yells out "$1,024!" Bob is taken aback by such a specific bid, but the contestant misunderstands and says $1,025. Bob is then gobsmacked that the hillbilly was on the nose.
I don't remember exactly when Ted Slausson started hanging out at Television City, but even in 1982, Price had a repetitive prize problem. :P
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Anyway, I forget what it is, but the item up for bid comes up and immediately a hillbilly-looking guy in the audience yells out "$1,024!" Bob is taken aback by such a specific bid, but the contestant misunderstands and says $1,025. Bob is then gobsmacked that the hillbilly was on the nose.
Continuing with the hillbilly theme, making Barker look rather foolish at that moment was certainly a hoot and a half!
JakeT
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Saw an interesting and rare plug on one of the retro shows: That of Global Van Ways being a prize delivery provider. :)
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Yesterday's block had one female contestant from Utah who seemed to fit the profile of the subservient housewife to a T. It was pretty cringeworthy watching Bob's misogyny come alive, even calling out one heckler in a sexist manner.
I don't know how much of it was 1982 sensibilities, and how much was Based Barker, but pretty uncomfortable either way.
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Yesterday's block had one female contestant from Utah who seemed to fit the profile of the subservient housewife to a T. It was pretty cringeworthy watching Bob's misogyny come alive, even calling out one heckler in a sexist manner.
I don't know how much of it was 1982 sensibilities, and how much was Based Barker, but pretty uncomfortable either way.
Indeed. One thing that has definitely shown through to me with these episodes is how condescending and chauvinistic Barker was toward women.
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Yesterday's block had one female contestant from Utah who seemed to fit the profile of the subservient housewife to a T. It was pretty cringeworthy watching Bob's misogyny come alive, even calling out one heckler in a sexist manner.
You must be talking about the Lucky Seven newlywed...I thought she was very sweet but, as was frequently the case, Barker was creepy as hell...
One aside that may result from these episodes being seen is that we'll finally be reminded that Barker wasn't as much of a god as many have claimed he was over these many years...
JakeT
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So I’m watching the other day and my wife makes a few comments..
“Why are they playing the Family Feud theme for a car?”
“Look at how young Barker is...”
[Cut to shot if Johnny O] “Isn’t that the jerk?”
NOTE: I ask what she’s talking about and she says “Isn’t that the announcer who was going overseas for those sex escapades?” I kindly reply “No”
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I don't know how much of it was 1982 sensibilities, and how much was Based Barker, but pretty uncomfortable either way.
Bob was apparently quite the horndog after Dorothy Jo passed away. It doesn't help that there seemed to be a lot more women contestants in those days.
That being said, I'm still glad they're showing the episodes, warts and all (other than editing out the ticket plug).
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The condescension may be more prevalent around female contestants, but it's certainly not exclusive to them. My wife and I were watching an episode the other night, and there was a contestant from Cape Girardeau, Missouri. Bob spent several beats of an exchange trying to correct the contestant on where in the state it was located. And my wife just said, "Bob, what in the hell are you doing this for? He lives there!"
There was also a game in another episode where one of the small prizes was like a Crayola lap desk. And on it was a piece of paper that one of the models had written "Bob Barker <3 W.G.M.C.," which he of course to great pains to note and explain. Knowing what we know now, man, take me to the Silkwood shower.
Unrelated to that, having watched a couple plays of Trader Bob, it's bizarre how botched the order of the price reveals is in that game. Anyone who's paying attention is being told if the game's won or lost before the final reveal.
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There was also a game in another episode where one of the small prizes was like a Crayola lap desk. And on it was a piece of paper that one of the models had written "Bob Barker <3 W.G.M.C.," which he of course to great pains to note and explain. Knowing what we know now, man, take me to the Silkwood shower.
This must've been a running joke. On an episode I watched an hour or so ago, Five Price Tags featured the same desk. On that episode, the message read "Bob Barker is a Dog's Best Friend."
Bob also mansplained the hell out of Hit Me to a contestant. I understand the game confused many contestants, including that particular woman, but his explanation still came across as patronizing. Something along the lines of "So...if the price is a multiple of one, it'll be an Ace. Got it? Gooooood!"
Was the guy from Missouri the dental student who had just graduated? That exchange was pretty awkward.
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[Cut to shot if Johnny O] “Isn’t that the jerk?”
NOTE: I ask what she’s talking about and she says “Isn’t that the announcer who was going overseas for those sex escapades?” I kindly reply “No”
Ahhhhhhh...so the truth about Rod Roddy has become better known, eh?
Yikes...
JakeT
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There was also a game in another episode where one of the small prizes was like a Crayola lap desk. And on it was a piece of paper that one of the models had written "Bob Barker <3 W.G.M.C.," which he of course to great pains to note and explain. Knowing what we know now, man, take me to the Silkwood shower.
There are simply some ooky things ya can't scrub away...I feel ya...
JakeT
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I find it quite noticeable how touchy feely Dian was with Barker at the end of several shows that I saw
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Ahhhhhhh...so the truth about Rod Roddy has become better known, eh?
Yikes...
JakeT
Well, to be fair I told her the story years ago.
I guess she never knew what he looked like.
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Ahhhhhhh...so the truth about Rod Roddy has become better known, eh?
Yikes...
Well, to be fair I told her the story years ago.
I guess she never knew what he looked like.
I'm surprised more people aren't aware/haven't figured out just what his "goodwill ambassadorship to Thailand" really meant...
It's dark...sooooooo dark...
JakeT
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A Mexican lady with the surname Rodriguez appears. Paraphrasing here.
BOB: You’re not a Rodriguez...you married someone with that name.
(she’s single; awkward exchange about what ethnicity she is ensues)
BOB: You’re no more Mexican than I am Indian.
(more banter from Bob)
I’m not one to cringe at 40-year-old TV shows but that one threw me for a loop.
ETA: Same episode, female contestant walks on stage.
BOB: You’re a housewife?
CONTESTANT: No I’m a junior accountant.
Jesus, Bob*. Hopefully I won’t have to report anymore chauvinism. At least not from this episode.
*I know. I know. Some people consider them one and the same.
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Ahhhhhhh...so the truth about Rod Roddy has become better known, eh?
Yikes...
Well, to be fair I told her the story years ago.
I guess she never knew what he looked like.
I'm surprised more people aren't aware/haven't figured out just what his "goodwill ambassadorship to Thailand" really meant...
It's dark...sooooooo dark...
JakeT
...O_O.
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So the, uh, participants in Roddy's little adventures were at least consenting adults...right?
Between this and Bob being a royal jerk, I really don't need any more of my childhood ruined...
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I just figured Rod was going to Thailand to get those fancy suits he wore on TPIR. I never thought anything else about it.
So by 1982, Bob had apparently not gotten the memo that it's not the 1950s anymore.
Other than that, I'm enjoying seeing these shows again, particularly for the games that have been retired, plus Pick a Pair with the ferris wheel. We'll eventually see the debut of Plinko. I wonder if we'll see the Phone Home Game. I couldn't find any info as to what year they started playing that.
Retired games I've seen so far include Barker's Bargain Bar, Give or Keep, It's Optional, Penny Ante, Poker Game, Super Ball and Trader Bob.
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So do we have any proof of Rod doing anything depraved in Thailand, or just hearsay?
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So do we have any proof of Rod doing anything depraved in Thailand, or just hearsay?
I was thinking the same thing. I remember several people mentioning it on alt.tv.game-shows and later Golden Road, but I wonder where those rumors actually came from.
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A Mexican lady with the surname Rodriguez appears. Paraphrasing here.
BOB: You’re not a Rodriguez...you married someone with that name.
(she’s single; awkward exchange about what ethnicity she is ensues)
BOB: You’re no more Mexican than I am Indian.
(more banter from Bob)
I’m not one to cringe at 40-year-old TV shows but that one threw me for a loop.
ETA: Same episode, female contestant walks on stage.
BOB: You’re a housewife?
CONTESTANT: No I’m a junior accountant.
Jesus, Bob*. Hopefully I won’t have to report anymore chauvinism. At least not from this episode.
*I know. I know. Some people consider them one and the same.
Geez.
I've probably said it here before, but I was never that big a fan of Barker TPIR for the reasons listed above--I found him terribly condescending to the contestants. (I will allow that some of them, when on stage, weren't necessarily thinking rationally.)
Combine that with not seeing the daytime version much over the first few years of the run, since I was in school, and my preferred host was Dennis James. I will admit Dennis had his share of condescending moments as well, but it felt a little less chauvinistic.
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We'll eventually see the debut of Plinko. I wonder if we'll see the Phone Home Game. I couldn't find any info as to what year they started playing that.
I once read that the Phone Home Game came out in Fall of 83. So if that is true, and they are going through a month and half worth of episodes a week , we should start seeing the game played by February.
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In re: the condescension: -- I wonder how much of it was Barker's personality, and how much of it came from hosting "Truth or Consequences." The latter show often/usually had setups where the host and audience were "in" on whatever curveball they were throwing the participants, who were sometimes made to look a bit foolish. (These are just generalizations--I wasn't around for the 19 years he hosted it, and I've only seen what's posted online.) It's possible that he just got used to dealing with contestants in a certain way, even though TPIR didn't really call for it.
FWIW, I do recall a 1980 episode shown on GSN where he mentioned to a female contestant that he had a dog who shared her first name, and later in the show he acknowledged that he had probably offended her.
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So do we have any proof of Rod doing anything depraved in Thailand, or just hearsay?
I was thinking the same thing. I remember several people mentioning it on alt.tv.game-shows and later Golden Road, but I wonder where those rumors actually came from.
While I wasn’t there, I did have discussions about this with people close to the show many years ago and have no doubt that it’s true.
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I wonder if anyone has kept track of the individual dates of when the episodes that have aired so far originally aired (You know, for episode guide purposes)?
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I wonder if anyone has kept track of the individual dates of when the episodes that have aired so far originally aired (You know, for episode guide purposes)?
Rest assured, the folks at Golden Road are on top of it.
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So the, uh, participants in Roddy's little adventures were at least consenting adults...right?
Uhhhhhhhh...ummmmmmm...uhhhhhhhh...ummmmmmmm...
Never ask questions that you don't want honest answers to...
JakeT
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So the, uh, participants in Roddy's little adventures were at least consenting adults...right?
Uhhhhhhhh... [...]
Never ask questions that you don't want honest answers to...
Just answer the question.
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Just answer the question.
Yeah, this whole “oh, I’m going to be coy” and throw around knowing something other people don’t know is just annoying. Either, don’t talk about it or do. But dancing around it just makes it even more of a big deal.
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A question for those better versed in the fur era than I am... Are there really that many specific episodes where furs were offered? That era was mostly before my time, & I didn’t have GSN at home until the mid ‘00s so I missed its run there. But there don’t seem to be more than a handful of pre-‘82 episodes on YouTube specifically with fur prizes. I get why they’re withholding fur eps, but I’m wondering if they could reasonably run the other eps from those seasons—where Bob perhaps seemed a bit less condescending & chauvinistic—without missing more than a handful of shows. (And did GSN even run any fur episodes? I know they ran eps from those seasons, but Bob was already known as a pretty staunch animal rights supporter by then.)
About Bob’s condescension & chauvinism, a little armchair psychology... It’s not uncommon, when a long-married spouse dies, for it to mess with the surviving partner’s head. My belief is that this is what happened to Bob when Dorothy Jo died. He probably dove into his work to deal with his grief, which led to his promotion, but the failure to deal with his grief properly probably caused him to act out in some of the ways he did, both in front of the camera & behind the scenes. That in no way excuses his behavior, though. (I’m in no way a psychiatric or counseling professional, so take my opinion for what it’s worth.)
Also, I don’t think I’d heard the story about Roddy. (Wow, this thread has taken some bizarre twists & turns. What was the deal with this show?) As far as we know, though, Johnny O. was an upstanding guy, wasn’t he?
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A question for those better versed in the fur era than I am... Are there really that many specific episodes where furs were offered? That era was mostly before my time, & I didn’t have GSN at home until the mid ‘00s so I missed its run there. But there don’t seem to be more than a handful of pre-‘82 episodes on YouTube specifically with fur prizes. I get why they’re withholding fur eps, but I’m wondering if they could reasonably run the rather eps from those seasons—where Bob perhaps seemed a bit less condescending & chauvinistic—without missing more than a handful of shows. (And did GSN even run any fur episodes? I know they ran eps from those seasons, but Bob was already known as a pretty staunch animal rights supporter by then.)
There were a lot of furs offered in the pre-1982 era... perhaps featuring in as many as half of the episodes produced. It would require quite a bit of pre-screening to eliminate those (unless somehow there was already a list of non-fur shows somewhere). It's been said that that is the main reason GSN wasn't able to include TPIR on their schedule at launch, instead waiting about two years to start showing it.
GSN only ran a couple of shows with furs, and it seemed those were by accident.
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So the, uh, participants in Roddy's little adventures were at least consenting adults...right?
Uhhhhhhhh... [...]
Never ask questions that you don't want honest answers to...
Just answer the question.
In short, it was said that Rod was going to Thailand regularly to have sex with transgenders and underage boys.
Felt the need to put it in spolier space for those who'd rather not know.
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Anyone here figured out how the weekend schedule goes? From what I’m observing (tuning in and out), I don’t think they’re playing the same episodes every six hours.
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Anyone here figured out how the weekend schedule goes? From what I’m observing (tuning in and out), I don’t think they’re playing the same episodes every six hours.
At least for this weekend, they're repeating 12 shows each day (running each one twice), which means all 24 they showed this previous week have been repeated. Not sure how next weekend will go when they have 30 shows to choose from.
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Unrelated to that, having watched a couple plays of Trader Bob, it's bizarre how botched the order of the price reveals is in that game. Anyone who's paying attention is being told if the game's won or lost before the final reveal.
Yeah, that's why Trader Bob was the worst of the Give or Keep doppelgangers. Completely sucking any suspense out of the reveal by the time the end came around. Like, if the 4th eliminated prize was less than the 3rd kept prize, it was clear as day as to what was going to happen. And yet, this game lasted longer than Finish Line (probably because it didn't require mechanics like Finish Line).
Bob is condescending, but people liked this. The show skyrocketed to #1 at this point and they partied and had fun. This was the time the show started cementing its status as an institution. People waited to see Bob be smarmy on TV, they waited in line to be talked to him that way in studio. Perhaps his fame and the prospect of winning blinded people from it, but no one cared. They liked reaching into his pocket. They asked him for kisses. Whatever it is they liked about him, they were *sold.* I think it was his quick wit and cavalier attitude that came off as so charming back then.
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We'll eventually see the debut of Plinko. I wonder if we'll see the Phone Home Game. I couldn't find any info as to what year they started playing that.
Season 13 premiere, so sayeth the Golden-Road FAQ.
My wife and I were watching an episode the other night, and there was a contestant from Cape Girardeau, Missouri. Bob spent several beats of an exchange trying to correct the contestant on where in the state it was located. And my wife just said, "Bob, what in the hell are you doing this for? He lives there!"
Bob lived there for several years himself, though not in the same part of the state, but yeah, not a good start.
(she’s single; awkward exchange about what ethnicity she is ensues)
BOB: You’re no more Mexican than I am Indian.
So she's one-eighth Mexican.
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Not trying to hijack the thread but with the addition of TPiR to PlutoTV I've been watching the free service much more than I've had in the past. Has anyone else using a Roku had major issues with the PlutoTV app? I've found many others online (be it on Reddit, Pluto's Facebook post comments and tech support groups online for Roku/Pluto) seem to be having the same issue. The issue is that I have to reinstall the PlutoTV app each time I want to use it. Otherwise it will not completely load - it'll simply play the last channel I watched but will not react to any remote inputs. You can tell it is receiving the command from the remote as it is playing the Roku sound it makes when you hit an incorrect button or a button that doesn't do anything. It will not let you change channel or anything. I'm a tech person and I've tried all the typical fixes but to no avail. A reinstall works for one go-round but then freezes after you go back into the app. E-mails to Pluto and Roku haven't provided any fix. Anyone else having this issue?
Also is it me or is the audience like WAY more excited about the Big Wheel than they are nowadays? The general feel of excitement seems so much higher and it doesn't just seem like the work of Mother Mackenzie. Bob's edginess never goes too far which shows how good of a host he is ... always in control but always making sure the contestants are the stars.
Bob goes to prove my belief that the television personalities that are held in the highest regard are the ones that take their role seriously on air. I understand that Drew and his crew want a party atmosphere but Bob's run felt much more fun than the "forced fun" we have now. I swear watching the current setup forcing contestants do a gig when they come out and when they win the item up for bid is vomit-inducing. Bob made the fact that if a person knew how many packs of gum it would take to get a total of $6 in a game then that contestant would win a new car 100% legit.
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Looks like the new cycle of episodes started at noon Eastern today instead of 6AM. The 6AM-noon block was a repeat of Friday's shows.
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Not trying to hijack the thread but with the addition of TPiR to PlutoTV I've been watching the free service much more than I've had in the past. Has anyone else using a Roku had major issues with the PlutoTV app? I've found many others online (be it on Reddit, Pluto's Facebook post comments and tech support groups online for Roku/Pluto) seem to be having the same issue. The issue is that I have to reinstall the PlutoTV app each time I want to use it. Otherwise it will not completely load - it'll simply play the last channel I watched but will not react to any remote inputs. You can tell it is receiving the command from the remote as it is playing the Roku sound it makes when you hit an incorrect button or a button that doesn't do anything. It will not let you change channel or anything. I'm a tech person and I've tried all the typical fixes but to no avail. A reinstall works for one go-round but then freezes after you go back into the app. E-mails to Pluto and Roku haven't provided any fix. Anyone else having this issue?
That seems to be an issue with older Roku models. I’ve had a couple of Rokus where Pluto became almost unusable, even after doing the standard troubleshooting. Unfortunately I don’t have a good fix for it. I just bought a Chromecast (I was already using one on another TV), and mostly use it for streaming on TV now.
Bob goes to prove my belief that the television personalities that are held in the highest regard are the ones that take their role seriously on air. I understand that Drew and his crew want a party atmosphere but Bob's run felt much more fun than the "forced fun" we have now. I swear watching the current setup forcing contestants do a gig when they come out and when they win the item up for bid is vomit-inducing. Bob made the fact that if a person knew how many packs of gum it would take to get a total of $6 in a game then that contestant would win a new car 100% legit.
Agreed. The show wasn’t without its warts, which we’ve harped on (myself included) in this thread. But the overall tone of the show seemed more classy then, as opposed to the “frat party” tone now.
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Bob is condescending, but people liked this. The show skyrocketed to #1 at this point and they partied and had fun. This was the time the show started cementing its status as an institution. People waited to see Bob be smarmy on TV, they waited in line to be talked to him that way in studio. Perhaps his fame and the prospect of winning blinded people from it, but no one cared. They liked reaching into his pocket. They asked him for kisses. Whatever it is they liked about him, they were *sold.* I think it was his quick wit and cavalier attitude that came off as so charming back then.
That’s a fair point. I’d add that a lot of the hosts often in the discussion of GOATs—Rayburn, Dawson, Sajak, Eubanks—made their names in part by poking fun at goofy answers or remarks from contestants, & it was considered part of their charm. So Barker wasn’t completely unique in that respect. This doesn’t apply to all the GOATs, of course; I don’t recall Trebek & Cullen, for instance, poking fun at contestants too often, though their show formats & hosting styles didn’t usually lend themselves to that kind of banter. But gently poking fun at contestants was enough a part of game show history that it remains a fixture of many game shows today.
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Not trying to hijack the thread but with the addition of TPiR to PlutoTV I've been watching the free service much more than I've had in the past. Has anyone else using a Roku had major issues with the PlutoTV app? I've found many others online (be it on Reddit, Pluto's Facebook post comments and tech support groups online for Roku/Pluto) seem to be having the same issue...
I have been watching Pluto on my Amazon Fire stick on one TV and our Apple TV box on another TV with no issues. If you are looking to change your device, I know Amazon was running some pretty good sales on Fire sticks recently...I think one model was something like $20.
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And if you're not opposed to the Google universe, I recommend the new Chromecast TV over the Amazon Fire Stick. The UI is much easier to work with in my opinion.
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HEADS UP
On the show broadcast today (12/8) at 12 Noon ET, Bill Cullen came in on the choo-choo. So if they're on the 6-hour cycle, that show will repeat at 6 pm and 12 midnight ET.
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I don't understand all of the talk about getting to episodes from several seasons later within a matter of months. Given Pluto and Buzzr's history, plus the supposed time in digitizing eps, I wouldn't be surprised to see repeats of this stack within a couple of weeks and lasting for some time. I hope I'm dead wrong.
Out of curiosity, when did shows switch to current formats, I assume some sort of digital file?
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(https://i.imgur.com/3vQ2grQ.jpg)
From the November 5, 1982 ep. Look at that jacket. I take it Bob must've won the Masters. XD
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Must be a lot of golfers in the game show world, then, since I'm sure I've seen Gene Rayburn in that same jacket on Match Game.
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$1400 for a VCR?!? :o I know they weren't as cheap as what we became familiar with but that seemed super steep even for 1982.
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HEADS UP
On the show broadcast today (12/8) at 12 Noon ET, Bill Cullen came in on the choo-choo. So if they're on the 6-hour cycle, that show will repeat at 6 pm and 12 midnight ET.
All the time in the segment they spent on promoting Child's Play, yet not even an on-air mention that Bill was the original host of the show that ultimately would give Bob his most famous gig.
Bill really looked like he was having fun.
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All the time in the segment they spent on promoting Child's Play, yet not even an on-air mention that Bill was the original host of the show that ultimately would give Bob his most famous gig.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bob had a little something to do with that.
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Fremantle does ContentID matching on nearly all of the fan uploads of their content onto Youtube. They get ad revenue, the videos stay up, everyone wins.
They've, within the past couple of weeks, switched the overwhelming majority of episodes from September 1982 to the end of April 1983 from Monetized to Blocked (at least in the US), and for their to suddenly cut off revenue from such a specific block of content, at least IMO, gives me a reasonable first guess as to the episodes currently in Pluto's rotation (outside of stunts and specials).
Also fits Fremantle's MO of starting with a smaller block of transferred content then adding to (and subtracting from) the rotation over time.
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One of today’s episodes had Holly wear her neice’s shirt that basically said “I want to suck face with Bob Barker”
In hindsight....yikes!
A nice treat..They left in the Hone Viewer Showcase
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Have we jumped around a little into next season? I'm watching now, and I notice the main backdrop is now made of the plush material I remember from my youth instead of painted stucco, and it no longer has the border lighting.
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Have we jumped around a little into next season? I'm watching now, and I notice the main backdrop is now made of the plush material I remember from my youth instead of painted stucco, and it no longer has the border lighting.
No -- we've just gotten past the summer taping break.
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Have we jumped around a little into next season? I'm watching now, and I notice the main backdrop is now made of the plush material I remember from my youth instead of painted stucco, and it no longer has the border lighting.
The padded purple/red/orange turntable was phased in throughout Season 11: the front of the spinning panel on the October 26 episode, most of the remaining panels about a month later (whose week is what's playing today, but taped out of order), and the back of the spinning panel at the end of the season.
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I’m still seeing 1982 copyright dates on the new set eps. There’s been a few that had a mix of the old and new backdrops.
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I asked Steve about that--we're in the same TV season but just after the summer break.
/oops, Steve already jumped in.
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This week we're seeing was taped out of order as well. We'll see the stucco return for a few weeks before the padding returns just before the end of 1982.
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Random Thoughts/Questions after the 2nd week of the TPIR Channel:
Has the TPIR train (woot wooot) been used on every show so far? I didn't realize they used it so much then.
How many games were in the rotation at this point?
You can tell when they use the short credit roll vs. the long one before they start: The MG/BT logos have different fonts.
Now I can't get the "Nothing But Furniture" cue out of my head.
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How many games were in the rotation at this point?
43 assuming I haven't forgotten one. List follows:
1 Right Price, 3 Strikes, Any Number, Barker's Bargain Bar, Blank Check, Bonus Game, Bullseye, Card Game, Check-Out, Cliff Hangers, Clock Game, Danger Price, Dice Game, Double Prices, Five Price Tags, Give or Keep, Golden Road, Grand Game, Grocery Game, Hi Lo, Hit Me, Hole in One, Hurdles, It's Optional, Lucky Seven, Money Game, Most Expensive, Now...and Then, Penny Ante, Pick a Pair, Poker Game, Punch a Bunch, Race Game, Range Game, Safe Crackers , Secret "X", Shell Game, Squeeze Play, Super Ball!!, Switcheroo, Take Two, Temptation, and Trader Bob.
As far as the rest of the season goes, Plinko's the next new game on 1/3/83. Master Key debuts on 3/25/83. Hurdles retires after the 3/31/83 show, and It's Optional's last gasp was 5/9/83 (what a fun game, BTW).
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You can tell when they use the short credit roll vs. the long one before they start: The MG/BT logos have different fonts.
I noticed this last night too. And when they show the TPIR logo w/copyright at the end, it dissolves away during a short crawl. During a long credit crawl, they use a reverse square wipe.
I had this convo with Ben Williams last night. For years, I could never get the hang of Trader Bob, but it appears the proper strategy is keep the lesser of the two prizes, then hope that the four prizes you kept increase in value. Interesting concept, but if being confusing is why it didn't last, I definitely understand. It also shows just how many games were a sibling or first cousin of Give or Keep.
Even after ten years, you had contestants who couldn't get the hang of the simpler games. Granted, I don't expect everyone to watch every single day, and there's probably games that, if I were a contestant today, might confuse me also. Plus, lights and camera...
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You can tell when they use the short credit roll vs. the long one before they start: The MG/BT logos have different fonts.
I noticed this last night too. And when they show the TPIR logo w/copyright at the end, it dissolves away during a short crawl. During a long credit crawl, they use a reverse square wipe.
I had this convo with Ben Williams last night. For years, I could never get the hang of Trader Bob, but it appears the proper strategy is keep the lesser of the two prizes, then hope that the four prizes you kept increase in value. Interesting concept, but if being confusing is why it didn't last, I definitely understand. It also shows just how many games were a sibling or first cousin of Give or Keep.
Even after ten years, you had contestants who couldn't get the hang of the simpler games. Granted, I don't expect everyone to watch every single day, and there's probably games that, if I were a contestant today, might confuse me also. Plus, lights and camera...
Then again, I saw one of the smoothest, quickest playings of 10 chances I've ever seen earlier this week.
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I had this convo with Ben Williams last night. For years, I could never get the hang of Trader Bob, but it appears the proper strategy is keep the lesser of the two prizes, then hope that the four prizes you kept increase in value. Interesting concept, but if being confusing is why it didn't last, I definitely understand. It also shows just how many games were a sibling or first cousin of Give or Keep.
Two thoughts: 1, WOW, were they into big set pieces. 2., it always irked me that Give or Keep was about Keeping the more expensive prize. I always thought the game should have been called Generosity, where the object was to give away the more valuable item.
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Thanks to all for the detailed answer to my question. The internet is actually good sometimes!
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They just shared this on Facebook:
Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!
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They just shared this on Facebook:
Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!
I would presume this is because Pluto has no west coast feed? Otherwise, a strange decision to decide to burn right through these episodes on a Friday, no less.
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They just shared this on Facebook:
Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!
I saw that. Just to clarify, are they meaning a new episode every hour? If so, that’s likely going to blow pretty quickly through the stack of eps they have converted, & they’ll start getting the “why do they always repeat the same episodes?” complaints that often come up with the other dedicated Pluto channels. (Unless Fremantle has a heck of a lot more eps of TPIR ready to go than of most of their classic shows—which they might.)
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I saw that. Just to clarify, are they meaning a new episode every hour?
As of 10am Pacific they're on their 8th new episode today (started at 3a). All in order.
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I know we as a group are under the assumption that the folks at Buzzr are in charge of this amazing new channel...apologies if it was pointed out already, but I noticed that the FB posts for the Barker channel have the same "Based in the United Kingdom" note as the Buzzr posts. A bit more evidence to throw on the pile.
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All the time in the segment they spent on promoting Child's Play, yet not even an on-air mention that Bill was the original host of the show that ultimately would give Bob his most famous gig.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bob had a little something to do with that.
He does mention him and the original PIR on another episode, Card Game was being played.
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They just shared this on Facebook:
Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!
Well, this makes tracking the episodes a tad tougher...
Because I’m one who doesn’t like to lose sleep, a quick Google search shows that Plinko made it’s debut on 1/3/83. Knowing they’re playing these episodes chronologically, for those of you keeping score of the original airdates better than the online episode guides...what time should that first Plinko debut make its debut on Pluto?
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Just saw this on Facebook from the page admin:
"Hey there, we appreciate you wanting to catch them all! Lots of folks were feeling they weren't getting enough variety. We are airing 100 episodes in order and then those will repeat. We are not prepared to share a schedule, but understand the interest & will work on it. Thanks!"
Edit: fixed the source
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They just shared this on Facebook:
Friends, we wanted to let you know that in a continued effort to make your viewing of The Price Is Right: The Barker Era the best it can be, we've changed the schedule. We will no longer air 6 new episodes a day, now each hour a different episode will play on PlutoTV. Plus, great news, tomorrow you can catch the debut of #Plinko! Thanks for watching!
Well, this makes tracking the episodes a tad tougher...
Because I’m one who doesn’t like to lose sleep, a quick Google search shows that Plinko made it’s debut on 1/3/83. Knowing they’re playing these episodes chronologically, for those of you keeping score of the original airdates better than the online episode guides...what time should that first Plinko debut make its debut on Pluto?
For reference, in a couple of last night's episodes, Bob mentions that viewers only have a couple days left to send in their Home Viewer Showcase guesses. I would pinpoint that at some point in November 1982.
/Which means the ep. that aired the day I entered the world is close by :)
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Assuming no more shows get skipped and that they're going straight through the weekend, the Plinko debut should be 11:00 Eastern tomorrow morning. 100 shows in a row should get us through April 11, 1983.
EDIT: Actually, here's (http://tpirstats.com/Calendars/Season_11_games.html) the game calendar, in case anyone's interested. They're currently airing December 9, 1982 (#4704D).
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Assuming no more shows get skipped and that they're going straight through the weekend, the Plinko debut should be 11:00 Eastern tomorrow morning. 100 shows in a row should get us through April 11, 1983.
EDIT: Actually, here's (http://tpirstats.com/Calendars/Season_11_games.html) the game calendar, in case anyone's interested. They're currently airing December 9, 1982 (#4704D).
I don't think their tweet meant that. I took it to mean they have 100 total available, which means we should only get through about 2/1/83.
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Steve's math adds up. The episode airing now very clearly has the Golden Road set up on Bob's entrance, and according to that calendar, this is the 12/20/82 episode.
The preceding episode featured the Home Viewer Showcase winner.
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And now we're on Christmas week. I've been following along on the calendar, I just don't think we're going to get all the way to April just yet.
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Assuming no more shows get skipped and that they're going straight through the weekend, the Plinko debut should be 11:00 Eastern tomorrow morning.
Off by 1 hour. They just aired Plinko's premiere.
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Off by 1 hour. They just aired Plinko's premiere.
Yep, they apparently skipped December 29.
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Coming out of a break on the episode airing right now: "Here on the Price is Right, we're male chauvinist pigs." Little bit too on-brand, Bob.
(in response to "Support the ERA" on a small prize writing tablet.)
(He said it was all a joke, but....)
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Coming out of a break on the episode airing right now: "Here on the Price is Right, we're male chauvinist pigs." Little bit too on-brand, Bob.
(in response to "Support the ERA" on a small prize writing tablet.)
(He said it was all a joke, but....)
I was wondering what he wadded up so quickly!
JakeT
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During the 4am PST airing, one of the last contestants to come on down was none other than future PYL 1-day champion Beverlie Peters, known for piercing eardrums and painful facial expressions.
She won her pricing game (Grocery Game) and managed to make it to the Showcase after a spin-off at the big wheel. Her success was short-lived after tendering at $12k+ bid on her showcase consisting largely of a dining room.
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Assuming no more shows get skipped and that they're going straight through the weekend, the Plinko debut should be 11:00 Eastern tomorrow morning. 100 shows in a row should get us through April 11, 1983.
EDIT: Actually, here's (http://tpirstats.com/Calendars/Season_11_games.html) the game calendar, in case anyone's interested. They're currently airing December 9, 1982 (#4704D).
I don't think their tweet meant that. I took it to mean they have 100 total available, which means we should only get through about 2/1/83.
100 episodes total. They have gone back to September 1982 as of 10AM EST this morning.
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In the last few playings of Hurdles I'd seen from old GSN reruns, I'd noticed that they dropped the whole "contestant fires the starter pistol" gimmick in favor of Bob just firing it off himself quickly.
The Pluto run seems to point to when and why this change happened. In the playing on the 10/19/82 ep, the contestant is goofing off with it, waving it around aimlessly - and at one point even has it pointed directly at Bob!
(https://i.imgur.com/fQRuwEs.png)
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Going through more episodes....January 13, 1983. Johnny reads the prize copy for a Ford Escort. Just one teeny tiny problem.
The car onstage the entire game is the Mercury Lynx. And it's never mentioned on-air and the contestant loses the game by 1 on the last digit. Might as well be the same car, but it's not.
(https://i.imgur.com/mMcxbAx.png)
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1982 is clearly the year of the tight perm
Does anyone have the title of the music used in the Time Capsule showcases, when they open the capsules? It's quite catchy.
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1982 is clearly the year of the tight perm
Does anyone have the title of the music used in the Time Capsule showcases, when they open the capsules? It's quite catchy.
I believe you are referring to the John Williams take of the theme to Close Encounters Of The Third Kind:
https://youtu.be/aE5gPDdJEvU
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In the playing on the 10/19/82 ep, the contestant is goofing off with it, waving it around aimlessly - and at one point even has it pointed directly at Bob!
(https://i.imgur.com/fQRuwEs.png)
I've been sending that screenshot to some of my friends without any context. "OK, OK! You can have the car!"
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Going through more episodes....January 13, 1983. Johnny reads the prize copy for a Ford Escort. Just one teeny tiny problem.
The car onstage the entire game is the Mercury Lynx. And it's never mentioned on-air and the contestant loses the game by 1 on the last digit. Might as well be the same car, but it's not.
Maybe not the same thing but plenty of times the car on stage has a stick and yet it's "automatic transmission", and at least once it had "power windows" yet you could clearly see the crank windows on the car.
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Going through more episodes....January 13, 1983. Johnny reads the prize copy for a Ford Escort. Just one teeny tiny problem.
The car onstage the entire game is the Mercury Lynx. And it's never mentioned on-air and the contestant loses the game by 1 on the last digit. Might as well be the same car, but it's not.
Maybe not the same thing but plenty of times the car on stage has a stick and yet it's "automatic transmission", and at least once it had "power windows" yet you could clearly see the crank windows on the car.
Now I don't think that is as much of an issue. The price of the car is determined by what is in the copy as far as options or option packages. It would be logistically impossible to always display the car every time with all of the options given in the copy.
Now having the complete wrong car make/model on stage - that's something else entirely.
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NADA says an ‘83 Escort 2-door went for $6,384, while a Lynx was a thousand dollars more. I’d argue that contestant would’ve had a damn good case.
https://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/1983/Ford/Escort-GL/2-Door-Hatchback/Values
https://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/1983/Mercury/Lynx/RS-3-Door-Hatchback/Values
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Coming out of a break on the episode airing right now: "Here on the Price is Right, we're male chauvinist pigs." Little bit too on-brand, Bob.
(in response to "Support the ERA" on a small prize writing tablet.)
(He said it was all a joke, but....)
There was another episode where the contestant was personal trailer which caused Bob to remark that "There are some big old fat girls that work on the Price is Right, I bet you could help them, couldn't you?" Yeesh, different times I know, but I'm surprised at how often Bob is condescending and misogynistic on these old episodes.
I've been sending that screenshot to some of my friends without any context. "OK, OK! You can have the car!"
Yeah, what a fantastic screenshot, perfect for memes.
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Now I don't think that is as much of an issue. The price of the car is determined by what is in the copy as far as options or option packages. It would be logistically impossible to always display the car every time with all of the options given in the copy.
Especially given that It's Optional was in the rotation at this point.
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Happened upon a Barker faux pas over the weekend:
During a Showcase Showdown, there were two $1.00 winners heading into a spinoff. First player spins another $1.00 for the $10k bonus. Barker never "reset" the wheel back to the .05 for the second player. Technically a no harm/no foul as the person spun somewhere on the back side of the wheel.
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So, a certain blogger is making critiquing Bob's "inappropriate" comments and Rod rumors synonymous with us not enjoying the reruns.
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Which blogger?
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Which blogger?
Probably this jackbag (https://gameshowfollies.blogspot.com/2020/12/split-decision.html). (Emphasis definitely mine)
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Really not sure how he drew that conclusion. Sure, a board full of game show geeks (I use the term inclusively & affectionately) like this is going to discuss and/or poke fun at nearly every aspect of the show, the extracurriculars included. But for the most part, I thought the group here was enjoying watching it.
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Sure, a board full of game show geeks (I use the term inclusively & affectionately) like this is going to discuss and/or poke fun at nearly every aspect of the show, the extracurriculars included.
...which is all he needs. Mr. Abell was disinvited from the proceedings long ago for jackbaggery of this nature and has carried a grudge ever since.
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Really not sure how he drew that conclusion.
He's a goof. It's what he does.
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Caught the holiday-week episode over the weekend where after the 1st game (Most Expensive), Bob talked to his Beauties and asked each of them what they wanted for Christmas. When Bob asked Diane, she blushed and said she couldn't say what she wanted on air.
In hindsight, you wonder.....
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Pluto's made a slight update, in that you no longer have to wonder or search airdate calendars to figure out what episode is airing. The episode numbers are now included in Pluto's guide listings.
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According to their Instagram page, a week from tomorrow:
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On Tuesday 2/2 at 10am (EST), we will add 30 new episodes from 1983 in chronological order based on their original airdates. We will continue to expand the schedule throughout the month, until we have 200 episodes in rotation.
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Take your pick on this one...
During the Showcase Showdown, Bob asks what the three contestants would do with $11K. First woman says she would buy a house. Bob being Bob, he deflates that dream by telling her that won’t buy much of a house. Second woman says she’d have a baby, to which Bob tells her that’s not that works. Anyway, she got 50 cents, to which Bob says she can get a dog*.
Fast forward to the Showcases. Newlywed woman debates whether to keep hers and looks to the husband in the audience. She passes and Bob basically said if she keeps listening to her husband, her marriage will be very successful. When a few women boo, he notes that he didn’t see a man next to them.
The woman makes her bid, and Bob asks if she came up with that on her own. Again, take your pick.
*/Surprisingly, he didn’t offer to help her do so
//I keed
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When you’re the face of the most popular game show on in daytime I guess you can do what you damn well please.
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Take your pick on this one...
During the Showcase Showdown, Bob asks what the three contestants would do with $11K. First woman says she would buy a house. Bob being Bob, he deflates that dream by telling her that won’t buy much of a house. Second woman says she’d have a baby, to which Bob tells her that’s not that works. Anyway, she got 50 cents, to which Bob says she can get a dog*.
Fast forward to the Showcases. Newlywed woman debates whether to keep hers and looks to the husband in the audience. She passes and Bob basically said if she keeps listening to her husband, her marriage will be very successful. When a few women boo, he notes that he didn’t see a man next to them.
The woman makes her bid, and Bob asks if she came up with that on her own. Again, take your pick.
*/Surprisingly, he didn’t offer to help her do so
//I keed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dOV5WXISM24
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WTF did I just watch?!?!
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Take your pick on this one...
During the Showcase Showdown, Bob asks what the three contestants would do with $11K. First woman says she would buy a house. Bob being Bob, he deflates that dream by telling her that won’t buy much of a house. Second woman says she’d have a baby, to which Bob tells her that’s not that works. Anyway, she got 50 cents, to which Bob says she can get a dog*.
Fast forward to the Showcases. Newlywed woman debates whether to keep hers and looks to the husband in the audience. She passes and Bob basically said if she keeps listening to her husband, her marriage will be very successful. When a few women boo, he notes that he didn’t see a man next to them.
The woman makes her bid, and Bob asks if she came up with that on her own. Again, take your pick.
*/Surprisingly, he didn’t offer to help her do so
//I keed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dOV5WXISM24 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dOV5WXISM24)
Slaps.
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Got a pair of Roku TVs for Christmas (one for the family room, one for my bedroom), so I've caught some of the TPiR channel from time to time. Fun throwback to childhood sick days and summers.
-- Pre-Plinko, I would have to say Super Ball was my favorite game as a child. I understand why the game was eased out, but it was simply cool, as an eight-year-old, to see a childhood arcade staple being played on a game show (also liked the camera work on this game, particularly the closeup of the contestant preparing to roll with the audience behind them).
-- TPiR had a great deal of iconic music composed by Edd Kalehoff/Score Productions during this period, so I was surprised to hear the show use Herb Alpert's "Route 101" as the "Better Showcase" music a few times. Curious how long TPiR had that song in the rotation, and if they ever used other Alpert-composed music.
JD
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-- TPiR had a great deal of iconic music composed by Edd Kalehoff/Score Productions during this period, so I was surprised to hear the show use Herb Alpert's "Route 101" as the "Better Showcase" music a few times. Curious how long TPiR had that song in the rotation, and if they ever used other Alpert-composed music.
JD
Another interesting non-Kalehoff recurring music cue is the one that's played in the Mime showcases where Holly plays the mime. It is a variant of an "Odd Couple" underscore. Anyone know what that tune is?
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-- TPiR had a great deal of iconic music composed by Edd Kalehoff/Score Productions during this period, so I was surprised to hear the show use Herb Alpert's "Route 101" as the "Better Showcase" music a few times. Curious how long TPiR had that song in the rotation, and if they ever used other Alpert-composed music.
"Route 101" was used on the show as late as 1990, since it was used when plugging that year's Home Viewer Showcase.
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For everyone keeping track, according to Pluto's program guide, another set of new episodes starts tonight/Tuesday morning at 2 a.m. Eastern.
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So, how are these shows being aired now? Is it 6 per day in order, a constant loop with 24 episodes per day, or are they all shuffled with no respect to chronological order? I flipped it on last night and got an '82 episode promoting the Home Viewer Showcase.
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So, how are these shows being aired now? Is it 6 per day in order, a constant loop with 24 episodes per day, or are they all shuffled with no respect to chronological order? I flipped it on last night and got an '82 episode promoting the Home Viewer Showcase.
It's a constant loop with 24 shows per day. They air everything they have in order and then loop back to the beginning and air them all again.
They currently have 160 shows but all this month it seems they're adding around 30 new shows to the end of each rotation until they have 200 total.
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-- Pre-Plinko, I would have to say Super Ball was my favorite game as a child. I understand why the game was eased out, but it was simply cool, as an eight-year-old, to see a childhood arcade staple being played on a game show (also liked the camera work on this game, particularly the closeup of the contestant preparing to roll with the audience behind them).
Never really occurred to me when it originally aired, but I just realized that shot is coming from the camera behind the game, shooting through 1-way glass (or just a hole in the prop) under the score display. Cue Dick Gautier: "THERE'S A MAN ... BEHIND THERE!!!"
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So every two or three shows during the opening pan, I noticed the same woman sitting in the audience. She almost always enters the shot right at the end of the pan, and she always waves at the camera. Is that Fingers?
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So every two or three shows during the opening pan, I noticed the same woman sitting in the audience. She almost always enters the shot right at the end of the pan, and she always waves at the camera. Is that Fingers?
Gina Edwards-Nyman
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Are the audio dropouts an issue with Pluto or the tape(s)? Happening now with 4932.
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It may be the Pluto feed itself. They've had a handful of airings along the way that had audio sync issues (confirmed by other folks watching at the same time). Subsequent re-airings didn't have issues.
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Watching tonight and something strange is going on. A few seconds of the show is getting trimmed out at random moments. I noticed the last episode ended around 10:03, so I wonder if this is their automated system's way of catching up if it falls behind.
Edit: Something's off with their clock and their breaks must be running long, because we went into the break after the second Showcase Showdown at 10:55.
Also, upon seeing several playings of Blank Check/Check Game, I have reached the conclusion that the game primarily got a reputation because Bob could never figure out how to explain the game without making it sound convoluted as hell.
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Yeah, something is seriously wrong...clipping out bits and pieces and commercials are being dropped in at random points.
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They've obviously got something new going on. They've replaced their "We'll be back soon" screen with a blank screen with a PiR cue playing. But they've been frequently coming back from commercial without the sound kicking in for the first few seconds, along with the aforementioned jump cuts.
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I dunno how frequently this happens, but I watched an episode a couple weeks ago, and after the Showcase bids, Pluto showed a couple ads. The Pluto logo then popped up for a very extended period, and by the time they cut back to the show, they're rolling the credits. So if you wanna know what the margin of victory was, sorry about that Chief.
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From the sound of it, the feed people are recording off of doesn't have the dropouts/glitches, only the actual Pluto stream has the issues.
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I dunno how frequently this happens, but I watched an episode a couple weeks ago, and after the Showcase bids, Pluto showed a couple ads. The Pluto logo then popped up for a very extended period, and by the time they cut back to the show, they're rolling the credits. So if you wanna know what the margin of victory was, sorry about that Chief.
There are a couple of sources that do this. I've had it happen on the Pluto app on both my iPad and my Xfinity set top box. Happens far more often on the set top box than other places. It's very annoying. The best solution is to go to another channel and then jump back when you notice it's been a little while.
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Also, upon seeing several playings of Blank Check/Check Game, I have reached the conclusion that the game primarily got a reputation because Bob could never figure out how to explain the game without making it sound convoluted as hell.
Probably because the optimal way of approaching the game involves mental subtraction, something your average person is going to bristle at horribly. Even in my high school math classes, my teacher would introduce alternate ways to work out a problem just to avoid subtraction.
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Something seems to be up with Pluto, affecting some channels but not all. I actually had something like this happen yesterday with the BUZZR Pluto channel, though BUZZR on all other streaming services I checked seemed to be running ok. BUZZR & TPIR are the only Pluto channels where I personally have run across this issue as of late.
FWIW, this issue is also being discussed (https://facebook.com/groups/PlutoTVFans/permalink/706987273313366/?anchor_composer=false&ref=group_browse) on the aforementioned (Unofficial) Pluto TV Fans & Viewers Group on Facebook. Barker TPIR seems to be the consensus worst offender on this issue.
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Non-game show related, but one thing I noticed over the past week or so in watching the "Family Ties" and "Love Boat" channel is that it tends to repeat segments. For example, I watched the end of a Love Boat episode (last scenes and credits), then it played the whole sequence again.
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Non-game show related, but one thing I noticed over the past week or so in watching the "Family Ties" and "Love Boat" channel is that it tends to repeat segments. For example, I watched the end of a Love Boat episode (last scenes and credits), then it played the whole sequence again.
This happens quite a bit. They showed the movie Top Secret a few months ago, and the same thing happened. They repeated the previous ten minutes.
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So we're officially into season 12? The Pluto channel's Youtube posted a clip from The Phone Home Game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weNiEd9LweM&ab_channel=ThePriceIsRight%3ATheBarkerEra
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So we're officially into season 12? The Pluto channel's Youtube posted a clip from The Phone Home Game.
Today's episodes (presumably ten episodes to round out the promised 100 for Cycle 2) take us, assuming no skips, three episodes into season 12 -- including the first two playings of Phone Home Game.
It also means that, even if there are no skips whatsoever, the tail end of Cycle 3 in a couple months will just take us into a part of the run that GSN never aired either. Except for one Christmas '84 ep, GSN didn't air the daytime run at all from 2/10/84 until the end of season 14 in summer '86. (2/9/84 was the last show they aired before dropping it in 2000, while Season 15 (9/86) was one of their start points when they first got the show and aired a different season every day).
No skips in a 100 ep cycle 3 would see 2/10 and 2/13 airing for the first time since the 80s (plus anything after that that aired due to skips), while cycles 4+, assuming they stay in order, would have us in completely new reruns for approximately the next 500 episodes.
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They did air a VERY small number of episodes from seasons 13 and 14, but only as part of Win-TV. The three I'm aware of are 9/25/84, 10/9/84, and the 9/9/85 14th season premiere.
It'll be nice to see them without a crunched picture and poorly researched trivia questions in the corner!
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No skips in a 100 ep cycle 3 would see 2/10 and 2/13 airing for the first time since the 80s (plus anything after that that aired due to skips), while cycles 4+, assuming they stay in order, would have us in completely new reruns for approximately the next 500 episodes.
I know what you are saying, but the phrase "completely new reruns" amuses the heck out of me.
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It also means that, even if there are no skips whatsoever, the tail end of Cycle 3 in a couple months will just take us into a part of the run that GSN never aired either. Except for one Christmas '84 ep, GSN didn't air the daytime run at all from 2/10/84 until the end of season 14 in summer '86. (2/9/84 was the last show they aired before dropping it in 2000, while Season 15 (9/86) was one of their start points when they first got the show and aired a different season every day).
No skips in a 100 ep cycle 3 would see 2/10 and 2/13 airing for the first time since the 80s (plus anything after that that aired due to skips), while cycles 4+, assuming they stay in order, would have us in completely new reruns for approximately the next 500 episodes.
Based on your calcs, would these new cycles possibly include the time of the new announcer tryouts after Johnny's death?
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Based on your calcs, would these new cycles possibly include the time of the new announcer tryouts after Johnny's death?
I mean assuming they stay in order and keep adding new episodes, they'll get there eventually. But they've covered right at 1 year so far (9/82 to 9/83) and that's another 2 years and a month away (10/85) so it's going to be a little while. Each season from this point forward is between 185-200 shows all the way to the end of the 80s, so every two cycles of new episodes, staying in order, would cover just slightly more than a year.
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Do we know for a fact that they're going to keep rolling in new cycles of episodes? It's awesome that we've gotten 200 hours of content built up in less than three months, but as others have pointed out, that's been more than enough content for other Pluto channels to just keep looping indefinitely.
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Do we know for a fact that they're going to keep rolling in new cycles of episodes? It's awesome that we've gotten 200 hours of content built up in less than three months, but as others have pointed out, that's been more than enough content for other Pluto channels to just keep looping indefinitely.
One worthwhile difference is who actually runs the channel. The Barker TPiR channel is very definitely a Fremantle baby. Functionally speaking, the TPiR Channel is basically a Pluto-exclusive Buzzr 2 that runs nothing but Barker TPiR. I don't expect add-ons (or dropoffs) to be routine, but there isn't a show on Buzzr that doesn't get refreshed at least occasionally, so my guess and presumption is that they're going to get 200-300 episodes into full rotation, and then start dropping older episodes from the loop as they add newer ones. (In much the same way that Press Your Luck '83 or the first ~100 episodes of Super Password almost never turn up on Buzzr anymore).
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I wonder how they’ll handle the 30-minute daytime episodes that were produced to accommodate the Pillsbury contests biennially from 1984-94. Skip them? Air them twice in an hour so as not to throw off the schedule? Air them once and let the shows start on the half-hour for a while?
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Honestly, since whatever contracts that set this thing up clearly allow footage on social & youtube, and since Fremantle does it all the time with other shows (beyond just themed postings, also eps w/ tape damage and the B&W shows with tobacco sponsorship), I could absolutely see their posting the ep as a web exclusive to social and/or YT
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They did air a VERY small number of episodes from seasons 13 and 14, but only as part of Win-TV. The three I'm aware of are 9/25/84, 10/9/84, and the 9/9/85 14th season premiere.
It'll be nice to see them without a crunched picture and poorly researched trivia questions in the corner!
I have a couple others from around Christmas 1984, as well as the 10/1/84 episode, which has an unconfirmed lineup (grayed out) on the Golden Road calendar. They're all full screen from the early days of GSN.
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I have a couple others from around Christmas 1984, as well as the 10/1/84 episode, which has an unconfirmed lineup (grayed out) on the Golden Road calendar.
Holy crap, you do? Please, for the love of God, give me the lineup -- I don't even know one of the games on that episode.
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I have a couple others from around Christmas 1984, as well as the 10/1/84 episode, which has an unconfirmed lineup (grayed out) on the Golden Road calendar.
Holy crap, you do? Please, for the love of God, give me the lineup -- I don't even know one of the games on that episode.
Squeeze Play/Safe Crackers/Hole in One/Danger Price/Cliff Hangers/Money Game.
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I have a couple others from around Christmas 1984, as well as the 10/1/84 episode, which has an unconfirmed lineup (grayed out) on the Golden Road calendar.
Holy crap, you do? Please, for the love of God, give me the lineup -- I don't even know one of the games on that episode.
Squeeze Play/Safe Crackers/Hole in One/Danger Price/Cliff Hangers/Money Game.
Is there a way to confirm that this is definitely October 1 and not November 8? There are some mistakes in the pricing game records in that week of November, and one of the possible game combos they could result in is that set. A couple things I can think of that might narrow it down are the color of the opening titles and whether the Big Wheel's scoreboard is sportstype or vane.
Thanks in advance for checking this. I know it's a pain in the ass.
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I have a couple others from around Christmas 1984, as well as the 10/1/84 episode, which has an unconfirmed lineup (grayed out) on the Golden Road calendar.
Holy crap, you do? Please, for the love of God, give me the lineup -- I don't even know one of the games on that episode.
Squeeze Play/Safe Crackers/Hole in One/Danger Price/Cliff Hangers/Money Game.
Is there a way to confirm that this is definitely October 1 and not November 8? There are some mistakes in the pricing game records in that week of November, and one of the possible game combos they could result in is that set. A couple things I can think of that might narrow it down are the color of the opening titles and whether the Big Wheel's scoreboard is sportstype or vane.
Thanks in advance for checking this. I know it's a pain in the ass.
The opening titles are blue. The scoreboard in the SCSD is still the one from 1975.
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The scoreboard in the SCSD is still the one from 1975.
October 1 without a doubt, then. Thank you!
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Looks like we're back to 1982 again.
Also looks like the technical issues are resolved. (EDIT: Maybe I spoke too soon, but they seem to be less than before.)
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Looks like we're back to 1982 again.
Also looks like the technical issues are resolved. (EDIT: Maybe I spoke too soon, but they seem to be less than before.)
Yep, we hit the 200 episode mark on Friday afternoon. Now the question is how long they loop this 200 before they add and/or drop any from the rotation.
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If I were guessing, we'll see at least 100 more episodes probably around May. Even on the streaming side there's still enough of the traditional TV mentality that "add new things in February" probably isn't a coincidence relative to that month's importance under the linear tv ratings format. Also gives the current batch a few cycles to run through plus it does take time to get the episodes converted and screened.
If they keep adding on, eventually the number of episodes is going to get too unwieldy. There's 168 hours per week, so right now it takes them 8 1/3 days to run every episode they have. My *guess* is that somewhere no greater than 400, possibly less, they're going to start culling episodes from the front end of the run assuming they stick to their currently "all the episodes, looped" model. "Everything from 1982" as the first cull point gets rid of 76 shows from their rotation, keeps the Plinko debut, keeps everything from calendar year 1983, gets rid of everything with the old turntable, and gets rid of those early September/October '82 eps that have been seen BY FAR more than anything else on the channel so far, but assuming they keep adding new episodes, I think we're still a little way from that point. If the Fall '82 shows are still in rotation past the end of Cycle 4 (at which point we'd be a couple months into Fall '84) I'll be surprised unless the way the channel is scheduled changes.
Although in theory there's no reason they'd *have* to drop anything, beyond "storage capacity in the playout server".
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The scoreboard in the SCSD is still the one from 1975.
October 1 without a doubt, then. Thank you!
And I almost forgot the one other thing that helped me date the episode. Bob, forever keeping track of how well he does with inspiration putts, was bragging about having gotten two putts in a row prior to this episode, which he said meant he hadn't missed one all season.
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Looks like we're back to 1982 again.
Also looks like the technical issues are resolved. (EDIT: Maybe I spoke too soon, but they seem to be less than before.)
Update from Sunday night: You have spoken too soon.
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Update from Sunday night: You have spoken too soon.
Yep......Missed a showcase reveal last evening, the BUZZR feed was repeating segments and running like 3 minutes behind as well. I don't think I can watch again until it's resolved...At least I can get BUZZR on other means besides Pluto.
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Update from Sunday night: You have spoken too soon.
Yep......Missed a showcase reveal last evening, the BUZZR feed was repeating segments and running like 3 minutes behind as well. I don't think I can watch again until it's resolved...At least I can get BUZZR on other means besides Pluto.
I tried to watch $otC last night on Pluto’s Buzzr feed, and starting with the speed round, the audio kept dropping out. Very aggravating, and I had to turn it off as well. I try not to complain about a free service, but it’s annoying.
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I tried to watch $otC last night on Pluto’s Buzzr feed, and starting with the speed round, the audio kept dropping out. Very aggravating, and I had to turn it off as well. I try not to complain about a free service, but it’s annoying.
My solution might not be for everyone...But I use my VPN, and Locast (I like what it's doing for people, so I kick in the $6/mo donation) to get the locals from either NYC or Washington. Both of them have the BUZZR subchannel. I used to use NKT, but the feed became unreliable.
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As someone who is pulling Pluto stations from multiple sources, including a live feed from Pluto itself, I have observed that the issue appears to be in the venue Pluto is being consumed and not Pluto.
I'm not sure if Pluto is sending 'break' signals in the right spot and/or if Google/Amazon/Apple/Samsung/Roku/etc are not receiving it properly and/or ignoring it.
That said, I have observed on occasion, especially on the first airing of a show, where the Pluto live feed has audio/video sync issues that do not occur on subsequent airings. It's rare - with Price it happened on a couple of launch day episodes, and a couple of other occasions along the way.
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But I use my VPN, and Locast (I like what it's doing for people, so I kick in the $6/mo donation)
Curious, once you pay up, does it more or less stay out of the way or do you still get occasional begs for donations? $60 a year for guaranteed locals without dealing with an antenna is pretty compelling if we do cord-cut.
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I tried to watch $otC last night on Pluto’s Buzzr feed, and starting with the speed round, the audio kept dropping out. Very aggravating, and I had to turn it off as well. I try not to complain about a free service, but it’s annoying.
My solution might not be for everyone...But I use my VPN, and Locast (I like what it's doing for people, so I kick in the $6/mo donation) to get the locals from either NYC or Washington. Both of them have the BUZZR subchannel. I used to use NKT, but the feed became unreliable.
I'll have to keep an eye on this. Right now, my market isn't part of their list and they have a strict Geofencing policy preventing me from getting the nearest market, which is DC. My antenna is pretty spotty, so I got Youtube TV. I'd love to get this for local channels and subchannels like MeTV.
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I tried to watch $otC last night on Pluto’s Buzzr feed, and starting with the speed round, the audio kept dropping out. Very aggravating, and I had to turn it off as well. I try not to complain about a free service, but it’s annoying.
My solution might not be for everyone...But I use my VPN, and Locast (I like what it's doing for people, so I kick in the $6/mo donation) to get the locals from either NYC or Washington. Both of them have the BUZZR subchannel. I used to use NKT, but the feed became unreliable.
I'll have to keep an eye on this. Right now, my market isn't part of their list and they have a strict Geofencing policy preventing me from getting the nearest market, which is DC. My antenna is pretty spotty, so I got Youtube TV. I'd love to get this for local channels and subchannels like MeTV.
I posted this in another thread, but if you have the equipment and the time to experiment and set it up, Channels DVR (https://getchannels.com/) is an ideal solution for this. I am also doing what Aaron describes with a VPN and Locast. I run an older PC as a Channels DVR server, with an always-on VPN, and can record an OTA stream of Buzzr. I also feed my rooftop antenna into it. It has replaced my TiVo setup and is the bee's knees.
It's also possible to get a Buzzr feed without subscribing to Locast - it is the TV Everywhere feed that you can sync to Channels DVR with a free Sling TV account. Although I imagine that feed is likely what is being fed through PlutoTV, so YMMV with its reliability.
I will also add as information here: Channels does allow you to import Pluto TV channels, which I attempted to do to try to record the TPIR channel. Sadly, this proved to be a disaster, because the guide data didn't sync correctly and Pluto has so many channels that it clogged up my guide. I'm sure it would be possible to do with rules if you're very determined, but I didn't have the time to figure it out.
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Curious, once you pay up, does it more or less stay out of the way or do you still get occasional begs for donations? $60 a year for guaranteed locals without dealing with an antenna is pretty compelling if we do cord-cut.
Absolutely no begs for donations. Runs like a champ.
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Cosigning this. Locast gives an option to donate $5 or $10 a month. The only difference is $10 is for chumps. Literally, that is the only difference.
I get exactly 1 e-mail a month: a receipt.
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Cosigning this. Locast gives an option to donate $5 or $10 a month. The only difference is $10 is for chumps. Literally, that is the only difference.
I suppose that depends on how you feel about supporting the effort. (My primary concern is of them getting sued out of existence since their model isn't entirely different than Aereo's. They are already getting legal flak from the networks.)
You can prepay a year for $50, too, can't you?
/nope, apparently I'm wrong
//tho it does save the 50 cent processing fee
///props to them for sending a receipt tho
////whoa, apparently Seattle has a Buzzr affiliate now. Subchannel of Q13, 13.4.
/////would be nice if Buzzr themselves would share this information with the world
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////whoa, apparently Seattle has a Buzzr affiliate now. Subchannel of Q13, 13.4.
Oh. Oh. I have lived up here since August and work at one of the competitors and somehow am just learning this *in this very thread*
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////whoa, apparently Seattle has a Buzzr affiliate now. Subchannel of Q13, 13.4.
Oh. Oh. I have lived up here since August and work at one of the competitors and somehow am just learning this *in this very thread*
That's because KCPQ became a FOX O&O just last year, which explains the new Buzzr clearance.
I'm surprised that FOX has allowed them to keep their 40+ year branding as "Q13", instead of being branded as "FOX 13" (the "Q" in their current logo is a pretty big nod to their original 80s-era "Q").
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FOX is pretty cool with Q, right?
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Oh. Oh. I have lived up here since August and work at one of the competitors and somehow am just learning this *in this very thread*
Didn't know this; welcome to the 'hood. Yeah, I learned looking at Locast's channel list. Nothing on Buzzr's site at all, and Comcast doesn't appear to have picked it up yet, even though they seem to carry the other subchannels in the market.
Which competitor, if I may ask?
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FOX is pretty cool with Q, right?
I see what you did there.
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Oh. Oh. I have lived up here since August and work at one of the competitors and somehow am just learning this *in this very thread*
Didn't know this; welcome to the 'hood. Yeah, I learned looking at Locast's channel list. Nothing on Buzzr's site at all, and Comcast doesn't appear to have picked it up yet, even though they seem to carry the other subchannels in the market.
I made a quick search on my Comcast guide after seeing this. I was all excited for a bit until I realized it hasn't been picked up on cable just yet.
(Relative newcomer to the area myself. Moved to Whidbey Island September 2019)
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And to whoever unofficially named that certain Showcase music cue, "Nothing But Furniture"....
Every time I hear it now I have those three words going through my mind ad nauseum.
Damn You!
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And to whoever unofficially named that certain Showcase music cue, "Nothing But Furniture"....
Every time I hear it now I have those three words going through my mind ad nauseum.
Damn You!
I ought to look up the unofficial lyrics to it that were on Tony Harrison's site years ago.
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Along similar lines, am I the only one who sings his own lyrics to the consolation prize music every time...
"It's time to go,
end of the show.
Go back and sit,
You didn't win s**t--
except this stuff
you see right now.
That's all our bud-
get will allow..."
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I ought to look up the unofficial lyrics to it that were on Tony Harrison's site years ago.
For folks who've forgotten:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030602194738/http://tpir.tv/splendido.htm
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Have new shows been added into the rotation? I'm watching now, and there are balloons all over the set, which I'm guessing is for the opening week of the 1983-84 season. There's also a playing of the Phone Home Game, and I saw Deluxe Dice Game a couple nights ago.
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Have new shows been added into the rotation? I'm watching now, and there are balloons all over the set, which I'm guessing is for the opening week of the 1983-84 season. There's also a playing of the Phone Home Game, and I saw Deluxe Dice Game a couple nights ago.
The first 200 shows that they have been running went up through the first 3 shows of Season 12.
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Asked and answered. Thanks. Hopefully they bolster the rotation soon, though I'm not really expecting it.
EDIT: It appears I could have also found my answer a couple pages back in this thread, were my brain still functional.
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Per the channel's social media, another batch of 25 episodes (5002D-5051D) starts on Thursday.
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Nice to see more episodes, and I like that it's an odd number being added. Since I'm usually watching at the same time each night, I'm sure there are plenty of episodes from the current rotation I haven't seen, and this will shuffle up their air times a bit more.
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They're really getting mileage out of those (then) "new" cues
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The episode airing right this minute featured a contestant bombing out on Grand Game, winning just $1.
Bob says it was the first time it happened. Did he use this crutch a lot longer than I remember, or might it have been the first time?
Bob derides/interrogates her for about 30 seconds prior to the showcase showdown, making a somewhat sexist remark about a woman doing the shopping. Karma comes quickly when he messes up the scores during the same showdown
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There is a *lot* of "How many times has that happened?" Probably at least once a week.
One thing I've noticed watching this era is the high volume of recurring prizes. No wonder Ted Slausen was able to memorize things to such a degree. What would have stumped him every time, though, is the frequent package of L.A. pro sports season tickets featured in Take Two, Race Game, and Danger Price. Even in the context of something as much of a guessing game as Price, the tickets' arbitrary nature is another level. Watching tonight, the Kings' season tickets were $688. Last time I saw them, they were $1,4xx. (Lord have pity on whoever was dropping fifteen hundred bucks to watch the 1983 Kings.)
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Two things from me:
(https://i.imgur.com/0pVgla7.jpg)
From the "Before They Were Stars" department: Janet Jones, the future Mrs. Wayne Gretzky, was in one of the eps shown on Pluto TV so far, the April 4, 1983 ep.
Also:
Show #5011D, OAD 9/26/1983 was likely preempted completely in the East Coast (or had a good chunk of it preempted) due to a Presidential News Conference; I know that day's Press Your Luck ep met that fate. Can anybody confirm or deny this?
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Thought I've been having watching the Barker episodes from Pluto:
While on the whole I actually prefer the current show (Bob's shtick has aged like milk for one thing), one takeaway from Price in the 80s? Price in 2021 has entirely too many pricing games. Except for a handful of games clearly on their way out or don't fit for time, pretty much every game was played in the 80s with some degree of regularity.
The show has a significant number of games played less than 10 times per year now and it could easily cut 30 games from it's rotation and viewers would barely notice.
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The episode that just went off features a woman named Joanne, whose Showcase allowed her to become an extra on As The World Turns. Said Showcase also featured Meg Ryan and Frank Runyeon, who starred as one of the soap's supercouples.
Anyone know if Janice indeed appeared on ATWT?
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There is a *lot* of "How many times has that happened?" Probably at least once a week.
One thing I've noticed watching this era is the high volume of recurring prizes. No wonder Ted Slausen was able to memorize things to such a degree. What would have stumped him every time, though, is the frequent package of L.A. pro sports season tickets featured in Take Two, Race Game, and Danger Price. Even in the context of something as much of a guessing game as Price, the tickets' arbitrary nature is another level. Watching tonight, the Kings' season tickets were $688. Last time I saw them, they were $1,4xx. (Lord have pity on whoever was dropping fifteen hundred bucks to watch the 1983 Kings.)
I’ve always wondered about those LA sports tickets. Was there ever any mention of contestants being able to substitute them for tickets to the teams closest to where they lived? I would think that would be one of the most frequently declined prizes otherwise.
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I’ve always wondered about those LA sports tickets. Was there ever any mention of contestants being able to substitute them for tickets to the teams closest to where they lived? I would think that would be one of the most frequently declined prizes otherwise.
I think Roger's said that they always substituted cash when someone won the tickets.
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Thought I've been having watching the Barker episodes from Pluto:
While on the whole I actually prefer the current show (Bob's shtick has aged like milk for one thing), one takeaway from Price in the 80s? Price in 2021 has entirely too many pricing games. Except for a handful of games clearly on their way out or don't fit for time, pretty much every game was played in the 80s with some degree of regularity.
The show has a significant number of games played less than 10 times per year now and it could easily cut 30 games from it's rotation and viewers would barely notice.
I don't know. Cut the rotation down to 47 games and I think there's going to be too many repeats. A lot of games would have to show up on a weekly basis, and I can imagine viewers who watch regularly getting sick of seeing some games as much as they love seeing others. I like seeing some games often, but I don't need to see some combination of Bargain/Phone Home/Squeeze in the first half of a show three weeks in a row.
I don't think too many games are the reason they're playing some games less than 10 times per year. I think the reason is that they're just not playing them. Perhaps some are due to time constraints. But I can't believe we can't siphon off a couple of One Wrong Price's 23 playings last season to play Eazy as 1-2-3 more than eight times. They're just not properly rotating the games, which I do conceit could be a tough task due to the amount of games.
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Watching tonight, the Kings' season tickets were $688. Last time I saw them, they were $1,4xx. (Lord have pity on whoever was dropping fifteen hundred bucks to watch the 1983 Kings.)
I don't think I want to know the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask it anyhow.
How many tickets was this, did they mention? (Meaning: one seat, two seats, four? I know how many home games they play.)
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The show has a significant number of games played less than 10 times per year now and it could easily cut 30 games from it's rotation and viewers would barely notice.
On a couple of different occasions in the past, when an average person learned that I was working on TPIR, they would say, "You know that game where [rough description of how pricing game works]? You sure play that a lot, don't you?" There was an undercurrent of disappointment in the remark, and it was about a rarely won game like Lucky Seven or That's Too Much.
If the choice is between a casual viewer reacting with "Lucky Seven again?" or "I don't recognize any of these games," I think the latter is preferable. I've been dipping in and out of the Pluto episodes when I can, and it seems like many contestants don't know the rules to the weekly games, even with significantly fewer games in the rotation compared to today. So from an on-air point of view, there's little benefit to getting rid of a lot of games.
Of course, the reason games like Lucky Seven and That's Too Much are played so frequently is because they don't take much time, and with program content time dwindling, that's crucial. I do think the current show relies a little too heavily on the quick games, but it would be impossible to get a perfect rotation.
But I can't believe we can't siphon off a couple of One Wrong Price's 23 playings last season to play Eazy as 1-2-3 more than eight times.
Easy as 1 2 3 is timed either 30 seconds or 60 seconds longer than One Wrong Price, depending on what the current timings are -- having the contestant walk around to place the blocks does make the game take longer. I know that 30 or 60 seconds doesn't sound like much, but that time has to be made up somewhere. So if you want to play Easy as 1 2 3 instead of One Wrong Price, you'll end up, for example, playing Lucky Seven instead of Any Number to get the show to come in on time. But the show has fewer car games than not-car games, so Lucky Seven may already be needed somewhere else in the week.
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The show has a significant number of games played less than 10 times per year now and it could easily cut 30 games from it's rotation and viewers would barely notice.
I don't know. Cut the rotation down to 47 games and I think there's going to be too many repeats.
Agreed. Each show week needs 30 of 'em. Regarding this issue, I had the opposite reaction to watching Pluto. Seeing the retired stuff is nice, of course, and seeing other games uptick in their frequency was equally fun. But, in so far as you have storage space, I don't see the harm in having some games that literally show up a handful of times per year.
Poker Game -- which was not a good game -- became "something" to me when it would make its once-in-a-blue-moon appearances in the later Barker years. Heck, even Pick-a-Number showing up used to be a welcome distraction from the unending parade of playing Squeeze Play, Coming or Going, et al. I understand ditching a game like Step Up, because it has a huge footprint, and doesn't offer enough to justify its real estate when you could play Take Two or Race Game instead. But when it comes to most "rare" games, I like that they're there, so I know I'm not guaranteed to see the same rotation too quickly.
-Jason
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I guess, to put it another way, Jeopardy! could theoretically run a regular rotation of the same broad category topics on the board each week. SCIENCE, HISTORY, MOVIES, LITERATURE...the show would function the same way, but you'd lose something without the (perception of) variety. So even if there's a worry on Price that something like Easy as 123 has a harder time fitting into lineups due to timing, I think it's far better to have the game show up every other month than to see Most Expensive again, and again, and again...
-Jason
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Watching tonight, the Kings' season tickets were $688. Last time I saw them, they were $1,4xx. (Lord have pity on whoever was dropping fifteen hundred bucks to watch the 1983 Kings.)
I don't think I want to know the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask it anyhow.
How many tickets was this, did they mention? (Meaning: one seat, two seats, four? I know how many home games they play.)
I believe it is "season tickets for two," but honestly my brain might just be inserting the "for two" accidentally.
I know the most common price they have for the Raiders tickets is $360, which would be $18/ticket if it was for two, or $36/ticket for one.
Here's a 1983 Raiders season ticket stub with an $18 face value.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1983-Los-Angeles-Raiders-vs-Houston-Oilers-Football-Ticket-Stub-/174011120253?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
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I've been out of the loop, how far in Season 12 has Pluto gone?
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I've been out of the loop, how far in Season 12 has Pluto gone?
IIRC, they made it to Feb. 27, 1984.
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12 more episodes are getting added to the rotation on Sunday 9/12, with each featuring a big cash win as a tie-in to the start of Season 50.
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I guess it's also worth mentioning that they added 35 episodes earlier this week, with a few skips that mostly look like they'll get filled in during Sunday's marathon.
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I've been out of the loop, how far in Season 12 has Pluto gone?
IIRC, they made it to Feb. 27, 1984.
They've now gotten to early April 1984 as of today.
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Sorry to bring this up if it is already elsewhere on the forum…
Is anyone keeping track of these Pluto episodes and what is currently in rotation?
I know a few of us were keeping closer track of the aired episodes when the channel started, but I’ve lost track.
Same actually goes for the Buzzr schedule. I know there is a way to pull more data from a schedule to see episode numbers, but I can’t seem to track that info down. Perhaps it could be a sticky on this forum?
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Sorry to bring this up if it is already elsewhere on the forum…
Is anyone keeping track of these Pluto episodes and what is currently in rotation?
I know a few of us were keeping closer track of the aired episodes when the channel started, but I’ve lost track.
Same actually goes for the Buzzr schedule. I know there is a way to pull more data from a schedule to see episode numbers, but I can’t seem to track that info down. Perhaps it could be a sticky on this forum?
The folks on the golden-road.net Discord have a Google Sheet with some notes on the episodes that have aired so far (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrjFTmcmDCcZCUwHvezgyJZdAV19bC01RWJmBRyc6Ko).
Right now, the channel is airing all 335 episodes that they've converted so far in chronological order (from September 13, 1982-April 23, 1984), taking about 2 weeks to get through each cycle.
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Same actually goes for the Buzzr schedule. I know there is a way to pull more data from a schedule to see episode numbers, but I can’t seem to track that info down. Perhaps it could be a sticky on this forum?
I've been keeping track of the schedule, and creating annotated PDF's... here's the most recent ones.
(OTA)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_4sH6PCiLZhtURIBu6Ud_9IdChIc4Scj/view?usp=sharing
(Stream)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PnYH7cxKPYomoZsTMYabt_PRSOiDfAOy/view?usp=sharing
I can share these here when I create the next batch, if you'd like.
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I've been keeping track of the schedule, and creating annotated PDF's... here's the most recent ones.
Wow. These are reminiscent of the old GSN schedules back in the day. Looks great! Great work!
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I've been keeping track of the schedule, and creating annotated PDF's... here's the most recent ones.
Wow. These are reminiscent of the old GSN schedules back in the day. Looks great! Great work!
To be fair, I was trying to emulate the GSN documents when I designed these. Thanks!
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To be fair, I was trying to emulate the GSN documents when I designed these. Thanks!
Yes, Bryce, thank you for the great work here. Very handy now that Buzzr is airing some new stuff!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFZ2uGjeLw - This is crazy, but in this vid, which has the first time that the whole $15K jackpot was won on the Phone Home Game, happened to air three days after Michael Larsen struck gold on Press Your Luck (6/11/1984 for Larsen, part 2, 6/14 for the PHG win)! Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the PHG coming back with the modern technology we have.
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William got screwed in that one-bid. In fact, the whole thing should have been done over.
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William got screwed in that one-bid. In fact, the whole thing should have been done over.
I'm surprised William didn't speak up. He was probably afraid of looking like a jerk if he asked to change his bid.
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For all of our retroactive sanity, I'm just going to pretend that he would have changed his bid to $481 instead of $581.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW8gmPJQ-oo
Holy smokes. Look at how much this dude won. That one-day high (for a CBS game show) won't stand for long, as some ice cream truck driver obliterates it a month down the road......
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The folks on the golden-road.net Discord have a Google Sheet with some notes on the episodes that have aired so far (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MrjFTmcmDCcZCUwHvezgyJZdAV19bC01RWJmBRyc6Ko).
Right now, the channel is airing all 335 episodes that they've converted so far in chronological order (from September 13, 1982-April 23, 1984), taking about 2 weeks to get through each cycle.
If they're correct in their presumptions, I believe new episodes would start 10/4 at 9AM ET.
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I recall in the Big Bucks documentary, Peter Tomarken mentioned that prior to Michael Larsen, CBS daytime contestant's grand totals "never, and I mean never, went over $40,000." I figured that was just as a general rule, not that the actual record was right at $39,000 and change. Nice precise research on their part, I suppose.
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I think that goes more to the fact that no show save for $25,000 Pyramid would let people get close. If you’re on Double Dare and have $19,750 your next swing at the spoilers puts you over the $20,000 limit, ditto with Match Game even if you spin double. Other than hitting a trifecta on TPIR of a huge prize in your stage game, getting paid at the wheel and the both showcases it wasn’t an issue until the mid-80s, and then just PYL and Card Sharks.
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I think that goes more to the fact that no show save for $25,000 Pyramid would let people get close.
Very true. Tomarken even said "Even on The Price is Right...", indicating that was pretty much your only chance to do it at the time.
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If you’re on Double Dare and have $19,750 your next swing at the spoilers puts you over the $20,000 limit
Not necessarily. You got $100 each time a Spoiler didn't give the correct answer, so in that case it's possible to get $0-$200 and then go over the limit on your next front-game win.
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Thanks, Dan, for totally bulldozing over my intent.
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No date announced (and it’s not showing up in the lineup yet), but TPIR: The Barker Era, along with BUZZR, is set to join (https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/redbox-will-add-3-new-channels-in-content-deal-with-freemantle/?source=home) Redbox’s free live streaming service (https://www.redbox.com/stream-free-live-tv). (Which will make it the first non-Pluto service to carry TPIR Barker if I’m not mistaken.)
https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/redbox-will-add-3-new-channels-in-content-deal-with-freemantle/?source=home
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No date announced (and it’s not showing up in the lineup yet)
Literally says twice (once in giant letters), they start December 1.
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No date announced (and it’s not showing up in the lineup yet), but TPIR: The Barker Era, along with BUZZR, is set to join (https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/redbox-will-add-3-new-channels-in-content-deal-with-freemantle/?source=home) Redbox’s free live streaming service (https://www.redbox.com/stream-free-live-tv). (Which will make it the first non-Pluto service to carry TPIR Barker if I’m not mistaken.)
https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/redbox-will-add-3-new-channels-in-content-deal-with-freemantle/?source=home
they're adding them on 12/1 (maybe Pluto had a 1-year exclusivity on TPIR:Barker Era, so the date makes sense)
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No date announced (and it’s not showing up in the lineup yet)
Literally says twice (once in giant letters), they start December 1.
I stand corrected.
(In my defense, I saw this story earlier elsewhere, skimmed it & figured it was the same write-up. ;D)
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Has Pluto been pulling a Milli Vinilli for anyone else? After playing for about an hour, the stream gets stuck in about a two-second loop until I restart it.
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This Sunday, episodes from October-December 1984 will be added to the rotation. This according to their Facebook.
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The Roku Channel just added the Barker Era stream to their live TV guide (https://therokuchannel.roku.com/watch/2abc26611d6b54368c29172db2a00782). Also, IMDB TV recently added the stream to their service.
Interestingly, they play different episodes than the Pluto feed, and has fewer commercials; each episode plays in about 50 minutes. A few days ago, they played some episodes from late 1984/early 1985 that Pluto's stream skipped over.
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The Roku Channel just added the Barker Era stream to their live TV guide (https://therokuchannel.roku.com/watch/2abc26611d6b54368c29172db2a00782). Also, IMDB TV recently added the stream to their service.
Interestingly, they play different episodes than the Pluto feed, and has fewer commercials; each episode plays in about 50 minutes. A few days ago, they played some episodes from late 1984/early 1985 that Pluto's stream skipped over.
The way I understand it, the internal numbering system accounts for most of those missing episodes, with the exception of the first playing One Away, which usually means Pluto has an upcoming marathon during which they'll be added to the rotation.
What's more interesting to me is that they actually went several weeks beyond where Pluto's most recent loop ended. I'm sure Pluto will add them in the current loop, but it's a little weird that the whole thing seems so uncoordinated.
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I think they’re showing 1983 episodes on Pluto right now (the guide says S12E5034). Was there a directing change around this point? I noticed some interesting experimentation, such as using a framed art card for the “and to the winner goes a supply of” plug…” vs. simply holding the item up.
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I think they’re showing 1983 episodes on Pluto right now (the guide says S12E5034). Was there a directing change around this point? I noticed some interesting experimentation, such as using a framed art card for the “and to the winner goes a supply of” plug…” vs. simply holding the item up.
This is right about the time that the iris started being used in the intro as well. I think Breslow was just playing around with new ideas in 83. Paul Alter didn't take over till 86.
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1983 seems like a huge transitional year for TPIR from what I've seen. (And this opinion is solely mine, and possibly filtered through the lens of it being the show I remember watching at age 4 or 5.) Plinko's debut that January is probably as good a line of demarcation as any for the show moving from "daytime staple" to "cultural touchstone," but you also can see the set revamp leading up to it. It also seems like as the year wears on, there's a bit more variety to the prizes and the overall production gets cleaner and smoother. You start seeing fancy wipes, occasional shows with two car games and a cash game, and by the time the 83-84 season starts, five-digit car games. Then you get things like the tugboat and the robot, new games with fancier props - it feels like CBS/Goodson suddenly had more money to throw around and put it into the show.
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From the looks of the production itself, I feel like 33 might have gotten a newer and more advanced switcher at some point in the back half of season 11. Idle speculating, but Newer and more experimental wipes and effects start to appear in the latter part of the season more consistent with 80s studio production than the 1980-82 "very 70s" production choices, existing shots and effects are clearly getting re-evaluated, and the show overall willingness to change up the look and feel that tends to come in the wake of new stuff - and a desire to stay relevant and modern, especially for Price when it was hitting the age that most other long lasting daytime games tended to fade)
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From the looks of the production itself, I feel like 33 might have gotten a newer and more advanced switcher at some point in the back half of season 11.
Just maybe. I know it was around 1983-84 that they replaced their cameras; they might've decided to slip in the switcher upgrade while they were at it.
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the show overall willingness to change up the look and feel that tends to come in the wake of new stuff - and a desire to stay relevant and modern
The exception to that was how long they clung onto the physical credit roll over the Chyron. (Or am I wrong and this goes into the "Game show false memories" thread?)
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the show overall willingness to change up the look and feel that tends to come in the wake of new stuff - and a desire to stay relevant and modern
The exception to that was how long they clung onto the physical credit roll over the Chyron. (Or am I wrong and this goes into the "Game show false memories" thread?)
As I recall, chyron credits were briefly used in the late 80s or early 90s, then the credit roll came back for most of the 90s.
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the show overall willingness to change up the look and feel that tends to come in the wake of new stuff - and a desire to stay relevant and modern
The exception to that was how long they clung onto the physical credit roll over the Chyron. (Or am I wrong and this goes into the "Game show false memories" thread?)
As I recall, chyron credits were briefly used in the late 80s or early 90s, then the credit roll came back for most of the 90s.
Very briefly. IIRC, they only used it once in 1988 (see below), then went back to art cards until '96. I think the 25th Anniversary special was when they switched to CG for good.
According to Youtube, this was the 1987-88 season finale, so maybe they thought about switching to CG the following season and reconsidered?
(https://i.ibb.co/DQNq5pL/Screen-Shot-2022-03-03-at-9-20-24-PM.png)
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Two things worked against the Chyron experiment:
1) The experimental graphics (partially owing to choices and partly owing to the limits of the 1988 tech) looked like absolute ass.
2) It coincided right around the time when Price as a show really starts to harden into the generally change-avoidant pop culture monolith that it was up until Barker retired. In the shadow of Breslow retiring in Fall '86 and Alter becoming director as well as Frank Wayne's death in March '88 leading to Barker's (and his sycophants') total control, the show basically froze in place for the better part of 20 years.
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Another observation from the block of episodes airing right now: Was Double Prices ever played for anything worth a damn? I don't recall seeing a prize worth more than $2000 and seems like it's always a baker's rack or other useless piece of furniture.
In comparison, at least some of the Poker Game prizes were useful, even if they weren't worth very much.
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They’ve played Double Prices for trips.
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Another observation from the block of episodes airing right now: Was Double Prices ever played for anything worth a damn? I don't recall seeing a prize worth more than $2000 and seems like it's always a baker's rack or other useless piece of furniture.
Per the Golden Road timeline, there are a few instances of them playing it for a car. With the exact point we're at, the next time that'll happen is on 5385D [6/22/84; the Season 12 finale], and you can catch it this Tuesday at 7:00pm on the Pluto/Redbox stream.
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I watched an episode within the last 24 hours. Blank Check was the pricing game. Bob made a remark (not verbatim) about being glad about having a male contestant, because women don’t get it. Upon hearing boos, he made a comment to the effect of “Put down your ERA signs”.
The male contestant proceeded to write the check for $2695. The prize was $1990 and marked the largest difference I’ve seen in this era.
Later on, the Crayola writing desk that’s been mentioned in this thread was offered as a small prize. One of the models wrote “Women know Blank Check” on the top sheet. Barker marched over and wrote “BOO” at the very top.
All around, poor show, even for 1983.
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Later on, the Crayola writing desk that’s been mentioned in this thread was offered as a small prize. One of the models wrote “Women know Blank Check” on the top sheet. Barker marched over and wrote “BOO” at the very top.
The casual sexism from this era irritates me, but I love how passive-aggressively the desk has been used in some of these episodes.
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Not to in any way diminish what Barker said (I posted a few things back in 2020), but I’m surprised that hosts were still so casually sexist even in the mid-80s, as women has long proven they were more than just housewives or eye candy. I’ve seen it on a few shows of the era where the hosts are dismissive or talk to female contestants like they’re five.
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A decade prior, but Jack Narz constantly refers to the adult female contestants as "girls" on Now You See It.
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Not to in any way diminish what Barker said (I posted a few things back in 2020), but I’m surprised that hosts were still so casually sexist even in the mid-80s, as women has long proven they were more than just housewives or eye candy. I’ve seen it on a few shows of the era where the hosts are dismissive or talk to female contestants like they’re five.
I think we have to view these shows with a backward-eye and know that times change and mores change and decide whether to enjoy it or not.
/the women were certainly lining up to win a car, trip or thousands in cash, not that it excuses ol' Bob.
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Of course, and I'm never one to huff and puff over what was said on an old TV show. Different era, etc.
Still makes me raise an eyebrow at times, looking at it through a 2022 lens.
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
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Allen Ludden?
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
I hear you, and I think those guys were relics of their time. But Dawson did his kissing with consent, and Ludden was always respectful of female contestants on camera as I can recall, the “doll” thing notwithstanding. Neither of them were as blatantly disrespectful as Barker could be at times. I’ll grant you Rayburn.
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
How many people did Allen Ludden say "Hi Doll" to, aside from his mother-in-law?
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
I hear you, and I think those guys were relics of their time. But Dawson did his kissing with consent, and Ludden was always respectful of female contestants on camera as I can recall, the “doll” thing notwithstanding. Neither of them were as blatantly disrespectful as Barker could be at times. I’ll grant you Rayburn.
Let's also remember that "Doll" was Allen's nickname for Betty's mother, so I'd consider it very different from the other examples since it's directed at a specific person who he knows well. Also, I don't think Betty would let him get away with much.
I try to separate things that were done without negative intent but aren't OK by modern standards from the overt prejudice or abuse of power that you could get away with at the time because the people who it was directed against didn't have enough social clout to put a stop to it. I'd put Jack Narz calling adult women "girls" in the former category, Richard Dawson's kisses and Gene Rayburn's lechery somewhere in between, and a lot of Barker's on- and off-camera behavior into the latter category.
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
How many people did Allen Ludden say "Hi Doll" to, aside from his mother-in-law?
To people who did not know the background, the daytime audience.
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
I hear you, and I think those guys were relics of their time. But Dawson did his kissing with consent, and Ludden was always respectful of female contestants on camera as I can recall, the “doll” thing notwithstanding. Neither of them were as blatantly disrespectful as Barker could be at times. I’ll grant you Rayburn.
Let's also remember that "Doll" was Allen's nickname for Betty's mother, so I'd consider it very different from the other examples since it's directed at a specific person who he knows well. Also, I don't think Betty would let him get away with much.
I try to separate things that were done without negative intent but aren't OK by modern standards from the overt prejudice or abuse of power that you could get away with at the time because the people who it was directed against didn't have enough social clout to put a stop to it. I'd put Jack Narz calling adult women "girls" in the former category, Richard Dawson's kisses and Gene Rayburn's lechery somewhere in between, and a lot of Barker's on- and off-camera behavior into the latter category.
Agreed. The only thing where I might quibble with your categorizations is that I’d probably put Rayburn a few steps ahead of Dawson on the scale, since Dawson’s kissing seemingly was consensual and much of Rayburn’s activity seemingly wasn’t. But otherwise, I think you and I are totally in agreement.
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
How many people did Allen Ludden say "Hi Doll" to, aside from his mother-in-law?
To people who did not know the background, the daytime audience.
Good lord...
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
How many people did Allen Ludden say "Hi Doll" to, aside from his mother-in-law?
To people who did not know the background, the daytime audience.
Good lord...
Don't bring Him into it...
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
How many people did Allen Ludden say "Hi Doll" to, aside from his mother-in-law?
To people who did not know the background, the daytime audience.
Good lord...
It does sound crazy, but it was a violation of FCC rules of the time to do shout-outs to individuals. If something was being broadcast, it had to be to the total audience.
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While growing up and watching lots of 80s daytime shows, I remember my Mom did not like Barker at all. She didn't mind the other game shows (except that PYL was too loud!) - but she just didn't like Barker. Watching these episodes from this era, I can see why.
Must have been an interesting dynamic between Barker and the rest of them during this time. Given the ratings, Barker probably felt like he could get away with it. Can't think of any other hosts of the era that were as overt with comments like this.
Most hosts were like this. Gene "Pretty Dimples" Rayburn, Richard "The Kissing Bandit" Dawson, Allen "Hi Doll" Ludden......
How many people did Allen Ludden say "Hi Doll" to, aside from his mother-in-law?
To people who did not know the background, the daytime audience.
Good lord...
It does sound crazy, but it was a violation of FCC rules of the time to do shout-outs to individuals. If something was being broadcast, it had to be to the total audience.
You've been watching too much Match Game.
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FWIW, just came across an episode of Barker TPIR on the Roku Channel that had a very familiar contestant that also appeared on Press Your Luck:
If you remember Beverlie Peters (she would appear in one of the rotating opening contestant segments that went cross-eyed after hitting a Big Bucks square.
She came on down as contestant #9, played game 6, and made it to the showcase in 1982, prior to PYL.