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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Bryce L. on April 13, 2020, 11:10:28 AM
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Schedules for May 4 to 11 are out, and there are a few moves and switches...
- Sale of the Century (weekdays at 9am) switches over to the 1988 shows once more, beginning at episode 1410 (July 12, 1988)
- Supermarket Sweep (weekdays at 9:30am) switches back into 1993 again, starting at episode 1394.
- For at least the week of May 4, Press Your Luck is airing episodes from 1985 (these look to be episodes from one of their prior gimmick marathons)
- Card Sharks with Jim Perry (weeknights at 9:30pm) rewinds back to 1978, picking up at episode 103 (September 13, 1978)
- Card Sharks with Bob Eubanks once again has a weekend slot, airing from 7 to 8pm Saturday evenings. This shoves Bzzz! into Saturday/Sunday overnights from 2 to 3am, replacing To Tell The Truth 73 in that slot.
- Now You See It 74 is now on Sunday nights from 10 to 11pm (with repeat from 1 to 2am Sunday/Monday), with Body Language 85 moving into NYSI's current slot of 4 to 5am Saturday/Sunday.
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This shoves Bzzz! into Saturday/Sunday overnights from 2 to 3am, replacing To Tell The Truth 73 in that slot.
Probably the most meaningful of what are some relatively minor changes. (Good to see NYSI getting a little love, though).
It was an outside licensed show and Buzzr testing the water on relationship shows (something Goodson generally didn't do) - and fairly heavily promoted on the network - but is now being pushed to one of the lowest rated slots on cable - now replaced with another cycle of Card Sharks '86.
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Aww, I was actually getting kinda getting into Bzzz!...but also not surprised.
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With the exception of Temptation, of the post-1990 shows they had added to the schedule, nothing has lasted more than a couple of months.
This despite the shows (Bzzz, Temptation, Celebrity Name Game) being newer and fresher than Buzzr's other offerings.
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With the exception of Temptation, of the post-1990 shows they had added to the schedule, nothing has lasted more than a couple of months.
This despite the shows (Bzzz, Temptation, Celebrity Name Game) being newer and fresher than Buzzr's other offerings.
How long has Supermarket Sweep been on there? Seems to be doing pretty well.
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With the exception of Temptation, of the post-1990 shows they had added to the schedule, nothing has lasted more than a couple of months.
This despite the shows (Bzzz, Temptation, Celebrity Name Game) being newer and fresher than Buzzr's other offerings.
How long has Supermarket Sweep been on there? Seems to be doing pretty well.
I should have said shows that originally began post-1995. Sweep began *in* 1990.
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With the exception of Temptation, of the post-1990 shows they had added to the schedule, nothing has lasted more than a couple of months.
This despite the shows (Bzzz, Temptation, Celebrity Name Game) being newer and fresher than Buzzr's other offerings.
How long has Supermarket Sweep been on there? Seems to be doing pretty well.
Sweep has been there since January 2018.
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Schedules for May 4 to 11 are out, and there are a few moves and switches...
Now You See It 74 is now on Sunday nights from 10 to 11pm (with repeat from 1 to 2am Sunday/Monday),
YAY!!!!!
with Body Language 85 moving into NYSI's current slot of 4 to 5am Saturday/Sunday.
BOOOO!!!!!
Cordially,
Tammy
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This despite the shows (Bzzz, Temptation, Celebrity Name Game) being newer and fresher than Buzzr's other offerings.
Temptation was a ratings disaster in it's original run, never cracking a 1.0 as far as I can recall. Despite that, on Buzzr it ran for close to a year at 7:30pm ET (Concentration '76s current slot) in 2019. (Edit: 1/14/19 to 9/27/19) - It's Buzzr run has honestly probably been more successful than it's syndication run.
Bzzz only did a year in first run as well although reruns kept going for a few years in late night, and clearly didn't have nostalgia beyond a short burst, while Celebrity Name Game has zero nostalgia factor and wasn't ever THAT great of a performer in many cities - honestly, outside of about a dozen stalwarts first run syndication has been a dying market for years
Also: Because Fremantle owns the channel, the base of content they have to work from without having a format shift is going to pretty heavily restrict them to shows from Pre-1995 in general anyway. The pool of stuff post-Goodson is honestly quite shallow. (Although honestly I'm kind of hoping to see the 2002 Beat the Clock revival turn up at some point and honestly? I think Match Game '98 is worth a revisit)
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Bzzz only did a year in first run as well although reruns kept going for a few years in late night, and clearly didn't have nostalgia beyond a short burst, while Celebrity Name Game has zero nostalgia factor and wasn't ever THAT great of a performer in many cities - honestly, outside of about a dozen stalwarts first run syndication has been a dying market for years
Also: Because Fremantle owns the channel, the base of content they have to work from without having a format shift is going to pretty heavily restrict them to shows from Pre-1995 in general anyway. The pool of stuff post-Goodson is honestly quite shallow. (Although honestly I'm kind of hoping to see the 2002 Beat the Clock revival turn up at some point and honestly? I think Match Game '98 is worth a revisit)
Annie Wood's very nice and she did some promos for Bzzz, but I can't imagine any of the 1990s dating shows ever getting significant viewership 25 or more years later--including Studs and Singled Out, which were more popular.
I would like to see the 2000-2002 To Tell the Truth again, but IMHO the 1998 Match Game and 2001 Card Sharks were good examples of how not to reboot a property, and probably wouldn't be worth more than a once-in-a-blue-moon spot.
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Temptation was a ratings disaster in it's original run, never cracking a 1.0 as far as I can recall.
If I'm remembering correctly, the 1.0 they got was only for the preview shows that aired on MyNetworkTV, with the series floating between 0.4 and 0.6.
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Bzzz only did a year in first run as well although reruns kept going for a few years in late night, and clearly didn't have nostalgia beyond a short burst, while Celebrity Name Game has zero nostalgia factor and wasn't ever THAT great of a performer in many cities - honestly, outside of about a dozen stalwarts first run syndication has been a dying market for years
Also: Because Fremantle owns the channel, the base of content they have to work from without having a format shift is going to pretty heavily restrict them to shows from Pre-1995 in general anyway. The pool of stuff post-Goodson is honestly quite shallow. (Although honestly I'm kind of hoping to see the 2002 Beat the Clock revival turn up at some point and honestly? I think Match Game '98 is worth a revisit)
Annie Wood's very nice and she did some promos for Bzzz, but I can't imagine any of the 1990s dating shows ever getting significant viewership 25 or more years later--including Studs and Singled Out, which were more popular.
I would like to see the 2000-2002 To Tell the Truth again, but IMHO the 1998 Match Game and 2001 Card Sharks were good examples of how not to reboot a property, and probably wouldn't be worth more than a once-in-a-blue-moon spot.
I know GSN aired a Louie episode a few years ago, along with the Karn run, but I'm surprised the first decade of Feud hasn't aired on Buzzr, even in a weekend capacity or one-off. If they're going with recent properties (recent meaning since 2000), why not go with one that at least scored decent ratings?
Unless they don't wanna confuse the viewers who might wonder why Al from Home Improvement is hosting Feud.
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Unless they don't wanna confuse the viewers who might wonder why Al from Home Improvement is hosting Feud.
Or where all the dick jokes are.
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Unless they don't wanna confuse the viewers who might wonder why Al from Home Improvement is hosting Feud.
Or where all the dick jokes are.
I LOL'd. :P
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Bzzz only did a year in first run as well although reruns kept going for a few years in late night, and clearly didn't have nostalgia beyond a short burst, while Celebrity Name Game has zero nostalgia factor and wasn't ever THAT great of a performer in many cities - honestly, outside of about a dozen stalwarts first run syndication has been a dying market for years
Also: Because Fremantle owns the channel, the base of content they have to work from without having a format shift is going to pretty heavily restrict them to shows from Pre-1995 in general anyway. The pool of stuff post-Goodson is honestly quite shallow. (Although honestly I'm kind of hoping to see the 2002 Beat the Clock revival turn up at some point and honestly? I think Match Game '98 is worth a revisit)
Annie Wood's very nice and she did some promos for Bzzz, but I can't imagine any of the 1990s dating shows ever getting significant viewership 25 or more years later--including Studs and Singled Out, which were more popular.
I would like to see the 2000-2002 To Tell the Truth again, but IMHO the 1998 Match Game and 2001 Card Sharks were good examples of how not to reboot a property, and probably wouldn't be worth more than a once-in-a-blue-moon spot.
I know GSN aired a Louie episode a few years ago, along with the Karn run, but I'm surprised the first decade of Feud hasn't aired on Buzzr, even in a weekend capacity or one-off. If they're going with recent properties (recent meaning since 2000), why not go with one that at least scored decent ratings?
Unless they don't wanna confuse the viewers who might wonder why Al from Home Improvement is hosting Feud.
Buzzr has tried Louie Anderson's version on weekdays a couple times and Karn's was in that Friday night block with Temptation and Celebrity Name Game for a while.
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Buzzr has tried Louie Anderson's version on weekdays a couple times and Karn's was in that Friday night block with Temptation and Celebrity Name Game for a while.
I sit corrected. Somehow this escaped me. Thanks.
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Also: Because Fremantle owns the channel, the base of content they have to work from without having a format shift is going to pretty heavily restrict them to shows from Pre-1995 in general anyway. The pool of stuff post-Goodson is honestly quite shallow. (Although honestly I'm kind of hoping to see the 2002 Beat the Clock revival turn up at some point and honestly? I think Match Game '98 is worth a revisit)
I've come to a theory that Buzzr works best as the "oldies" station and stuff like Temptation and CNG don't fit the format. Supermarket Sweep is the occasional 90's song that probably shouldn't be on the station but people like it anyway.
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Buzzr has tried Louie Anderson's version on weekdays a couple times and Karn's was in that Friday night block with Temptation and Celebrity Name Game for a while.
I sit corrected. Somehow this escaped me. Thanks.
They also posted a selection of O'Hurley episodes to Amazon Prime but for some reason have never shown them on air.
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I know GSN aired a Louie episode a few years ago, along with the Karn run, but I'm surprised the first decade of Feud hasn't aired on Buzzr, even in a weekend capacity or one-off. If they're going with recent properties (recent meaning since 2000), why not go with one that at least scored decent ratings?
I'm not sure I understand. Which "first decade" of Feud do you mean?
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Bzzz only did a year in first run as well although reruns kept going for a few years in late night, and clearly didn't have nostalgia beyond a short burst, while Celebrity Name Game has zero nostalgia factor and wasn't ever THAT great of a performer in many cities - honestly, outside of about a dozen stalwarts first run syndication has been a dying market for years
Also: Because Fremantle owns the channel, the base of content they have to work from without having a format shift is going to pretty heavily restrict them to shows from Pre-1995 in general anyway. The pool of stuff post-Goodson is honestly quite shallow. (Although honestly I'm kind of hoping to see the 2002 Beat the Clock revival turn up at some point and honestly? I think Match Game '98 is worth a revisit)
I would like to see the 2000-2002 To Tell the Truth again, but IMHO the 1998 Match Game and 2001 Card Sharks were good examples of how not to reboot a property, and probably wouldn't be worth more than a once-in-a-blue-moon spot.
I know GSN aired a Louie episode a few years ago, along with the Karn run, but I'm surprised the first decade of Feud hasn't aired on Buzzr, even in a weekend capacity or one-off. If they're going with recent properties (recent meaning since 2000), why not go with one that at least scored decent ratings?
Unless they don't wanna confuse the viewers who might wonder why Al from Home Improvement is hosting Feud.
I'll take MG'90 on Buzzr over MG'98 any day of the week.
I also hear O'Hurley Feud is airing on UP/Faith And Family channel (via The Roku Channel).
/And then, over one fateful weekend in September 2010, Steve Harvey replaced John O'Hurley and Family-Friendly Feud turned info Phallic-Friendly Feud.
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Bzzz only did a year in first run as well although reruns kept going for a few years in late night, and clearly didn't have nostalgia beyond a short burst, while Celebrity Name Game has zero nostalgia factor and wasn't ever THAT great of a performer in many cities - honestly, outside of about a dozen stalwarts first run syndication has been a dying market for years
Also: Because Fremantle owns the channel, the base of content they have to work from without having a format shift is going to pretty heavily restrict them to shows from Pre-1995 in general anyway. The pool of stuff post-Goodson is honestly quite shallow. (Although honestly I'm kind of hoping to see the 2002 Beat the Clock revival turn up at some point and honestly? I think Match Game '98 is worth a revisit)
Annie Wood's very nice and she did some promos for Bzzz, but I can't imagine any of the 1990s dating shows ever getting significant viewership 25 or more years later--including Studs and Singled Out, which were more popular.
I would like to see the 2000-2002 To Tell the Truth again, but IMHO the 1998 Match Game and 2001 Card Sharks were good examples of how not to reboot a property, and probably wouldn't be worth more than a once-in-a-blue-moon spot.
I know GSN aired a Louie episode a few years ago, along with the Karn run, but I'm surprised the first decade of Feud hasn't aired on Buzzr, even in a weekend capacity or one-off. If they're going with recent properties (recent meaning since 2000), why not go with one that at least scored decent ratings?
Unless they don't wanna confuse the viewers who might wonder why Al from Home Improvement is hosting Feud.
Buzzr has tried Louie Anderson's version on weekdays a couple times and Karn's was in that Friday night block with Temptation and Celebrity Name Game for a while.
Shoot, they should put DAWSON AND COMBS at a time beyond the wee hours they put it on these days.
I'd like to finally see Match Game '90 somewhere on the schedule as well.
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I know GSN aired a Louie episode a few years ago, along with the Karn run, but I'm surprised the first decade of Feud hasn't aired on Buzzr, even in a weekend capacity or one-off. If they're going with recent properties (recent meaning since 2000), why not go with one that at least scored decent ratings?
I'm not sure I understand. Which "first decade" of Feud do you mean?
Current run, 1999-2009.
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IMHO the 1998 Match Game and 2001 Card Sharks were good examples of how not to reboot a property, and probably wouldn't be worth more than a once-in-a-blue-moon spot.
Just before I moved a couple of months ago, one of the last tapes I digitized before the move was literally nothing but Bergeron HS (still a gem) and MG 98
And honestly I was surprised by how overall charmed I was by the show. The theme's an outright bop, Michael Burger was fantastic, and while dropping a celebrity and keeping the bonus prize at five grand feels weird and cheap, I didn't hate the "all stars play every round" concept. And for my money the show's two sets are the two best the franchise has had.
The jokes tend to skew a bit too topical, but honestly calling anything about a show *dated* when in comparison to 70s Match Game is a riot, and I didn't even find Judy Tenuda *that* bad.
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Schedules for May 4 to 11 are out, and there are a few moves and switches...
Now You See It 74 is now on Sunday nights from 10 to 11pm (with repeat from 1 to 2am Sunday/Monday),
YAY!!!!!
with Body Language 85 moving into NYSI's current slot of 4 to 5am Saturday/Sunday.
BOOOO!!!!!
Fully agree.
Though I wonder, are we to take the upgrade of Narz on the schedule as a good sign for 70s Concentration?
I know GSN aired a Louie episode a few years ago, along with the Karn run, but I'm surprised the first decade of Feud hasn't aired on Buzzr, even in a weekend capacity or one-off. If they're going with recent properties (recent meaning since 2000), why not go with one that at least scored decent ratings?
Unless they don't wanna confuse the viewers who might wonder why Al from Home Improvement is hosting Feud.
Even before this conversation, I’ve wondered... if they feel they must include a 21st Century show on the schedule, why not Karn or O’Hurley Feud? While O’Hurley’s probably has more goodwill with the classics fans overall, either version should be recognizable to casual viewers (more so, I’d think, than CNG or Temptation), yet still old enough it shouldn’t cause any friction with stations airing the current version.
I've come to a theory that Buzzr works best as the "oldies" station and stuff like Temptation and CNG don't fit the format. Supermarket Sweep is the occasional 90's song that probably shouldn't be on the station but people like it anyway.
As a former radio guy, I dig this analogy. :D
Shoot, they should put DAWSON AND COMBS at a time beyond the wee hours they put it on these days.
Yeah, what exactly has happened with Dawson & Combs? I thought Dawson Feud was a BUZZR stalwart in the early days, and Combs was a reliable midcarder. (Working in some wrestling talk for you, JMFabiano. ;)) Was it a ratings thing? I’m surprised that a couple of their presumably most recognizable classics would be buried the way they’ve been.
(And oddly, Combs Feud still has a pretty heavy presence on their social media.)
Just before I moved a couple of months ago, one of the last tapes I digitized before the move was literally nothing but Bergeron HS (still a gem) and MG 98
And honestly I was surprised by how overall charmed I was by the show. The theme's an outright bop, Michael Burger was fantastic, and while dropping a celebrity and keeping the bonus prize at five grand feels weird and cheap, I didn't hate the "all stars play every round" concept. And for my money the show's two sets are the two best the franchise has had.
The jokes tend to skew a bit too topical, but honestly calling anything about a show *dated* when in comparison to 70s Match Game is a riot, and I didn't even find Judy Tenuda *that* bad.
I’m usually willing to give any game show a chance and at least watch a full episode before passing judgment. I started an episode of MG ‘98 & gave up on it. It just wasn’t connecting for me, and I thought Judy was too much.
But that’s just me. To each their own.
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Though I wonder, are we to take the upgrade of Narz on the schedule as a good sign for 70s Concentration?
That's how I'm taking it. Part of me is almost looking for NYSI to get another five-a-week slot before 2020 is out.
Even before this conversation, I’ve wondered... if they feel they must include a 21st Century show on the schedule, why not Karn or O’Hurley Feud?
I'd be more on-board for O'Hurley TTTT myself, but his run of Feud wouldn't be bad either.
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Though I wonder, are we to take the upgrade of Narz on the schedule as a good sign for 70s Concentration?
That's how I'm taking it. Part of me is almost looking for NYSI to get another five-a-week slot before 2020 is out.
If so, wonder if his BTC could be possible for the future as well?
Yeah, what exactly has happened with Dawson & Combs? I thought Dawson Feud was a BUZZR stalwart in the early days, and Combs was a reliable midcarder. (Working in some wrestling talk for you, JMFabiano. ;)) Was it a ratings thing? I’m surprised that a couple of their presumably most recognizable classics would be buried the way they’ve been.
(And oddly, Combs Feud still has a pretty heavy presence on their social media.)
Now this is by no means THE answer. That I know of. But I heard speculation about especially the Dawson eps. being "cancel cultured"/#MeToo'ed by Buzzr...you know, because of the kissing women and all.
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You are really going to need to cite a source on that one.
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IMHO the 1998 Match Game and 2001 Card Sharks were good examples of how not to reboot a property, and probably wouldn't be worth more than a once-in-a-blue-moon spot.
Just before I moved a couple of months ago, one of the last tapes I digitized before the move was literally nothing but Bergeron HS (still a gem) and MG 98
And honestly I was surprised by how overall charmed I was by the show. The theme's an outright bop, Michael Burger was fantastic, and while dropping a celebrity and keeping the bonus prize at five grand feels weird and cheap, I didn't hate the "all stars play every round" concept. And for my money the show's two sets are the two best the franchise has had.
The jokes tend to skew a bit too topical, but honestly calling anything about a show *dated* when in comparison to 70s Match Game is a riot, and I didn't even find Judy Tenuda *that* bad.
I have to disagree with the last paragraph. Judy Tenuta and her accordion was far worse than fingernails on a blackboard. Then there were answers given by celebs and contestants not suitable for airing and had to be bleeped. This occurred more often than it should have.
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I'd be more on-board for O'Hurley TTTT myself, but his run of Feud wouldn't be bad either.
Seconded. If this comes to be, I show they show the TTTT ep with Kitty Carlisle. The show itself was okay, but there were times when Paula Poundstone got on my nerves.
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MG 98 was okay. It's not going in my upper tier of MG revivals, but it was watchable. Like Chelsea said, the Clinton jokes were no different than the Nixon jokes in the 70s, although I think the Clinton jokes were a lot more common. I didn't mind the punny categories versus A and B, but the dirty humor was take it or leave it for me. By 1998, with all the trash talk shows in daytime and South Park at night, there just wasn't much of an envelope left to push on TV. Like Bill said, there were a lot of censored answers on this version that kinda took away the fun, even if you could easily put 2+2 together about what was on the card.
IMO, what hurt more was the panel had very little chemistry, and Michael Burger had to do a lot of tap dancing to pad the show. That's not to say he was a bad host, but that show was very lean for a game that plays off of spontaneity and witty banter. I also seem to remember the judges being veeeeeeery lenient on what did and didn't match.
The $5,000 always felt cheap to me, for this to be syndicated and not on basic cable.
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You are really going to need to cite a source on that one.
About why no Feud on Buzzr? Like I said it was just speculation from Facebook users, with no substance that I know of. Though it's crazy enough to actually be possible these days, do take it with a grain of salt.
(It's probably ratings. Though I couldn't see any version of FF be THAT unpopular ...but that's just me)
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Like I said it was just speculation from Facebook users, with no substance that I know of.
No, you most definitely did not say that. What you said was "I heard" with absolutely no qualification as to the authority of the source. And you added the word "speculation" after the fact.
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I'd be more on-board for O'Hurley TTTT myself, but his run of Feud wouldn't be bad either.
I thought of O’Hurley TTTT too, but Feud would probably be the bigger draw for casual viewers, IMHO. I agree that TTTT would probably be a step up from Temptation and CNG as a draw, though.
About why no Feud on Buzzr? Like I said it was just speculation from Facebook users, with no substance that I know of. Though it's crazy enough to actually be possible these days, do take it with a grain of salt.
(It's probably ratings. Though I couldn't see any version of FF be THAT unpopular ...but that's just me)
I don’t at all doubt you that the “cancel culture” idea was floated, but I do question the theory itself. To me, some of Rayburn’s antics on MG 7x are at times more questionable than Dawson’s seemingly consensual kissing—which he did plenty of on both MG and Feud—and both Rayburn & MG are still in good standing on the network. Plus, that shouldn’t have any bearing on Combs’ version.
(And BUZZR has pretty strongly implied that they want to run Barker-era TPIR if they can ever make it happen—which of course has glaring #MeToo issues that would put Richard & Gene both to shame.)
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(And BUZZR has pretty strongly implied that they want to run Barker-era TPIR if they can ever make it happen—which of course has glaring #MeToo issues that would put Richard & Gene both to shame.)
Honestly, I think Buzzr should go a different route and try to get the James, Kennedy, and Davidson shows. They've already aired Cullen episodes, so it's not like getting ahold of non-Barker/Carey Price is impossible.
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MG 98 was okay. It's not going in my upper tier of MG revivals, but it was watchable. Like Chelsea said, the Clinton jokes were no different than the Nixon jokes in the 70s, although I think the Clinton jokes were a lot more common. I didn't mind the punny categories versus A and B, but the dirty humor was take it or leave it for me. By 1998, with all the trash talk shows in daytime and South Park at night, there just wasn't much of an envelope left to push on TV. Like Bill said, there were a lot of censored answers on this version that kinda took away the fun, even if you could easily put 2+2 together about what was on the card.
I remember liking this show more than I probably should have, but I would have been 13 years old in 1998, so basically everything in this paragraph would have been a huge plus to me.
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The show itself was okay, but there were times when Paula Poundstone got on my nerves.
There were times she didn't? Goodness, you have a high threshold of pain. 8)