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Title: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: Bob Zager on September 20, 2019, 10:59:04 AM
We've seen a lot of new, first-tried formats, as well as the hit revivals on ABC the last four seasons.  What "classic," would you like to see return?

Do you think "Split Second," could work in prime-time?  I'd heard Monty Hall wanted to try it, even if in weekly syndication in the '70s, but one problem was Tom Kennedy's commitment with NTT.

How about What's My Line?  There has been all kinds of talk about a revival in the past.
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Post by: Neumms on September 20, 2019, 11:37:39 AM
Split Second requires too much intellect for prime time. I'd love to see it on GSN, though. They did The Chase, so not everything they try is America Says.

I'd love to see What's My Line, especially with the $50 grand prize, although it's entirely dependent on a great regular panel and Mystery Guests recognizable enough to require the blindfolds.

This was brought up on a different thread, but Hollywood Squares is a gimme. Weekly prime-time should attract good stars, and an hour would allow a reasonable number of games. Craig Ferguson in the center square? Tom Bergeron returning as your host?




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Post by: BillCullen1 on September 20, 2019, 12:04:08 PM
I'd love to see What's My Line, especially with the $50 grand prize, although it's entirely dependent on a great regular panel and Mystery Guests recognizable enough to require the blindfolds.

This was brought up on a different thread, but Hollywood Squares is a gimme. Weekly prime-time should attract good stars, and an hour would allow a reasonable number of games. Craig Ferguson in the center square? Tom Bergeron returning as your host?

If TTTT can work in prime time, they can give WML a try. The prize would have to go up from $50. I agree that the MGs should  be "blindfold worthy" so no reality stars as MGs, though we may get a couple as panelists. Maybe they can do "Who's Who" with audience members.

As for Squares, Bergeron is busy with DWTS and has said he will not host another game show. I do think he would've been good for TPIR. I think Craig Ferguson would work as a HS host. Maybe Mark Walberg or give Todd Newton a shot as a network host.

Other prime time possibilities - High Rollers or Tic Tac Dough, but not for a million.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 20, 2019, 12:31:33 PM
You know what I'd love to see them do?  Tattletales.  Feud and Pyramid and Match Game have now proven that celebrities will play these games, and it's not necessary that both partners be famous to do this one.
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Post by: clemon79 on September 20, 2019, 01:03:16 PM
You know what I'd love to see them do?  Tattletales.  Feud and Pyramid and Match Game have now proven that celebrities will play these games, and it's not necessary that both partners be famous to do this one.

This would have been a far better vehicle for Elizabeth Banks than Press Your Luck was.
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Post by: BillCullen1 on September 20, 2019, 02:20:35 PM
Here's one I thought of. "Name That Tune" was popular. The time might be right for a revival of that.
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 20, 2019, 02:46:46 PM
Here's one I thought of. "Name That Tune" was popular. The time might be right for a revival of that.
Somebody (Phil Gurin?) did a pilot for CBS in the last couple of years. The theme song was posted in the A/V section a while ago.

I’d love to see a new WML? or Password. Neither have to be played for high stakes, but I think a classic-style Password with an Alphabetics bonus round for $25K would be enjoyable.
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Post by: Clay Zambo on September 20, 2019, 05:29:19 PM
You know what I'd love to see them do?  Tattletales.  Feud and Pyramid and Match Game have now proven that celebrities will play these games, and it's not necessary that both partners be famous to do this one.

Most excellently true. But I would pray that the questions not be smutted up.
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Post by: calliaume on September 20, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
You know what I'd love to see them do?  Tattletales.  Feud and Pyramid and Match Game have now proven that celebrities will play these games, and it's not necessary that both partners be famous to do this one.

Most excellently true. But I would pray that the questions not be smutted up.
So would I - if they are, you're going to get D-list celebrities, because those above won't bother.

Password was a good suggestion.  Sale of the Century might work for the suspense portion (take the prize at that level or play on?).  I guess since Concentration's owned by NBC, that's out.
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Post by: The Ol' Guy on September 21, 2019, 12:39:56 AM
All right - if you're going to do a full hour, what say you about a modified version of Jackpot? 10 players, fast pace. $2000 pot to start. Riddle values between $500 and $1000. Correct answers by the King/Queen of the Hill put the value of the riddle in the jackpot. If missed, the player who read the (non-Jackpot) riddle gets the value of that riddle in cash. If a Jackpot riddle is missed, a new round starts, another $2000 added to the Jackpot, player who read the Jackpot riddle is new King/Queen of the Hill. At the end of regular playing time, the player with the most cash gets a shot at a Super Jackpot riddle for a major prize and appropriate cash amount ($50,000). Might be fun to hear questions in the form of clever riddles again, adding a humor element.  The format will need a little tinkering, but the spirit of the game should stay the same.
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Post by: tpirfan28 on September 21, 2019, 01:00:02 PM
Classic format Millionaire.  Play it for 2.5m if you need to because spending other people's money is fun.

You know what I'd love to see them do?  Tattletales.  Feud and Pyramid and Match Game have now proven that celebrities will play these games, and it's not necessary that both partners be famous to do this one.

This would have been a far better vehicle for Elizabeth Banks than Press Your Luck was.
Dual likes for both of you.  I'm surprised that someone didn't try reviving it earlier in the more "TMZ" era of celebrity gossip.
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Post by: Otm Shank on September 21, 2019, 03:05:27 PM
I was really hoping that Name That Tune was coming back, especially considering that Beat Shazaam has been doing fairly decent. I don't think it's completely ruled out yet, though CBS did not pick up the last pilot.

I think we are ready for a straight-up, non-Plus, non-Super, non-Million-Dollar Password. Jimmy Fallon has shown that the classic game is still good television, and, as a result, there is a good modern demo reel to illustrate that.
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Post by: Neumms on September 21, 2019, 03:17:35 PM
If TTTT can work in prime time, they can give WML a try. The prize would have to go up from $50.

They don't need prize money. The 50 bucks would be charming.
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Post by: Jeremy Nelson on September 21, 2019, 03:26:07 PM
You know what I'd love to see them do?  Tattletales.  Feud and Pyramid and Match Game have now proven that celebrities will play these games, and it's not necessary that both partners be famous to do this one.

This would have been a far better vehicle for Elizabeth Banks than Press Your Luck was.
Points for both. I thought Andy Cohen for TattleTales. Love Connection really didn't showcase his talents.
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Post by: Neumms on September 21, 2019, 03:27:34 PM
Gosh, imagine what a new Tattletales could do with 21st Century video technology! I'd watch just for that.

How might the chance of a Password return be affected by Jimmy Fallon playing it? It might improve the odds, especially if Fallon's people were involved, but then it'd probably have happened by now. Should they go retro? Would it be jarring to Tonight Show viewers to see it played for decent stakes?
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 21, 2019, 04:25:22 PM
How might the chance of a Password return be affected by Jimmy Fallon playing it? It might improve the odds, especially if Fallon's people were involved, but then it'd probably have happened by now. Should they go retro? Would it be jarring to Tonight Show viewers to see it played for decent stakes?
I'm not following. I don't think viewers are going to examine a new, higher stakes Password that deeply, just like they didn't with Pyramid, which Fallon also plays on his show occasionally.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: JakeT on September 21, 2019, 08:03:28 PM
Gosh, imagine what a new Tattletales could do with 21st Century video technology! I'd watch just for that.

What exactly would "21st Century video technology" do to improve "Tattletales"?  They're just celebrities off-stage with video feeds being sent on-stage...the only real difference I can imagine would be a flat screen vs. a CRT but that would have no bearing whatsover on the game...

JakeT
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Post by: Blanquepage on September 21, 2019, 08:55:30 PM
Going to go off the board and propose Beat the Odds. Such an underappreciated word game the whole family could play along with; plus it has a great "shout the answer at the TV" play-along factor missing from many of the current revivals. My second dream revival would be Video Village. I could only imagine how grand a modern-day revival of that one would be.


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Post by: jjman920 on September 21, 2019, 10:50:36 PM
Other prime time possibilities - High Rollers or Tic Tac Dough, but not for a million.
Seconding High Rollers. Given how unpredictable the bonus round is, $100,000 would be a fine prize. It's about time people are reintroduced to this fine game.

There's not much meat to Treasure Hunt besides the bits/prizes to reveal the box result. Though if someone wanted to have fun with the bits and expand the contestant pool to include men as well, I bet some fun could be had. Again, hide a check for $100K or go for the gusto and $1M.
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Post by: SuperMatch93 on September 22, 2019, 08:34:30 AM
I would LOVE to see a new version of Sale, though it seems to me it'd be a better fit for syndication than a weekly prime time slot.

What's My Line or I've Got a Secret would be fun to see again; I would dump the small cash prizes and just give each contestant a prize for stumping the panel. Password would be good and could even use a recreation of the 60s set, especially given that those who watch Fallon may recognize it.

I wouldn't be surprised if ABC takes another crack at Millionaire with the original format, and I hope they keep it at only once or twice a week.
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Post by: tvwxman on September 22, 2019, 09:43:48 AM
Thought about this q recently. My offers.

YES Tattletales. Perfect for the celeb-hungry audience
Hollywood Squares (why hasn't CBS picked this up to promote their new stars???)
Password
Sale of the Century (do a weekly. get to know the contesti. offer a million at the end but buyouts that include cars, houses, whatever.)

and off the board: The Better Sex. With format changes, i'm kinda surprised this hasn't been redone...better.

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Post by: TimK2003 on September 22, 2019, 11:26:32 AM
Though there was word not too long ago that it was being considered for a rebirth, I'm not sure if "Celebrity Sweepstakes" was/could be considered for a prime-time spot.

Though it has all the desirable traits for a prime-time show (celebs, audience participation, high stakes potentials,...) my biggest concern is that they would take the "horse race" speed that we know and love from the original and turn it into a molasses race -- doing only doing a minimal amount of questions within the 30- or 60-minute span and wasting more time with celebrity interactions, like Hip Hop Squares.
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Post by: mmb5 on September 22, 2019, 02:10:03 PM
Not much of a revival per se, because the first thing you would have to do would be to change the title, but 70s Double Dare.  It was somewhat miscast as a daytime show, but definitely has more of a nighttime vibe, and would not lose much if it was slowed down a bit.  Spoilers can be celebrities.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: WhammyPower on September 22, 2019, 02:49:44 PM
I just thought of this off-the-wall idea: A revival of the UK's The Interceptor, with two modern-day changes: the Interceptor pilots drones instead of a helicopter ("taunting" could still be accomplished if the drones had two-way communication), and the contestants would also be shuttled to their starting positions via the ground instead of the air.

And if you've never seen this show, here's probably the most infamous episode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqrqlTwdYj0
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Post by: rebelwrest on September 22, 2019, 04:16:33 PM
Going to go off the board and propose Beat the Odds. Such an underappreciated word game the whole family could play along with; plus it has a great "shout the answer at the TV" play-along factor missing from many of the current revivals.

I've always considered "Beat the Odds" the perfect local game show.  Cost next to nothing to produce, and a challenge to play.  I've been working on a structure of the show where every game you win puts your points into an account.  After you are defeated, you get to shop for prizes using your points.  If your account reaches a certain level, you get to buy the grand prize.  Is "Beat the Odds" is in the public domain?
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Post by: byrd62 on September 22, 2019, 09:52:36 PM
Didn't production credit for the 1975 pilot of Beat the Odds with Chuck Henry, taped at ABC Prospect Studios, belong to Bill Carruthers, who ended up creating Second Chance/Press Your Luck?
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Post by: Chief-O on September 22, 2019, 11:40:30 PM
Didn't production credit for the 1975 pilot of Beat the Odds with Chuck Henry, taped at ABC Prospect Studios, belong to Bill Carruthers, who ended up creating Second Chance/Press Your Luck?

It did.
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Post by: SamJ93 on September 23, 2019, 09:31:01 AM
Not much of a revival per se, because the first thing you would have to do would be to change the title, but 70s Double Dare.  It was somewhat miscast as a daytime show, but definitely has more of a nighttime vibe, and would not lose much if it was slowed down a bit.  Spoilers can be celebrities.

I'd definitely be behind this if there was some way to incorporate the Spoilers into the main game somehow. It always seemed like they just came out of left field for the bonus round and was very jarring.

I half-jokingly mentioned it in the "go home with nothing" thread...but in all seriousness, Debt would be perfect for a primetime slot, given how many millenials struggle with student loans.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 23, 2019, 11:34:13 AM
You know what I'd love to see them do?  Tattletales.  Feud and Pyramid and Match Game have now proven that celebrities will play these games, and it's not necessary that both partners be famous to do this one.

This would have been a far better vehicle for Elizabeth Banks than Press Your Luck was.
Points for both. I thought Andy Cohen for TattleTales. Love Connection really didn't showcase his talents.

Casting win, and I'm not even that big a fan of Cohen.  You're right, he would be perfect.
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Post by: Neumms on September 23, 2019, 12:28:12 PM
What exactly would "21st Century video technology" do to improve "Tattletales"?  They're just celebrities off-stage with video feeds being sent on-stage...the only real difference I can imagine would be a flat screen vs. a CRT but that would have no bearing whatsover on the game...

Yeah! Flat screens for the spouses! A light up floor! Graphics on the half-walls in front of the audience sections! Smaller headphones!

No, it wouldn't have any bearing on the game, but as a lad watching the original run, I never much cared for it unless Bob Newhart or Totie Fields was on, so I was more interested in the set. 
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Post by: Neumms on September 23, 2019, 12:44:35 PM
I'm not following. I don't think viewers are going to examine a new, higher stakes Password that deeply, just like they didn't with Pyramid, which Fallon also plays on his show occasionally.

Maybe not, and I didn't know Fallon played Pyramid. It's a moot point if they went '60s retro, which I'd pick and would differentiate it from ABC's reboots. I'd play the original Lightning Round, but add the Magic Toaster. It was fun to play along with and celebrities' frustrations created great moments.
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 23, 2019, 01:53:34 PM
Maybe not, and I didn't know Fallon played Pyramid. It's a moot point if they went '60s retro, which I'd pick and would differentiate it from ABC's reboots. I'd play the original Lightning Round, but add the Magic Toaster. It was fun to play along with and celebrities' frustrations created great moments.
Fair, but it goes in line with you wanting a modernized Tattletales set. What does it really add to the show other than you finding it aesthetically pleasing?
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Post by: Neumms on September 23, 2019, 11:23:13 PM
Fair, but it goes in line with you wanting a modernized Tattletales set. What does it really add to the show other than you finding it aesthetically pleasing?

Isn’t that enough?
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Post by: JakeT on September 23, 2019, 11:47:14 PM
Fair, but it goes in line with you wanting a modernized Tattletales set. What does it really add to the show other than you finding it aesthetically pleasing?

Isn’t that enough?

Actually, no...more people than not found the "update" set of "Card Sharks" to be unappealing and led to the slowdown of gameplay...

And let's not forget how many people have complained that the added digital screens on "The Price Is Right" have served mostly as a distraction and have done nothing to improve the show itself...

When you consider that "Tattletales" concentrates much on tight one-shots of each celeb during play, lots of big screens and lighted floors serve no purpose and would mostly be a waste for the home viewer...

JakeT
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Post by: Neumms on September 24, 2019, 10:11:28 AM
...more people than not found the "update" set of "Card Sharks" to be unappealing and led to the slowdown of gameplay...

And let's not forget how many people have complained that the added digital screens on "The Price Is Right" have served mostly as a distraction and have done nothing to improve the show itself...

I share that opinion on Card Sharks. The problem isn't that they redesigned everything, but that in doing so they changed a King to a 7.

On TPIR, new games originating with digital screens aren't the problem. With Rat Race, the LED works great. With Double Cross, the touch-screen is integral. It's retrofitting old games. The only reason to keep the Bonus Game around rather than replace it entirely with Shell Game was that it was an antique. Also, as we've discussed before, they'd never bother to rig Bonus Game, but it looks like they easily could.

Back to Tattletales, glitz wouldn't be wasted on a show about Hollywood stars. And even if it pleases no one but me, I say do it.
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Post by: jjman920 on September 24, 2019, 02:08:25 PM
Had another thought. Would it be worth it to give Gameshow Marathon another try? Perhaps the climate wasn't right for the show to stick as a yearly summer series back in 2006, but with the ABC bonanza sticking, maybe this has a chance now.

Don't know if I'd give it to Ricki, but I'm not sure who I'd choose in terms of a "name" to host. If name recognition is set aside, I'd choose Mark Walberg or Todd Newton because I believe they could easily adapt to many game show formats.

Don't know if I'd keep the tournament format either. An all-star thing is fine, but just do a "game of the week" self-contained thing. Maybe have a set group of celebs that play each week.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 24, 2019, 02:22:34 PM
Had another thought. Would it be worth it to give Gameshow Marathon another try? Perhaps the climate wasn't right for the show to stick as a yearly summer series back in 2006, but with the ABC bonanza sticking, maybe this has a chance now.

I wonder if a Gameshow Marathon would work with a set of second-tier game shows rather than the famous ones they played last time.  After all, most of those shows have flashy prime-time reboots now, and what would be the point of a separate "Marathon" series that just played those same games every week?  Fremantle owns the rights to so many properties that probably wouldn't deserve a prime-time series of their own, but might be fun to see as a series of one-offs.  Watch a bunch of celebrities play Now You See It one week, and Chain Reaction the next.
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 24, 2019, 02:41:34 PM
Back to Tattletales, glitz wouldn't be wasted on a show about Hollywood stars. And even if it pleases no one but me, I say do it.
I’d point to TTTT as a nice example of how the set could look, albeit smaller. That’s a very snazzy, contemporary set IMO.

I like the idea of a new GS Marathon with different shows, and minus all the celebs. Crazy how 13 years later, all seven of those shows are currently in production...at least I think Beat the Clock is still airing on cable.
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Post by: SuperMatch93 on September 26, 2019, 08:52:37 PM
You know what would be a fun revival, now that I think about it? The $64,000 Question.

From what I understand, there was a pilot not long after Millionaire debuted in which the top prize was $1,028,000. Feel free to Lesko me on this, but if I was producing it, I'd call it The $6,000,000 Question with $1,000,000 as the final step before the top prize. It'd be interesting to see whether anyone would gamble a million based on their specialist subject.
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Post by: TLEberle on September 26, 2019, 08:56:23 PM
No person would make that bet unless they had been given the answers before.
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 26, 2019, 10:47:31 PM
You know what would be a fun revival, now that I think about it? The $64,000 Question.

From what I understand, there was a pilot not long after Millionaire debuted in which the top prize was $1,028,000. Feel free to Lesko me on this, but if I was producing it, I'd call it The $6,000,000 Question with $1,000,000 as the final step before the top prize. It'd be interesting to see whether anyone would gamble a million based on their specialist subject.
Going back to my point of how the million dollar wave finally seems to be slowing down, why not just make it The $128/256K Question? The ABC games prove that people will watch the classics in prime time, even without a seven-figure payday. Although, if you wanna adjust $64,000 for inflation from 1955, it would be about 600K, so maybe a $640,000 jackpot isn't necessarily out of the question.

But, I think $256K max is more than enough.
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Post by: JakeT on September 26, 2019, 11:24:36 PM
But wouldn't your average viewer with no knowledge of game show history just see a version of "The $XXX,000 Question" as little more than a derivative rehashing of WWTBAM?

I believe the era of "answer a question-climb a ladder" has now passed...at least for now...if there is any hope of WWTBAM returning in the classic format to primetime, that kind of show needs a cooling-off period...

JakeT
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Post by: SuperMatch93 on September 26, 2019, 11:26:53 PM
Going back to my point of how the million dollar wave finally seems to be slowing down, why not just make it The $128/256K Question? The ABC games prove that people will watch the classics in prime time, even without a seven-figure payday. Although, if you wanna adjust $64,000 for inflation from 1955, it would be about 600K, so maybe a $640,000 jackpot isn't necessarily out of the question.

But, I think $256K max is more than enough.

That's fair. Even $128k in 1976 dollars is about $570k today, so I suppose there's no reason it needs to offer an over-the-top jackpot.

/I wonder if anyone will ever try to do Twenty-One again
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 26, 2019, 11:47:26 PM
But wouldn't your average viewer with no knowledge of game show history just see a version of "The $XXX,000 Question" as little more than a derivative rehashing of WWTBAM?

I believe the era of "answer a question-climb a ladder" has now passed...at least for now...if there is any hope of WWTBAM returning in the classic format to primetime, that kind of show needs a cooling-off period...
Both valid points. I've been over the money tree format for at least a decade.
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Post by: geno57 on September 27, 2019, 03:42:49 AM
Concentration, for sure … and, as either a high school or college game (as was so popular in England for so long), Blockbusters.
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Post by: Fedya on September 27, 2019, 09:05:22 AM
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Both valid points. I've been over the money tree format for at least a decade.

And lifelines.  At least Million Dollar Mind Game had the decency to have a money wheel instead of a money tree....
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Post by: chrisholland03 on September 27, 2019, 09:42:38 AM
I'm voting for Blockbusters, but it would require three things:

1) The right host - someone who can play traffic cop appropriately and keep things moving, but also mine for gold - and know when to stop mining
2) The right pacing - dramatic pause hurts the game
3) A strategy to keep the episodes self-contained.  I would almost go to a Davidson Hollywood Squares approach here, where each game is worth $X and increases each game; interrupted game is $Y per hex.  High $ goes to Gold Run for $Z

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Post by: Neumms on September 27, 2019, 06:39:24 PM
I wonder if a Gameshow Marathon would work with a set of second-tier game shows rather than the famous ones they played last time.

Not sure Chain Reaction would slay an audience, but maybe the novelty of over-the-top 70s’ shows? Money Maze. High Rollers with its giant dice. Big Showdown with its frantic rolling of giant dice. Magnificent Marble Machine. (Granted, the prop wouldn’t be cheap, but it would only have to hold together for an hour.) Pitfall. Rhyme and Reason. Maybe this is a place for Celebrity Sweepstakes. Maybe even Whew!

It involves different producers, of course, but the shows would be de facto pilots, so there’s inducement for them to say why not.
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Post by: Stackertosh on September 28, 2019, 06:57:16 PM
Who Wants to be a Millionaire- As long they follow the Uk format.
Weakest Link- This show is slowly creeping back on in other countries.
Greed


Syndicated or Cable
Lingo
Sale of the Century
Supermarket sweep
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Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 29, 2019, 01:44:59 AM
Syndicated or Cable
Lingo
Sale of the Century
Supermarket sweep
The thread asked for primetime shows.  And why should $ale be relegated to syndication or cable?
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Post by: PPatters on September 29, 2019, 01:52:24 AM
The thread asked for primetime shows.  And why should $ale be relegated to syndication or cable?

I think one reason is because Sale is so reliant on returning champions and I just don’t expect we’ll see weekly shows in primetime with returning champions any time soon.
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Post by: Joe Mello on September 29, 2019, 09:54:43 AM
I think one reason is because Sale is so reliant on returning champions
It certainly lasted into the 80's without them.
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 29, 2019, 12:30:17 PM
Syndicated or Cable
Lingo
Sale of the Century
Supermarket sweep
The thread asked for primetime shows.
I think we’re aware of that. No need to be pedantic...it’s not like it completely derailed the thread.

A prime time $ale could be interesting, maybe twice a week. Self-contained, but still with returning champs.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: SuperMatch93 on September 29, 2019, 02:03:48 PM
A prime time $ale could be interesting, maybe twice a week. Self-contained, but still with returning champs.

I could see that working; if it was on a network, maybe three nights a week alternating with a different show the other two nights or vice versa.

If you were doing the shopping format, maybe switch out the merchandise in the back every two weeks. For the cash jackpot, perhaps $100,000 plus $5,000 per show until it's won? I think that's how I set up the netgame version I did at BigJon's back in 2011.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: TLEberle on September 29, 2019, 02:41:15 PM
If you were doing the shopping format, maybe switch out the merchandise in the back every two weeks. For the cash jackpot, perhaps $100,000 plus $5,000 per show until it's won?
$100,000 is still a rather large chunk of buckazoids. Does it really need to have a crawling cash jackpot that isn't your money and also won't appreciably increase interest?

If this is the show that is going to bring back carryover players to primetime game shows (Millionaire, Twenty-one, Greed and even Deal or No Deal had carryovers) I would squidge back the number of wins to five and ramp up the prize levels--car for four, lot for five. I think the format is largely bullet proof and the audience would know where things stand because the host would say "Last time our champion passed on the South America trip, so a win tonight means she can take home the luxury automobile."

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I think that's how I set up the netgame version I did at BigJon's back in 2011.
Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: SuperMatch93 on September 30, 2019, 07:31:11 AM
$100,000 is still a rather large chunk of buckazoids. Does it really need to have a crawling cash jackpot that isn't your money and also won't appreciably increase interest?

I guess not; it could be a flat amount as long as it was more than the cumulative total of the prizes below it so they at least double their winnings. That way, you avoid situations where someone has to risk, say, $120,000 in prizes for an additional $100,000, which never really sat well with me.

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Sorry to hear that.

Eh, don't be. Only lasted two shows because my hard drive on my first laptop crashed around that time.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: JakeT on September 30, 2019, 08:00:05 PM
I think one reason is because Sale is so reliant on returning champions
It certainly lasted into the 80's without them.

Huh????

JakeT
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on October 01, 2019, 07:58:14 AM
Syndicated or Cable
Lingo
Sale of the Century
Supermarket sweep
The thread asked for primetime shows.
I think we’re aware of that. No need to be pedantic...it’s not like it completely derailed the thread.

I'm okay with it on these "Shows that should come back" threads, as they can easily turn into extensive wishlists for some posters.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: Loogaroo on October 01, 2019, 01:51:38 PM
Sale of the Century could absolutely work as a self-contained hour. I could see it start with four players, whittling down to two as the game progresses (because third place was generally left in the dust by the speed round anyway). No need for an escalating cash jackpot, but put a $100K cash prize after the car and then the lot win after that.

Jackpot! could also work as a self-contained hour. Add a zero to the traditional dollar amounts, and whoever's on the spot when the hour is up answers a Super Jackpot-esque riddle for $100K. The $100K would also be up for grabs on a target match, natch.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: Kevin Prather on October 01, 2019, 03:31:59 PM
Jackpot! could also work as a self-contained hour. Add a zero to the traditional dollar amounts, and whoever's on the spot when the hour is up answers a Super Jackpot-esque riddle for $100K. The $100K would also be up for grabs on a target match, natch.

Problem I have with that setup is similar to Millionaire Hot Seat. Someone who's just been sitting on their thumbs the last 55 minutes could just stroll right in to a six-figure payday.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: TLEberle on October 01, 2019, 04:13:48 PM
But that was true of Jackpot in the old days—just not on that scale.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: GiraffeBoy on October 01, 2019, 09:18:15 PM
Not much of a revival per se, because the first thing you would have to do would be to change the title, but 70s Double Dare.  It was somewhat miscast as a daytime show, but definitely has more of a nighttime vibe, and would not lose much if it was slowed down a bit.  Spoilers can be celebrities.
Or champions from other game shows.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: aaron sica on October 02, 2019, 06:37:31 AM
Or champions from other game shows.

That's a GREAT idea. The names you could get to fill those spots...
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: mrchips on October 02, 2019, 10:44:09 AM
Not much of a revival per se, because the first thing you would have to do would be to change the title, but 70s Double Dare.  It was somewhat miscast as a daytime show, but definitely has more of a nighttime vibe, and would not lose much if it was slowed down a bit.  Spoilers can be celebrities.
Or champions from other game shows.
With a four-player elimination tournament format the three runners-up could be the Spoilers. More face time for them and another chance to go home with something. But the three head-to-heads and the Spoiler game probably couldn’t fit into an hour.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: SuperMatch93 on October 02, 2019, 11:20:42 AM
Not much of a revival per se, because the first thing you would have to do would be to change the title, but 70s Double Dare.  It was somewhat miscast as a daytime show, but definitely has more of a nighttime vibe, and would not lose much if it was slowed down a bit.  Spoilers can be celebrities.

I could see this as a revival on GSN.

We had a discussion a while back on possible titles for a revival, and I think the consensus we arrived at was Dare to Win.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: Kevin Prather on October 02, 2019, 12:35:05 PM
Not much of a revival per se, because the first thing you would have to do would be to change the title, but 70s Double Dare.  It was somewhat miscast as a daytime show, but definitely has more of a nighttime vibe, and would not lose much if it was slowed down a bit.  Spoilers can be celebrities.

I could see this as a revival on GSN.

It's kind of being done. Best Ever Trivia Show. The format's different, but the idea of contestants trying to best a panel of experts/champions is there.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: Neumms on October 02, 2019, 01:41:11 PM
It could be a mix of experts, for that matter. On Double Dare’s pilot, the Spoilers were booed as if they’d tied fair maidens to railroad tracks. That made it a little extra fun. One of DD’s professors was a particularly sniveling dweeb that was amusingly dislikable just sitting there. It shouldn’t be like The Running Man or pro wrestling, but it could use more personality than that GSN show.

They should also hone the Spoilers game. Too often, some clues were so obvious, it was out of the contestant’s hands.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: BrandonFG on October 02, 2019, 01:51:28 PM
I’d argue the mix of clues set up the risk element, the Dare, if you will. But there were several occasions when the contestant blew a pass because an easier clue got past one, if not all three Spoilers.
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: johnnya2k3 on October 06, 2019, 10:02:50 PM
What about Fun House, this time with families of four?

Just like College Mad House, each member would have 30 seconds to grab as many cash (ranging from $1,000 to $5,000) and prize tags as they can, with the Power Prize tag being either a family vacation or a new car!
Title: Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
Post by: TLEberle on October 06, 2019, 11:11:47 PM
 :'(
What about Fun House, this time with families of four?

Just like College Mad House, each member would have 30 seconds to grab as many cash (ranging from $1,000 to $5,000) and prize tags as they can, with the Power Prize tag being either a family vacation or a new car!
Why? What's the point? Double Dare for Kids basically came and went in relatively the blink of an eye.

/also most of us know how Fun House works.