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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: jimlangefan on January 27, 2017, 11:57:50 AM
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Beginning February 6th, a big shake up in BUZZR's prime time line up will take place. The hour of LMAD and the B & W 2 hour block will be replaced by the "Prime Time Party." The "Prime Time Party" consists of six half hour shows and FINALLY Password Plus will officially join the network. The shows in the 3 hour block will be The All New Let's Make A Deal, Password Plus, $ale Of The Century, Tattletales, Card Sharks with Bob Eubanks, & Press Your Luck. The schedule is not out that far yet, so I don't know if it will air in that order. Also, it is not known what will happen to $ale on Sundays now that it will be airing daily. Here's the promo that just started airing this week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwhThfh7WxQ
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Didn't Password + air previously on the 4th of July marathon that Buzzr did in 2015?
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Here's the full weekday lineup starting 2/6:
6A/6:30 Super Password
7A/7:30 Buzzr Casino
8A To Tell the Truth
8:40A What's My Line
9:20A I've Got a Secret
10A/10:30/11A/11:30 Match Game
12P/12:30/1P/1:30 Family Feud (Dawson)
2P To Tell the Truth
2:40P What's My Line
3:20P I've Got a Secret
4P/4:30/5P/5:30 Match Game
6P/6:30 Family Feud (Combs)
7P/7:30 Family Feud (Dawson)
8P Password Plus
8:30 Let's Make a Deal
9P Sale of the Century
9:30 Tattletales
10P Card Sharks (Eubanks)
10:30 Press Your Luck
11P Password Plus
11:30 Let's Make a Deal
12A Sale of the Century
12:30 Tattletales
1A Card Sharks (Eubanks)
1:30 Press Your Luck
2A/2:30/3A/3:30 Match Game
4A/4:30 Family Feud (Combs)
5A/5:30 Family Feud (Dawson)
Also, Now You See It replaces Sale of the Century in the Sunday night lineup.
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Didn't Password + air previously on the 4th of July marathon that Buzzr did in 2015?
Yep. (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,27662.msg341050.html#msg341050)
Really hoping BUZZR takes off this year and finds itself in more markets, mine included.
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Intriguing. This means they'd almost have to have new-to-Buzzr episodes of Password Plus and Combs Feud, right? Even at only one episode per day, they haven't run enough of either of those shows during Buzzr's past specials to justify a five-days-a-week schedule otherwise.
(Hoping this also means new-to-Buzzr episodes of Now You See It.)
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Intriguing. This means they'd almost have to have new-to-Buzzr episodes of Password Plus and Combs Feud, right? Even at only one episode per day, they haven't run enough of either of those shows during Buzzr's past specials to justify a five-days-a-week schedule otherwise.
(Hoping this also means new-to-Buzzr episodes of Now You See It.)
Not sure where Combs Feud is starting (other than they're 1988 episodes.) Password Plus is starting with the premiere with Elizabeth Montgomery and Robert Foxworth.
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Intriguing. This means they'd almost have to have new-to-Buzzr episodes of Password Plus and Combs Feud, right? Even at only one episode per day, they haven't run enough of either of those shows during Buzzr's past specials to justify a five-days-a-week schedule otherwise.
(Hoping this also means new-to-Buzzr episodes of Now You See It.)
You would be correct Scott. They've only run a total of 5 episodes of Password Plus and about 10 tops of FF with Ray Combs. NYSI will definitely be new episodes as they have only run two of those. $ale has run enough that it could get by with reruns for the first 6 weeks, but hoping there will be more to follow after that. LMAD, Tattletales, Eubanks CS, & PYL has run plenty of episodes that at a 30 minute slot, the episodes they have previously ran will tide them over for months
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Also of note: the 4PM/2AM hours of Match Game are New-to-Buzzr episodes of MG75, and SOTC is refreshed starting with the 2/19/85 episode.
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Also of note: the 4PM/2AM hours of Match Game are New-to-Buzzr episodes of MG75, and SOTC is refreshed starting with the 2/19/85 episode.
Which is good because when we last left Jim and Summer, lot run #2 had just gotten underway.
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Didn't Password + air previously on the 4th of July marathon that Buzzr did in 2015?
Yep. (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,27662.msg341050.html#msg341050)
Really hoping BUZZR takes off this year and finds itself in more markets, mine included.
Me as well. I would love to see more of 'WML?" and 'IGAS" outside of the last two weeks of the year.
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Are the '85 Dawson Feuds currently running new to Buzzr also?
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Are the '85 Dawson Feuds currently running new to Buzzr also?
They are fairly recent to Buzzr. I think they started running those in the last few months.
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Good to see the lineup being juggled a bit, and some new episodes being added to the mix. I was starting to worry they'd just fall back on recycling what they already have, since things seemed to be getting a bit stale, and some of the promises in 2016's promos never came to pass.
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Good to see the lineup being juggled a bit, and some new episodes being added to the mix.
Seconded. While GSN is in love with Harvey Feud, Buzzr seems to be in love with Match Game and Dawson Feud. New episodes are definitely a welcome relief.
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Having been in the hospital for much of the last week (leg injury, recovering nicely), I can definitely say I prefer Buzzr to GSN at this point. The latter pretty much is down to Harvey Feud and a bunch of originals that don't interest me. I can imagine if Buzzr doesn't have a huge number of episodes available it could get pretty tiring to the hardcore audience (read: us), but we're not really who they're trying to reach.
Has anyone determined whether the Tattletales episodes are from the 1980s run? Otherwise, it looks like they're trying to push the '80s nostalgia buttons with the rest of the picks.
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Quick heads-up, looks like Buzzr is "previewing" Combs Feud & MG75 in the 8PM ET slot this week.
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Quick heads-up, looks like Buzzr is "previewing" Combs Feud & MG75 in the 8PM ET slot this week.
That's their "Buzzr Bowl" promotion tying into the Super Bowl. Feud is the Bengals vs 49ers week from 1989 and Match Game is a week with Alex Karras on the panel.
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I enjoyed the shift to Match Game 75, where they've found their groove as a silly party and no one's gotten tired of the format yet. I was especially amused at the fact that they played a whopping four questions over the course of the half hour (not even time for an Audience Match) and gave away a grand total of $0, as the game ended in a tie. If Mark Goodson saw this episode, I bet he would have thrown a fit.
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Who says he didn't. And didn't.
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Having been in the hospital for much of the last week (leg injury, recovering nicely), I can definitely say I prefer Buzzr to GSN at this point. The latter pretty much is down to Harvey Feud and a bunch of originals that don't interest me. I can imagine if Buzzr doesn't have a huge number of episodes available it could get pretty tiring to the hardcore audience (read: us), but we're not really who they're trying to reach.
Has anyone determined whether the Tattletales episodes are from the 1980s run? Otherwise, it looks like they're trying to push the '80s nostalgia buttons with the rest of the picks.
I don't have a buzzr station in my market, but you can date the Tattletales eps by the theme music.
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I don't have a buzzr station in my market, but you can date the Tattletales eps by the theme music.
And by the tote boards. They are brown in the '70s version and green in the '80s version.
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They haven't run any past the first few months of the series from 1974.
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I don't have a buzzr station in my market, but you can date the Tattletales eps by the theme music.
And by the tote boards. They are brown in the '70s version and green in the '80s version.
That's funny...I always considered them red in the '70s version!
Oh well...you say tomato, I say tomato (hmmm...that doesn't work so well in text does it?)
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Looking at BUZZR's schedule for next Tuesday February 7th, I don't know if it's a one off or a permanent thing, but an episode of Family Feud from 1977 will air at 7 PM EST. I hope it's permanent. Since BUZZR is airing different eras of Feud it would be nice to see some regularly from the first or second season.
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Looking at BUZZR's schedule for next Tuesday February 7th, I don't know if it's a one off or a permanent thing, but an episode of Family Feud from 1977 will air at 7 PM EST. I hope it's permanent. Since BUZZR is airing different eras of Feud it would be nice to see some regularly from the first or second season.
That was one of the random episodes that aired in a marathon.
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For those interested, Match Game '75 started from the first episode of 1975 (Thursday of that week) and Family Feud with Ray Combs started from the CBS premiere.
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Family Feud at 7 ET tonight finished off the Walk Of Fame week from '85, as opposed to the '77 episode previously listed. Maybe they're keeping the same block of episodes, and adding a similar number of Combs episodes to spread things out a bit.
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Meanwhile, it appears that Password Plus is going from the beginning (I don't know how much of it Buzzr has carried) while Sale picked right up where the last new eps left off, which was Helaine's first championship defense.
Noticed also, skipping ahead a bit, that we're also going to be getting a Saturday morning Sale block. Wonder if those are going to be the eps that were airing Sunday nights.
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Noticed also, skipping ahead a bit, that we're also going to be getting a Saturday morning Sale block. Wonder if those are going to be the eps that were airing Sunday nights.
They're repeats from earlier in the week, which is what all their weekend programming is except for the Sunday night block.
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Nice new graphics package by the way.
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Meanwhile, it appears that Password Plus is going from the beginning (I don't know how much of it Buzzr has carried)
Only three episodes--two from February 1979 (as part of previous marathon programming) and the 7/4/80 episode (also part of a previous marathon).
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I forgot to record last night's NYSI episodes on BUZZR. What episodes aired? The schedule indicated that the first one was a "pilot," which I interpreted as a rerun of the test show that they aired back on the "Lost 'n Found" block 17 months ago.
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I forgot to record last night's NYSI episodes on BUZZR. What episodes aired? The schedule indicated that the first one was a "pilot," which I interpreted as a rerun of the test show that they aired back on the "Lost 'n Found" block 17 months ago.
Yep--the test show and the 4/1/74 ep.
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Beginning March 6th, Jim Perry's Card Sharks will replace the Eubanks version in the Prime Time Party lineup. They will start with episode #62 (airdate 7/18/1978) Also Child's Play will replace Super Password in the morning as well, but no word on where those episodes will begin.
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I just wish they'd get to the point in the run where the change rules came into effect. To me, it feels a teensy bit counterproductive to put almost $29,000 on offer and not give a chance to the contestant to at least try to improve their position more than at the very beginning.
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I can understand why they didn't in the beginning: you have a certain amount of money you can give away, and who knows if the show survives thirteen weeks. When the show starts to roll along and get popular, then sure, change the rules we know and love where you can change each base card.
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Beginning March 6th, Jim Perry's Card Sharks will replace the Eubanks version in the Prime Time Party lineup. They will start with episode #62 (airdate 7/18/1978) Also Child's Play will replace Super Password in the morning as well, but no word on where those episodes will begin.
It looks like the Child's Play change doesn't happen until the following week, according to Buzzr's online schedule. They're starting with episode 128, but I don't know the airdate of that one.
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Beginning March 6th, Jim Perry's Card Sharks will replace the Eubanks version in the Prime Time Party lineup. They will start with episode #62 (airdate 7/18/1978) Also Child's Play will replace Super Password in the morning as well, but no word on where those episodes will begin.
It looks like the Child's Play change doesn't happen until the following week, according to Buzzr's online schedule. They're starting with episode 128, but I don't know the airdate of that one.
Episode 128's air date is March 18, 1983. The Turnabout end game debuted on episode 154. I don't believe GSN ever rerun episodes 164-168(May 9-13, 1983) or did they in its early years, my hunch says that Gene Wood returned to the mic that week or it could be Bob Hilton continuing to fill-in during that week.
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I can understand why they didn't in the beginning: you have a certain amount of money you can give away, and who knows if the show survives thirteen weeks. When the show starts to roll along and get popular, then sure, change the rules we know and love where you can change each base card.
This is a really good point, and something I'd never thought of. You can playtest and shoot pilots all you want, but until you get real contestants with real money making wagers in that particular end game, you don't know how those payouts are going to average out in the long-term. Once ratings prove adequate and there's some unexpected surplus after that first order of shows, you can loosen the purse strings.
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I can understand why they didn't in the beginning: you have a certain amount of money you can give away, and who knows if the show survives thirteen weeks. When the show starts to roll along and get popular, then sure, change the rules we know and love where you can change each base card.
This is a really good point, and something I'd never thought of. You can playtest and shoot pilots all you want, but until you get real contestants with real money making wagers in that particular end game, you don't know how those payouts are going to average out in the long-term. Once ratings prove adequate and there's some unexpected surplus after that first order of shows, you can loosen the purse strings.
I just now was able to find the episode guide:
It took six weeks for someone to win more than ten grand in one fell swoop at the Money Cards, and there were a smattering of $5k wins. After eighteen weeks the more familiar rules were in place, so I think that my idea of "hey, we're going to be renewed/we're somewhat popular, so we can loosen the purse strings" was a bit on point.
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It took six weeks for someone to win more than ten grand in one fell swoop at the Money Cards, and there were a smattering of $5k wins. After eighteen weeks the more familiar rules were in place, so I think that my idea of "hey, we're going to be renewed/we're somewhat popular, so we can loosen the purse strings" was a bit on point.
By chance, how many busts and under $1k wins were in the first 6 weeks? It felt like a lot, would be nice to see what the data says.
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I can understand why they didn't in the beginning: you have a certain amount of money you can give away, and who knows if the show survives thirteen weeks. When the show starts to roll along and get popular, then sure, change the rules we know and love where you can change each base card.
This is a really good point, and something I'd never thought of. You can playtest and shoot pilots all you want, but until you get real contestants with real money making wagers in that particular end game, you don't know how those payouts are going to average out in the long-term. Once ratings prove adequate and there's some unexpected surplus after that first order of shows, you can loosen the purse strings.
I just now was able to find the episode guide:
It took six weeks for someone to win more than ten grand in one fell swoop at the Money Cards, and there were a smattering of $5k wins. After eighteen weeks the more familiar rules were in place, so I think that my idea of "hey, we're going to be renewed/we're somewhat popular, so we can loosen the purse strings" was a bit on point.
I was under the impression from Chris Clemenson that Goodson shows went in with a guaranteed 26 weeks.
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By chance, how many busts and under $1k wins were in the first 6 weeks? It felt like a lot, would be nice to see what the data says.
I'll see what I can find tonight, but in looking for it I found some fan-made webpage that put forth the idea that on the CBS version after giving away $90k in one week with the change rules where you could use your three cards as you saw fit, that the rules were changed to one card per line, but anywhere on that line.
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By chance, how many busts and under $1k wins were in the first 6 weeks? It felt like a lot, would be nice to see what the data says.
I'll see what I can find tonight, but in looking for it I found some fan-made webpage that put forth the idea that on the CBS version after giving away $90k in one week with the change rules where you could use your three cards as you saw fit, that the rules were changed to one card per line, but anywhere on that line.
I have an example from very early in the run where the contestant changes 2 cards on the same line - if I find it, I'll throw it up on the YouTubes and link it here.
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By chance, how many busts and under $1k wins were in the first 6 weeks? It felt like a lot, would be nice to see what the data says.
I live to serve, and shout out to archive.org:
Final scores of the Money Cards for the first six weeks
600-3000-BUST-5200-BUST-2600-725-BUST-2100-200-6600-1050
Two episodes with no data
800-3150-2400-7200
two episodes with no data
2100-9600-BUST-4800-100(er?)-4500-BUST-BUST-2000 (down from 7000)-3200-12900 (with 8 on big bet)-800-700-BUST-BUST-400-2900-14800
So as opposed to one week giving away $90,000; the first six weeks of Card Sharks gave away $94,425; though there's those episodes to be filled in. It's fun to say "You can win $28,800!" but I think they were planning on a lot of people winning either less than a thousand dollars or a few thousand dollars, and those big wins would come along like on $20,000 Pyramid.
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By chance, how many busts and under $1k wins were in the first 6 weeks? It felt like a lot, would be nice to see what the data says.
I'll see what I can find tonight, but in looking for it I found some fan-made webpage that put forth the idea that on the CBS version after giving away $90k in one week with the change rules where you could use your three cards as you saw fit, that the rules were changed to one card per line, but anywhere on that line.
I have an example from very early in the run where the contestant changes 2 cards on the same line - if I find it, I'll throw it up on the YouTubes and link it here.
If I remember correctly, the $29,000 win on the Money Cards was done under that rule.
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If I remember correctly, the $29,000 win on the Money Cards was done under that rule.
That was under the one-per-line rule, though there was a $28k win that was under the "any three cards" rule.
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Switching back to Eubanks - I recall at least a couple of episodes where no Money Cards were played.
Sir Travis - thanks for the research - the results were slightly better than what my gut was telling me. Although it averages out to ~$3k per episode, which may have been what they were after?
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Sale just started Michael Friedman's run last night, so we should be seeing lot run #3 start next week. Operative word being should because they cut off just before John started his (and in the middle of it) and we got one episode into Helaine's run before they reset (this while the show aired Sundays).
If my math is right Alice Conkright should be there Wednesday night.
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Alice came in on Friday. I wasn't aware she came in in such a fashion. Into night two now, and watching her play is something to behold.
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Alice came in on Friday. I wasn't aware she came in in such a fashion. Into night two now, and watching her play is something to behold.
Had you not seen it before?
And yes, when your low score across six nights is 100, that's something. Last year I had made it all the way to week five of season two before the uploader had a hissy and pulled everything, and it was interesting in that Alice Conkwright declared our reality invalid and substituted her own. As it happens she finished with $770, so she could have bought the trip to Hawaii on her lot night.
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Haven't seen it before, no. I'm two nights in and can't wait to see the steamrolling, despite knowing the outcome.
And you're right on the "substituting her own reality" line - if Alice doesn't break the game, she certainly alters it significantly. On the first Fame Game of night two (at which point she already had $55,) she loses the buzzer race, and the guy who picks gets "$400 or Pick Again." And you can see him doing the mental calculus, realizing "Well, I need to get out of this game with something," and pocketing the $400. She had her opponents tapping out by the first break.
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This is also my first time seeing these episodes.
I think both Michael and Alice demonstrated the major flaw in Sale's format: Because the questions were relatively easy, a good trivia player just needed to hit the button the millisecond before Jim began to read the key word in the question. Even in the rare instances they didn't know the answer or buzzed too early, they were still controlling the game.
Winning Sale of the Century was never about being the best at trivia. Witness how many times Michael was beaten to the answer in the Fame Game (or forgot to shift out of his "buzz in at the first key word" strategy and then got the answer wrong). It was about knowing how trivia questions are written and having the sharpest reflexes. A contestant who accomplishes that dominates the speed round and renders the rest of the game moot.
The difference is that Michael at least participated in the premise of the show and purchased some Instant Bargains.
It makes me wonder how different things would have been if, after a contestant got a question wrong and lost $5, Jim kept reading the question and allowed the other two contestants a chance at the rebound.
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The difference is that Michael at least participated in the premise of the show and purchased some Instant Bargains.
I'm not sure why people get so hung up on this aspect of Sale. The majority of the stuff was overpriced luxury items with no realistic use. Or, as the series came to a close, worthless junk. But if I'm building a bank to win thousands of dollars in cash, I'm passing on the imported European sofa.
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It makes me wonder how different things would have been if, after a contestant got a question wrong and lost $5, Jim kept reading the question and allowed the other two contestants a chance at the rebound.
Probably would address most of the flaws you mentioned, but I would say it was probably not worth the disruption of the game. I always appreciated how Sale moved at a pretty good clip, even if it just became a battle of reflexes with victory based first buzz-ins over dollars lost on incorrect answers. Plus, there was still the motivation to try to finish the game with as high a score as possible to get to buy the better prizes... until the switch to the Winner's Board took the wind out of Sale's sails in one fell swoop.
I'm not sure why people get so hung up on this aspect of Sale. The majority of the stuff was overpriced luxury items with no realistic use. Or, as the series came to a close, worthless junk.
To this point, and to this flaw, this is where I highlight Jim Perry's excellence as MC of this game. I often find myself rooting for Jim over the contestants. When a contestant waxes eloquent about how much he'd like the prize and then agonizes over pushing the button, and then comes the price cut or a few Benjamin Franklins that gets the push... It makes for great television.
Granted, what I didn't like, which seemed to be the case as the syndicated version dragged on, was how the Instant Bargains started falling along one of three lines: If you have a lead over the sale price, you can buy the bargain at list price and get some extra cash; or if you have a lead less than the sale price, you get the price cut to the value of your lead or some extra cash for losing your lead by buying at list price. I'd like to have seen more stunts such as forcing to buy at a loss of the lead or letting the contestant keep the lead by a buck or some nominal amount. I want to say the early part of the daytime run had more flexibility on the Instant Bargain bargains, but I suppose if they fell into the aforementioned pattern, it was what worked for the budget.
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But if I'm building a bank to win thousands of dollars in cash, I'm passing on the imported European sofa.
I agree that many of the Instant Bargains were nothing more than a tax burden (there are plenty of instances where it's evident that the contestant buys only because Jim offered them a sufficient amount of cash). But from a producer's and home viewer's perspective, neck-and-neck games are more interesting to watch than runaways, and Instant Bargains keep the scores interesting.
From a contestant's perspective: Sure, if your end goal is "cash jackpot or bust," then the best strategy is to pass on every Instant Bargain. But -- barring certain extreme exceptions -- it takes at least seven wins to get there. And you never know when the contestant coordinators are going to throw an Alice Conkright into the mix to stop you (it's a different game, but look at how rare seven-day champions are on Jeopardy!). If you're content with failure meaning that you receive only whatever consolation prizes you got from the Fame Game board, then that's fine. Otherwise, you're not going to have much to show for all of your work.
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I hate to throw a wet blanket over this, but it is possible Buzzr will be rejiggering their sked again on 3/27. The funny thing is that each of the three main listings services (TVGuide, Screener/Zap2It and TitanTV) each show Buzzr carrying different lineups (TVGuide has them continuing with the current lineup, Screener has a much older lineup and TitanTV has something else--LMAD at 8PM/8:30 ET then the B&W shows starting at 9PM ET plus other differences throughout). And of course Buzzr's website has no info beyond 3/27 at 4:30 AM CT.
Don't kill the messenger.
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It wouldn't surprise me if this happens, especially with Sale because it took so long to get through the first lot win. And if I remember, the furthest they got before Sale went nightly was just past the start of the first champ to retire before getting to the lot. (We would get through lot win 3 this week, right?)
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I think the problem is that Buzzr just hasn't provided anyone with any listings past that date and the listings services all have different fallback schedules.
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I think the problem is that Buzzr just hasn't provided anyone with any listings past that date and the listings services all have different fallback schedules.
I'm almost positive that's what's really going on, but considering how quick Buzzr has been to rejigger things...
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The difference is that Michael at least participated in the premise of the show and purchased some Instant Bargains.
I'm not sure why people get so hung up on this aspect of Sale. The majority of the stuff was overpriced luxury items with no realistic use. Or, as the series came to a close, worthless junk. But if I'm building a bank to win thousands of dollars in cash, I'm passing on the imported European sofa.
This is essentially how the daytime version (pre-Winner's Board) yielded so many Cash Jackpot wins...
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Screener/Zap2It has updated--schedule holding as is.
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This is essentially how the daytime version (pre-Winner's Board) yielded so many Cash Jackpot wins...
Well, that and the fact they put the Cash Jackpot as its own step before the Lot, which (based on the available footage) led to Jackpot winners understandably not wanting to risk that cash for a shot at getting the other major prizes as well.
That's just human nature. Real talk there are only ever three things in the show room I care about: the exotic trip, the luxury car, and that glass case full of currency. I can see stopping after the first if it was somewhere I wanted to go and was exhausted. I can see stopping after the second if it was the kind of car I wanted/could convert into a lesser-valued car plus tax money and perhaps I had been in a couple of tiebreakers. But when you put that kind of money in front of a sane person, they're going to say "Thanks, bye."
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I didn't realize someone responded to my post. I'd second-guessed myself on it, then deleted it figuring that it probably didn't need to be said. Still...
But when you put that kind of money in front of a sane person, they're going to say "Thanks, bye."
Exactly, and that's why I prefer the syndicated shopping format. Having the Cash Jackpot at the end makes more sense to me.
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So here's what's interesting. It took $760 to win All the Things and $650 to win just the money. Barbara Phillips won with a total of $764, so by virtue of passing on the car and playing the next game she had enough in the bank to win the jackpot with the twenty bucks contestants started with.
I think that most contestants liked the idea of winning a massive amount of money, and in all likelihood passed on more of those major prizes than they accepted, other than the trip and car. I also think that viewers were more interested in that amount of money more than the smaller prizes unless it was something wacky like the Laserdisc player or that mini-Lamborghini that was in the first bit of the second season. I can see why the last two steps were ordered that way and I can further see why they'd go to the winners bored so soon.
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Wait, so the daytime progression was Car -> Cash -> Lot? How did nobody involved understand that the tens of thousands of dollars in cash was the biggest lure?
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Wait, so the daytime progression was Car -> Cash -> Lot? How did nobody involved understand that the tens of thousands of dollars in cash was the biggest lure?
Affirmative. I'm scrounging round for fact, but I've heard second/third hand Barb Phillips mentioning she had no intention of going for the lot.
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Wait, so the daytime progression was Car -> Cash -> Lot? How did nobody involved understand that the tens of thousands of dollars in cash was the biggest lure?
I think they understood that very well. Once a contestant won five or six games in a row, it was likely that they would win their sixth or seventh. It's better for the prize budget to give up tens of thousands in cash rather than give away tens of thousands in cash plus six prizes that included a luxury car.
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Wait, so the daytime progression was Car -> Cash -> Lot? How did nobody involved understand that the tens of thousands of dollars in cash was the biggest lure?
Speculating, but I'm pretty sure everyone involved understood it. It allowed them to advertise a giant jackpot that they never really intended to give away.
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It turns out there is a schedule change on March 27. Two hours of infomercials are now on the weekday lineup at 6AM eastern. It's four hours of infomercials on Saturday and Sunday at the same time.
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Hmm. I don't know the business side of running a television network, but that seems less than ideal?
On the positive side, the prime time runs of Password Plus and Sale of the Century are continuing with new-to-Buzzr episodes next week (also Card Sharks, I think -- I haven't been following as closely what Buzzr has aired of that).
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Hmm. I don't know the business side of running a television network, but that seems less than ideal?
I'm only minorly familiar on the subject from my encounters with it at one of the radio stations I worked at (and our TV station across the hall aired infomercials on a daily basis too), but bottom line is when you can do something with your off-peak hours to help your bottom line, you take it. To your second point of new-to-Buzzr episodes of multiple shows: If this can raise the capital, it's a worthy investment.
As I recall, was it not at the time when GSN entered the "Dark Period" that they first picked up infomercials? Obviously Buzzr can't lose the Goodson-Todman library or they'd have no programming to air. On the other hand, does this mean The Price Is Right and Feud '94 can make the schedule?
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Quick question for those more familiar... how far has Buzzr gotten with its Press Your Luck reruns?
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Quick question for those more familiar... how far has Buzzr gotten with its Press Your Luck reruns?
They're still plugging along in 1984. According to their schedule, next Wednesday they'll be up to 2/22/1984. To my knowledge, except for LMAD, the whole Prime time lineup is new to BUZZR episodes I believe.
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Quick question for those more familiar... how far has Buzzr gotten with its Press Your Luck reruns?
Ooh! I know this one, because that's the run I'm patiently waiting for more episodes of!
The most recent episode of Press Your Luck that Buzzr has aired (not including the two Michael Larson episodes and that episode they aired as part of an Independence Day marathon) is episode 131 (original air date: March 21, 1984).
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Quick question for those more familiar... how far has Buzzr gotten with its Press Your Luck reruns?
Ooh! I know this one, because that's the run I'm patiently waiting for more episodes of!
The most recent episode of Press Your Luck that Buzzr has aired (not including the two Michael Larson episodes and that episode they aired as part of an Independence Day marathon) is episode 131 (original air date: March 21, 1984).
Ah ok. So we're still a ways off from finding out if they have more episodes or not.
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Winning Sale of the Century was never about being the best at trivia.
I don't think that's a bad thing--you pointed out anticipating where the question will go, but I think that they were interestingly worded, which makes it entertaining, and the ease of them meant that the viewers had lots of chances to play along/
The difference is that Michael at least participated in the premise of the show and purchased some Instant Bargains.
Going to Mark's thing about the stuff being unappetizing, I think that the point is 1) you have a way to break up the quiz into smaller parts and to drop in some comedy as well and 2) the viewers get to see something interesting that they wouldn't see on The Price is Right, and whether the contestant buys or not is secondary. (as it happens, I think Instant Cash was brought in partly to reduce the work load of the prize procurers and the stage hands). Nobody was going to be lusting after the soup tureen in the shape of a fish, but I bet they remembered it, similar to the prizes on the original TPIR and High Rollers.
It makes me wonder how different things would have been if, after a contestant got a question wrong and lost $5, Jim kept reading the question and allowed the other two contestants a chance at the rebound.
I think they get fewer questions in per game and the flow of play breaks up some.
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Winning Sale of the Century was never about being the best at trivia.
I don't think that's a bad thing--you pointed out anticipating where the question will go, but I think that they were interestingly worded, which makes it entertaining, and the ease of them meant that the viewers had lots of chances to play along/
Counterpoint: When you get a champion who's really good at buzzing in the instant Jim reads the key word, you get a lot of half-finished questions, and while trivia aficionados can play along with "Which of our presidents was known as the sage of—", it isn't as much fun for the average viewer.
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Winning Sale of the Century was never about being the best at trivia.
I don't think that's a bad thing--you pointed out anticipating where the question will go, but I think that they were interestingly worded, which makes it entertaining, and the ease of them meant that the viewers had lots of chances to play along/
Counterpoint: When you get a champion who's really good at buzzing in the instant Jim reads the key word, you get a lot of half-finished questions, and while trivia aficionados can play along with "Which of our presidents was known as the sage of—", it isn't as much fun for the average viewer.
Counter counterpoint: Sale isn't just about the trivia aspect. I'd even argue that it plays a backseat to what the real game is...testing one's adversity to risk, especially with over one hundred grand in goodies on offer. It's not just how good are you at trivia, it's how well do you pair that with your own avaricious tendencies (that might not be the best word to use there but it's what I felt fit best).
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Your choice of words did not impede understanding. :)
And honestly, maybe the writers would then have to decide whether to rewrite that question as "What name links the third US president to the President of the Confederacy?" or "Which Founding Father shares his name with the couple who were according to the TV theme tune, 'movin' on up'?"
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Having played (OK, and lost...) both, I can tell you that as a player, I much preferred the Sale format of beating your opponents to the key word in the question over the Jeopardy format of beating your opponents to the flashing light once you've all had time to process the clue. Sale is more like quiz bowl in that respect. You win by processing the information faster, not simply by hand-eye coordination.
As a viewer, Jeopardy's structure is infinitely better to watch, because everybody at home has time to process the clue.
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Speaking of SOTC on Buzzr, something unusual happened this past week. On three shows, the winning contestant opted to take the first prize, which was a motorcycle, and leave. Most winners choose to hang around, but three people in one week choose the first prize and leave. Pretty safe to say that did not happen often.
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I bet you didn't really see too many non-car buys either, for those who didn't stick it out to get at least to the car. By my count, to this point you had three lot wins, one second level prize buy, and the three motorcycle buyers in this past run of shows. I know that we'll see at least one car buy (when the twin Fieros return as a prize), if the lease does indeed extend that far.
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I bet you didn't really see too many non-car buys either, for those who didn't stick it out to get at least to the car. By my count, to this point you had three lot wins, one second level prize buy, and the three motorcycle buyers in this past run of shows. I know that we'll see at least one car buy (when the twin Fieros return as a prize), if the lease does indeed extend that far.
Assuming we make the next few weeks, you'll see a couple of more interesting buys/retired champions
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I bet you didn't really see too many non-car buys either, for those who didn't stick it out to get at least to the car. By my count, to this point you had three lot wins, one second level prize buy, and the three motorcycle buyers in this past run of shows. I know that we'll see at least one car buy (when the twin Fieros return as a prize), if the lease does indeed extend that far.
Assuming we make the next few weeks, you'll see a couple of more interesting buys/retired champions
It looks like they're cycling back to the beginning after episode 81.
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Something that is NOT cycling back to the beginning is Match Game. New eps. of Match Game 78 added as of yesterday.
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Password Plus continues with new-to-Buzzr episodes, and Perry Card Sharks hasn't looped back yet, either.
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Password Plus continues with new-to-Buzzr episodes, and Perry Card Sharks hasn't looped back yet, either.
I forgot to mention when Sale would be looping back. That happens on April 17. Password Plus jumps forward to some later shows that they've run in marathons before on April 27 and presumably loops back to the beginning after that.
The farthest I could go in the listings shows them still plugging ahead with Perry Card Sharks at the end of the month. They'll be at episode 102 (9/12/78) by that point.
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Something that is NOT cycling back to the beginning is Match Game. New eps. of Match Game 78 added as of yesterday.
Funny, these don't appear to be from the same cuts as the others as we aren't getting the fee plugs in these eps. I know that really isn't a great big deal but considering that Buzzr for the most part has aired the episodes intact it definitely is noticeable.
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Tattletales has also been progressing at 9:30pm. If I've been following the few available episode guides correctly, #128 with Scoey Mitchell, Joe Campanella, and Allen Ludden & Betty White aired last Friday. I haven't watched Monday or Tuesday's episodes yet to see if they have gone farther.
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Tattletales has also been progressing at 9:30pm. If I've been following the few available episode guides correctly, #128 with Scoey Mitchell, Joe Campanella, and Allen Ludden & Betty White aired last Friday. I haven't watched Monday or Tuesday's episodes yet to see if they have gone farther.
Yes they have.
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Password Plus continues with new-to-Buzzr episodes, and Perry Card Sharks hasn't looped back yet, either.
I forgot to mention when Sale would be looping back. That happens on April 17. Password Plus jumps forward to some later shows that they've run in marathons before on April 27 and presumably loops back to the beginning after that.
The farthest I could go in the listings shows them still plugging ahead with Perry Card Sharks at the end of the month. They'll be at episode 102 (9/12/78) by that point.
Refresh my memory--how do you go farther in the listings?
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Refresh my memory--how do you go farther in the listings?
Using today's schedule as an example, change the date in this URL to whatever date you want to see, past dates included. Most shows list air dates, but some do not. If you view the source code, you can see episode numbers for every show.
http://buzzrplay.com/schedule/schedule_by_date/2017/4/12/America/New_York
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If you view the source code, you can see episode numbers for every show.
Oh, that is useful. And at the moment, it says that after bouncing around a little bit at the end of the preceding week, Press Your Luck will move on to episode 132 and beyond on May 1. Should I get my hopes up?
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If you view the source code, you can see episode numbers for every show.
Oh, that is useful. And at the moment, it says that after bouncing around a little bit at the end of the preceding week, Press Your Luck will move on to episode 132 and beyond on May 1. Should I get my hopes up?
You're right. The last time I had looked, the schedule only went up to the end of April, but now it goes a couple weeks into May. Looks like they'll be at least getting to episode 141 (that's where the schedule cuts off.)
Also, it looks like Now You See It goes back to the beginning after episode 22.
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Refresh my memory--how do you go farther in the listings?
Using today's schedule as an example, change the date in this URL to whatever date you want to see, past dates included. Most shows list air dates, but some do not. If you view the source code, you can see episode numbers for every show.
http://buzzrplay.com/schedule/schedule_by_date/2017/4/12/America/New_York
Big time thanks, Greg.
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BUZZR's showing Combs Feud from the Bullseye era with a CBS soaps showdown. Is this a new addition?
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BUZZR's showing Combs Feud from the Bullseye era with a CBS soaps showdown. Is this a new addition?
I think that one aired in either Lost and Found or a Family Feud anniversary marathon. (Which means if they're in random episodes from past marathons, they'll loop back to the beginning soon.)
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Yeah, they followed up the first-half CBS Soaps game with the second half of a celebrity impersonators game, and the two Dawson episodes after that were from the '85 Classic TV week. So, like you said, guess it's back to the start of the rotation come Monday or whenever.
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Guests on Tattletales this week include Louis Nye, Robert Alda and their respective wives. Bobby Van and Elaine Joyce join them. Password Plus continues fresh eps with Martin Milner and Karen Morrow, who's on a TV show called "Friends."
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It looks like Buzzr skipped an episode of the Phyllis Diller/Patti Deutsch/Gene Barry week, then skipped ahead to Robert Alda/Louis Nye/Bobby Van. Have these two weeks (Bill Cullen/Bill Macy/Bobby Van & Jim Backus/Mitzi McCall/Vonetta McGee) been skipped previously by GSN? That would explain why Buzzr skipped them, if so.
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Bobby Van & Jim Backus
I read this wrong the first time...
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Bobby Van & Jim Backus
I read this wrong the first time...
Elaine must've been furious :) They did have a Best Friends week with all guys once. Now if it had read Rock Hudson & Jim Nabors . . .
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As of May 1, Password Plus has gone back to week 1 with Liz Montgomery and Robert Foxworth.
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Beginning on May 29, Monty's Beat the Clock is scheduled to replace Let's Make a Deal (they'll be starting from the first episode).
Also, it looks like Buzzr is going to be skipping over episodes 147 and 148 of Press Your Luck. I'm watching the run as somebody who doesn't remember what the outcomes are, so I don't know if there's a specific reason, although I see that GSN has aired these two episodes in the past.
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Also, it looks like Buzzr is going to be skipping over episodes 147 and 148 of Press Your Luck. I'm watching the run as somebody who doesn't remember what the outcomes are, so I don't know if there's a specific reason, although I see that GSN has aired these two episodes in the past.
GSN skipped 148 for a while, but then it mysteriously showed back up in the rotation.
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Beginning on May 29, Monty's Beat the Clock is scheduled to replace Let's Make a Deal (they'll be starting from the first episode).
Bit of a weird selection. Aren't there only like 16 weeks total in the series?
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Beginning on May 29, Monty's Beat the Clock is scheduled to replace Let's Make a Deal (they'll be starting from the first episode).
Bit of a weird selection. Aren't there only like 16 weeks total in the series?
I counted 20, with some being incomplete due to holidays.
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Looking ahead to June 4, Beat The Clock is still in its regular Sunday timeslot. Wonder if they'll switch it out soon, now that there'll be a weekday run.
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Sure enough, Beat The Clock's weekday run will be replaced on July 3. Blockbusters will take BTC's place, starting with the Mar. 19, 1981 episode.
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I'm also noticing Press Your Luck cycles back to the beginning after episode 173.
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I just would like LMAD to come back(on Buzzr)
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Looks like as of this past Monday, Tattletales has gone back to episode #111. They've aired up to around #175 by this point.
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As of Monday, July 24, Super Password replaces Password Plus, beginning with the premiere week (Loring/Sajak) and Body Language replaces Blockbusters, beginning from where Buzzr usually restarts (episode 160 Wallace/Travalena). And on July 31, Eubanks Card Sharks returns with New-to-Buzzr episodes resuming where they left off at episode 69, replacing Perry's version.
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Looks like as of this past Monday, Tattletales has gone back to episode #111. They've aired up to around #175 by this point.
They went back to the first week, this past week.
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Body Language's run was a short one. It's already been replaced (as of this past Monday) by Child's Play (yuck!).
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It looks like they are going alphabetically through shows in that slot. One month each of Beat the Clock, then Blockbusters, Body Language and now Child's Play. May just be a coincidence, but it's something I noticed.
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It looks like they are going alphabetically through shows in that slot. One month each of Beat the Clock, then Blockbusters, Body Language and now Child's Play. May just be a coincidence, but it's something I noticed.
If Double Dare pops up next, you may be on to something.
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Except that CS could have aired in that slot. :)
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I thought about that, but seeing as CS is already in the prime time schedule, they may have chosen to skip it. I guess I should have said it looked like they were going alphabetically through the shows that didn't last very long.
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I had been ignoring Press Your Luck because the network was back to showing the late 1983 episodes again. Abruptly, this past Monday, Buzzr picked up where they left off by airing episode 174. I didn't notice this until Wednesday, so I didn't watch all the way through, but it looks like these "new" episodes are of the same lower-resolution quality as the other most recent additions.
(I would really prefer that Buzzr go back to the high-resolution transfers. On Match Game, the reduced video quality means you can't make out what the celebrities have written on their cards. Especially during the quick pan at the end after a contestant has already won.)
Meanwhile, the online schedule only goes through this Sunday, so who knows where any of the runs will be next week.
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I had been ignoring Press Your Luck because the network was back to showing the late 1983 episodes again. Abruptly, this past Monday, Buzzr picked up where they left off by airing episode 174. I didn't notice this until Wednesday, so I didn't watch all the way through, but it looks like these "new" episodes are of the same lower-resolution quality as the other most recent additions.
Will be interesting if they do keep going with Press Your Luck. Episode 182 was never aired by GSN.
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Tattletales also jumped ahead this past Monday to pick up where they left off in late October 1974. Two out of the five shows aired this past week also included the mid-show fee plugs.
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Will be interesting if they do keep going with Press Your Luck. Episode 182 was never aired by GSN.
They've updated the online schedule finally and episode 182 is scheduled for Thursday night.
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Buzzr is going to skip PYL #184, BUT the Larson episodes will air next Thursday and Friday, 12/7 & 12/8.
NTB episodes of Beat The Clock end on Tuesday, going back to October episodes on Wednesday. But it's nice to see NTB Dawson 80 episodes this week and next week.
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They've updated the online schedule finally and episode 182 is scheduled for Thursday night.
Anyone have any comments about episode 182?
Without spoiling the outcome, the show ran L-O-N-G. Two of the contestants really took their sweet time letting the board run during every spin before stopping it. Peter looked noticably irritated at someone on the crew for not "rolling the board" quickly when it became apparent that they were short on time (the camera caught him giving a "hurry up!" hand gesture to someone). The final wrap-up segment, if it still exists on tape, was not aired on Buzzr yesterday -- the show ended with Peter sending it to break after the final spin had been spun and the championship decided. No prize recap, no fee plugs, etc.
Is it possible that CBS aired the original episode and allowed it to run long on air? Purely guessing, but I suspect that the episode seemingly running over is why GSN skipped airing it in the past.
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Is it possible that CBS aired the original episode and allowed it to run long on air?
If you're asking is it possible CBS let the show run longer than thirty minutes because the producer of the show couldn't provide them with a show that was the correct length, the answer is no. There are examples of that sort of thing happening in prime time occasionally, and of course live shows, but 1980s daytime television was not a place where you could just randomly have shows running a minute or two over.
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They've updated the online schedule finally and episode 182 is scheduled for Thursday night.
Anyone have any comments about episode 182?
Without spoiling the outcome, the show ran L-O-N-G. Two of the contestants really took their sweet time letting the board run during every spin before stopping it. Peter looked noticably irritated at someone on the crew for not "rolling the board" quickly when it became apparent that they were short on time (the camera caught him giving a "hurry up!" hand gesture to someone). The final wrap-up segment, if it still exists on tape, was not aired on Buzzr yesterday -- the show ended with Peter sending it to break after the final spin had been spun and the championship decided. No prize recap, no fee plugs, etc.
Is it possible that CBS aired the original episode and allowed it to run long on air? Purely guessing, but I suspect that the episode seemingly running over is why GSN skipped airing it in the past.
A couple episodes from around this time frame seem to have multiple edited versions: most notably, the May 18th episode (where 33K was won) where the one that CBS aired included the Home Player Spin and Peter's reaction and sign off with fee plugs after *3 minutes* of prize description with several other edits interspersed, whereas GSN/Buzzr aired a version where the Home Player Spin was edited out and they cut the reaction and fee plugs. Interesting that the editor for this episode cut out the transitions; perhaps Buzzr did that themselves to fit it in the proper timeslot? No way CBS lets the show air with only 3 commercial breaks...
Tyshaun
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Episode attached. I'm a bit surprised they didn't neuter the opening to save a minute or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLgpucvSloU
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After, what was it, four weeks? we're done with Rafferty Card Sharks and back somewhere in the early weeks of Perry CS, back when players were only allowed to change the base card on the Money Cards. I'm surprised because we weren't in the Prize Card format yet, and Buzzr was using clips with that format in their promos, so they probably have more episodes of Rafferty's run at their disposal.
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After, what was it, four weeks? we're done with Rafferty Card Sharks and back somewhere in the early weeks of Perry CS, back when players were only allowed to change the base card on the Money Cards.
And, as of last night, Buzzr had gone back to the Rafferty episodes (at least at 10 PM Eastern/9 PM Central), starting with the first episode again. My understanding is Buzzr only showed the first five weeks of this run previously.
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Buzzr is also back to airing Louie Anderson eps of FF at 6 pm ET as of 1/8.
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Supermarket Sweep slots in at 8:30 ET starting Monday, hopefully putting The All-New All-Star Beat The Clock out to pasture.
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FWIW, Buzzr also just officially announced it is picking up Celebrity Name Game reruns, which will air Fridays, beginning February 9th.
That's the good news...
And now the flip side, per Broadcasting & Cable http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/programming/buzzr-picks-supermarket-sweep-celebrity-name-game/170971...
Celebrity Name Game will be part of a new Friday night programming block on Buzzr that includes Temptation: The New Sale of the Century (2007-2008) and Family Feud with host Richard Karn (2002-2006).
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Celebrity Name Game will be part of a new Friday night programming block on Buzzr that includes Temptation: The New Sale of the Century (2007-2008) and Family Feud with host Richard Karn (2002-2006).
How's that song go? One-and-a-half outta three ain't bad?
/The half was Karn Feud, in case you were wondering
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They should run Temptation back-to-back with $ale at least once for a helpful compare-and-contrast. Like a Goofus and Gallant for the game show set.
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How's that song go? One-and-a-half outta three ain't bad?
/The half was Karn Feud, in case you were wondering
Half-assed is very generous.
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It wasn't great television, but it was there. That said, I'd take the "DOUBLE THE POINTS!!1" over forced humor and terrible euphemisms any day.
/That's a lie
//I'm turning the TV off either way
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Buzzr overplays a handful of episodes: "There should be a greater variety!"
Buzzr offers a greater variety: "No, wait, we didn't mean THAT show!"
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Speaking of which, Password Plus went back to airing Episode 1 on 1/9 with Liz Montgomery and Bob Foxworth. Last week, the celebs were Robert Urich and Bart Braverman and they introduced the "no opposites" rule.
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A couple weeks ago, they aired the first episode of season 2 of syndie $ale, then jumped back to the middle of season 1.
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They should run Temptation back-to-back with $ale at least once for a helpful compare-and-contrast. Like a Goofus and Gallant for the game show set.
You mean like comparing a Cadillac to a jalopy? Or comparing, dare I say "Ice cream to horse manure"?
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A couple weeks ago, they aired the first episode of season 2 of syndie $ale, then jumped back to the middle of season 1.
Not this time. They went all the way back to the beginning this time.
I noticed also that there's an extra hour of infomercials, so the Buzzr broadcast day ends at 5 AM.
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Buzzr overplays a handful of episodes: "There should be a greater variety!"
Buzzr offers a greater variety: "No, wait, we didn't mean THAT show!"
Congratulations, you've managed to sum up all of the visitor posts on BUZZR's FB page. :)
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One thing I was thinking about the Temptation reruns...Think of the extra commercial time they will have that half-hour, since I would assume they will edit out the home shopping references and 800 numbers from the show. That could net them an extra 2-4 minutes of ads.
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It was only about 21 minutes with those added in, wasn't it?
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I didn't realize the "guarantee four rounds in every game" trick dated back to Karn Feud. Tonight, a team took the first two rounds for 173 points, so the Double round carried a maximum score of only 106. Of course, the way they set the game, with the first two rounds before the first ad break, they kinda created a problem that required such a solution.
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If I remember the CBS version they would play three single value questions, then a double and finally a triple round at light-speed. If the current show is so averse to a team winning early (which is understandable because even though I've suggested it for a long time they still have not allowed for a Double Fast Money opportunity) they they could reduce rounds three and four accordingly and round five could be sudden death.
Or they could have a host who was competent at either stretching or hurrying as the case warranted.
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Or they could have a host who was competent at either stretching or hurrying as the case warranted.
They're not hurting for a lack of content within a taping. Steve talks to both families before the game even begins, and only a fraction of that is ever left in the program. In a worst-case scenario, if a team won in three rounds and there wasn't already enough banter during the main game to pad out the episode, Steve could riff on the Fast Money answers a little bit to get the show to its proper time.
The larger problem is the "two questions in act one" issue. If a team wins the game after the Double round, then there's nothing to do in act three. Unless they split Fast Money over two acts. (Am I remembering correctly that that's what they did before they started making it impossible for a team to win after the third question?)
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The larger problem is the "two questions in act one" issue. If a team wins the game after the Double round, then there's nothing to do in act three. Unless they split Fast Money over two acts. (Am I remembering correctly that that's what they did before they started making it impossible for a team to win after the third question?)
During at least the Karn years, yes.
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At least one early O'Hurley episode did the same thing. (Here's the episode in question, in case anyone wanted to see it. :) )
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTU_mT0uNus
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Re-watching Temptation, I am convinced that for a show that is only a decade old it comes off as a lot more dated than it should ever have been. At least the original 80s $ale had a timeless combination of class meeting kitsch that holds up well.
I seriously wonder how a modern version of $ale would look like. Do you go full modern or do a full-on 80s homage?
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If a "modern" version consists of a darker, cavernous studio with regular shots of the surrounding audience, then Let's Go Retro (clap...clap...clap clap clap!)
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The larger problem is the "two questions in act one" issue. If a team wins the game after the Double round, then there's nothing to do in act three. Unless they split Fast Money over two acts. (Am I remembering correctly that that's what they did before they started making it impossible for a team to win after the third question?)
Back in the old days the first act was just the show open, monologue and meet the families. If they don't want to do that they could raise the winning score to 400.
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Re-watching Temptation, I am convinced that for a show that is only a decade old it comes off as a lot more dated than it should ever have been. At least the original 80s $ale had a timeless combination of class meeting kitsch that holds up well.
I seriously wonder how a modern version of $ale would look like. Do you go full modern or do a full-on 80s homage?
It could look like the Australian version. It needs to play closer to the Australian version.
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Back in the old days the first act was just the show open, monologue and meet the families.
Not to pick nits, but I've never seen an episode where this was the case. The '76 shows I'm familiar with had one question before the first break.
These days, I wish they would put the commercials after each of the first two questions, and play the rest, legitimately, in act three. I think the move towards really long first acts (on Feud, Price, and other shows) is to discourage tune-out, but given the popularity of the show, I don't think people are leaving after one question, particularly if you stack that one to be the most eye-grabbing.
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If a "modern" version consists of a darker, cavernous studio with regular shots of the surrounding audience, then Let's Go Retro (clap...clap...clap clap clap!)
If Match Game is any indication, a full-on homage or a slight modernization of what worked would be near perfect. Heck, they could have Bente recreate the set she made for the 80s version if she was so compelled to do so.
/ Just don't bring back the rainbow buzzers.
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/ Just don't bring back the rainbow buzzers.
Will you still watch if they do?
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Not to pick nits, but I've never seen an episode where this was the case. The '76 shows I'm familiar with had one question before the first break.
Totally fair, no quibble from this office.
I'm not a watcher other than when GSN is on when I get home and the game is on the home stretch but there should be a happy medium between a game that ends in four questions where the first half is pointless and happy fun time and 1985 when the game could have six or seven questions and Richard was shackled to the game and couldn't elaborate on hardly anything.
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There is, and it's a 5-round game that can be won in 4 if a team sweeps it, which was fine for quite awhile until it wasn't. What's the runtime on a current-day Feud episode? I'd think they'd still be able to squeeze in a 4-5 answer double round and a 3-answer triple unless it's down to 19 minutes or something super-tight.
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IYCMI - New to BUZZR episodes of $ale are on...continuing with Tim Holleran’s run.
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IYCMI - New to BUZZR episodes of $ale are on...continuing with Tim Holleran’s run.
Yeah, it seems kinda strange that they just jumped right back into where they'd left off (season premiere of year two). They usually ran everything until they were caught up.
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At least a couple of new-to-BUZZR P+ episodes will air week after next, unless I completely missed it the first time around. The last Urich/Braverman ep (#80) airs on 5/10, with Swit/Schuck the next day. Sked doesn’t go beyond early Monday the 14th.
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The schedule's all confusing right now because they never updated the episode numbers to reflect the removal of the post-2000 shows from Friday night. They aired episode 183 of Press Your Luck on Friday (continuing the proper numerical order) but then they jumped to episode 186 on Monday. Neither is what the schedule predicted.
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Is it possible episodes 184-185 aired in the 10-11pm hour over the weekend? I happened to catch those two, and former Stars broadcaster Ralph Strangis was a contestant. I thought the weekends were just repeats of the prior week's episodes, but perhaps that's been changed.
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Is it possible episodes 184-185 aired in the 10-11pm hour over the weekend? I happened to catch those two, and former Stars broadcaster Ralph Strangis was a contestant. I thought the weekends were just repeats of the prior week's episodes, but perhaps that's been changed.
Strangis was on 179-180.
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Last night's PYL (4/24) featured Ed Long and it was Day 19 of the Home Viewer contest. So tonight's show should feature the one and only Michael Larson.
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IYCMI - New to BUZZR episodes of $ale are on...continuing with Tim Holleran’s run.
Yeah, it seems kinda strange that they just jumped right back into where they'd left off (season premiere of year two). They usually ran everything until they were caught up.
And after 125, we’re back to where we kinda left off: Episode 53
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And after 125, we’re back to where we kinda left off: Episode 53
Well, we'll get to see Michael get the Conkright treatment again at least.
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It looks like one of the Friday night shows survived. Starting June 4th, Celebrity Name Game will air weeknights at 10:30PM/1:30AM Eastern. Card Sharks (Perry) and PYL both move a half hour earlier and Tattletales is bumped off the lineup (though it will still air on Saturdays).
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It looks like one of the Friday night shows survived. Starting June 4th, Celebrity Name Game will air weeknights at 10:30PM/1:30AM Eastern. Card Sharks (Perry) and PYL both move a half hour earlier and Tattletales is bumped off the lineup (though it will still air on Saturdays).
And will go back to episode 31 (from 210).
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Password Plus tonight jumped from May 1979 (Marion Ross/David Letterman) to July 1980 (Susan Richardson/Wesley Eure). I know the Friday show of the latter was the first P+ Buzzr aired as a part of a July 4th special but could they be cycling back around to the premiere after this?
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Password Plus tonight jumped from May 1979 (Marion Ross/David Letterman) to July 1980 (Susan Richardson/Wesley Eure). I know the Friday show of the latter was the first P+ Buzzr aired as a part of a July 4th special but could they be cycling back around to the premiere after this?
Yes, the premiere airs again tomorrow.
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Supermarket Sweep ends its new-to-Buzzr run this Friday (after five months -- that's good for this network). During the first cycle, Buzzr aired the episodes in numeric order. For the next cycle, they're sort of jumping around -- next week's episodes are 1140, 1145, 1133, 1137, and 1143. I wonder whether there's any significance to that.
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Looks like they're cutting back on the infomercials. Buzzr just posted to their social media accounts that the 5AM hour on weekdays will now be Family Feud (no mention of which version), Card Sharks on Saturday (again, no mention of which version) and Super Password on Sunday.
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Looks like they're cutting back on the infomercials. Buzzr just posted to their social media accounts that the 5AM hour on weekdays will now be Family Feud (no mention of which version), Card Sharks on Saturday (again, no mention of which version) and Super Password on Sunday.
Dawson (1980) for FF, Eubanks (1986) for CS.
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Heads-up: NYSI goes back to the beginning on July 27 after getting through episode 87 (with a couple of skips). Episode 87 aired 7/31/74 initially.
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Heads-up: NYSI goes back to the beginning on July 27 after getting through episode 87 (with a couple of skips). Episode 87 aired 7/31/74 initially.
Which episodes did Buzzr skip? I seem to recall GSN passed over episode 69.
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Nice.
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Heads-up: NYSI goes back to the beginning on July 27 after getting through episode 87 (with a couple of skips). Episode 87 aired 7/31/74 initially.
Which episodes did Buzzr skip? I seem to recall GSN passed over episode 69.
One of the skips will be tomorrow (70--69 aired today). The other was 52.
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Beginning July 30, Supermarket Sweep resumes with new-to-Buzzr episodes. It also starts airing twice per night, with the second airing replacing Sale of the Century.
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Beginning July 30, Supermarket Sweep resumes with new-to-Buzzr episodes. It also starts airing twice per night, with the second airing replacing Sale of the Century.
Sale moves to the mornings, replacing Now You See It.
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Beginning July 30, Supermarket Sweep resumes with new-to-Buzzr episodes. It also starts airing twice per night, with the second airing replacing Sale of the Century.
Which episodes, season and year will we be seeing?
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Guess you'll just have to watch to find out.
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Buzzr has went back to the beginning of the new batch of SuperMarket Sweep episodes as of Monday 9/3
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New weekday schedule as of 10/1 (Eastern time):
8AM: Beat the Clock (1953)
8:40AM: The Name's the Same (1952)
9:20AM: I've Got a Secret (1963)
10AM: Sale of the Century (1985)
10:30AM: Supermarket Sweep (Season 2)
11AM: Match Game 78
12PM: Match Game 76
1PM: Classic Concentration (1987, starting with episode 3)
2PM: Tattletales (1974, starting with episode 126)
2:30PM: To Tell The Truth (1973, starting with episode 1481)
3PM: What's My Line (1972, starting with episode 1571, Larry Blyden's first)
3:30PM: Password (1966, starting with 2nd color show)
4PM: Super Password (1985)
4:30PM: Card Sharks (Eubanks, 1986)
5PM: Match Game 75
6PM: Match Game 76
7PM: Family Feud (1980)
8PM: Password Plus (1979)
8:30PM: Supermarket Sweep (season 3)
9PM: Supermarket Sweep (season 3)
9:30PM: Card Sharks (1978)
10PM: Press Your Luck (1984)
10:30PM: Celebrity Name Game
11PM: Password Plus (1979)
11:30PM: Supermarket Sweep (season 3)
12AM: Supermarket Sweep (season 3)
12:30AM: Card Sharks (1978)
1AM: Press Your Luck (1984)
1:30AM: Celebrity Name Game
2AM: Match Game 75
3AM: Match Game 76
4AM: Family Feud (1988)
5AM: Family Feud (1980)
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Outside of a few special episodes of Blyden WML that GSN has aired over the years. Is this the first time that we’re seeing the series pick up with Blyden’s first episode or did GSN air it consecutively?
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Outside of a few special episodes of Blyden WML that GSN has aired over the years. Is this the first time that we’re seeing the series pick up with Blyden’s first episode or did GSN air it consecutively?
I seem to recall them showing most of Blyden's run between 1998 and 2000. I could be wrong.
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Outside of a few special episodes of Blyden WML that GSN has aired over the years. Is this the first time that we’re seeing the series pick up with Blyden’s first episode or did GSN air it consecutively?
GSN picked up with Blyden's first episode when the "dark period" ended in 1998 and subsequently aired most if not all of his run.
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Outside of a few special episodes of Blyden WML that GSN has aired over the years. Is this the first time that we’re seeing the series pick up with Blyden’s first episode or did GSN air it consecutively?
GSN picked up with Blyden's first episode when the "dark period" ended in 1998 and subsequently aired most if not all of his run.
OK, so it has definitely been a while then. My cable provider didn’t have GSN back then, so it will be good to see these new-to-me episodes.
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Outside of a few special episodes of Blyden WML that GSN has aired over the years. Is this the first time that we’re seeing the series pick up with Blyden’s first episode or did GSN air it consecutively?
GSN picked up with Blyden's first episode when the "dark period" ended in 1998 and subsequently aired most if not all of his run.
I think that GSN had made it close to the end of Blyden's run before the "dark period" began. I clearly remember watching episodes from the last season during that period and remember how on a.t.g-s someone likened it to the "Hot Dog" scheme from Windows 3.1 (http://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.tv.game-shows/dCSaECs3Rd8/puMOUhP2KHEJ).Which, in hindsight, I can totally see; either that or Ron Baldwin was on a hot dog kick while designing it.
I also think that GSN may have bounced around post 1998. Even considering production schedules, it appears that they made to the 1974-75 season less than a year after the "dark period" ended (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/alt.tv.game-shows$20WML$3F$20set/alt.tv.game-shows/7zZsyGWm_Co/F0WWN-uBStsJ).
/God, I feel old.
//Nostalgia is a hellva drug.
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Outside of a few special episodes of Blyden WML that GSN has aired over the years. Is this the first time that we’re seeing the series pick up with Blyden’s first episode or did GSN air it consecutively?
GSN picked up with Blyden's first episode when the "dark period" ended in 1998 and subsequently aired most if not all of his run.
I think that GSN had made it close to the end of Blyden's run before the "dark period" began. I clearly remember watching episodes from the last season during that period and remember how on a.t.g-s someone likened it to the "Hot Dog" scheme from Windows 3.1 (http://"https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.tv.game-shows/dCSaECs3Rd8/puMOUhP2KHEJ").Which, in hindsight, I can totally see; either that or Ron Baldwin was on a hot dog kick while designing it.
I also think that GSN may have bounced around post 1998. Even considering production schedules, it appears that they made to the 1974-75 season less than a year after the "dark period" ended (http://"https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/alt.tv.game-shows$20WML$3F$20set/alt.tv.game-shows/7zZsyGWm_Co/F0WWN-uBStsJ").
I used to watch WML almost religiously back then. Most, if not all of the final season aired, before going back to 1968. I can remember the first '68 ep. GSN aired after the final season was Joel Gray, but I can't remember where I put my wallet.
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Outside of a few special episodes of Blyden WML that GSN has aired over the years. Is this the first time that we’re seeing the series pick up with Blyden’s first episode or did GSN air it consecutively?
GSN picked up with Blyden's first episode when the "dark period" ended in 1998 and subsequently aired most if not all of his run.
I think that GSN had made it close to the end of Blyden's run before the "dark period" began. I clearly remember watching episodes from the last season during that period and remember how on a.t.g-s someone likened it to the "Hot Dog" scheme from Windows 3.1 (http://"https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.tv.game-shows/dCSaECs3Rd8/puMOUhP2KHEJ").Which, in hindsight, I can totally see; either that or Ron Baldwin was on a hot dog kick while designing it.
I also think that GSN may have bounced around post 1998. Even considering production schedules, it appears that they made to the 1974-75 season less than a year after the "dark period" ended (http://"https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/alt.tv.game-shows$20WML$3F$20set/alt.tv.game-shows/7zZsyGWm_Co/F0WWN-uBStsJ").
I used to watch WML almost religiously back then. Most, if not all of the final season aired, before going back to 1968. I can remember the first '68 ep. GSN aired after the final season was Joel Gray, but I can't remember where I put my wallet.
I can confirm that GSN indeed aired all of it, final episode was with Shari Lewis and no mention was made that it was the last show. Appropriately enough, it aired the day before the G-T shows were pulled, so we didn't see it again until April '98 when it started Blyden's run from the beginning.
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On Buzzr's prime time this evening (10/10), they aired the Password Plus episode where George Peppard went off on a rant about the forms he had to sign to go on the show. He didn't blame G-T but mentioned NBC and Fred Silverman. Allen Ludden looked uncomfortable, and I don't blame him. That would explain why Peppard was never seen on PP after this week.
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It looks like the 6PM Eastern run of Match Game 76 starting Thursday will feature a week with Anitra Ford on the panel that never aired on GSN.
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So after three weeks of new-to-Buzzr eps of Perry CS (ending at 133), they went back to ep 75 Monday.
Geez, they couldn't have converted one more week and gotten to Norma breaking the bank?
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Are the current eps. of Sale of the Century new to Buzzr? They're in the 2nd season with the randomizer in the Fame Game and the Winner's Board, specifically Alan Cervednik's (sp?) 3rd show was today. I know GSN aired all of Cervednik's shows a number of years back. I'm wondering if they're new because the show used the updated Fremantle logo.
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Are the current eps. of Sale of the Century new to Buzzr? They're in the 2nd season with the randomizer in the Fame Game and the Winner's Board, specifically Alan Cervednik's (sp?) 3rd show was today. I know GSN aired all of Cervednik's shows a number of years back. I'm wondering if they're new because the show used the updated Fremantle logo.
These are indeed new to Buzzr. :) They'll at least make it to 1986, looking at the future schedules.
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When will we see new to Buzzr episodes of Supermarket Sweep?
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On Youtube.
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On Youtube.
No one has any info about this? I'm a huge fan of Supermarket Sweep, so are other folks.
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No one has any info about this? I'm a huge fan of Supermarket Sweep, so are other folks.
No, they don't. Like Travis said, YouTube. I guess patience isn't a strong suit for you.
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Buzzr is making another brief foray into non-game show programming, running a marathon of reality competition "The Great Christmas Light Fight" on Sunday, November 25th.
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Are the current eps. of Sale of the Century new to Buzzr? They're in the 2nd season with the randomizer in the Fame Game and the Winner's Board, specifically Alan Cervednik's (sp?) 3rd show was today. I know GSN aired all of Cervednik's shows a number of years back. I'm wondering if they're new because the show used the updated Fremantle logo.
We made it to Day 1 of Curtis Warren on Friday......and today we go back to episode 16 (Day 1 of John Goss' run).
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Buzzr is making another brief foray into non-game show programming, running a marathon of reality competition "The Great Christmas Light Fight" on Sunday, November 25th.
This is something I would expect GSN - er, The Game Show Network to try more than Buzzer, but oh well.
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The Great Christmas Light Fight is a Fremantle production, which explains why Buzzr aired it, with cross promotion of the show's new season on ABC.
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FYI Buzzr has went back to the Robert Urich and Bart Braverman week on Password Plus as of Monday 11/26
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Buzzr slipped the Larson episodes of PYL into the regular rotation, airing tonight and tomorrow.
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Buzzr slipped the Larson episodes of PYL into the regular rotation, airing tonight and tomorrow.
Buzzr already aired them in rotation once before, at least.
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Beginning February 18, the network picks up where it left off with new-to-Buzzr episodes of Supermarket Sweep from season three at 8:30 p.m. (the 9:00 episodes are from season two).
Match Game PM is still new to Buzzr, as are the Classic Concentration episodes airing in the mornings right now. Has the network snuck in any other "new" episodes of their other series while we weren't looking?
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Beginning February 18, the network picks up where it left off with new-to-Buzzr episodes of Supermarket Sweep from season three at 8:30 p.m. (the 9:00 episodes are from season two).
Match Game PM is still new to Buzzr, as are the Classic Concentration episodes airing in the mornings right now. Has the network snuck in any other "new" episodes of their other series while we weren't looking?
Moore's TTTT and Blyden's WML have new eps since Buzzr moved them to the morning.
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Ludden's version of 60's Password is also airing eps not seen on Buzzr before.
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Beginning February 18, the network picks up where it left off with new-to-Buzzr episodes of Supermarket Sweep from season three at 8:30 p.m. (the 9:00 episodes are from season two).
Match Game PM is still new to Buzzr, as are the Classic Concentration episodes airing in the mornings right now. Has the network snuck in any other "new" episodes of their other series while we weren't looking?
Moore's TTTT and Blyden's WML have new eps since Buzzr moved them to the morning.
That will end next Friday. Buzzr will air ep 1611 of TTTT on 2/22, then goes back to 1541 on 2/25. WML goes from 1701 on 2/22 to another rerun of a "Bruner as Mystery Guest" from the next season on 2/25 then back to 1634 on 2/26.
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I tried looking up schedules using the secret pages linked to oh so long ago in this thread (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,29131.msg357404.html#msg357404), but now everything is coming up blank (I tried using both buzzerplay.com and buzzrtv.com as the address). Did they all disappear?
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I tried looking up schedules using the secret pages linked to oh so long ago in this thread (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,29131.msg357404.html#msg357404), but now everything is coming up blank (I tried using both buzzerplay.com and buzzrtv.com as the address). Did they all disappear?
The URL structure changed: http://buzzrtv.com/schedule/schedule_by_date/2019-3-1/America/New_York
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For the first time since last summer, new-to-Buzzr episodes of Press Your Luck pick up on April 22. This makes me happy, as they're just now getting into the period where the show has begun to hit its stride.
Meanwhile, Supermarket Sweep is still in new-to-Buzzr episodes -- after a little more than a year on the network, we've seen all of season two and are more than halfway through season three already. Thank you, Shriners Hospitals, I guess.
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Those of you with an iPhone or iPad on iOS 12+, I made this little Shortcuts script to search for episodes by date.
https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/fc1ba0c3e3ff46ab87c1d89a495bb278
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Is the morning run of Dawson Feud new-to-BUZZR also? These episodes have the black Fremantle logo at the end which I assumed meant recently added, unless they're going back into already-converted episodes and adding the new logo.
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Is the morning run of Dawson Feud new-to-BUZZR also? These episodes have the black Fremantle logo at the end which I assumed meant recently added, unless they're going back into already-converted episodes and adding the new logo.
They are indeed new. Not sure when they started airing.
From what I've seen, they don't add the new logo to already-converted episodes.
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The new-to-Buzzr Dawson Feuds from 1981 started Monday, March 25, at 81-029.
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IIRC, GSN never aired all of the P+ week with Robert Reed and Nancy Lane (8/27-31/79). The first four eps are slated to run on Bzzr starting 5/7 (in the nighttime slots). The fifth we'll find out soon (guide stops at the early morning of 5/13).
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I missed this in the rundown, but the 9:30pm ET airing of Card Sharks has switched over to the car era of the Eubanks version.
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I missed this in the rundown, but the 9:30pm ET airing of Card Sharks has switched over to the car era of the Eubanks version.
The schedule never updated to reflect that.
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It could have been a mistake. Episode 461 of the Perry version was scheduled, but what aired was episode 461 of the Eubanks version.
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It could have been a mistake. Episode 461 of the Perry version was scheduled, but what aired was episode 461 of the Eubanks version.
Looks like Eubanks is on again. So it seems it's the guide that's off.
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One thing I'm noticing with these new CS episodes: As the Perry version progressed, the game got tighter and faster. As the Eubanks version went through the years, it got sloppier and slower. We're getting one full game per show with the Money Cards at the top because the contestants are giving dissertations and Bob is pulling teeth to get a story out of the in-person survey group.
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One thing I'm noticing with these new CS episodes: As the Perry version progressed, the game got tighter and faster. As the Eubanks version went through the years, it got sloppier and slower. We're getting one full game per show with the Money Cards at the top because the contestants are giving dissertations and Bob is pulling teeth to get a story out of the in-person survey group.
Seems to me that after the first few months of playing it straight, the show struggled against $OTC ratings wise. Then Mimi O'Brien basically restructured the show around Eubanks's Newlywed Game skills which involved mining humor/smart ass commentary out of everyone and thing. Eventually the actual card game became an afterthought and they could go a whole show without playing the Money Cards.
Tyshaun
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The big problem I had was contestants not freezing in obvious freezing situations, and going when there’s no impetus to do so (the $500 bonus the Perry version offered for a 5-card run was nonexistent, but people would go anyway and inevitably be wrong).
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FTR, Perry’s version back tonight.
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Re: Perry’s Version
Were there rushed endings to the end plugs for these episodes (if you could remember the original broadcasts)? Or was this craftily edited?
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It has come to my attention that apparently, starting this week, Supermarket Sweep has gone back to airing two new-to-Buzzr episodes a night with the episode numbers now running consecutive from 8:30-9:30. Thanks to the minor acceleration in episodes, they've finally exited months of Manager's Special, to usher in the Super Supermarket Sweep era and the $200 Super Sandwich.
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Re: Perry’s Version
Were there rushed endings to the end plugs for these episodes (if you could remember the original broadcasts)? Or was this craftily edited?
They were definitely rushed original air, and my gut says they started it when it moved to noon. I think it was driven by the different commercial break timing vs the 10am slot.
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Re: Perry’s Version
Were there rushed endings to the end plugs for these episodes (if you could remember the original broadcasts)? Or was this craftily edited?
They were definitely rushed original air, and my gut says they started it when it moved to noon. I think it was driven by the different commercial break timing vs the 10am slot.
If the eps Buzzr is currently airing has them, they predated the 12N move.
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If the eps Buzzr is currently airing has them, they predated the 12N move.
The 12N move happened on August 4, 1980 along with a bunch of other changes which included David Letterman's talk show and "Another World" both being scaled back to an hour from 90 minutes. Buzzr's CS eps are in February 1980, no?
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Yep. According to Buzzr's web schedule, the upcoming 12:30 am episode aired February 25.
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If the eps Buzzr is currently airing has them, they predated the 12N move.
The 12N move happened on August 4, 1980 along with a bunch of other changes which included David Letterman's talk show and "Another World" both being scaled back to an hour from 90 minutes. Buzzr's CS eps are in February 1980, no?
Actually, CS moved to 12 noon on June 23, 1980. August 4 saw the debut of "Texas" and Password Plus moved to another time slot that day, and Betty White and Bill Cullen were still guests on the time slot change day.
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Actually, CS moved to 12 noon on June 23, 1980. August 4 saw the debut of "Texas" and Password Plus moved to another time slot that day, and Betty White and Bill Cullen were still guests on the time slot change day.
Yes! Thanks for pointing that out. CS moved to noon when "Chain Reaction" was cancelled.
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That won't be the last time my gut is incorrect :D
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One thing I'm noticing with these new CS episodes: As the Perry version progressed, the game got tighter and faster. As the Eubanks version went through the years, it got sloppier and slower. We're getting one full game per show with the Money Cards at the top because the contestants are giving dissertations and Bob is pulling teeth to get a story out of the in-person survey group.
Perhaps it's a small thing, but one of my favorite parts of later episodes of Perry CS is his skill at turning the cards fast and with panache. Definitely made it more exciting.
I have a soft spot for Eubanks CS because it's one of the shows I remember watching when I was younger, but yes, it is a snail's pace.
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It has come to my attention that apparently, starting this week, Supermarket Sweep has gone back to airing two new-to-Buzzr episodes a night with the episode numbers now running consecutive from 8:30-9:30. Thanks to the minor acceleration in episodes, they've finally exited months of Manager's Special, to usher in the Super Supermarket Sweep era and the $200 Super Sandwich.
I've meant to ask this, but how is it that BUZZR is able to crank out the Supermarket Sweep reruns like there's no tomorrow yet they're a tad slower in converting their Goodson inventory?
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Just a guess, but maybe the vintage makes them easier to convert?
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It has come to my attention that apparently, starting this week, Supermarket Sweep has gone back to airing two new-to-Buzzr episodes a night with the episode numbers now running consecutive from 8:30-9:30. Thanks to the minor acceleration in episodes, they've finally exited months of Manager's Special, to usher in the Super Supermarket Sweep era and the $200 Super Sandwich.
I've meant to ask this, but how is it that BUZZR is able to crank out the Supermarket Sweep reruns like there's no tomorrow yet they're a tad slower in converting their Goodson inventory?
We don't know Buzzr's numbers, do we? What if this is one of the most popular shows on the schedule? Perhaps that gets it bumped up to the top the priority list on conversions. It really is one of those low key favorites a lot people remember fondly.
Also, a lot of their ad time is taken up by Shriners and St. Jude. Sure Buzzr is enjoying the money.
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I've meant to ask this, but how is it that BUZZR is able to crank out the Supermarket Sweep reruns like there's no tomorrow yet they're a tad slower in converting their Goodson inventory?
The common-sense side of me wants to say that it's due to volume. I don't know for sure, but "Sweep", being a cable show, probably didn't have as many episodes per season than the average network/syndie show.
Meanwhile, the tech-nerd side of me wants to guess tape formats. "Sweep" may have been recorded on, say, Betacam (SP), as opposed to the 1" reels the networks may have been using at the time. (The networks were also working with various early digital formats, most of which really didn't stand the test of time compared to DigiBeta) With how common (and relatively recent) Beta SP was, it'd probably be easier for shows in that format to be converted to digital than anything from 1" type C, 2" quad, etc.
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I've meant to ask this, but how is it that BUZZR is able to crank out the Supermarket Sweep reruns like there's no tomorrow yet they're a tad slower in converting their Goodson inventory?
I don't know for certain, but I really do think it's attributable to Shriners Hospitals. For many, many months (over a year?), every episode of Buzzr's Supermarket Sweep has treated us to a Shriners logo placed prominently on the screen while David welcomes us to the show. If there's a deal to link the two entities, then that's where Buzzr is going to focus its conversion efforts.
/ Right now, Buzzr is running a lot of ads from charities requesting donations. Save the Children seems to be the only one not asking for $19 per month.
// Why did Supermarket Sweep make David sell the Super Sandwich so hard? Six episodes in, and I'm already sick of it.
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Aren't those ads premptible per inquiry?
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I’d imagine it’s a combination of the things mentioned—ratings/viewership, compatibility of the tapes, number of episodes, possibly the Shriner’s deal.
We don't know Buzzr's numbers, do we? What if this is one of the most popular shows on the schedule? Perhaps that gets it bumped up to the top the priority list on conversions. It really is one of those low key favorites a lot people remember fondly.
It would be very interesting to see their ratings numbers. I doubt they subscribe to Nielsen (a lot of small networks don’t, as it’s pretty expensive). But they probably have some kind of viewership data—likely from Comscore (http://comscore.com) or a smaller outfit like that.
I’ve found it odd that Sweep gets an hour in prime time nearly every night while some traditionally far bigger-name shows don’t. But you very well may be right—it may be a low key favorite that, after being off TV for years, has found a loyal viewership base.
I don't know for certain, but I really do think it's attributable to Shriners Hospitals. For many, many months (over a year?), every episode of Buzzr's Supermarket Sweep has treated us to a Shriners logo placed prominently on the screen while David welcomes us to the show. If there's a deal to link the two entities, then that's where Buzzr is going to focus its conversion efforts.
I’m a little hesitant to jump on this theory, because I’m pretty sure the charity spots are PPI, plus I’d think having a for-profit sponsor like Consumer Cellular (which has been the primary sponsor of Card Sharks for a while) would be quite a bit more valuable.
But that’s speculation on my part. I don’t know the terms of the Shriner’s deal, so you may be right. And if this the reason for Sweep’s push, it does give BUZZR some good philanthropic cred.
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While we’re doing BUZZR Q&A... Has it been said what the status of Let’s Make a Deal is? I know it was an anchor show for BUZZR when they first launched. But I don’t think they’ve run it at all since they started streaming, which seems odd since that brought in a completely new audience.
Has some issue popped up with CBS? (It would seem strange, after apparently having no problem with BUZZR & GSN both running classic LMAD for the first 10 years of Brady’s run, for CBS to suddenly have an issue with it; but who knows with these people?) Or has some hangup developed with Monty’s estate? Or is it just getting a rather lengthy rest in the vault?
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To my knowledge, Monty's estate wouldn't have anything to do with it. Fremantle owns LMAD.
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According to the newest week of listings, on July 1st, Buzzr begins airing daytime episodes of Sale of the Century beginning somewhere in summer 1988 (show #1410).
Dawson Feud also moves on to 1982 episodes.
http://buzzrtv.com/schedule/schedule_by_date/2019-7-1/America/New_York
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Replying to myself:
For the first time since last summer, new-to-Buzzr episodes of Press Your Luck pick up on April 22.
And after 30 episodes, they jumped backward in time again. That was short.
I don't know for certain, but I really do think it's attributable to Shriners Hospitals. For many, many months (over a year?), every episode of Buzzr's Supermarket Sweep has treated us to a Shriners logo placed prominently on the screen while David welcomes us to the show.
I couldn't find it at the time, but right now, Buzzr is running Supermarket Sweep promos (they start with the words "Stop and shop" on the screen) that end with a plug for Shriners Hospitals over the Buzzr bubble background. I submit this as further evidence that the two entities are meant to be linked.
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According to the newest week of listings, on July 1st, Buzzr begins airing daytime episodes of Sale of the Century beginning somewhere in summer 1988 (show #1410).
Should be the 7/13/88 ep, if the $otC wiki is right.
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According to the newest week of listings, on July 1st, Buzzr begins airing daytime episodes of Sale of the Century beginning somewhere in summer 1988 (show #1410).
Should be the 7/13/88 ep, if the $otC wiki is right.
Might this be an episode never rerun since it's original airing? Or would this be around what USA reran in 1992-93 before going to the syndie version?
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I believe so. I don’t think USA’s episodes picked up until late August.
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Re $ale: this should be somewhere between all of the special weeks and that car loss.
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Re $ale: this should be somewhere between all of the special weeks and that car loss.
Which car loss are we talking? Darrell's on the third-to-last show? :)
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Re $ale: this should be somewhere between all of the special weeks and that car loss.
Which car loss are we talking? Darrell's on the third-to-last show? :)
Probably Robin McKirahan, which I believe was August 1988.
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Re $ale: this should be somewhere between all of the special weeks and that car loss.
Which car loss are we talking? Darrell's on the third-to-last show? :)
Probably Robin McKirahan, which I believe was August 1988.
I should’ve been specific. That one.
https://youtu.be/f7JmFpXPRRI (https://youtu.be/f7JmFpXPRRI)
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Just wondering, GSN started with True Romance Week when they aired the later NBC episodes. How many weeks are we seeing that GSN didn't show?
Thanks.
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Just wondering, GSN started with True Romance Week when they aired the later NBC episodes. How many weeks are we seeing that GSN didn't show?
Thanks.
No clue how much we're getting, but Buzzr is starting roughly 17 weeks ahead of where GSN did (1410 vs. 1496)
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Just wondering, GSN started with True Romance Week when they aired the later NBC episodes. How many weeks are we seeing that GSN didn't show?
Thanks.
No clue how much we're getting, but Buzzr is starting roughly 17 weeks ahead of where GSN did (1410 vs. 1496)
1410 is Day 2 of Varisty Week.
At least we can place where these wacky weeks are on the episode guide.
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Varsity Week did apparently air on USA back in the day, by the way (there's another episode circulating from that week from a USA broadcast).
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Watching Sale of the Century tonight reminded me of how far from great the show became in this era. Too many themes weeks with the grand prize being a Jeep the other shows were giving at the time, and the totally out-of-place end game making it almost impossible to win the big $50,000 bonus, or even the car.
Maybe NBC should have put the show out of its misery a year or so earlier than when it did, replaced it with another game show, or even sitcom reruns or given the time slot back to affiliates.
Once a great show, this was a little shadow of its former self.
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Varsity Week did apparently air on USA back in the day, by the way (there's another episode circulating from that week from a USA broadcast).
Did anyone happen to record tonight's airing and can post to a private link?
Would greatly appreciate!
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IIRC, the Winners Big Money Game was introduced because NBC wanted its game shows to have an actual bonus round. I believe the Scrabble Bonus Sprint started up around the same time. At least that was the rumor I saw here...
Problem is, the show's biggest hook went out the window. It's one thing that the show went from luxury cars to modest family sedans or the same Jeep you mention, but the show itself became a regular trivia game with a generic bonus round that you could put on nearly any daytime game show of the era and it fit better. Seeing a contestant buy an $800 washer/dryer for $12 just doesn't have the same excitement as seeing them come back day after day to win a BMW for $540.
/Not that network execs are known for good decision-making
//At least the Bonus Sprint made sense and featured excitement
///The second theme song lacked excitement as well
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I remember Scrabble’s Bonus Sprint started a year before, end of 1986.
I remember enjoying the winner’s board when they first switched to it as something was won every day, but watching the first several weeks of it again recently on Buzzr, I was not so thrilled with it anymore (but still greatly beats the final format we’re seeing now). With the change from shopping, the front game lost some of its original aspect... didn’t matter anymore if you won the game with $45 or $130. Would love it if the original 2 years of daytime existed to air on Buzzr.
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IIRC, the Winners Big Money Game was introduced because NBC wanted its game shows to have an actual bonus round.
That doesn't really sound likely to me, mainly because it wasn't until around May 1989 that Win, Lose or Draw added a bonus round.
Problem is, the show's biggest hook went out the window. [...] the show itself became a regular trivia game with a generic bonus round that you could put on nearly any daytime game show of the era and it fit better.
The fact the Winner's Big Money Game was lifted from Grundy's unsold 1985 pilot Matchmates just proves that even further.
1410 is Day 2 of Varisty Week.
At least we can place where these wacky weeks are on the episode guide.
Indeed. :) Buzzr's schedules don't list airdates until #1420, but given that said episode is listed as July 26, 1988 it stands to reason that #1410 is the July 12 show.
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Varsity Week did apparently air on USA back in the day, by the way (there's another episode circulating from that week from a USA broadcast).
Did anyone happen to record tonight's airing and can post to a private link?
Would greatly appreciate!
If you missed it (like I did) it will reair Saturday night @ 9 et
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Varsity Week did apparently air on USA back in the day, by the way (there's another episode circulating from that week from a USA broadcast).
Did anyone happen to record tonight's airing and can post to a private link?
Would greatly appreciate!
If you missed it (like I did) it will reair Saturday night @ 9 et
Someone was kind enough to send it my way, but thanks for this info too!
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Watching Sale of the Century tonight reminded me of how far from great the show became in this era. Too many themes weeks with the grand prize being a Jeep the other shows were giving at the time, and the totally out-of-place end game making it almost impossible to win the big $50,000 bonus, or even the car.
Maybe NBC should have put the show out of its misery a year or so earlier than when it did, replaced it with another game show, or even sitcom reruns or given the time slot back to affiliates.
Once a great show, this was a little shadow of its former self.
I agree with your sentiments, but the ratings show no change with the bonus game addition.
Sale took its biggest rating hit when NBC moved it from 10:30et against Card Sharks to 10:00et against Pyramid.
Dec'86 @ 5.3/18 to Mar'87 @ 3.3/15
That move did knock Pyramid off the schedule, though.
It creamed Blackout in '88 @ 2.3/9 vs 3.4/14
It was neck-and-neck with Feud both pulling 3.3/14 vs 3.4/14 for the time they ran against each other in 88 through Jan'89.
Holistically, from '87 - '93, every schedule change or pre-preemption NBC made in their morning lineup resulted in lower ratings.
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Interesting, how were Pyramid’s ratings when it got cancelled at the end of 87, and how we’re Scrabble’s ratings when it replaced Sale of the Century in the 10AM slot? I believe ratings were still okay when Scrabble was cancelled the next year, but NBC wanted to go in a different direction Chuck said in one of the last shows?
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how we’re Scrabble’s ratings when it replaced Sale of the Century in the 10AM slot? I believe ratings were still okay when Scrabble was cancelled the next year, but NBC wanted to go in a different direction Chuck said in one of the last shows?
I don't have the ratings point, but Scrabble was hovering around a 10 share at the time of its cancellation in 1990 compared to Feud's 13, so not really OK. By this point, if you weren't Price, your share was a 15 or less.
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Variety had a front page story about the low ratings of all the NBC games when the cancellations were announced. By that time KNBC had relegated Scrabble, Wheel and Concentration to the overnight hours.
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Tonight's Sale of the Century is the Mary Ann/David/Whitney episode of Varsity Week which had previously been making the rounds from a USA Network airing. Nice to see it in context alongside (most of) the rest of the week. :)
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Something happened on tonight's Sale episode that I don't recall ever seeing before...
... a player winning the WBMG after passing on a puzzle.
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Also notable for Monday's show is Instant Cash is at $14,000. (2nd highest, next to the penultimate show?) The current champ has had the lead at IC on all 5 shows, and passed up IC all 5 times.
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Also notable for Monday's show is Instant Cash is at $14,000. (2nd highest, next to the penultimate show?)
Unless I'm much mistaken, it will match said penultimate show's level when it's won.
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The Match Game PM wheel was on the fritz last night
(https://i.imgur.com/oKteuab.jpg)
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That was just the rarely seen episode where the contestant matched the $ꟻ80 response. I was in the studio audience when he did it.
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That was just the rarely seen episode where the contestant matched the $ꟻ80 response. I was in the studio audience when he did it.
My bowling buddy said he got the $Ↄ40 response twice.
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Also notable for Monday's show is Instant Cash is at $14,000. (2nd highest, next to the penultimate show?)
Unless I'm much mistaken, it will match said penultimate show's level when it's won.
Our timeline mystery gets a little more clearer: Today's game is Robin McCarrahan's first day, so the $16,000 win will be on Wednesday.
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Re $ale: this should be somewhere between all of the special weeks and that car loss.
Which car loss are we talking? Darrell's on the third-to-last show? :)
Probably Robin McKirahan, which I believe was August 1988.
Which we can now confirm was 8/3/88 and will be airing one week from tomorrow.
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Re $ale: this should be somewhere between all of the special weeks and that car loss.
Which car loss are we talking? Darrell's on the third-to-last show? :)
Probably Robin McKirahan, which I believe was August 1988.
Which we can now confirm was 8/2/88 and will be airing one week from tomorrow.
8/3/88 was the car loss
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Our timeline mystery gets a little more clearer
While simultaneously adding something unclear: one of the challengers on tonight's episode, John Newberg (sp?), was back due to an error during his original second game (which was presumably earlier in the WBMG era, since Jim notes that winning today would let him play it for $6,000).
John's prior total isn't mentioned (nor particularly specified aside from a trip to San Diego), but subtracting what he wins here from his grand total of $25,200 leaves him with prior winnings of $21,483 (including $16,000 cash, indicating he claimed Instant Cash at least once and possibly the WBMG as well).
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8/3/88 was the car loss
Math never was my strong suit. :)
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Bit of a bump, but I think it's notable - tonight's Sale of the Century, #1434 (Josh/Kathy/Kelton, aired 8/16/88), is the first episode without the six-number Winner's Board, though the change wasn't mentioned on-air.
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Bit of a bump, but I think it's notable - tonight's Sale of the Century, #1434 (Josh/Kathy/Kelton, aired 8/16/88), is the first episode without the six-number Winner's Board, though the change wasn't mentioned on-air.
Interesting, I haven't been watching so I had no idea it lasted as long as it did.
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Bit of a bump, but I think it's notable - tonight's Sale of the Century, #1434 (Josh/Kathy/Kelton, aired 8/16/88), is the first episode without the six-number Winner's Board, though the change wasn't mentioned on-air.
Nope. That’s tomorrows episode.
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Oops, sorry about that. :(
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Well, it's been about two full months since there have been any new-to-Buzzr episodes of Supermarket Sweep. On August 12, the network corrects that by picking up where they left off in the 8:30 p.m. weekday slot. First, they'll show the remaining five season three episodes that they hadn't aired yet, then they'll start into season four.
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It'll be good to see just how short-lived those yellow scoreboards actually were (among other things).
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Well, it's been about two full months since there have been any new-to-Buzzr episodes of Supermarket Sweep. On August 12, the network corrects that by picking up where they left off in the 8:30 p.m. weekday slot. First, they'll show the remaining five season three episodes that they hadn't aired yet, then they'll start into season four.
I think you meant Season 4 MSTieScott. Season 3 of Supermarket Sweep still had all the fee plugs shown at the end of the episode. Season 5 witnesses the very short-lived yellow scoreboards and the very short-lived eye-soaring TV Mystery Product screens which that didn't activate properly, those episodes with them still had 3 inflatable bonuses in the Big Sweep.
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Buzzr treats the 1990s reboot as its own series with its own season numbering; my post reflects that.
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$otC goes back to 1985 syndication two weeks from today. They get as far as 1449 (9/6/88) on 8/23.
Also, TT reverts back to Xmas-ish 1974 on 9/2.
On the plus side, new-to-Buzzr SP eps begin on 8/19 (9/5/85, picking up where they left off).
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Supermarket Sweep made the switch to blue scoreboards tonight. I thought the yellow ones looked fine and were perfectly readable, but perhaps that wasn't the case on an SD tube.
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I try to tamp down on the arguing over minutiae and stuff but man alive I hated the yellow and was glad to see them change to blue.
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Supermarket Sweep made the switch to blue scoreboards tonight.
On the eighth episode of the season, which confuses me -- during prior seasons, they appeared to tape five episodes per day.
(Still waiting to see the extra ways to earn time and sweep bonus money that David keeps promising at the top of the show. Especially considering that the front game eliminated approximately three questions and the big sweep eliminated the $200 opportunity in the Manager's Special or Super Sandwich.)
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Supermarket Sweep made the switch to blue scoreboards tonight.
On the eighth episode of the season, which confuses me -- during prior seasons, they appeared to tape five episodes per day.
(Still waiting to see the extra ways to earn time and sweep bonus money that David keeps promising at the top of the show. Especially considering that the front game eliminated approximately three questions and the big sweep eliminated the $200 opportunity in the Manager's Special or Super Sandwich.)
The first PAX season in 2000 had three episodes taped on the first taping day and four episodes taped on the second taping day, so I guess this 1993 season was the same way as well.
Also, the three (or so) questions were brought back later in the 1993 season (definitely by the last batch of taped shows of that season), and the Manager's Special and Super Sandwich bonuses were brought back in the 1994 season.
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Tonight's episode brought back the $250 touchscreen product while keeping the four jumbo bonus items in play. Also, there was a weird "taste test" mini-game where a player could win $50 to go with their 10 seconds if they could tell whether a sample of ice cream was regular or light. So there's a little more money and gimmick variety in the game trickling in gradually.
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Also, there was a weird "taste test" mini-game where a player could win $50 to go with their 10 seconds if they could tell whether a sample of ice cream was regular or light.
Was this after a series of questions about movies? If not, it will soon become a regular feature...the "Snack Attack Movie Game". If I remember correctly, one variant was asking a contestant to identify a product for $50. If they couldn't do so on the first go, the money was halved and the contestant then was offered a 50/50 option.
For no particular reason, an episode stands out in my mind with an incorrect guess of 7Up, and then a choice between Slice or Sprite.
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Also, there was a weird "taste test" mini-game where a player could win $50 to go with their 10 seconds if they could tell whether a sample of ice cream was regular or light.
Was this after a series of questions about movies? If not, it will soon become a regular feature...the "Snack Attack Movie Game". If I remember correctly, one variant was asking a contestant to identify a product for $50. If they couldn't do so on the first go, the money was halved and the contestant then was offered a 50/50 option.
For no particular reason, an episode stands out in my mind with an incorrect guess of 7Up, and then a choice between Slice or Sprite.
It was the Snack Attack Movie Game, except that the 50/50 choice was given up-front, and there was only one chance to get the money (someone played this game either last week or week before last and lost).
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I wasn't able to record last Friday's 8:30 PM airing of the season 4 episode of Supermarket Sweep. Can anyone find out for me when will this episode re-air on buzzr? Thanks.