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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: cmjb13 on June 26, 2003, 05:44:09 PM
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We know what taped at CBS and NBC, but...
What taped at ABC besides Feud and Trivia Trap?
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By \"ABC\" do you mean the Prospect Avenue facility in Hollywood? They used several other facilities around town including the Hollywood Palace and the Vine Street Theater.
To name a few off the top of my head:
The Better Sex
Let's Make A Deal
The Dating Game
The Newlywed Game
Temptation (Hollywood Palace)
Password (Vine Street Theater)
Split Second
Showoffs
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I guess their \"main\" facility
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You can also add \"Pop N Rocker Game\", and, though I don't think it's
a game show, it's on GSN, so it must be :), part of the run of Chuck
Woolery's \"Love Connection\".
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We can add Second CHance(I think), Hot Seat(forget if that's Vine St. Theater or the Prospect building), All-Star Blitz, Hot Streak, Mama Non Mama(Pilot), Double Talk, Bargain Hunters, and MG90.
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Davidson Squares taped for one season at ABC. I believe it was the 1987-1988 season.
Isn't (or wasn't) Sunset-Gower an ABC facility?
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i'm not sure about $xx,000 Pyramid, but i'm pretty sure WWTBAM taped in the main ABC building. or at least in the same building as Peter Jennings' and Connie Chung's news show(s).
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WWTBAM tapes in the same building that Regis & Kelly tapes, and where Good Morning America used to tape before moving to Times Square.
Eric
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jun 26 2003, 08:16 PM\']We can add Second CHance(I think), Hot Seat(forget if that's Vine St. Theater or the Prospect building), All-Star Blitz, Hot Streak, Mama Non Mama(Pilot), Double Talk, Bargain Hunters, and MG90.[/quote]
You can also add RHYME AND REASON and BREAK THE BANK '76 as well.
Do we dare count DREAM GIRL OF '67 (or its 19-year later copycat DREAM GIRL USA [among those who competed on DGUSA was a young woman who went to my high school a couple of years after I did--you know her today as Charlotte Ross])?
Although the EOTVGS shows the 70s run of TREASURE HUNT taped at the Burbank Studios, unless director John Dorsey brought a whole bunch of ABC techs over there to serve as his crew I'd venture to say that that's a mistake and that TH taped at ABC (I'd also venture to say that the EOTVGS is correct about the 1980-81 run taping at the Burbank Studios).
There's a bunch more as I thumb through my copy of the EOTVGS, but someone else can take over. I'm tired. :)
Doug
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[quote name=\'bricon\' date=\'Jun 26 2003, 07:07 PM\']... though I don't think it's
a game show, it's on GSN, so it must be :), part of the run of Chuck
Woolery's \"Love Connection\".[/quote]
Thanks for pointing that out Brian. I'm glad to see I'm not the ONLY one who thinks that! Can anybody shed some light on how/why \"Love Connection\" is considered a \"game show?\"
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It's the game of love....with Chuck hosting and Rod Roddy, Gene Wood and Burt Luddin announcing. There are fee plugs and a studio audience, it's sort of a post-mortem Dating Game where the we find out the intimate details of a first date. Sometimes there's a happy ending...and sometimes just an ending, but it's all in good fun as we watch singles trying to make that Love Connection! The game portion is this, the audience is given an opportunity to vote for one of three possible dates. If the majority of the audience selects the same person originally selected by the dater, the couple wins a second date paid for by the producers, which may be accepted or declined by the parties involved.
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Jun 26 2003, 09:25 PM\']i'm not sure about $xx,000 Pyramid, but i'm pretty sure WWTBAM taped in the main ABC building. or at least in the same building as Peter Jennings' and Connie Chung's news show(s).[/quote]
Adding NY facilities opens up a whole other can of worms. As I was thumbing through the EOTVGS last night I was mainly looking for the shows taped out of ABC in L.A. (either at the Palace, Vine Street or the main space at Prospect and Talmedge). But you're right--the ABC PYRAMIDs (along with shows like THE MONEY MAZE, THE BIG SHOWDOWN and Regis' THE NEIGHBORS, not to mention WWTBAM) did tape out of ABC facilities in NY. There's a bunch more too (but the book isn't handy for me right now).
As far as network shows go, it may be easier to point out what ABC shows did NOT tape at one of their facilities (in NY or L.A.). For syndies, aside from the aforementioned second season of Davidson HSq, POP & ROCKER, DGUSA, my supposition of TREASURE HUNT (70s) and a few seasons of LC, I'm hard-pressed to think of another. For some reason, Jim Lange's TRIPLE THREAT springs to mind but I'm not sure about that one.
Doug
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\"The Neighbors\" taped in California. Regis was working for KABC at the time as a movie critic and morning show host. Occasionally our ABC affiliate in Michigan would run his movie reviews during the evening news.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jun 27 2003, 11:01 AM\'] "The Neighbors" taped in California. Regis was working for KABC at the time as a movie critic and morning show host. Occasionally our ABC affiliate in Michigan would run his movie reviews during the evening news. [/quote]
My bad. Thanks! :)
Doug
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Although the EOTVGS shows the 70s run of TREASURE HUNT taped at the Burbank Studios, unless director John Dorsey brought a whole bunch of ABC techs over there to serve as his crew I'd venture to say that that's a mistake and that TH taped at ABC
Yes and no...TH did indeed tape at ABC for its first 2 seasons or so, but moved over The Burbank Studios during its last season...it was during that time they also switched from flip cards to Chyron for the price graphics and closing credits.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious \"Chuckie Baby\")
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Did Jim Lange's NNG from '84 tape in any of the ABC studios?
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Isn't (or wasn't) Sunset-Gower an ABC facility?
Not technically. ABC rented out several stages used for various
sitcoms, and also General Hospital. Though they were exclusive
to ABC's use and those shows did, to the best of my memory,
say ABC TV Center in the credits. NBC also rented space for
Days Of Our Lives for several years.
WWTBAM tapes in the same building that Regis & Kelly tapes
TV-1/TV-2 are actually in a separate building from TV-14, which is used
for Regis/Kelly. The main TV center goes back many years, as a stable,
before ABC moved in. WABC's building (TV-14) was built in the early
1980's.
Did Jim Lange's NNG from '84 tape in any of the ABC studios?
Per a ticket I have for that week of shows, yes it did.
And, at least one week of the ABC Dating Game episodes were taped
in New York, around 1972-ish. I don't know if these episodes are
identified as such in the credits, or content.
Brian
(who now thinks he spent *way* too much time wandering through
various studios in the 1970's)
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As far as network shows go, it may be easier to point out what ABC shows did NOT tape at one of their facilities (in NY or L.A.). For syndies, aside from the aforementioned second season of Davidson HSq, POP & ROCKER, DGUSA, my supposition of TREASURE HUNT (70s) and a few seasons of LC, I'm hard-pressed to think of another. For some reason, Jim Lange's TRIPLE THREAT springs to mind but I'm not sure about that one.
I believe that \"Triple Threat\" was shot at the Aquarius Theatre in Hollywood, where \"Star Search\" from the same syndicator was taped at the same time. It's now known as Nickelodeon on Sunset--\"The Amanda Show,\" \"All That\" and sister channel TNN's \"Conspiracy Zone with Kevin Nealon\" are/were taped there, among others.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jun 27 2003, 01:52 AM\']
... It's the game of love....with Chuck hosting and Rod Roddy, Gene Wood and Burt Luddin announcing. There are fee plugs and a studio audience...[/quote]
Oh.. Ok. When you mention THAT, I can see how it's considered a "game show," although I really can't...
The game portion is this, the audience is given an opportunity to vote for one of three possible dates.
Ok.. 'THE AUDIENCE' as in STUDIO audience..
Perhaps that's why I don't associate it with being a game show?
Game shows that I usually watch have a portion in which some element of
knowledge is required, via: questions, quizzes, or "pick an answer," - even if it's a multiple choice or yes or no type thing. - As much as many of you folks have criticized Peter Tomarken's version of "Press Your Luck" saying that it's a game of PURE "luck," while that statement is somewhat true, you haveta keep in mind that the players wouldn't have as much
"luck" turned MORE spins if they didn't answer the questions correctly FIRST... so actually, the way "I" see it is, PYL is NOT so much based on "luck," its pre requisite is "knowledge..." Luck enters into the game when you decide what you DO with your knowledge; or, spins -- pass 'em or take 'em...? You do kinda haveta know.. something! Now, Whammy... In the first round.. the money/bank is GIVEN to you... that's one aspect of the show I wish was different, although I am sure it is just ME ;-)
"Love Connection" on the other hand, or even "The Dating Game" I do not see as a "game show" aside from the announcers, fee plugs, and host.. It hardly compares to the format of a Clark "Pyramid," COMBS "Feud," Ludden "Password," etc., etc., etc. (In these few examples I cited, the audience "at home" can play along answering questions, and there are MANY other shows that have the same format: play along at home). I see NO part of "Love Connection" where the "at home" audience can play along, nor do I see any part of the show where the contestant HAS to know something.. to win something! I think THIS game is PURE LUCK, basically the way I see it is, "Love Connection" is idle chit chat with contestants about a previous date. I don't see any element of knowledge in that game, is there? Even Eubanks' "Newlywed Game"(I like the host, but have no interest in his game show!) is a game where you HAVE to answer a question correctly FIRST to get points.. which ultimately determines the winner.
Isn't "Love Connection" more/less like watching a "soap opera" in the fact that there is NO knowledge
needed to participate?
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I think you will find many people who do not consider \"Love Connection\" a game show, maybe it would be better considered a discussion show with door prizes. There are a couple of other shows that don't require any knowledge on the part of the contestant. The Barris \"Treasure Hunt\" and \"Truth or Consequences,\" come to mind. Hope this isn't getting off topic too much.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jun 27 2003, 01:34 PM\'] I think you will find many people who do not consider "Love Connection" a game show, maybe it would be better considered a discussion show with door prizes. [/quote]
I think the whole \"Love Connection\" debate can be solved by answering one question:
Would GSN even CONSIDER running it if Chuck Woolery were not the host? Say a non-GS personality were in there, like, oh, Jenny Jones.
Answer: Hell no, they wouldn't.
I rest my case.
ObZach: Jenny Jones is no more a game show personality than Kirstie Alley or Kathy Najimy, so don't bother.
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Did Jim Lange's NNG from '84 tape in any of the ABC studios?
NTT '84 taped at the KTLA (Channel 5) studios. And I ought to know!
WHOOPS! I thought those initials read Name That Tune '84!
Scrubbing the egg off of my face,
Tammy Warner--the 'Kathy Mitchell of GS websites!'
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The Aquarius Theater was also home to Fox's ill-fated late-night talk show with Chevy Chase. More to the point of game shows, I believe it also had Queen for A Day back when it was the Moulin Rouge nightclub.
In addition to Treasure Hunt, I seem to recall that the Burbank Studios (Warner Bros.) were also home to the ABC version of You Don't Say.
Now: did ABC prospect also have Dick Clark's The Object Is? And perhaps Jack Linkletter's The Rebus Game?
(Too lazy to get the EOTGS.)
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In addition to Treasure Hunt, I seem to recall that the Burbank Studios (Warner Bros.) were also home to the ABC version of You Don't Say.
Yes it was. As was the series of Give-n-Take. The pilot for that was done
at CBS. And, season 2 of Dealer's Choice was at Burbank Studios also.
Now: did ABC prospect also have Dick Clark's The Object Is? And perhaps Jack Linkletter's The Rebus Game?
Yes again.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jun 27 2003, 09:14 PM\']The Aquarius Theater was also home to Fox's ill-fated late-night talk show with Chevy Chase. More to the point of game shows, I believe it also had Queen for A Day back when it was the Moulin Rouge nightclub.[/quote]
Yes indeed. And you could almost make a case for \"Queen For A Day\" being the last hit TV show from that theatre! The list of losers is long.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Jun 27 2003, 09:32 PM\']Yes indeed. And you could almost make a case for \"Queen For A Day\" being the last hit TV show from that theatre! The list of losers is long.
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Game-show wise you definitely could, but as Mark pointed out earlier in this thread, I'd think STAR SEARCH probably wins that battle as far as all-time TV goes (while season one taped at Metromedia, much of the rest of its L.A. based run taped at the Aquarius before they jumped ship and moved to Orlando).
Didn't the Aquarius also house several telethons (Easter Seals in the mid-to-late 1980s, Lou Rawls Parade of Stars, etc., etc.)?
Doug
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Yes indeed. And you could almost make a case for \"Queen For A Day\" being the last hit TV show from that theatre! The list of losers is long.
Game-show wise you definitely could, but as Mark pointed out earlier in this thread, I'd think STAR SEARCH probably wins that battle as far as all-time TV goes (while season one taped at Metromedia, much of the rest of its L.A. based run taped at the Aquarius before they jumped ship and moved to Orlando).
And on Nickelodeon and/or cable terms, \"All That\" and \"The Amanda Show\" would have to be considered successes (particularly since \"All That\" is nine years and at least one complete cast change and counting).