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Title: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: weaklink75 on July 26, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
http://www.buzzerblog.com/2014/07/25/price-is-right-ep-mike-richards-teases-updated-games-and-new-doors/ (http://www.buzzerblog.com/2014/07/25/price-is-right-ep-mike-richards-teases-updated-games-and-new-doors/) Per Buzzerblog, there will be a remodel of a game and a reboot of an old game- any ideas?

I'd think the reboot could be something like Hit Me- just use two 4-digit prizes, and have the player use the prices as their cards, calling a position of a prize (say the 3rd digit of the 1st prize)- a 0 is a ten, and a 1 is an Ace (so 1 or 11); the house uses a standard deck (and be clear on a couple of the rules- ties go to the player, and the house sticks on a soft 17)

Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: clemon79 on July 26, 2014, 01:45:16 PM
I'd think the reboot could be something like Hit Me- just use two 4-digit prizes, and have the player use the prices as their cards, calling a position of a prize (say the 3rd digit of the 1st prize)- a 0 is a ten, and a 1 is an Ace (so 1 or 11); the house uses a standard deck (and be clear on a couple of the rules- ties go to the player, and the house sticks on a soft 17)

'Cuz that's not overcomplicated at all.

(Right off the top, neverminding having to explain a 0-to-10 conversion: as soon as you have to explain to the audience what a "soft 17" is, you've lost them.)
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on July 26, 2014, 10:45:49 PM
I'm guessing the reboot game could be Penny Ante, Credit Card, Poker Game or (long-shot) Time is Money. One game I'd personally LOVE to see come back is Super Ball.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: whewfan on July 27, 2014, 08:07:31 AM
If it's Poker Game, chances are it'll have different rules. The game doesn't really work anymore with the current rules. Since Bob encouraged players to look for prizes with 9s in the price, there had to be two prizes with 9s to make the game winable. So, any fan of the show would know that if the prizes they chose left them a poor hand, or had no 9s in their hand, passing to the house makes for an easy win. Still, I always liked this game and was sorry to see it go.

I don't really miss Credit Card. It's a neat game, but it's not one of my faves.

Time is Money should stay out... it was a poorly designed game. The $500 voucher was pointless, because $500 isn't enough of an incentive to walk away, and if they DID walk away with the $500 (as it happened on the game's first playing) it was a pretty good waste of about a couple minutes.

Penny Ante SHOULD return, and I think Drew would actually have some fun pressing the buttons and watching the lights go up the game. To avoid game malfunctions though, I think the reveals should be CGI... they could still have some cool visual effect to reveal a YES or NO.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: SuperMatch93 on July 27, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
I wonder if the game they're returning will be one of the long-retired games that has appeared in the Price is Right Slots game, like Hurdles.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: comicus on July 27, 2014, 02:13:05 PM
Super Ball would be cool.  Maybe Drew won't biff his ankle on it like Bob did.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Neumms on July 27, 2014, 02:28:17 PM
Super Ball would be cool.  Maybe Drew won't biff his ankle on it like Bob did.

This seems a bit more exciting than bringing back Credit Card or, say, Give or Keep. If the problem was that it took too long, there are fixes. Give a free ball, then play small prizes for three more. Scrap the numbered prizes and just play for cash--middle hole is worth, say, $5000, so it's a possible (though unlikely) $20,000.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: TLEberle on July 27, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
This may not be my original idea but I like it so much: have a prize behind each door and treat the Super Ball like the Big Deal: give up everything you've won to roll it and play it out like normal.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Bryce L. on July 27, 2014, 09:31:11 PM
This may not be my original idea but I like it so much: have a prize behind each door and treat the Super Ball like the Big Deal: give up everything you've won to roll it and play it out like normal.
This I like, though I must ask... under this format, what would you offer as a Super Ball prize if the player is sufficiently skilled to win all three prizes with the first three balls?
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: clemon79 on July 27, 2014, 09:42:04 PM
This I like, though I must ask... under this format, what would you offer as a Super Ball prize if the player is sufficiently skilled to win all three prizes with the first three balls?

You don't. Yay, player wins everything, cue bells.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Bryce L. on July 27, 2014, 09:58:49 PM
This I like, though I must ask... under this format, what would you offer as a Super Ball prize if the player is sufficiently skilled to win all three prizes with the first three balls?

You don't. Yay, player wins everything, cue bells.
Rather anti-climactic, especially compared to the original, which DID have a procedure in place for this case (and actually was used once)
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: TLEberle on July 27, 2014, 10:03:51 PM
Chris is right; the Super Ball exists only as a work-around in my idea. And really, the $3,000 bonus wasn't any more climactic than when someone had the chance to win all three prizes, sank it in the win hole, the music and bells fire up and the doors are thrown open to the riotous applause of the crowd.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: clemon79 on July 27, 2014, 10:45:04 PM
Rather anti-climactic, especially compared to the original, which DID have a procedure in place for this case (and actually was used once)

I fail to see how "dude won the car with the 3rd ball OMG BBQ!!!" is anticlimactic, ever.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: JayDLewis on July 27, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
Personally, I'd like to see Penny Ante return.

Practically, Bump. A quickie 2-prize game to add variety to the One Right Price/Bargain Game/Switch? quickies.

ETA: I said YEARS ago that Poker Game is easily modified for 1-prize. Use grocery items for your "hands" & add a shelf on the price display/stand (ala Let 'Em Roll).
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: TLEberle on July 27, 2014, 11:29:15 PM
I could pass on Credit Card, I thought Time is Money was a good idea left half baked...most of the games I would welcome back though I think Phone Home is a silly idea in a bloated cash game universe.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: parliboy on July 27, 2014, 11:58:05 PM
Two words: Trader Drew
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Sodboy13 on July 28, 2014, 12:38:14 AM
Mike Richards tweets a photo of a shower nozzle and the internet's gonna be left in ruins.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: TLEberle on July 28, 2014, 12:43:11 AM
Mike Richards tweets a photo of a shower nozzle and the internet's gonna be left in ruins.
If it cuts down plays of That's Too Much I think I could live with that.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: J.R. on July 28, 2014, 01:34:53 AM
If it cuts down plays of That's Too Much I think I could live with that.
Would rather see it go away for good. Seriously: I have only seen that game won once in my life. And I tape traded for it.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BrandonFG on July 28, 2014, 02:29:54 AM
If it cuts down plays of That's Too Much I think I could live with that.
Would rather see it go away for good. Seriously: I have only seen that game won once in my life. And I tape traded for it.
It's okay for its simplicity, but like you, I think I've only seen it won once or twice. Honestly, I feel the prices are a little too close for you to only get one guess. At least with Five Price Tags you get a couple of chances.

Maybe offer a second chance guess if Drew has indeed gone over, but you only get one shot to decide which price is the one that's over, right then and there. Either that, or reduce how many prices there are...
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: TLEberle on July 28, 2014, 06:39:53 PM
It's okay for its simplicity, but like you, I think I've only seen it won once or twice. Honestly, I feel the prices are a little too close for you to only get one guess. At least with Five Price Tags you get a couple of chances.

Maybe offer a second chance guess if Drew has indeed gone over, but you only get one shot to decide which price is the one that's over, right then and there. Either that, or reduce how many prices there are...
Doesn't the second chance sort of undermine the point? If you get a second chance if you're over then why bother trying; just let Drew reveal them all and pick what's right after the fact. (I don't think that would be a terrible game if mounted like that, but that's not the point of TTM.) Since it's played for a car I don't mind the difficulty, but given the extra difficulty I'd like to see it become a mid-range game between Golden Road or Triple Play or Three Strikes, but played for more expensive cars than the hoi palloi games.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Unrealtor on July 29, 2014, 01:13:21 AM
Practically, Bump. A quickie 2-prize game to add variety to the One Right Price/Bargain Game/Switch? quickies.

I find it hard to argue against more variety in the one-decision games, and Bump seems like it would be a good game to resurrect given that the conventional wisdom is that it was retired for reasons that have nothing to do with the game itself.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Flerbert419 on July 29, 2014, 11:24:58 PM
Practically, Bump. A quickie 2-prize game to add variety to the One Right Price/Bargain Game/Switch? quickies.

With the introduction of Double Cross and Do The Math and the reintroduction of Bargain Game, it's really not necessary to add another 2-prizer at this time.

Clock Game had its lowest number of playings ever this past season and Magic # is always underplayed.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: JayDLewis on July 30, 2014, 06:23:37 PM

With the introduction of Double Cross and Do The Math and the reintroduction of Bargain Game, it's really not necessary to add another 2-prizer at this time.

Clock Game had its lowest number of playings ever this past season and Magic # is always underplayed.

Double Cross is a fairly long game, as is Magic # & Clock Game (which is a 3-prizer). I had kind of discounted Do the Math as a 3-prizer but I see your point.

Bump would fit as a fast, 1 decision (50/50) game. Given how tight on time they tend to be "a Bump" might allow more line-ups with longer games.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on August 05, 2014, 12:00:35 PM
By the way, just so we don't create a new thread for this, on August 3, CBS reran the 12/12/13 show where they celebrated Bob Barker's 90th birthday.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on August 05, 2014, 06:48:15 PM
By the way, just so we don't create a new thread for this, on August 3, CBS reran the 12/12/13 show where they celebrated Bob Barker's 90th birthday.

That seems unlikely, given that August 3 was a Sunday.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on August 05, 2014, 10:34:05 PM
By the way, just so we don't create a new thread for this, on August 3, CBS reran the 12/12/13 show where they celebrated Bob Barker's 90th birthday.

That seems unlikely, given that August 3 was a Sunday.

Right you are. That date should be August 4th. Mea culpa.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: The Pyramids on August 06, 2014, 06:24:28 PM
I happened to be home that day and was pleasantly surprised to see it again.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: tvmitch on August 07, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
It's okay for its simplicity, but like you, I think I've only seen it won once or twice. Honestly, I feel the prices are a little too close for you to only get one guess. At least with Five Price Tags you get a couple of chances.

Maybe offer a second chance guess if Drew has indeed gone over, but you only get one shot to decide which price is the one that's over, right then and there. Either that, or reduce how many prices there are...
I think I cracked the code on how to win this game a majority of the time. My daughter and I watch every day and this strategy has worked for most plays. Maybe this is not new to anyone! Anyway. Indulge...

As the prices are revealed, the correct answer is (usually) the price that is revealed AFTER a jump of $2K or more in the thousands digit of the price. There's always a big jump somewhere in the line, and it's not that price, but the one after it that is correct.

Let's take a car of $23,120 in price. Your revealed prices might be $17,889 - $18,511 - $19,432 - $20,794 - $22,509 - $23,411

From what I've observed, the prices are usually set up like this, and the contestant sees the big jump, panics, and stops right there.

Regardless, I'm with Mr. Eberle, the game is overused as a quick car game and it would be nice to see another game pop up to fill the need of giving away your Honda Accords and Chevy Impalas of the world.

Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: MikeK on August 07, 2014, 12:04:31 PM
I think I cracked the code on how to win this game a majority of the time.
Likes that you cracked the code, and without aluminum foil.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/hmtriplecrown/weirdalfoil_zpsb6903dfa.png)
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: clemon79 on August 07, 2014, 12:11:35 PM
What's interesting about your example (which I realize was wholly arbitrary, but the concept applies to the actual game) is that the difference between your "big jump" and the one before it is only about $350. 99 times out of 100 the "big jump" happens because  the previous price was only a couple hundred bucks away from crossing a new threshold of $1,000.

Not saying your theory is wrong, but it would be interesting to see it applied to actual data, and then (ESPECIALLY if the theory proves out) checked to see if the "big jump" in each case really is all that big.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: tvmitch on August 07, 2014, 01:33:30 PM
What's interesting about your example (which I realize was wholly arbitrary, but the concept applies to the actual game) is that the difference between your "big jump" and the one before it is only about $350. 99 times out of 100 the "big jump" happens because  the previous price was only a couple hundred bucks away from crossing a new threshold of $1,000.

Not saying your theory is wrong, but it would be interesting to see it applied to actual data, and then (ESPECIALLY if the theory proves out) checked to see if the "big jump" in each case really is all that big.
I'd like to see it applied to actual data as well...don't have the resources to do so...but I would say that out of the last 10 times I've seen the game, this strategy would have worked for the contestant in at least 7 plays.

I'd posit that the average amount of that "big jump" is in the range of about $1,500 (e.g. $20,8xx to $22,3xx)

With this knowledge, we are finally primed for world domination.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: SRIV94 on August 07, 2014, 01:57:10 PM
What's interesting about your example (which I realize was wholly arbitrary, but the concept applies to the actual game) is that the difference between your "big jump" and the one before it is only about $350. 99 times out of 100 the "big jump" happens because  the previous price was only a couple hundred bucks away from crossing a new threshold of $1,000.

Not saying your theory is wrong, but it would be interesting to see it applied to actual data, and then (ESPECIALLY if the theory proves out) checked to see if the "big jump" in each case really is all that big.
I'd like to see it applied to actual data as well...don't have the resources to do so...but I would say that out of the last 10 times I've seen the game, this strategy would have worked for the contestant in at least 7 plays.

I'd posit that the average amount of that "big jump" is in the range of about $1,500 (e.g. $20,8xx to $22,3xx)

With this knowledge, we are finally primed for world domination.

While I would never base trying to prove or disprove a theory based on one playing, on the 7/2/14 ep (looking it up on g-r.net) you had exactly that situation:  a jump of about $1,500 (from $17,810 to $19,334) and the contestant stopped at the next price ($20,575).  Problem was he stopped two prices short--and the gap between the next two prices was about $1,300 (and the gap before that was about $1,100).  So that's three pretty "big jumps" in one board setup (assuming $1,100 is the smallest typical jump).

Yes, it would be tedious to do, but you can go back to g-r's summaries to see if indeed that was a one-off and the theory still flies, or whether that's a pattern and the contestants kind of have to be lucky.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: TLEberle on August 07, 2014, 02:26:43 PM
I know that they can't do either of these, but I think they're improvements on the original.

One: Instead of choosing the first price that is over the price of the car, stop when the price of the car is revealed.

Two: Have the game start with all of the wrong prices showing, the player has to figure out where the actual price of the car would fall (either by bracketing, or which is the closest price without going over, or the first that is indeed over.)
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: clemon79 on August 07, 2014, 03:00:15 PM
Yes, it would be tedious to do, but you can go back to g-r's summaries to see if indeed that was a one-off and the theory still flies, or whether that's a pattern and the contestants kind of have to be lucky.

One could indeed do this, yes.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on August 07, 2014, 08:30:55 PM
Here's every TTM playing this season. (http://tpirsummaries.8m.com/Season42/PGStats4.html#ttm)

Looking at 30 playings, the two prices before the winning tag only have an increase of two in the thousands digit (ie, $16k - $18k - $19k) three times.  By comparison, the winning tag has an increase of two in the thousands digit over the previous tag (ie, $16k - $17k - $19k) 13 times.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: MSTieScott on August 07, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
I was looking over those stats at the same time you were -- I think you've mixed up which formatting is used for the contestant's stopping point versus where the correct answer is. By my count, Mitch's strategy would have worked 15 out of 30 times (this includes two playings where there was also a large-looking jump very early in the line that a contestant with reasonable pricing skills would realize was still way too low).

What I find interesting is comparing this to the previous season (http://www.tpirsummaries.8m.com/Season41/PGStats4.html#ttm), where that strategy would have worked 0 out of 20 times (that year, the only strategy seemed to be "it's probably either third or fourth").
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on August 07, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
Yep, you're right.  I didn't double-check my work because my results matched my hypothesis.  I somehow got it right when I first checked it, but then reversed it when I went to crunch the numbers.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: clemon79 on August 07, 2014, 10:50:48 PM
Wow. That's awfully damned compelling, then, if you can reduce TTM to a one-in-two shot.

Be interesting to see if this holds up going forward.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: weaklink75 on September 12, 2014, 02:35:08 PM
Well this is a surprise- the game they're rebooting? Time Is Money (great set for it though)...

http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_price_is_right/news_blog/1003121/
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: TLEberle on September 12, 2014, 02:40:38 PM
I have a hard time calling "Time is Money" a classic game, especially when it was last seen more than ten years ago. If they're playing it the way I assume they're playing it, that could be really decent.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Thunder on September 12, 2014, 04:10:16 PM
I'm laughing about the "Flat Yodely Guy" promotion.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Thunder on September 12, 2014, 04:17:01 PM
Wait, what?

Quote
The show, which won its first-ever Daytime Emmy in 2014 for best original song, 30,000 Reasons to Love Me. is broadcast weekdays (check local listings) on the CBS Television Network.

What am I missing here?

EDITED TO ADD: This is for "Let's Make A Deal" but still... original song?
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: chad1m on September 12, 2014, 04:19:06 PM
Wait, what?
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The show, which won its first-ever Daytime Emmy in 2014 for best original song, 30,000 Reasons to Love Me. is broadcast weekdays (check local listings) on the CBS Television Network.
What am I missing here?
Let's Make a Deal (not The Price Is Right) won an Emmy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2ncOyX8oKM
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on September 15, 2014, 12:17:01 AM
Well this is a surprise- the game they're rebooting? Time Is Money (great set for it though)...

http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_price_is_right/news_blog/1003121/

I'll definitely be watching on 9/22 to see this.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: JasonA1 on September 17, 2014, 04:24:28 PM
Here's a preview video (http://t.co/BM1VbwzAqt).

-Jason
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Sodboy13 on September 17, 2014, 11:57:44 PM
Well, this seems a hell of a lot more interesting than the original version. Race Game on methamphetamine.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: weaklink75 on September 23, 2014, 08:08:57 PM
And we were a bit hoodwinked on the set photo that had Clock Game on it...they gave that a new look as well. Looks pretty nice (first playing is on Friday)

here's a preview... (https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/the-price-is-right-clock-game-202037811.html)


Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on September 25, 2014, 11:24:25 AM
I'll be watching for the new Clock Game. Also, in Contestant's Row, I find the bids on the third box going left to right (the yellow one) harder to read than the others.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: alfonzos on September 25, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
Grocery Game + Bonkers! = Time is Money.

FWIW, I like the new presentation and gameplay. I look forward to watching the contestant who, after having a very rough round, walks away with $8.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: TLEberle on September 25, 2014, 11:22:37 PM
I look forward to watching the contestant who, after having a very rough round, walks away with $8.
This is precisely what I don't like about the countdown clock; are we supposed to cheer because the right answer, or aww because she won eight dollars and not twenty grand?
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: CeleTheRef on September 26, 2014, 04:53:49 AM
they could use a "house minimum" rule like: if you win less than $1000 then you win $1000
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on October 02, 2014, 11:54:05 AM
Time is Money was played for the second time on the show that aired October 1st

The contestant won $15,836.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on October 04, 2014, 09:46:39 AM
The new Clock Game had its second playing on October 3

The lady won both prizes in 18 seconds and got a trip to Sonoma Valley as well.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on October 13, 2014, 01:06:08 AM
October 13th starts "Dream Car Week" on TPIR. Drew made an announcement at the end of Friday's 10/10 show.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Fedya on October 13, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
Does this mean more games played for cars that aren't normally played for cars?

Does this mean less Plinko?  (Somehow, I doubt that.)
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on October 13, 2014, 10:17:12 AM
Does this mean more games played for cars that aren't normally played for cars?

Does this mean less Plinko?  (Somehow, I doubt that.)

During one game on each show a "dream car" will be offered. I'm figuring it's games that normally feature a car. My guess is Golden Road and Three Strikes will be two of the games this week.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: TLEberle on October 13, 2014, 04:01:10 PM
I suspect that we will be treated to Sucky Seven, Three Strikes, Temptation and whatever other tough car games are in the rotation to make sure that not too many dream cars re won.
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: Bryce L. on October 13, 2014, 04:40:24 PM
I suspect that we will be treated to Sucky Seven, Three Strikes, Temptation and whatever other tough car games are in the rotation to make sure that not too many dream cars re won.
You're one for three so far...
Title: Re: TPIR Season 43 news...
Post by: BillCullen1 on October 15, 2014, 10:21:50 AM
The latest - the Golden Road site reports that two weeks of tapings for TPIR have been cancelled due to Drew's neck surgery. The Halloween show this year will be a repeat.