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Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: gsfan85 on November 08, 2013, 08:28:23 PM

Hi everyone,


 


I just had a look at the PDF\'s for around Thanksgiving for GSN, and it looks like Syndicated $ale of the Century is coming, with an 8 episode marathon on Black Friday!


 


https://workspaces.acrobat.com/app.html#d=-XbCvwN2hqclMLwVL416Qg


 


It also appears that a Family Feud marathon on Thanksgiving will feature literally every version of the show.


 


Some great classic game show news!


-Adam


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Bryce L. on November 08, 2013, 08:39:59 PM

Unless I\'m much mistaken, this will be the first time a Louie Anderson episode of Feud will have aired on GSN, correct?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: jimlangefan on November 08, 2013, 09:13:59 PM


Hi everyone,


 


I just had a look at the PDF\'s for around Thanksgiving for GSN, and it looks like Syndicated $ale of the Century is coming, with an 8 episode marathon on Black Friday!


 


https://workspaces.acrobat.com/app.html#d=-XbCvwN2hqclMLwVL416Qg


 


It also appears that a Family Feud marathon on Thanksgiving will feature literally every version of the show.


 


Some great classic game show news!


-Adam




Not only is it the syndicated episodes, it\'s the first 8 of them!!  I know GSN leases episodes for specials, but is $ale doing well enough that we could see a new lease come next April or so?


 


Also of note, that Saturday, GSN is airing the final episode of Password Plus as well.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: BrandonFG on November 08, 2013, 10:53:36 PM


Unless I\'m much mistaken, this will be the first time a Louie Anderson episode of Feud will have aired on GSN, correct?




As far as I know, yes.


 


Pretty cool that a game show centered around shopping is airing on the biggest shopping day of the year. Nice work GSN...

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 08, 2013, 10:58:57 PM


 


Not only is it the syndicated episodes, it\'s the first 8 of them!!

 




 


Wait, GSN has access to the first syndicated season of Sale of the Century?  Oh, lordy, this could be embarrassing...

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Bryce L. on November 08, 2013, 11:22:58 PM


 




 


Not only is it the syndicated episodes, it\'s the first 8 of them!!

 




 


Wait, GSN has access to the first syndicated season of Sale of the Century?  Oh, lordy, this could be embarrassing...


 




Not that embarrassing, I thought you played a competitive game that day...

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: jimlangefan on November 08, 2013, 11:25:54 PM


 




 


Not only is it the syndicated episodes, it\'s the first 8 of them!!

 




 


Wait, GSN has access to the first syndicated season of Sale of the Century?  Oh, lordy, this could be embarrassing...


 




 


Unless GSN starts airing the syndie episodes permanently, you don\'t have to worry, lol. I thought you did pretty good as well.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: SRIV94 on November 09, 2013, 12:01:25 AM


 


Also of note, that Saturday, GSN is airing the final episode of Password Plus as well.


 




Odd that they\'re going back from 801 (the final ep) to 790 (from just a couple of weeks before).  Did GSN not air that week in their current run?

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: jjman920 on November 09, 2013, 01:09:15 AM

Wow. GSN has been on FIRE these past two years. They\'ve seemingly found a great medium/in-between of classic acquisitions, modern acquisitions, and originals. Yeah, Family Feud over-saturated the schedule, but they\'ve made some great decisions otherwise. Their marathons have been great. The Dick Clark Memorial Marathon, The Richard Dawson Memorial Marathon with an episode of FF \'94, and The Match Game Anniversary Christmas Marathon with MG \'98 and a Convy pilot. It\'s just such a joy to watch the network now. A feeling I haven\'t had since 2009.


 


I can\'t wait to see Anderson FF. I don\'t think I\'ve seen an episode on actual television in at least eight years. And this will the first time Ray Combs\' Feud will be on the network in quite some time. And again, it will be great to see more episodes of Sale of the Century in broadcast quality for the first time in 20 years (or round about).


 


I hope they do the What\'s My Line?/I\'ve Got a Secret block again this December and I can\'t wait to see what they do for Christmas. It might be special, it might not be, but the network has gained my interest and that\'s the important part. Next thing you know, we\'ll be hearing about Tattletales coming back to the network.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Craig Karlberg on November 09, 2013, 03:09:33 AM

I wish Comcast hadn\'t dropped the analog GSN channel.  Just when it\'s starting to get good again.  How coincidental that GSN will air Syndie $ale on Black Friday.  As far as Matt O\'s concerned, he can rest easy knowing this will be the first 8 syndie episodes.


 


If GSN can surprise us with MG last Christmas, why not some Tattletales \'74 this Christmas with a pilot or two?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: WarioBarker on November 09, 2013, 03:52:32 AM
Interesting that nighttime Sale used the same production code style as nighttime Wheel.

Unless I'm much mistaken, this will be the first time a Louie Anderson episode of Feud will have aired on GSN, correct?
I'm pretty sure it is, yes. I'm pretty sure it's also the first time GSN's going to be airing an Al Roker episode.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: JMFabiano on November 09, 2013, 04:35:46 AM

Interesting...all celebrity versions too, it looks like.  Only Harvey doesn\'t have one....but then again, all they have to pick from would be:


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9VGGrhH7M8


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 09, 2013, 05:35:57 AM


Interesting...all celebrity versions too, it looks like.  Only Harvey doesn\'t have one....but then again, all they have to pick from would be:

 




Except not.


/GSG and the GSF still don\'t mix

//you think we\'d realize that by now
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: catnap1972 on November 09, 2013, 07:29:46 AM

For all we know they might have a new lease of $ale ready to go on December 2nd and this is just a teaser.  When you think about it, why would they put 8 new (to you) episodes on for a marathon when they had 13 weeks they could\'ve easily used?


 




 



Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: The Pyramids on November 09, 2013, 11:46:02 AM


Unless I\'m much mistaken, this will be the first time a Louie Anderson episode of Feud will have aired on GSN, correct?




Yes. I suspect like their one airing of \'Match Game \'98\' last Christmas it does not mean they are contemplating putting it on regularly. 

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: snowpeck on November 09, 2013, 01:36:01 PM


 




Unless I\'m much mistaken, this will be the first time a Louie Anderson episode of Feud will have aired on GSN, correct?




Yes. I suspect like their one airing of \'Match Game \'98\' last Christmas it does not mean they are contemplating putting it on regularly. 


 




Lord, let\'s hope not. Although, I can certainly see them adding syndie $OTC at some point. The 88/89 episodes seemed to have done well enough in the ratings to warrant an additional pickup (and by some accounts, the syndie run was the only other option for additional episodes.)

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Bryce L. on November 09, 2013, 02:14:29 PM


 




 




Unless I\'m much mistaken, this will be the first time a Louie Anderson episode of Feud will have aired on GSN, correct?




Yes. I suspect like their one airing of \'Match Game \'98\' last Christmas it does not mean they are contemplating putting it on regularly. 


 




Lord, let\'s hope not. Although, I can certainly see them adding syndie $OTC at some point. The 88/89 episodes seemed to have done well enough in the ratings to warrant an additional pickup (and by some accounts, the syndie run was the only other option for additional episodes.)


 




I thought that whole \"Everything of daytime Sale before Fall \'88 was wiped\" rumor was pretty much debunked at some point...

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: snowpeck on November 09, 2013, 02:20:31 PM


 


I thought that whole \"Everything of daytime Sale before Fall \'88 was wiped\" rumor was pretty much debunked at some point...


 




The source of the rumor was someone who actually worked on the show (the late Mitt Dawson) and all anybody else could come up with for the other side was that they doubted its validity. There\'s never been any proof one way or the other.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 09, 2013, 04:15:53 PM

The first time I ever got to watch a taping of a game show from in the booth was an episode of Louie\'s Feud.  Lord, what a surly, surly man.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Johnissoevil on November 09, 2013, 07:04:05 PM

Thanksgiving:  Will definitely fire up the DVR for the Dawson and Combs episodes.  I\'d fire it up for the O\'Hurley episodes, too, but that\'s already on there regularly, and Harvey is on there all the time.  Anderson and Karn...bleh.


 


Black Friday:  Thank you for this great treat, GSN.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 09, 2013, 10:36:02 PM


 




 


I thought that whole \"Everything of daytime Sale before Fall \'88 was wiped\" rumor was pretty much debunked at some point...


 




The source of the rumor was someone who actually worked on the show (the late Mitt Dawson) and all anybody else could come up with for the other side was that they doubted its validity. There\'s never been any proof one way or the other.


 




For what it\'s worth, every single episode of $ale\'s sister show, Scrabble, exists. Both 1984-1990 and 1993 runs.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Bryce L. on November 09, 2013, 11:17:13 PM


 




 




 


I thought that whole \"Everything of daytime Sale before Fall \'88 was wiped\" rumor was pretty much debunked at some point...


 




The source of the rumor was someone who actually worked on the show (the late Mitt Dawson) and all anybody else could come up with for the other side was that they doubted its validity. There\'s never been any proof one way or the other.


 




For what it\'s worth, every single episode of $ale\'s sister show, Scrabble, exists. Both 1984-1990 and 1993 runs.


, every single episode of $ale\'s sister show, Scrabble, exists. Both 1984-1990 and 1993 runs.


 




I personally made that same argument when this topic came up on a Facebook discussion group I\'m in... why would Grundy keep one show and not the other?

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: TLEberle on November 10, 2013, 01:42:03 AM

Oh, lordy, this could be embarrassing...

No more so than Jenningspardy, respectfully.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: MikeK on November 10, 2013, 09:55:04 AM


Also of note, that Saturday, GSN is airing the final episode of Password Plus as well.


Odd that they\'re going back from 801 (the final ep) to 790 (from just a couple of weeks before).  Did GSN not air that week in their current run?

If 790 is the last ep. from the Jack Narz/Steven Ford week, it just aired on October 19.  The Narz/Ford week was shown in its entirety.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: snowpeck on November 10, 2013, 12:46:10 PM


 



 



Also of note, that Saturday, GSN is airing the final episode of Password Plus as well.



Odd that they\'re going back from 801 (the final ep) to 790 (from just a couple of weeks before).  Did GSN not air that week in their current run?

If 790 is the last ep. from the Jack Narz/Steven Ford week, it just aired on October 19. The Narz/Ford week was shown in its entirety.

 




The PDF lists it as Edie McClurg/Gene Rayburn.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: MikeK on November 10, 2013, 03:43:44 PM


 




 



 



Also of note, that Saturday, GSN is airing the final episode of Password Plus as well.



Odd that they\'re going back from 801 (the final ep) to 790 (from just a couple of weeks before).  Did GSN not air that week in their current run?

If 790 is the last ep. from the Jack Narz/Steven Ford week, it just aired on October 19. The Narz/Ford week was shown in its entirety.

 




The PDF lists it as Edie McClurg/Gene Rayburn.


 




Going through my DVR, this makes some sense.  GSN showed 6 eps. with McClurg and Rayburn, starting on 10/20.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: cyclone45 on November 10, 2013, 09:19:50 PM

Interesting to note, is that Buzzerblog hasn\'t reported this huge news yet. Alex is usually right on top of this!


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 10, 2013, 09:25:37 PM


Interesting to note, is that Buzzerblog hasn\'t reported this huge news yet. Alex is usually right on top of this!




It\'s not really huge news though.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 10, 2013, 09:32:30 PM


 




 




 




I thought that whole \"Everything of daytime Sale before Fall \'88 was wiped\" rumor was pretty much debunked at some point...




The source of the rumor was someone who actually worked on the show (the late Mitt Dawson) and all anybody else could come up with for the other side was that they doubted its validity. There\'s never been any proof one way or the other.




For what it\'s worth, every single episode of $ale\'s sister show, Scrabble, exists. Both 1984-1990 and 1993 runs.


, every single episode of $ale\'s sister show, Scrabble, exists. Both 1984-1990 and 1993 runs.




I personally made that same argument when this topic came up on a Facebook discussion group I\'m in... why would Grundy keep one show and not the other?




 


I guess it\'s just one of life\'s mysteries that will remain unsolved forever.


 


But you know what? I just don\'t care anymore if Mitt Dawson was correct in his statement or not. After hearing about the entire 1983-1984 Dream House run destroyed in a flood, I have pretty much moved on from that phase. To quote the title of a popular Beatles song, \"Let it Be\".


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: TLEberle on November 10, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
He must not be a master.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: JMFabiano on November 10, 2013, 09:40:05 PM


 




 




 



 



Also of note, that Saturday, GSN is airing the final episode of Password Plus as well.



Odd that they\'re going back from 801 (the final ep) to 790 (from just a couple of weeks before).  Did GSN not air that week in their current run?

If 790 is the last ep. from the Jack Narz/Steven Ford week, it just aired on October 19. The Narz/Ford week was shown in its entirety.

 




The PDF lists it as Edie McClurg/Gene Rayburn.


 




Going through my DVR, this makes some sense.  GSN showed 6 eps. with McClurg and Rayburn, starting on 10/20.


 




Didn\'t this lease start with White/Philbin (Sajak?)? 

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: cyclone45 on November 10, 2013, 11:27:43 PM


 



Interesting to note, is that Buzzerblog hasn\'t reported this huge news yet. Alex is usually right on top of this!





It\'s not really huge news though.

 




How could Syndie $otc NOT be huge news, PYLdude?

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: gamed121683 on November 10, 2013, 11:37:57 PM


 




 




 




 




I thought that whole \"Everything of daytime Sale before Fall \'88 was wiped\" rumor was pretty much debunked at some point...




The source of the rumor was someone who actually worked on the show (the late Mitt Dawson) and all anybody else could come up with for the other side was that they doubted its validity. There\'s never been any proof one way or the other.




For what it\'s worth, every single episode of $ale\'s sister show, Scrabble, exists. Both 1984-1990 and 1993 runs.


, every single episode of $ale\'s sister show, Scrabble, exists. Both 1984-1990 and 1993 runs.




I personally made that same argument when this topic came up on a Facebook discussion group I\'m in... why would Grundy keep one show and not the other?




 


I guess it\'s just one of life\'s mysteries that will remain unsolved forever.


 


But you know what? I just don\'t care anymore if Mitt Dawson was correct in his statement or not. After hearing about the entire 1983-1984 Dream House run destroyed in a flood, I have pretty much moved on from that phase. To quote the title of a popular Beatles song, \"Let it Be\".


 




 


+1. Let\'s just be thankful for what we\'ve got.


 


/\"Diamond in the back, sunroof top, diggin\' the scene with a gangsta lean, wooh-ooh-ooh...\"


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: BrandonFG on November 10, 2013, 11:45:50 PM





Interesting to note, is that Buzzerblog hasn\'t reported this huge news yet. Alex is usually right on top of this!



It\'s not really huge news though.


How could Syndie $otc NOT be huge news, PYLdude?




You really have a tendency to get worked up over the slightest thing. GSN announcing that they picked up the show itself (or the last six months of it) was a big deal, considering it hadn\'t aired on TV anywhere in close to 20 years. Them uncovering another season is nice, but is not earth-shattering breaking news.


 


Let Alex do his job and he\'ll report it when he\'s ready...I\'m pretty sure he knows what he\'s doing.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 11, 2013, 01:02:19 AM

Mr. Ottinger, what was the number of the episode you were on of this edition?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: cyclone45 on November 11, 2013, 02:03:32 AM


 







Interesting to note, is that Buzzerblog hasn\'t reported this huge news yet. Alex is usually right on top of this!



It\'s not really huge news though.


How could Syndie $otc NOT be huge news, PYLdude?




You really have a tendency to get worked up over the slightest thing. GSN announcing that they picked up the show itself (or the last six months of it) was a big deal, considering it hadn\'t aired on TV anywhere in close to 20 years. Them uncovering another season is nice, but is not earth-shattering breaking news.


 


Let Alex do his job and he\'ll report it when he\'s ready...I\'m pretty sure he knows what he\'s doing




Sigh, I suppose one man\'s \"meh\" is another man\'s excitement, as the expression goes. I\'m STOKED over this, as we haven\'t seen shopping or winner\'s board $otC since, what, \'88? There\'s a reason I get worked up, but I really would rather discuss that in PM, if you don\'t mind.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 11, 2013, 03:30:44 AM



 


Interesting to note, is that Buzzerblog hasn\'t reported this huge news yet. Alex is usually right on top of this!


It\'s not really huge news though.

 

How could Syndie $otc NOT be huge news, PYLdude?



If it was picking up the full run it\'s good news. But it isn\'t a big story any way you slice it. Now if there were episodes that miraculously resurfaced from the 1970s then it\'d be big news. But not this.


Would I like to see those shows again? I haven\'t in 20 years so sure. But I\'m not gonna cream my jeans over it.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: jjman920 on November 11, 2013, 09:28:02 AM

To be honest, this is a huge news story. Not just because it\'s Syndie Sale though, but because it is GSN\'s Thanksgiving plans. You could even add on top of it that Ray Combs will return for two airings and Louie Anderson will be on for the first time. All of that combined makes it a huge story (in terms of our microcosm).


 


However, there\'s a little over two weeks left until Thanksgiving. He\'s got plenty of time to report and of course he\'s going to because he usually writes about GSN\'s holiday marathon plans. I\'m sure he\'s aware and I\'m sure he\'s on it.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Matt Ottinger on November 11, 2013, 11:09:36 AM


Mr. Ottinger, what was the number of the episode you were on of this edition?




 


I have no idea.  It was in the final week of the first syndicated season.  They weren\'t sure yet at the time about a renewal, so they made a point to tell us that whoever won Friday\'s show was free to say that he wanted to play on (this of course was the shopping era), but that if the show ended up not returning, that player would receive the prize associated with whatever level he had reached.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: BillCullen1 on November 11, 2013, 12:31:15 PM
IIRC, syndie SOTC did not air in the NYC area during its original run. I\'m curious to see what they did to make the syndie different from the daytime version.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: JMFabiano on November 11, 2013, 01:38:22 PM


IIRC, syndie SOTC did not air in the NYC area during its original run. I\'m curious to see what they did to make the syndie different from the daytime version.




 


I remember it being on WABC and (W)WOR for a while...am I wrong, though?

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 11, 2013, 01:42:06 PM

A list of things that distinguish the Daytime edition from the Syndicated one:


 


http://www.gameshowf...showtopic=24654


 


Most importantly, was the shopping round. On the daytime show, the second-to-last level was strictly the growing cash jackpot (started at $50,000, increased by $1,000 each time it was not claimed); the Syndicated show had all the prizes, except for the cash jackpot on that same level. The Syndicated show got it right; why they daytime show didn\'t do the same is beyond me.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: TLEberle on November 11, 2013, 02:02:25 PM

The Syndicated show got it right; why they daytime show didn\'t do the same is beyond me.

That\'s certainly your opinion. I bet the daytime contestants who scooped a cash jackpot liked the daytime prize path.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: aaron sica on November 11, 2013, 05:42:28 PM


 




IIRC, syndie SOTC did not air in the NYC area during its original run. I\'m curious to see what they did to make the syndie different from the daytime version.




 


I remember it being on WABC and (W)WOR for a while...am I wrong, though?


 




No, I don\'t think you are........I\'m thinking that it aired on one of the slots during the 4-5pm hour on WABC, and (W)WOR I seem to remember aired it at 8:30pm, after their 8pm news..

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 11, 2013, 06:20:14 PM

When Syndie $ale began on January 7, 1985, it was seen on 24 different stations. WXYZ-TV Detroit was one of them.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 11, 2013, 08:49:50 PM



 



IIRC, syndie SOTC did not air in the NYC area during its original run. I\'m curious to see what they did to make the syndie different from the daytime version.


 

I remember it being on WABC and (W)WOR for a while...am I wrong, though?

 

No, I don\'t think you are........I\'m thinking that it aired on one of the slots during the 4-5pm hour on WABC, and (W)WOR I seem to remember aired it at 8:30pm, after their 8pm news..



Yes. 8:30 on channel 9 and 4:30 on channel 7.


There\'s at least one ad WABC put out to promote its pickup of Sale on YouTube. I\'m not sure whose page it was on though.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: SuperMatch93 on November 11, 2013, 10:55:44 PM
I was looking through some old Chicago Tribune TV listing pages on ProQuest earlier and I noticed that syndie Sale ran at 11:30pm on WLS. I wonder if any other markets ran it late.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 12, 2013, 09:30:12 PM

One thing I\'ve been trying to figure out regarding this edition is the airdates for both first-run episodes, and reruns. I think these might be it, but I\'m not sure.


 


January 7-June 14, 1985 (Season 1 First-Run)

June 17-September 13, 1985 (Season 1 Reruns)

September 16, 1985-June 13, 1986 (Season 2 First-Run)

June 16-September 12, 1986 (Season 2 Reruns)


 


An Issue of Broadcasting Magazine said that the Courtroom Drama, The Judge (also from Genesis Entertainment), would debut on local stations on September 15, 1986. This is just speculation, but I believe The Judge may have replaced $ale on the stations that were still carrying it.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 12, 2013, 10:00:32 PM


One thing I\'ve been trying to figure out regarding this edition is the airdates for both first-run episodes, and reruns. I think these might be it, but I\'m not sure.

 

January 7-June 14, 1985 (Season 1 First-Run)

June 17-September 13, 1985 (Season 1 Reruns)

September 16, 1985-June 13, 1986 (Season 2 First-Run)

June 16-September 12, 1986 (Season 2 Reruns)

 

An Issue of Broadcasting Magazine said that the Courtroom Drama, The Judge (also from Genesis Entertainment), would debut on local stations on September 15, 1986. This is just speculation, but I believe The Judge may have replaced $ale on the stations that were still carrying it.




I\'d say it\'s pretty speculative. At least here, where Sale was replaced by Card Sharks.


And wasn\'t Sale in first run the whole time? Wouldn\'t make a whole lot of sense for it not to be considering the way the show was structured.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Bryce L. on November 13, 2013, 03:13:47 AM


 



One thing I\'ve been trying to figure out regarding this edition is the airdates for both first-run episodes, and reruns. I think these might be it, but I\'m not sure.

 

January 7-June 14, 1985 (Season 1 First-Run)

June 17-September 13, 1985 (Season 1 Reruns)

September 16, 1985-June 13, 1986 (Season 2 First-Run)

June 16-September 12, 1986 (Season 2 Reruns)

 

An Issue of Broadcasting Magazine said that the Courtroom Drama, The Judge (also from Genesis Entertainment), would debut on local stations on September 15, 1986. This is just speculation, but I believe The Judge may have replaced $ale on the stations that were still carrying it.





I\'d say it\'s pretty speculative. At least here, where Sale was replaced by Card Sharks.


And wasn\'t Sale in first run the whole time? Wouldn\'t make a whole lot of sense for it not to be considering the way the show was structured.

 




To me, Matt\'s wording seems to imply there was a break between the first and second seasons... the dates are speculative, I concede that, but I\'d bet there WAS some kind of break over the summer...

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 13, 2013, 04:05:34 AM
But here\'s why I don\'t think they could have had a break. It all has to do with continuity.


Let\'s say the season did end in May/June and you have a champion who hasn\'t won enough to compile the $750 needed to take down the lot. Why break then and wait until September to finish, knowing you don\'t have anything to plug in there but reruns of other normal shows? The daytime Sale could afford to do that because they did a few tourneys and special episodes that they could\'ve reran. The syndie show really didn\'t have that kind of luxury to fall back on. To me you\'re just going to confuse too many people for it to be worth the trouble.


If I\'m wrong so be it, but I can\'t see how it would\'ve done anybody any favors to put Sale in reruns at the end of the first four months it was on.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: snowpeck on November 13, 2013, 07:04:09 AM


But here\'s why I don\'t think they could have had a break. It all has to do with continuity.


Let\'s say the season did end in May/June and you have a champion who hasn\'t won enough to compile the $750 needed to take down the lot. Why break then and wait until September to finish, knowing you don\'t have anything to plug in there but reruns of other normal shows? The daytime Sale could afford to do that because they did a few tourneys and special episodes that they could\'ve reran. The syndie show really didn\'t have that kind of luxury to fall back on. To me you\'re just going to confuse too many people for it to be worth the trouble.


If I\'m wrong so be it, but I can\'t see how it would\'ve done anybody any favors to put Sale in reruns at the end of the first four months it was on.




Going by some Variety articles on Proquest, the initial deal was 20 weeks\' worth of episodes with 16 weeks of repeats, which Genesis and Colbert Sales ponied up $2.73 million to cover production costs and didn\'t quite make back. They certainly couldn\'t have afforded a full 36 weeks of originals, so I would hardly call repeats a luxury. A syndicator isn\'t going to care about continuity. Their concern is the cash flow.


 


Most stations starting running the show on January 7. That calculation would mean the first season ended on May 24 and the second season started on September 16.


 


The major problem Sale faced was the fact that NBC would only allow Genesis to sell it in prime access slots. That meant not many stations would have openings in their schedules and the ones that did would be putting it up against shows like Wheel or Jeopardy. When Sale was renewed for a second season Genesis got NBC to concede to allowing it to air in the early-fringe hours in 12 test markets in an effort to boost clearances and ratings.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 13, 2013, 11:17:28 AM

Trading sites like Ryan Rinkerman\'s for example list Tim Holleran\'s last episode as June 4, 1985. No idea where that came from.


 


http://www.angelfire.com/planet/rinkerman/S-U.html


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: snowpeck on November 13, 2013, 11:37:02 AM


Trading sites like Ryan Rinkerman\'s for example list Tim Holleran\'s last episode as June 4, 1985. No idea where that came from.


 


http://www.angelfire.com/planet/rinkerman/S-U.html




Perhaps the station that aired it didn\'t start the series on January 7. One Variety article said \"some stations\" were starting the show as early as that date, but that statement leaves speculation open that some stations started it later. It could also be from a repeat airing, though honestly I don\'t know where in the first season Tim\'s episodes fall.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 13, 2013, 03:42:45 PM

I have a childhood memory regarding Syndie $ale that I would like to share.


 


In 1993, I was a 6-year-old kid, and USA Network was showing reruns of the show. Now at the time, I didn\'t know that it was reruns of the 80\'s series, nor did I know that it lasted from 1983-1989, and that the only thing they ever showed of this series was the last few months of the daytime edition from 1988-1989, and the entire 1985-1986 Syndicated one. After they showed the last few months, the series came on one day, and I remember thinking to myself \"Why did they change the music? And why is the endgame different?\". Their one and only cycle of the Syndicated edition ended in 1994. Just as they started giving those last few daytime months another cycle, they completely dropped it.


 


It was the same story with when the 1983 episodes of Press Your Luck debuted on USA Network in 1992. I was like \"What the hell? Why did they change Rod Roddy\'s opening? And why does the set look a little different?\". For many of the game shows on USA Network, I actually thought they were brand new episodes.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: JMFabiano on November 13, 2013, 04:01:52 PM


I have a childhood memory regarding Syndie $ale that I would like to share.


 


In 1993, I was a 6-year-old kid, and USA Network was showing reruns of the show. Now at the time, I didn\'t know that it was reruns of the 80\'s series, nor did I know that it lasted from 1983-1989, and that the only thing they ever showed of this series was the last few months of the daytime edition from 1988-1989, and the entire 1985-1986 Syndicated one. After they showed the last few months, the series came on one day, and I remember thinking to myself \"Why did they change the music? And why is the endgame different?\". Their one and only cycle of the Syndicated edition ended in 1994. Just as they started giving those last few daytime months another cycle, they completely dropped it.


 


It was the same story with when the 1983 episodes of Press Your Luck debuted on USA Network in 1992. I was like \"What the hell? Why did they change Rod Roddy\'s opening? And why does the set look a little different?\". For many of the game shows on USA Network, I actually thought they were brand new episodes.




 


How far back did they go with 1983 PYL\'s? 

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: clemon79 on November 13, 2013, 04:02:29 PM

I am genuinely curious to know why you wanted to share that.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 13, 2013, 04:05:01 PM


I am genuinely curious to know why you wanted to share that.




Just wanted to see if anyone else here had one. Nothing more.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: clemon79 on November 13, 2013, 04:11:03 PM


 


Just wanted to see if anyone else here had one. Nothing more.




 


All right then.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Bryce L. on November 13, 2013, 04:27:35 PM


 




I have a childhood memory regarding Syndie $ale that I would like to share.


 


In 1993, I was a 6-year-old kid, and USA Network was showing reruns of the show. Now at the time, I didn\'t know that it was reruns of the 80\'s series, nor did I know that it lasted from 1983-1989, and that the only thing they ever showed of this series was the last few months of the daytime edition from 1988-1989, and the entire 1985-1986 Syndicated one. After they showed the last few months, the series came on one day, and I remember thinking to myself \"Why did they change the music? And why is the endgame different?\". Their one and only cycle of the Syndicated edition ended in 1994. Just as they started giving those last few daytime months another cycle, they completely dropped it.


 


It was the same story with when the 1983 episodes of Press Your Luck debuted on USA Network in 1992. I was like \"What the hell? Why did they change Rod Roddy\'s opening? And why does the set look a little different?\". For many of the game shows on USA Network, I actually thought they were brand new episodes.




 


How far back did they go with 1983 PYL\'s? 


 




From what I\'ve heard, about as early as in the third week or so on the air... I don\'t think USA ever showed Randy West\'s episodes... going in the other direction, how far forward did they get into the 1986 shows? I don\'t think they ran any of the Sept. \'86 shows...

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: irismason42 on November 13, 2013, 04:55:44 PM


 




I have a childhood memory regarding Syndie $ale that I would like to share.


 


In 1993, I was a 6-year-old kid, and USA Network was showing reruns of the show. Now at the time, I didn\'t know that it was reruns of the 80\'s series, nor did I know that it lasted from 1983-1989, and that the only thing they ever showed of this series was the last few months of the daytime edition from 1988-1989, and the entire 1985-1986 Syndicated one. After they showed the last few months, the series came on one day, and I remember thinking to myself \"Why did they change the music? And why is the endgame different?\". Their one and only cycle of the Syndicated edition ended in 1994. Just as they started giving those last few daytime months another cycle, they completely dropped it.


 


It was the same story with when the 1983 episodes of Press Your Luck debuted on USA Network in 1992. I was like \"What the hell? Why did they change Rod Roddy\'s opening? And why does the set look a little different?\". For many of the game shows on USA Network, I actually thought they were brand new episodes.




 


How far back did they go with 1983 PYL\'s? 


 




The earliest episode that USA reran was the October 5, 1983 episode(the first episode with the red windows behind the audience IIRC).

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: tyshaun1 on November 13, 2013, 05:11:34 PM


 




How far back did they go with 1983 PYL\'s? 


 




From what I\'ve heard, about as early as in the third week or so on the air... I don\'t think USA ever showed Randy West\'s episodes... going in the other direction, how far forward did they get into the 1986 shows? I don\'t think they ran any of the Sept. \'86 shows...


 




Your \'83 recollection is right, as well as your \'86 one. USA aired about 650 episodes of the 760-ish they produced. There are still a handful of episodes that have yet to be reran.


 


Tyshaun


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Bryce L. on November 13, 2013, 05:36:52 PM


 




 




I have a childhood memory regarding Syndie $ale that I would like to share.


 


In 1993, I was a 6-year-old kid, and USA Network was showing reruns of the show. Now at the time, I didn\'t know that it was reruns of the 80\'s series, nor did I know that it lasted from 1983-1989, and that the only thing they ever showed of this series was the last few months of the daytime edition from 1988-1989, and the entire 1985-1986 Syndicated one. After they showed the last few months, the series came on one day, and I remember thinking to myself \"Why did they change the music? And why is the endgame different?\". Their one and only cycle of the Syndicated edition ended in 1994. Just as they started giving those last few daytime months another cycle, they completely dropped it.


 


It was the same story with when the 1983 episodes of Press Your Luck debuted on USA Network in 1992. I was like \"What the hell? Why did they change Rod Roddy\'s opening? And why does the set look a little different?\". For many of the game shows on USA Network, I actually thought they were brand new episodes.




 


How far back did they go with 1983 PYL\'s? 


 




The earliest episode that USA reran was the October 5, 1983 episode(the first episode with the red windows behind the audience IIRC).


 




You remember correctly, since I just checked my copies of October 4 and 5, 1983... October 4 still has the purple windows behind the audience, and October 5 has the red ones.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Sodboy13 on November 13, 2013, 06:09:29 PM


I was looking through some old Chicago Tribune TV listing pages on ProQuest earlier and I noticed that syndie Sale ran at 11:30pm on WLS. I wonder if any other markets ran it late.




Later on, WLS used that timeslot for Davidson Squares. I think they used it for Headline Chasers at some point, too. I remember distinctly staying up late for Squares as a kid (obviously not a school night) and getting the Ted Koppel \"I\'d like to inform our affiliates we\'ll be running late\" buzzkill.


 


Looking back on it, as the 8-year-old in 1987 who was the only one in the house who knew how to program the VCR, I really whiffed on an opportunity. Oh well. Summers, vacations, and days off tided me over.

 

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: JMFabiano on November 13, 2013, 06:57:00 PM

And while we are talking about syndication and PYL, did the NY market get the Republic package of reruns ever? 


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 13, 2013, 06:59:12 PM


And while we are talking about syndication and PYL, did the NY market get the Republic package of reruns ever? 




 


No, and I doubt the Los Angeles market got it, either. It was only intended for stations that never carried the series during its original run. So in those markets, it was treated as a \"new series\".


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: snowpeck on November 13, 2013, 07:27:53 PM

Which brings up something interesting I ran across while researching Sale. I wasn\'t aware that Golden West tried to pitch a nighttime version of PYL for fall \'85. The idea was abandoned because the prime access field was too crowded and CBS wouldn\'t allow it to run in any other daypart.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: tyshaun1 on November 13, 2013, 07:31:11 PM


Which brings up something interesting I ran across while researching Sale. I wasn\'t aware that Golden West tried to pitch a nighttime version of PYL for fall \'85. The idea was abandoned because the prime access field was too crowded and CBS wouldn\'t allow it to run in any other daypart.




Yep.... in fact, the only reason $ale got on is because they started it in January. Golden West wanted to start PYL in March 1985, but by time they made that call, it was too late.


 


Tyshaun

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Bryce L. on November 13, 2013, 08:07:06 PM

Hmm... if this nighttime PYL had gotten the green light, would there have likely been much different from the daytime series, other than possibly a higher prize budget?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: aaron sica on November 13, 2013, 08:25:01 PM


Hmm... if this nighttime PYL had gotten the green light, would there have likely been much different from the daytime series, other than possibly a higher prize budget?




I can\'t imagine any money spaces being any higher than $5,000....Using WoF as comparison its highest money value was $5,000 as well. \"$10,000 + A SPIN\" might have been too much. I\'m thinking higher-end prizes too..

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 13, 2013, 08:34:59 PM
As I\'ve said a few times, WABC adding Sale was just one in the long line of one-season wonders or short lived series that they paired Jeopardy! with after they picked it up at midseason year one.


I think the longest overall pairing was with Entertainment Tonight, with which it shared the slot for two years in between the shuffling of Squares to WPIX and the acquisition of Wheel from WCBS. IIRC it was Name That Tune first, then Divorce Court (which moved to WCBS the next year), then Sale, then Card Sharks, then Split Second when Oprah got the 4:00 slot, then Squares when it initially moved to 7:00 in \'87 (they\'d been airing Squares at 7:30 since its debut).


I\'m actually curious to see what happened to ET after WABC dropped it. It airs on WCBS now but I don\'t think it picked it up right away once Wheel moved. While I seem to remember somebody posting a video on YouTube that showed it airing on WNBC at 4:30 for a brief period in 1991, I think that\'s fake because channel 4 was still airing Donahue in the 4:00 slot.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: aaron sica on November 13, 2013, 08:39:45 PM


I\'m actually curious to see what happened to ET after WABC dropped it. It airs on WCBS now but I don\'t think it picked it up right away once Wheel moved. While I seem to remember somebody posting a video on YouTube that showed it airing on WNBC at 4:30 for a brief period in 1991, I think that\'s fake because channel 4 was still airing Donahue in the 4:00 slot.




(W)WOR picked it up for a time......So it might have went there after WABC dropped it..

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 13, 2013, 09:15:24 PM



I\'m actually curious to see what happened to ET after WABC dropped it. It airs on WCBS now but I don\'t think it picked it up right away once Wheel moved. While I seem to remember somebody posting a video on YouTube that showed it airing on WNBC at 4:30 for a brief period in 1991, I think that\'s fake because channel 4 was still airing Donahue in the 4:00 slot.


(W)WOR picked it up for a time......So it might have went there after WABC dropped it..



The way I read it back in the day is that ET bounced back and forth between WPIX and WABC for a few years- channel 7 picked it up from channel 11 early in the run, then I think it ended up back on channel 11 then back on 7.


Or maybe I\'m remembering when it was on channel 9- one of them aired ET at 8:30 PM and it sure wasn\'t WABC. Next time I take a trip to the library I\'ll hit the microfilm room up.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Johnissoevil on November 13, 2013, 09:19:46 PM


 




The way I read it back in the day is that ET bounced back and forth between WPIX and WABC for a few years- channel 7 picked it up from channel 11 early in the run, then I think it ended up back on channel 11 then back on 7.


Or maybe I\'m remembering when it was on channel 9- one of them aired ET at 8:30 PM and it sure wasn\'t WABC. Next time I take a trip to the library I\'ll hit the microfilm room up.

 




 


It was on WOR at 8:30 from 86 to 88.  WPIX never had ET.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 13, 2013, 09:27:38 PM



 

The way I read it back in the day is that ET bounced back and forth between WPIX and WABC for a few years- channel 7 picked it up from channel 11 early in the run, then I think it ended up back on channel 11 then back on 7.


Or maybe I\'m remembering when it was on channel 9- one of them aired ET at 8:30 PM and it sure wasn\'t WABC. Next time I take a trip to the library I\'ll hit the microfilm room up.

 


 

It was on WOR at 8:30 from 86 to 88.  WPIX never had ET.



Are you sure about that? Because I remember digging through the old papers and when WABC had initially picked it up, it said that the show had been on WPIX at first.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 14, 2013, 09:35:47 AM

Regarding $ale skipping S-016, I bet many, if not all of the $ale skips of episodes they have leased for, are music-rights related.


 


The 7/7/86 episode from the daytime edition used OMD\'s If You Leave for example.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: splinkynip on November 14, 2013, 10:44:08 AM

From my memories from the 80\'s in NYC market:


 


Syn Sale started off in February 1985 on channel 9 (WWOR), I believe at 8:30.


Moved to channel 7 (WABC) in the fall at 4:30, then switched with Jeopardy and aired at 4 (I guess so Jeopardy could provide better ratings into news at 5).... Jeopardy moved back to 4:00 in Sept of 1986 followed by syn Card Sharks.... few months later Oprah moved here.... Jeopardy moved to 7PM with reruns at 10AM followed by Split Second)...


 


As for ET.... started on WWOR for a year or 2, then I remember it briefly on WPIX, then at WABC for 2 or 3 yrs until 1986... then WWOR and back to WABC in 1988.... in 1990 it moved to WCBS where it still is today...


 


I suddenly feel like Zach Horan...


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: JMFabiano on November 14, 2013, 01:29:00 PM

I remember J! being on in the daytime on WABC for a while as well. 


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 15, 2013, 02:43:04 PM
Gamed121683, I remember you made an episode guide thread for this show. I can help you out with it, once the Syndie version starts airing.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: irismason42 on November 15, 2013, 03:43:28 PM


Gamed121683, I remember you made an episode guide thread for this show. I can help you out with it, once the Syndie version starts airing.

Sure, especially the Winner\'s Board era, which deserves the need for an episode guide. Gamed121683, or SRIV94, I hope one of you guys make an episode guide for the Syndie version, especially the Winner\'s Board era episodes.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 15, 2013, 09:46:28 PM


From my memories from the 80\'s in NYC market:

 

Syn Sale started off in February 1985 on channel 9 (WWOR), I believe at 8:30.

Moved to channel 7 (WABC) in the fall at 4:30, then switched with Jeopardy and aired at 4 (I guess so Jeopardy could provide better ratings into news at 5).... Jeopardy moved back to 4:00 in Sept of 1986 followed by syn Card Sharks.... few months later Oprah moved here.... Jeopardy moved to 7PM with reruns at 10AM followed by Split Second)...

 

As for ET.... started on WWOR for a year or 2, then I remember it briefly on WPIX, then at WABC for 2 or 3 yrs until 1986... then WWOR and back to WABC in 1988.... in 1990 it moved to WCBS where it still is today...

 

I suddenly feel like Zach Horan...


Jeopardy didn\'t move to 7 until after they dropped Split Second, whenever that was (Sally Jesse Raphael took the 10 am slot, ETA to pinpoint that as at least September 14, 1987 because i saw a promo for it on an Eyewitness News open somebody posted, and one of the news items plugged was the Papal visit to Miami which began on the 11th) because World News Tonight preceded Squares for its first season.


I\'m pretty sure that ET didn\'t immediately premiere on channel 2 but since they picked up Hard Copy the year before (thus bumping Win, Lose or Draw to late night), wouldn\'t surprise me if Paramount was trying to sell those two as a pair.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: splinkynip on November 16, 2013, 01:17:28 PM


 



From my memories from the 80\'s in NYC market:

 

Syn Sale started off in February 1985 on channel 9 (WWOR), I believe at 8:30.

Moved to channel 7 (WABC) in the fall at 4:30, then switched with Jeopardy and aired at 4 (I guess so Jeopardy could provide better ratings into news at 5).... Jeopardy moved back to 4:00 in Sept of 1986 followed by syn Card Sharks.... few months later Oprah moved here.... Jeopardy moved to 7PM with reruns at 10AM followed by Split Second)...

 

As for ET.... started on WWOR for a year or 2, then I remember it briefly on WPIX, then at WABC for 2 or 3 yrs until 1986... then WWOR and back to WABC in 1988.... in 1990 it moved to WCBS where it still is today...

 

I suddenly feel like Zach Horan...



Jeopardy didn\'t move to 7 until after they dropped Split Second, whenever that was (Sally Jesse Raphael took the 10 am slot, ETA to pinpoint that as at least September 14, 1987 because i saw a promo for it on an Eyewitness News open somebody posted, and one of the news items plugged was the Papal visit to Miami which began on the 11th) because World News Tonight preceded Squares for its first season.


I\'m pretty sure that ET didn\'t immediately premiere on channel 2 but since they picked up Hard Copy the year before (thus bumping Win, Lose or Draw to late night), wouldn\'t surprise me if Paramount was trying to sell those two as a pair.

 




No, I specifically remember J moving to 7 in December of 1986, as the newspapers were making a big deal of World News Tonight moving to 6:30... WOF and ET switched channels in September 1990... my sister was a contestant on the nighttime show in October of that year and we had to tell many people in our area that it was no longer on Channel 2 

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: JMFabiano on November 16, 2013, 02:38:09 PM


 




 



From my memories from the 80\'s in NYC market:

 

Syn Sale started off in February 1985 on channel 9 (WWOR), I believe at 8:30.

Moved to channel 7 (WABC) in the fall at 4:30, then switched with Jeopardy and aired at 4 (I guess so Jeopardy could provide better ratings into news at 5).... Jeopardy moved back to 4:00 in Sept of 1986 followed by syn Card Sharks.... few months later Oprah moved here.... Jeopardy moved to 7PM with reruns at 10AM followed by Split Second)...

 

As for ET.... started on WWOR for a year or 2, then I remember it briefly on WPIX, then at WABC for 2 or 3 yrs until 1986... then WWOR and back to WABC in 1988.... in 1990 it moved to WCBS where it still is today...

 

I suddenly feel like Zach Horan...



Jeopardy didn\'t move to 7 until after they dropped Split Second, whenever that was (Sally Jesse Raphael took the 10 am slot, ETA to pinpoint that as at least September 14, 1987 because i saw a promo for it on an Eyewitness News open somebody posted, and one of the news items plugged was the Papal visit to Miami which began on the 11th) because World News Tonight preceded Squares for its first season.


I\'m pretty sure that ET didn\'t immediately premiere on channel 2 but since they picked up Hard Copy the year before (thus bumping Win, Lose or Draw to late night), wouldn\'t surprise me if Paramount was trying to sell those two as a pair.

 




No, I specifically remember J moving to 7 in December of 1986, as the newspapers were making a big deal of World News Tonight moving to 6:30... WOF and ET switched channels in September 1990... my sister was a contestant on the nighttime show in October of that year and we had to tell many people in our area that it was no longer on Channel 2 


 




 


I do recall a commercial from WABC promoting J! and Lange NTT from 1984, however, for what it\'s worth. 

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Jimmy Owen on November 16, 2013, 03:00:12 PM

A trip to your library with New York Times Microfilm archives would answer all questions.  They were very good with their daily TV listings.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: JMFabiano on November 16, 2013, 03:54:11 PM


A trip to your library with New York Times Microfilm archives would answer all questions.  They were very good with their daily TV listings.




 


Very true indeed, and I miss the digital version that my libraries had to give up to cut costs.  If you want to know more about the 1984 commercial I referenced, you\'ll have to ask Jason Jones (teamfx2000) if he still has the CLG Megamix master tapes from the Closing Logo Group.  One of the later volumes has the ad in question, so maybe he can help you out further with it. 

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: cyclone45 on November 16, 2013, 04:17:15 PM


 




 




 



From my memories from the 80\'s in NYC market:

 

Syn Sale started off in February 1985 on channel 9 (WWOR), I believe at 8:30.

Moved to channel 7 (WABC) in the fall at 4:30, then switched with Jeopardy and aired at 4 (I guess so Jeopardy could provide better ratings into news at 5).... Jeopardy moved back to 4:00 in Sept of 1986 followed by syn Card Sharks.... few months later Oprah moved here.... Jeopardy moved to 7PM with reruns at 10AM followed by Split Second)...

 

As for ET.... started on WWOR for a year or 2, then I remember it briefly on WPIX, then at WABC for 2 or 3 yrs until 1986... then WWOR and back to WABC in 1988.... in 1990 it moved to WCBS where it still is today...

 

I suddenly feel like Zach Horan...



Jeopardy didn\'t move to 7 until after they dropped Split Second, whenever that was (Sally Jesse Raphael took the 10 am slot, ETA to pinpoint that as at least September 14, 1987 because i saw a promo for it on an Eyewitness News open somebody posted, and one of the news items plugged was the Papal visit to Miami which began on the 11th) because World News Tonight preceded Squares for its first season.


I\'m pretty sure that ET didn\'t immediately premiere on channel 2 but since they picked up Hard Copy the year before (thus bumping Win, Lose or Draw to late night), wouldn\'t surprise me if Paramount was trying to sell those two as a pair.

 




No, I specifically remember J moving to 7 in December of 1986, as the newspapers were making a big deal of World News Tonight moving to 6:30... WOF and ET switched channels in September 1990... my sister was a contestant on the nighttime show in October of that year and we had to tell many people in our area that it was no longer on Channel 2 


 




 


I do recall a commercial from WABC promoting J! and Lange NTT from 1984, however, for what it\'s worth. 


 




Hold on...\'84 NTT was on  ABC? That\'s news to me.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: BrandonFG on November 16, 2013, 04:33:08 PM

Syndicated. It just aired on WABC in New York, much like Jeopardy! did.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: cyclone45 on November 16, 2013, 05:04:49 PM

Lived in NY in 84 and LOVED game shows..wonder why I never saw it?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: chad1m on November 23, 2013, 10:37:41 PM

Here\'s the promo for the (apparently sponsored) marathon:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPixWJil6Ys


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 23, 2013, 10:38:33 PM


Lived in NY in 84 and LOVED game shows..wonder why I never saw it?




Because it wasn\'t on in \'84.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 23, 2013, 10:47:02 PM

The clips with Jack/Andra/Buck as the contestants are from the very episode, as aired on January 7, 1985.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: CoreyArcher on November 24, 2013, 01:46:18 AM
So, if we\'re getting about the first 13 weeks of syndie $ale, are we going to see a lot winner?
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: sotcfan2004 on November 24, 2013, 02:26:34 AM


So, if we\'re getting about the first 13 weeks of syndie $ale, are we going to see a lot winner?




 


If my memory of $ale chronology serves me, we\'ll see two.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: TLEberle on November 24, 2013, 02:58:06 AM
By my tally, several.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on November 24, 2013, 04:45:47 AM


So, if we\'re getting about the first 13 weeks of syndie $ale, are we going to see a lot winner?




The first one happened four weeks and two days in. Beyond that I don\'t know how long it took to get another.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Strikerz04 on November 24, 2013, 11:16:27 AM


By my tally, several.




Goss and Lowery. I don\'t think we\'d get to Conkright unless they started skipping en masse.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Jimmy Owen on November 24, 2013, 12:22:09 PM


 




So, if we\'re getting about the first 13 weeks of syndie $ale, are we going to see a lot winner?




 


If my memory of $ale chronology serves me, we\'ll see two.


 




...and at least one swinger.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 24, 2013, 01:03:24 PM


 



So, if we\'re getting about the first 13 weeks of syndie $ale, are we going to see a lot winner?





The first one happened four weeks and two days in. Beyond that I don\'t know how long it took to get another.

 




Unfortunately, it looks like that very episode, S-022 is being skipped. Must have been music rights issues. I wouldn\'t be surprised if the vast majority of Sale skips on GSN are music rights related.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLclark86 on November 24, 2013, 02:00:22 PM

Unfortunately, it looks like that very episode, S-022 is being skipped. Must have been music rights issues. I wouldn\'t be surprised if the vast majority of Sale skips on GSN are music rights related.


 


I just skimmed through the episode. I didn\'t find anything music related that would\'ve been a rights issue. How exactly did you find out that 022 is getting skipped over?

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 24, 2013, 02:05:54 PM

http://gameshowfollies.blogspot.com/


 


Look at the PDF for December 16-22. Who were the players in that episode, and who won the lot? Do you also have the skipped S-016?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on November 24, 2013, 02:43:23 PM


 



Unfortunately, it looks like that very episode, S-022 is being skipped. Must have been music rights issues. I wouldn\'t be surprised if the vast majority of Sale skips on GSN are music rights related.


 


I just skimmed through the episode. I didn\'t find anything music related that would\'ve been a rights issue. How exactly did you find out that 022 is getting skipped over?


 




He doesn\'t have any idea.  He just posts mistruths that his \"sources\" give him.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLclark86 on November 24, 2013, 02:48:58 PM


http://gameshowfollies.blogspot.com/


 


Look at the PDF for December 16-22. Who were the players in that episode, and who won the lot? Do you also have the skipped S-016?




 


I\'m assuming that\'s John Goss\' win, as his $72k jackpot would be 22 episodes in.


http://youtu.be/6581RSjVdxQ


 


I don\'t have episode 16, sorry. I did not realize that the PDFs were that far out, hence why I asked how you knew. Now I know.


 


 


 




He doesn\'t have any idea.  He just posts mistruths that his \"sources\" give him.




 


Easy there, hoss. He simply referred to the same PDFs that most of us follow for this sort of info.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: gamed121683 on November 24, 2013, 03:46:18 PM


Gamed121683, I remember you made an episode guide thread for this show. I can help you out with it, once the Syndie version starts airing.




 


 I believe this is thread you\'re thinking of?


 


P.S. Gracias!

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Strikerz04 on November 24, 2013, 05:09:00 PM
Wouldn\'t Goss\' win occur on episode 23?


If episode 1 had 50K, and include every episode until 72K...(22 + 1)
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Bryce L. on November 24, 2013, 05:22:10 PM


Wouldn\'t Goss\' win occur on episode 23?


If episode 1 had 50K, and include every episode until 72K...(22 + 1)




Correct. I just did a little scratch-work and got this...


 


S-001 - $50,000

S-002 - $51,000

S-003 - $52,000

S-004 - $53,000

S-005 - $54,000


 


S-006 - $55,000

S-007 - $56,000

S-008 - $57,000

S-009 - $58,000

S-010 - $59,000


 


S-011 - $60,000

S-012 - $61,000

S-013 - $62,000

S-014 - $63,000

S-015 - $64,000


 


S-016 - $65,000

S-017 - $66,000

S-018 - $67,000

S-019 - $68,000

S-020 - $69,000


 


S-021 - $70,000

S-022 - $71,000

S-023 - $72,000 (Goss\' win)


S-024 - $50,000


S-025 - $51,000

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLclark86 on November 24, 2013, 08:11:32 PM
You\'re right, my mistake.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: cyclone45 on November 27, 2013, 08:36:15 PM

Reminder to all to set your DVRs. Syndie $ale and network $ale are separate series.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: SRIV94 on November 29, 2013, 11:06:18 AM

Wow.  GSN kept the contestant phone number and ticket info plugs intact in the end credits.


 


So when do we call?  :)


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 29, 2013, 11:30:33 AM

My thoughts and observations:


 


* The Rhinestoned Helvetica font isn\'t present yet. But the updated fonts for the Instant Bargains are.


 


* Mobile phones have certainly come a long way from the suitcase type. Same thing with the laptops.


 


* $830 just to buy all the prizes? No wonder they later decreased it to $750.


 


* The contestants seem really good at getting the money cards on the Fame Game board. Could this be why they later changed it to a randomizer?


 


* With regards to the ticket plug, they didn\'t even cover it up with a \"Phone Not Active\" disclaimer, like USA Network always did.


 


* I remember Travis saying that one of the differences between the Syndicated and Daytime editions was the type of questions asked. On the Syndicated edition, it was virtually general knowledge questions, whereas the daytime one had more current-event themed questions. I\'ve seen Syndie $ale before, but I never really noticed it, until I watched the episodes in consecutive order.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: SuperSweeper on November 29, 2013, 12:12:41 PM

I have a small request for anyone who was watching the marathon this morning: Can you tell me the last name and/or the hometown of Judy, who was the champion of the show that aired at 10:30?  I\'m about 99% sure that she is one of my former teachers from high school, but I was only able to catch the last two minutes or so of the main game.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Don Howard on November 29, 2013, 12:46:49 PM


Wow.  GSN kept the contestant phone number and ticket info plugs intact in the end credits.


 


So when do we call?  :)




 


I understand Ottinger already called and has a taping day scheduled.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: BrandonFG on November 29, 2013, 01:12:14 PM

* The contestants seem really good at getting the money cards on the Fame Game board. Could this be why they later changed it to a randomizer?

 


* With regards to the ticket plug, they didn\'t even cover it up with a \"Phone Not Active\" disclaimer, like USA Network always did.




Dunno how the Fame Game would\'ve made a difference. Either way, it was still a blind draw...it\'s just with the randomizer, you saw the Money Card in advance, and tried to have good hand-eye coordination.


 


On the rare occasion when GSN showed ticket plugs (they did it with Password Plus a few times), they didn\'t use a disclaimer there either. I think the difference with USA is that the reruns were a lot more recent, so it would be easier to mistake a 4-5 year old show as new*, as opposed to one from 29 years ago.


 


*Considering the average viewer at home might not even realize it was a rerun at that point.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: MikeK on November 29, 2013, 01:42:31 PM


 



* The contestants seem really good at getting the money cards on the Fame Game board. Could this be why they later changed it to a randomizer?


Dunno how the Fame Game would\'ve made a difference. Either way, it was still a blind draw...it\'s just with the randomizer, you saw the Money Card in advance, and tried to have good hand-eye coordination.




The $5 money card on today\'s eps. makes a difference as well.  I think I saw that one alone hit on at least half of today\'s shows.


 


I was surprised by the lack of prizes on the Fame Game board, though it makes some sense on a nighttime version.  A non-cash, non-game cash item wasn\'t hit until the 3rd or 4th show.  The combination of mystery money or try again, followed by $400 or try again, then finally picking cutlery on one of the last shows was odd as well.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Julius on November 29, 2013, 01:51:13 PM


Hi everyone,


 


I just had a look at the PDF\'s for around Thanksgiving for GSN, and it looks like Syndicated $ale of the Century is coming, with an 8 episode marathon on Black Friday!


 


https://workspaces.acrobat.com/app.html#d=-XbCvwN2hqclMLwVL416Qg


 


It also appears that a Family Feud marathon on Thanksgiving will feature literally every version of the show.


 


Some great classic game show news!


-Adam




Do GSN has the entire syndicated run?

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Strikerz04 on November 29, 2013, 02:26:39 PM


 




 



* The contestants seem really good at getting the money cards on the Fame Game board. Could this be why they later changed it to a randomizer?


Dunno how the Fame Game would\'ve made a difference. Either way, it was still a blind draw...it\'s just with the randomizer, you saw the Money Card in advance, and tried to have good hand-eye coordination.




The $5 money card on today\'s eps. makes a difference as well.  I think I saw that one alone hit on at least half of today\'s shows.


 


I was surprised by the lack of prizes on the Fame Game board, though it makes some sense on a nighttime version.  A non-cash, non-game cash item wasn\'t hit until the 3rd or 4th show.  The combination of mystery money or try again, followed by $400 or try again, then finally picking cutlery on one of the last shows was odd as well.


 




 


I\'d like to say the $15 card made just as many appearances through the marathon (even moreso than the $5)...

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: TLEberle on November 29, 2013, 02:44:16 PM

* The contestants seem really good at getting the money cards on the Fame Game board. Could this be why they later changed it to a randomizer?

I\'m guessing the popularity of Press Your Luck (what kind of ratings did it pull, anyway?) had more to do with that than people being able to make a blind choice and come up with something good. Plus they get to use the little ditty from Time Machine again.

If we assume that there are only the three money cards and no means to pick again, there is an 8-in-21 chance that all three money cards will go begging. That means in 62% of shows at least one money card will be chosen. That\'s not contestants being \"really good at finding money cards,\" that\'s just probability at work over a series of trials.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: BrandonFG on November 29, 2013, 03:14:30 PM



* The contestants seem really good at getting the money cards on the Fame Game board. Could this be why they later changed it to a randomizer?



I\'m guessing the popularity of Press Your Luck (what kind of ratings did it pull, anyway?) had more to do with that than people being able to make a blind choice and come up with something good. Plus they get to use the little ditty from Time Machine again.


That\'s a really good point. Both shows were already competing in the 10:30 slot; I\'m wondering if PYL was pulling viewers away from Sale, and whether this was Sale\'s response?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: gamed121683 on November 29, 2013, 05:07:26 PM


I have a small request for anyone who was watching the marathon this morning: Can you tell me the last name and/or the hometown of Judy, who was the champion of the show that aired at 10:30?  I\'m about 99% sure that she is one of my former teachers from high school, but I was only able to catch the last two minutes or so of the main game.




 


Didn\'t get her hometown, but her last name is Tyrer.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: SRIV94 on November 29, 2013, 05:13:40 PM


 




I have a small request for anyone who was watching the marathon this morning: Can you tell me the last name and/or the hometown of Judy, who was the champion of the show that aired at 10:30?  I\'m about 99% sure that she is one of my former teachers from high school, but I was only able to catch the last two minutes or so of the main game.




 


Didn\'t get her hometown, but her last name is Tyrer.


 




Originally from Dallas.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: SuperSweeper on November 29, 2013, 10:34:25 PM


 




I have a small request for anyone who was watching the marathon this morning: Can you tell me the last name and/or the hometown of Judy, who was the champion of the show that aired at 10:30?  I\'m about 99% sure that she is one of my former teachers from high school, but I was only able to catch the last two minutes or so of the main game.




 


Didn\'t get her hometown, but her last name is Tyrer.


 




 


Thanks for the information!  Unfortunately, it was not her.  It had to be her doppelganger, as the resemblance was striking.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: cyclone45 on November 29, 2013, 11:57:37 PM

Well...according to the PDFs, they\'re starting on ep 9 on Monday. Drat. I missed the first three syndie eps...


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: gamed121683 on November 30, 2013, 12:43:52 AM


 



* The contestants seem really good at getting the money cards on the Fame Game board. Could this be why they later changed it to a randomizer?



I\'m guessing the popularity of Press Your Luck (what kind of ratings did it pull, anyway?) had more to do with that than people being able to make a blind choice and come up with something good. Plus they get to use the little ditty from Time Machine again.


If we assume that there are only the three money cards and no means to pick again, there is an 8-in-21 chance that all three money cards will go begging. That means in 62% of shows at least one money card will be chosen. That\'s not contestants being \"really good at finding money cards,\" that\'s just probability at work over a series of trials.

 




 


This post was brought to you by...

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: ET206 on November 30, 2013, 12:56:51 AM

Jay Stewart appeared in two Instant Bargain skits.  This is the first time I can remember seeing him on-screen on $otC.  Did he (or Don Morrow) ever appear on-screen on the Daytime version?  Anyway, it\'s good hearing his voice on GSN again.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on November 30, 2013, 06:40:40 AM
Stewart did appear in a Daytime Instant Bargain skit (in a kimono!) in a 1984 episode. IIRC, it was between the debut of the Winner\'s Board and Summer\'s debut.


The Inquisitive One
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: sotcfan2004 on November 30, 2013, 12:26:58 PM

Out of curiosity, it looks like they used several different female models for the nighttime version. Any idea on who they were?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 30, 2013, 01:07:06 PM

A few things that have been brought to my attention recently:


 


1) Doing some calculations in my head, Matt Ottinger\'s episode aired on May 17, 1985, and was #S-095. 29 episodes after Alice Conkwright won the $77,000 jackpot.


 


2) According to Jason Cranmer on Chuck Donegan\'s\' Facebook Page, the last episode of $ale\'s first Syndicated season, was also Tim Holleran\'s first appearance  (#S-100; May 24, 1985). I believe he was originally on for 8 episodes.


 


3) I heard claims that Jay Stewart filled in for Lee Menning as co-host in 1984. Did he really? I\'d like to see that if it is actually true.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: chad1m on November 30, 2013, 04:49:39 PM

As someone whose first regular exposure to Sale was GSN\'s daytime pickup this year, it\'s weird for me not having an Instant Cash or hearing the randomizer start when someone answers a Fame Game correctly.


If anyone that doesn\'t have GSN or missed out is interested in the marathon episodes, I\'m more than happy to trade for them. I\'ve got them digitized.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: cyclone45 on November 30, 2013, 06:07:36 PM

I need the first 4.. DVR was only set to keep 5 episodes!!


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: cyclone45 on November 30, 2013, 09:55:53 PM

Yes Vahan, but how many episodes is GSN\'S lease? If it\'s only 65, we won\'t get to Conkwright or Holleran.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: catnap1972 on November 30, 2013, 10:11:25 PM

Looks like they had some conversion issue with episodes #4-6 in the set.  If you watch closely, motion and transitions have that weird jerky streamed look to them.  Thought it might\'ve been my DVR but the commercials look fine and episode #s 1-3 along with the last two look fine.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: snowpeck on November 30, 2013, 10:31:21 PM


Looks like they had some conversion issue with episodes #4-6 in the set.  If you watch closely, motion and transitions have that weird jerky streamed look to them.  Thought it might\'ve been my DVR but the commercials look fine and episode #s 1-3 along with the last two look fine.




Not just you... had the same issue on my end.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Strikerz04 on November 30, 2013, 10:59:35 PM


Looks like they had some conversion issue with episodes #4-6 in the set.  If you watch closely, motion and transitions have that weird jerky streamed look to them.  Thought it might\'ve been my DVR but the commercials look fine and episode #s 1-3 along with the last two look fine.




I thought my eyes were going out on me. Glad to know I didn\'t see otherwise.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Chief-O on November 30, 2013, 11:13:22 PM


 




Looks like they had some conversion issue with episodes #4-6 in the set.  If you watch closely, motion and transitions have that weird jerky streamed look to them.  Thought it might\'ve been my DVR but the commercials look fine and episode #s 1-3 along with the last two look fine.




Not just you... had the same issue on my end.


 




 


Same here. Maybe it\'s just the videographer/editor in me, but those eps. were hard for me to watch.....[but still fun game-wise!]


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 01, 2013, 02:10:29 AM


Yes Vahan, but how many episodes is GSN\'S lease? If it\'s only 65, we won\'t get to Conkwright or Holleran.




 


I don\'t know.


 


So does anyone here recall Jay Stewart filling in for Lee Menning in 1984?

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: JMFabiano on December 01, 2013, 10:09:38 PM


 



* The contestants seem really good at getting the money cards on the Fame Game board. Could this be why they later changed it to a randomizer?

 


* With regards to the ticket plug, they didn\'t even cover it up with a \"Phone Not Active\" disclaimer, like USA Network always did.




Dunno how the Fame Game would\'ve made a difference. Either way, it was still a blind draw...it\'s just with the randomizer, you saw the Money Card in advance, and tried to have good hand-eye coordination.


 


On the rare occasion when GSN showed ticket plugs (they did it with Password Plus a few times), they didn\'t use a disclaimer there either. I think the difference with USA is that the reruns were a lot more recent, so it would be easier to mistake a 4-5 year old show as new*, as opposed to one from 29 years ago.


 


*Considering the average viewer at home might not even realize it was a rerun at that point.


 




 


Considering that GSN always made it a point not to show plugs, barring a few select mistakes, I am not sure time made a difference to them. 


 


I thought the PW+ ones made it through for a reason; i.e. because they were mid-segment to allow Bill Cullen to travel between the main game and Alphabetics sets, where an edit would be awkward (though GSN used to cover mid-segment ticket plugs with their own web and office address plugs...)  

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 02, 2013, 10:03:22 AM

A contestant on other game shows alert: Greg was also on Press Your Luck in 1983, winner of $15,400 in cash.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 06, 2013, 10:17:58 AM

Did Ron on today\'s episode also appear on Scrabble during 1984 and 1985\'s Tournament of Champions? The same Ron where Chuck was saying \"That\'s okay Ron, you just stepped all over my foot!\"?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: TLEberle on December 06, 2013, 11:48:23 AM
I don\'t know; did he?
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Strikerz04 on December 06, 2013, 03:54:27 PM


Did Ron on today\'s episode also appear on Scrabble during 1984 and 1985\'s Tournament of Champions? The same Ron where Chuck was saying \"That\'s okay Ron, you just stepped all over my foot!\"?




No.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 11, 2013, 10:46:18 AM

Today, GSN aired the 2nd of 8 John Goss episodes. The $750 goal is now in place, and although GSN cut to a commercial during the end credits (not sure if it was to remove a ticket/contestant plug, or videotaped parting gifts, a la $100K Pyramid), they showed a nice close-up of the Reg Grundy Productions Inc. logo.


 


For a history of the American RG logo, here is this site.


 


http://www.closinglogos.com/page/Reg+Grundy+Productions


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Chief-O on December 11, 2013, 12:55:14 PM

It sounded like they were doing end-of-show parting gift/promotional consideration plugs.


 


Nice to see the RG logo non-split-screened...but I did notice they had a lot of time to kill with the close!!! Unlike most shows, GSN runs SOTC up to the [edited-in] Fremantle logo--they don\'t cut out early!


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: WhirlieBird74 on December 11, 2013, 05:17:46 PM


Yes Vahan, but how many episodes is GSN\'S lease? If it\'s only 65, we won\'t get to Conkwright or Holleran.




Yes you will, at least John Goss, Helaine Lowey, and Alice Conkwright.  It took 22 episodes to break the first jackpot (for $72,000), 14 episodes to break the second (for $64,000), and 27 for the third (for $77,000).  Trust me, I\'ve seen every episode in its syndicated run.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Strikerz04 on December 11, 2013, 06:40:17 PM



Yes Vahan, but how many episodes is GSN\'S lease? If it\'s only 65, we won\'t get to Conkwright or Holleran.


Yes you will, at least John Goss, Helaine Lowey, and Alice Conkwright.  It took 22 episodes to break the first jackpot (for $72,000), 14 episodes to break the second (for $64,000), and 27 for the third (for $77,000).  Trust me, I\'ve seen every episode in its syndicated run.



Follow the math, you\'re an episode off from all of them. (23, 15, 28)
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on December 11, 2013, 06:43:30 PM



Yes Vahan, but how many episodes is GSN\'S lease? If it\'s only 65, we won\'t get to Conkwright or Holleran.

Yes you will, at least John Goss, Helaine Lowey, and Alice Conkwright.  It took 22 episodes to break the first jackpot (for $72,000), 14 episodes to break the second (for $64,000), and 27 for the third (for $77,000).  Trust me, I\'ve seen every episode in its syndicated run.

Follow the math, you\'re an episode off from all of them. (23, 15, 28)



Which brings us to 66, one more than the lease.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: WarioBarker on December 12, 2013, 12:20:56 AM
Which brings us to 66, one more than the lease.
...Except based on the advance schedules, GSN has skipped one episode (#S-016, John Goss' first day) and is going to skip another on the 18th (#S-022, John's seventh day), so at the very least we'll see Jim fish out $2,000 from his pockets to tempt Alice with an Instant Bargain on her final day. :)

Assuming the lease is 65 episodes (I don't recall any confirmation on that), we'll get to at least April 9 barring any further skipping.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on December 12, 2013, 02:10:20 AM
I didn\'t hear any confirmation either but I feel pretty certain the lease is for 13 weeks of shows. That seems to be GSN\'s MO of late.


Unless they throw us a curve and add some more weeks or picked up the entire run.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 12, 2013, 02:15:07 AM


 



Which brings us to 66, one more than the lease.



...Except based on the advance schedules, GSN has skipped one episode (#S-016, John Goss\' first day) and is going to skip another on the 18th (#S-022, John\'s seventh day), so at the very least we\'ll see Jim fish out $2,000 from his pockets to tempt Alice with an Instant Bargain on her final day. :)


Assuming the lease is 65 episodes (I don\'t recall any confirmation on that), we\'ll get to at least April 9 barring any further skipping.

 




 


Daniel, did this version of Sale ever have any rerun breaks in mid-season, like one week worth of reruns during December, and one week worth of reruns during April? Older seasons of Wheel of Fortune in Syndication used to do that.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Allstar87 on December 12, 2013, 03:05:49 AM


Assuming the lease is 65 episodes (I don\'t recall any confirmation on that), we\'ll get to at least April 9 barring any further skipping.


 




 


We\'re getting at least one more skip...the new PDFs show that S-026 won\'t be airing.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 17, 2013, 10:23:45 AM

1) PYLClark86, since S-#022 will be skipped over, can you please tell me who were John Goss\' opponents in that episode?


 


2) Did this version of Sale have mid-holiday breaks during Christmas and Easter, like Syndicated Wheel used to have?


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: aaron sica on December 17, 2013, 10:36:38 AM


1) PYLClark86, since S-#022 will be skipped over, can you please tell me who were John Goss\' opponents in that episode?


 


2) Did this version of Sale have mid-holiday breaks during Christmas and Easter, like Syndicated Wheel used to have?




I\'m getting flashbacks of adamjk and his \"Feud\" obsession....

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Strikerz04 on December 17, 2013, 11:03:06 AM


1) PYLClark86, since S-#022 will be skipped over, can you please tell me who were John Goss\' opponents in that episode?


 


2) Did this version of Sale have mid-holiday breaks during Christmas and Easter, like Syndicated Wheel used to have?




 


2. Since season 1 started in January...Um, no.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: MikeK on December 17, 2013, 12:12:13 PM


 




1) PYLClark86, since S-#022 will be skipped over, can you please tell me who were John Goss\' opponents in that episode?


 


2) Did this version of Sale have mid-holiday breaks during Christmas and Easter, like Syndicated Wheel used to have?




I\'m getting flashbacks of adamjk and his \"Feud\" obsession....


 




Aaron, if I have told you once, I have told you a thousand times...


 


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/hmtriplecrown/messwiththevahan_zps2004879d.jpg

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: aaron sica on December 17, 2013, 12:30:52 PM


 




 




1) PYLClark86, since S-#022 will be skipped over, can you please tell me who were John Goss\' opponents in that episode?


 


2) Did this version of Sale have mid-holiday breaks during Christmas and Easter, like Syndicated Wheel used to have?




I\'m getting flashbacks of adamjk and his \"Feud\" obsession....


 




Aaron, if I have told you once, I have told you a thousand times...


 


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/hmtriplecrown/messwiththevahan_zps2004879d.jpg


 




<like>

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLclark86 on December 17, 2013, 01:23:55 PM


1) PYLClark86, since S-#022 will be skipped over, can you please tell me who were John Goss\' opponents in that episode?




 


I\'d be happy to. The contestants were Dweezil McDunderson and Ken Funklederp.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: SuperMatch93 on December 17, 2013, 01:42:37 PM


 




1) PYLClark86, since S-#022 will be skipped over, can you please tell me who were John Goss\' opponents in that episode?




 


I\'d be happy to. The contestants were Dweezil McDunderson and Ken Funklederp.


 




Ooh, a rare all-male match! PYLClark86, can you please tell me how many of those there were over the years?

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLclark86 on December 17, 2013, 01:45:17 PM


 




 




1) PYLClark86, since S-#022 will be skipped over, can you please tell me who were John Goss\' opponents in that episode?




 


I\'d be happy to. The contestants were Dweezil McDunderson and Ken Funklederp.


 




Ooh, a rare all-male match! PYLClark86, can you please tell me how many of those there were over the years?


 




Forty seven and a half, speaketh the Sale Sage.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on December 17, 2013, 06:15:24 PM



1) PYLClark86, since S-#022 will be skipped over, can you please tell me who were John Goss\' opponents in that episode?


 

I\'d be happy to. The contestants were Dweezil McDunderson and Ken Funklederp.



Wasn\'t Mr. Funklederp on the pilot of Caesars Challenge?


I remember Mr. McDunderson\'s appearance well. He said his nickname was \"Weezy.\"
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 17, 2013, 07:45:39 PM

PYLclark86, what happened? You said you actually had a copy of S-022, and instead of actually helping me out, you just toy with me.


Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLclark86 on December 17, 2013, 08:33:45 PM


PYLclark86, what happened? You said you actually had a copy of S-022, and instead of actually helping me out, you just toy with me.




Oh god, how to tackle this one... guuuh.



Alright Vanna Nissan: I had thought 022 was his lot win, but as it was pointed out by people who are much better at math than I am that this was not the case.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: snowpeck on December 17, 2013, 08:36:27 PM
When Pylclark86 said that, it was because you said S-022 was John Gose\'s last episode. That is what he said he had access to, which anyone with access to Youtube does. Since S-022 was his next-to-last show, you successfully misled... yourself.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on December 17, 2013, 09:20:30 PM


Vanna Nissan.




Right next to Sajak Subaru, turn left by Alex Trebek Audi.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on December 17, 2013, 09:22:30 PM


When Pylclark86 said that, it was because you said S-022 was John Gose\'s last episode. That is what he said he had access to, which anyone with access to Youtube does. Since S-022 was his next-to-last show, you successfully misled... yourself.




Okay, this is what I\'m not clear on. Was it Goss or Gose? It\'s not like Helaine L. where people are hearing an R that isn\'t there.


(she was living in Wayne, NJ when she was on...wonder if she still is.)
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Post by: TLEberle on December 17, 2013, 09:54:59 PM

Okay, this is what I\'m not clear on. Was it Goss or Gose? It\'s not like Helaine L. where people are hearing an R that isn\'t there.

In a \"you can be a game show contestant!\" book written by the contestant coordinator from Jeopardy!, he interviewed John Gose about the experience. So there y\'are.
Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: aaron sica on December 17, 2013, 10:23:13 PM


 




PYLclark86, what happened? You said you actually had a copy of S-022, and instead of actually helping me out, you just toy with me.




Oh god, how to tackle this one... guuuh.


Alright Vanna Nissan: I had thought 022 was his lot win, but as it was pointed out by people who are much better at math than I am that this was not the case.


 




That\'s \"Vanna Asinine\" to you. As in \"His $otC requests are asinine\".

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Post by: PYLclark86 on December 18, 2013, 12:24:50 AM


That\'s \"Vanna Asinine\" to you. As in \"His $otC requests are asinine\".




 


Duly noted.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: PYLdude on December 18, 2013, 03:15:41 AM



That\'s \"Vanna Asinine\" to you. As in \"His $otC requests are asinine\".


 

Duly noted.



But \"Vanna Nissan\" is funnier.
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Post by: aaron sica on December 18, 2013, 11:34:25 AM


 



 




That\'s \"Vanna Asinine\" to you. As in \"His $otC requests are asinine\".



 

Duly noted.



But \"Vanna Nissan\" is funnier.

 




Only because \"Vanna Datsun\" is so out of style. :)

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Post by: Don Howard on December 18, 2013, 11:51:35 AM


PYLclark86, what happened? You said you actually had a copy of S-022, and instead of actually helping me out, you just toy with me.




 


Serve a purpose, twit. Help out in a soup kitchen, read to an elderly person in the hospital, bathe yourself. 


You may post again after you\'ve done these.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: aaron sica on December 18, 2013, 11:56:51 AM


 




PYLclark86, what happened? You said you actually had a copy of S-022, and instead of actually helping me out, you just toy with me.




 


Serve a purpose, twit. Help out in a soup kitchen, read to an elderly person in the hospital, bathe yourself. 


You may post again after you\'ve done these.


 




And please...in that order.

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Post by: clemon79 on December 18, 2013, 12:37:43 PM


 




Serve a purpose, twit. Help out in a soup kitchen, read to an elderly person in the hospital, bathe yourself. 




And please...in that order.


 




 


Actually, out of deference to the elderly person, swap the last two.

Title: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: parliboy on December 18, 2013, 03:45:42 PM

If you feel the need to expedite, we will also accept \"bathing an elderly person in a soup kitchen\".


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Post by: MSTieScott on December 18, 2013, 10:00:15 PM

If you feel the need to expedite, we will also accept \"bathing an elderly person in a soup kitchen\".


I\'ll pass on the free soup, thanks.
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Post by: PYLdude on December 18, 2013, 11:35:00 PM


If you feel the need to expedite, we will also accept \"bathing an elderly person in a soup kitchen\".




 


Suddenly I had a SpongeBob flashback.


 


/\"Patrick, that\'s not fun!\"


//\"It is for me!\"

Title: Re: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: rwalker on January 01, 2014, 04:43:45 PM
Ok, how many people "bailed" with a prize they could buy. This guy bought the England trip last week, and I wondered how many "Cashed out" like that?
Title: Re: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: CoreyArcher on January 02, 2014, 01:19:21 AM
Ok, how many people "bailed" with a prize they could buy. This guy bought the England trip last week, and I wondered how many "Cashed out" like that?

I think there's a bigger question here ... How many people bought a prize below the prize level they had reached, as he did? He had enough in the bank to buy the player piano but chose the trip, which was the previous prize.
Title: Re: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: SRIV94 on January 02, 2014, 10:57:59 AM
Since he never passed on the trip, he was able to buy it.

As far as I remember, Laura Chambers bailed when a trip to Paris was offered.
Title: Re: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Don Howard on January 22, 2014, 01:42:05 PM
BONUS! A dual sighting of Jay Stewart on the show GSN ran this morning.
That fellow is the Alfred Hitchcock of $otC.
Title: Re: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: chad1m on January 23, 2014, 06:25:23 PM
Verbatim from my ratings pal Douglas, to accompany the good news about The Chase:

@SonOfTheBronx (https://twitter.com/SonOfTheBronx)
Just saw numbers for @GSN #PressYourLuck (331k on 1/21, 348k on 1/22) and #SaleOfTheCentury (364k on 1/21, 309k on 1/22). Nice!
Title: Re: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Pyramid80 on May 27, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
I saw that GSN started over with the premiere episode of the syndicated run of $ale today.  Was the episode that aired last Friday the last episode from the current lease?  Just wondering if GSN skipped the last few episodes or not.
Title: Re: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on May 27, 2014, 07:10:18 PM
I saw that GSN started over with the premiere episode of the syndicated run of $ale today.  Was the episode that aired last Friday the last episode from the current lease?  Just wondering if GSN skipped the last few episodes or not.

Yes, it was. I did an episode guide on the Syndicated edition.

http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,24898.msg322097.html#msg322097
Title: Re: $ale of the Century Syndicated
Post by: Pyramid80 on May 27, 2014, 08:08:02 PM
I saw that GSN started over with the premiere episode of the syndicated run of $ale today.  Was the episode that aired last Friday the last episode from the current lease?  Just wondering if GSN skipped the last few episodes or not.

Yes, it was. I did an episode guide on the Syndicated edition.

http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,24898.msg322097.html#msg322097

Great, thank you!