GSN\'s 2013 upfront presentations were today. From that, we learned...
Minute To Win It, hosted by Apolo Anton Ohno, premieres June 25 at 8PM.
The Chase, a fan favorite quiz show from ITV in the UK, has had eight episodes ordered for a U.S. adaptation. Chaser Mark Labbett is apparently on board.
Series in development include...
Dance Rivals, in production with Dancing With the Stars great Derek Hough, about dueling ballroom studios in Utah.
The Imposter, a real-life To Tell the Truth where a pair must determine, through interacting with them over a weekend, which member in a family really doesn\'t belong to that family. (This has been casting recently, so it\'s possible this has been greenlit for series.)
It Takes a Church, a religious dating show where a whole congregation finds a romantic match for one of its members.
Mind of a Man, a \"comedy game show\" with women trying to answer how a man would respond in posed situations.
Where Have You Been All My Life, a dating show where women make selections based on a man\'s youth.
You Don\'t Know What You\'re Missing, where family members are challenged to recall items from their home.
As per usual, most of these won\'t ever make it to series but are on the slate for potential programming options.
(Full press release here.)
The Imposter was done previously as No Relation. Interesting news about The Chase as well. Thanks for the update.
The Imposter was done previously as No Relation.
And it put me to sleep, but I don\'t speak for the forum.
You Don\'t Know What You\'re Missing sounds a little like NBC\'s Amnesia with Dennis Miller. None of the shows \"in development\" sound intriguing, but that\'s just from a one sentence description. Mind of a Man sounds a little interesting...I\'m guessing they\'ll throw a C-list male comedian or two on the panel?
Except for MTWI, nothing on this list makes me say \"OMG I gotta watch that!\" Despite the DWTS ratings fiasco, they\'re still determined to try and get a dance oriented show on. Some execs just never learn.
You Don\'t Know What You\'re Missing sounds a little like NBC\'s Amnesia with Dennis Miller.I don\'t remember the exact title of the article but there was one in Games Magazine many years ago that went into detail about various game shows overseas. This would have been well before the Deal or No Deal craze. One example was a show where contestants would be paid in gold bullion the amount of weight that they lost, but they were constantly tempted by various unhealthy snacks and so the game became one of short vs. long term thinking.
Minute to Win It, The Chase and Mind of a Man all sound really good.
Where have You Been all My Life sounds just alright, but it sounds better then anything like Love Triangle.
The Impostor doesn\'t thrill me. I\'m not 100% if it will do well. Time will tell.
The dancing one, the \"Dating Church Game\" and the bottom one sound pretty bad. But who knows.
\"These might work out. I guess. We\'ll see, I suppose\".
Where is this man\'s Pulitzer?
\"These might work out. I guess. We\'ll see, I suppose\".
\"I\'m a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess.\" -- Red Green
For anyone interested in taking on The Chase, auditions are announced for this and next month in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Washington, D.C. and Boston. Personally, I think that\'s a great sign about this being done right, that not all contestants will be coming from LA central casting like most GSN programs.
It\'s likely too early to speculate, but I wonder if it\'s just going to be the Beast for the entire series or if they\'re going to have a stable like the Brits do.
I wouldn\'t particularly mind either way, but the casting page made me wonder.
It\'s likely too early to speculate, but I wonder if it\'s just going to be the Beast for the entire series or if they\'re going to have a stable like the Brits do.
I wouldn\'t particularly mind either way, but the casting page made me wonder.
The press release doesn\'t even use the word \"Chaser,\" it\'s always \"the Beast,\" so I\'m guessing its all Mark.
It\'s likely too early to speculate, but I wonder if it\'s just going to be the Beast for the entire series or if they\'re going to have a stable like the Brits do.
I wouldn\'t particularly mind either way, but the casting page made me wonder.
The press release doesn\'t even use the word \"Chaser,\" it\'s always \"the Beast,\" so I\'m guessing its all Mark.
Without giving too much away, when the show was in development they were using somebody other than Mark (a recognizable American, in fact), and I certainly got the impression they were planning on having a team of chasers. That may have changed, or I may have misunderstood. I\'m not close enough to the production to know, but I am close enough to be ineligible to play, darn it.
Without giving too much away, when the show was in development they were using somebody other than Mark (a recognizable American, in fact), and I certainly got the impression they were planning on having a team of chasers.
They shot two pilots for FOX last year, one with Mark and one with the American (name dropped in the link). My guess is that they figured with only an initial order of eight episodes, why bother with introducing a full team?
Although I\'m glad that Mark is involved with the production, I wonder how much the fact that he is British will influence either the question choice or the games themselves.
I know that many of the soccer and royalty questions on the UK show are quite difficult for me, but seem like common knowledge to both Chasers and contestants.
A course on US sports and pop culture might be necessary to even the playing field and still offer questions that connect with viewers.
Without giving too much away, when the show was in development they were using somebody other than Mark (a recognizable American, in fact), and I certainly got the impression they were planning on having a team of chasers.They shot two pilots for FOX last year, one with Mark and one with the American (name dropped in the link). My guess is that they figured with only an initial order of eight episodes, why bother with introducing a full team?
Well, there you go then. I was playing \"better safe than sorry\". I didn\'t realize the Chasers were publicly known, and since I was told in a social setting, I didn\'t want to reveal it myself.
Although I\'m glad that Mark is involved with the production, I wonder how much the fact that he is British will influence either the question choice or the games themselves.
I know that many of the soccer and royalty questions on the UK show are quite difficult for me, but seem like common knowledge to both Chasers and contestants.
A course on US sports and pop culture might be necessary to even the playing field and still offer questions that connect with viewers.
I\'ve heard through the grapevine that Mark\'s been studying up on US culture for the tapings so I don\'t think that should be too much of a concern.
From the CCs at the Chicago auditions- taping begins the first week of June. No word on payouts or a host yet, and they\'re toying with the idea of cutting the team from 4 to 3. During the Round 2 auditions, my time slot had me as part of a 3 person team, while it looked like the slot after us was a 4 person team.
BTW, I made it through the process and am now playing the waiting game. Anybody else make it through?
I made it through as well, and was part of that 4-person slot. Apparently they had 19 qualifiers from Saturday, so they had one with the odd-man-out arrangement. Ours was played as two separate 3-player Final Chases, with one player rotating out after the first. I think the 3-player team for the U.S. version is pretty much set.
I missed out on Saturday\'s festivities in Chicago due to wisdom teeth removal ( & recovery). Needless to say, I hoped you guys fared well.
I\'ve read from Alex Davis that the prize budget will be pretty big. But with only three players on a team, and a one-hour time slot, the pacing will suffer.
I\'m not a big fan of picking a show apart before it\'s actually been made, much less before any of us have had a chance to see it. Seems to me that with the addition of commercials, there ought not be a considerable difference in pacing between the Brit four-player game and the American three. We also, for example, don\'t know for sure whether the three-player game might have an extra step or two in the head-to-head matchups to make up some of the difference.
I\'ve heard a few rumors through the grapevine (casting, other producers) about extra rounds/questions and it is possible since the teams narrow down from 4 to 3 here in the U.S.
Which Imaginary Friend did you create to come up with this chestnut?
(Matt, wasn\'t one of your issues that the show has four rounds of drudgery repeated four times, then the show gets good in the last act? Or was that someone else?)
Absolutely. I think the show as we know it could move quicker. I\'m just challenging the assertion that the show we DON\'T know would necessarily be any worse. And, frankly, three rounds of drudgery beats four rounds of drudgery anyway.
I\'ve read from Alex Davis that the prize budget will be pretty big. But with only three players on a team, and a one-hour time slot, the pacing will suffer.
I\'m not a big fan of picking a show apart before it\'s actually been made, much less before any of us have had a chance to see it. Seems to me that with the addition of commercials, there ought not be a considerable difference in pacing between the Brit four-player game and the American three. We also, for example, don\'t know for sure whether the three-player game might have an extra step or two in the head-to-head matchups to make up some of the difference.
I\'ve heard a few rumors through the grapevine (casting, other producers) about extra rounds/questions and it is possible since the teams narrow down from 4 to 3 here in the U.S.
Talking out of your ass does not constitute a conversation.
Talking out of an ass did provide Adult Swim with 2 seasons of crap, however. So...he\'s got a job waiting there, I guess.
As bawdy as it was, I did love Assy McGee.
ObGameShow: Cartoon Network aired Hole in the Wall.
[quote name=\\\"TLEbe](Matt, wasn\'t one of your issues that the show has four rounds of drudgery repeated four times, then the show gets good in the last act? Or was that someone else?)
Making the multiple choice part multi-player also makes it all or nothing, doesn\'t it?
Making the multiple choice part multi-player also makes it all or nothing, doesn\'t it?You could give each player an Ask the Audience device to register their guesses, and their avatar would move down the table with right answers or disappear when Mark catches them. A compromise would be to have pairs playing the table portion, so you cut it from four to two instead of one. You also could ditch the cash build round, it rarely surprises and that middle value rarely influences the others.
Heck, if we\'re going to arrange the show to make it look and play little like the original, let\'s have hot girls in bikinis stand next to Mark with a sparkler in one hand and cards to reveal his answer in the other. We\'ll call them the Beast\'s Teats.
ObGameShow: Cartoon Network aired Hole in the Wall.
And is now available on Netflix-on-demand, FWIW.
[quote name=\\\"Kevin Prat]Making the multiple choice part multi-player also makes it all or nothing, doesn\'t it?You could give each player an Ask the Audience device to register their guesses, and their avatar would move down the table with right answers or disappear when Mark catches them. A compromise would be to have pairs playing the table portion, so you cut it from four to two instead of one. You also could ditch the cash build round, it rarely surprises and that middle value rarely influences the others.[/quote]
As noted previously, the game has been altered for three people to a team. The Cash Builder round for this version will offer $5,000 for each correct answer, leading to some potentially high, tempting offers.
Yeah, but if they get your Typical Modern Game Show Contestants™ to play this thing, you can absolutely count on them being greedy as hell.
Given step-away offers sometimes run into the minus, I imagine there will be quite a disparity between the normal value and the step-away. Something like $5,000-$35,000-$85,000.
A question to think about; how many of the contestants know what they\'re up against?
Many.
Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?
I can say that leading up to, during, and after the auditions, seeking out the series on YouTube was openly and repeatedly encouraged.
Hollywood Junket has a slightly-spoilery set report up. It mentions that the individual chase rounds are referred to as \"Beat the Beast.\"
If I could name any famous Bishops I\'d have a massively awesome joke set up
Joey?
BuzzerBlog posted the first official picture from the set. It\'s basically the UK set + an audience in the round.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/945522_10151649322698493_391159316_n.jpg
GSN also released the logo for The Chase, which is slightly different, but still feels like, the original UK logo of The Chase.
Show will premiere August 6 at 9pm ET....
http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/chase-gsn-game-show-premiere-august-6/
JD
And they\'re double-fisting episodes, so there will be 2 a night, meaning this is a month-long event.
And they\'re double-fisting episodes, so there will be 2 a night, meaning this is a month-long event.
Saw it in the PR. Wonder why????
I\'m sure the voices in your head will come up with something.
They\'re probably making this a summer event to dip their toes in for a season 2.
BB reported only the first week is two original eps- after that it\'s one new ep and one rerun per week, so 7 weeks.
Promos for the program began airing yesterday. Below is the video of the 20-second spot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0fBXrIJFK4
This will probably get me to pick up GSN, if only for two months.
NSFW: http://25.media.tumblr.com/04f43581dfd8876019b9b8a66ae369ba/tumblr_montg1bzjE1r46ghpo3_400.gif
EDIT: I know nothing.
On the \"Game Show Confessions\" tumblr thing some parental basement dweller said \"It doesn\'t matter if you get Labbett or Rutter or whoever, just let me on and I\'ll beat him.\" I hope that guy got on the show.
Yes; over 400 of them.
NSFW: http://25.media.tumblr.com/04f43581dfd8876019b9b8a66ae369ba/tumblr_montg1bzjE1r46ghpo3_400.gif
How we felt leading up to taping.
I have never seen an episode of The Chase, and by all of your reviews it\'s good. Is there a good episode of the UK series that I should watch to see how this game plays out?
Is there a good episode of the UK series that I should watch to see how this game plays out?
The first one that comes to mind is this episode from early 2011. It introduces you to a lot of the ways the format can go and why it can be so exciting.
The score of this team ranks pretty high on the average scale of Final Chase scores. The way the game ends is why I\'m looking forward to our version having a studio audience. I can imagine the reaction to a moment like that being even more heightened with real people instead of the ITV audience machine.
Is there a good episode of the UK series that I should watch to see how this game plays out?
The first one that comes to mind is this episode from early 2011. It introduces you to a lot of the ways the format can go and why it can be so exciting.
Yeah, if you\'re only going to watch one, this is the one.
So here\'s what I don\'t get: why does The Chaser care about what he\'s offering to the contestants?
EDIT: I know nothing.
So...he has no financial interest, he\'s just coming up with a number for funsies?
WAY not getting it.
It isn\'t funsies, but he\'s certainly playing the game with a different currency. If Mark offers $100,000 against $25,000 and $5,000; the contestant takes the big offer but gets caught out, then he\'s done his job, hasn\'t he?So...he has no financial interest, he\'s just coming up with a number for funsies?
WAY not getting it.
It isn\'t funsies, but he\'s certainly playing the game with a different currency. If Mark offers $100,000 against $25,000 and $5,000; the contestant takes the big offer but gets caught out, then he\'s done his job, hasn\'t he?
Okay, so the only thing in it for him is that he gets rehired as Chaser if the show gets picked up because his offers are compelling and therefore make for good television?
EDIT: I know nothing.
I don\'t know if Mark has any input on *what* he offers.
EDIT: I know nothing.
So (in the US) do they shoot all three quickfire rounds at once, and then the individual Chases, and splice it all together after the fact? That would make sense, and would be hilarious to watch Mark finish a Chase, get up, walk down the hallway, and then turn right around and come back. :)
EDIT: I know nothing.
No, not at all. It\'s shot in order, because the bank accumulates and is mentioned when deliberating what offers to take.
Okay, but the only reason this would need to be so is if they showed the podium (with the current state of the bank) during the quickfire rounds, and from what I saw, the way they block it, that would be pretty easy to get around.
The commercial said $250,000, so I\'m assuming the producers are using that as a theoretical maximum all the possible offers combined will end up being.
And how many wins do you think they\'ll end up having? Based on Mark\'s record (according to Wikipedia, he\'s 87-34 overall which is actually third out of the four UK chasers), 2 wins out of 8 seem likely, though I wonder how he\'ll do on US-based pop culture or sports questions...
What I kind of fear is that they\'re going to force a possible payout of $250,000 for every game by making the last one-step-closer offer be the 250 grand minus the other two offers. Although if they keep with the British habit of putting the people the producers think are the strongest players first, it may not matter that much.
What I kind of fear is that they\'re going to force a possible payout of $250,000 for every game by making the last one-step-closer offer be the 250 grand minus the other two offers.
What I kind of fear is that they\'re going to force a possible payout of $250,000 for every game by making the last one-step-closer offer be the 250 grand minus the other two offers. Although if they keep with the British habit of putting the people the producers think are the strongest players first, it may not matter that much.
EDIT: I know nothing.
What I kind of fear is that they\'re going to force a possible payout of $250,000 for every game by making the last one-step-closer offer be the 250 grand minus the other two offers.
Why the hell would you think this would even be close to the case?
Because far too many game show producers in the last 15 years think that audiences won\'t be interested unless you keep talking up how vast the sums of money are that the contestants could at least theoretically win and that\'s the only way I could think, reasonably or unreasonably, to guarantee that the $250,000 that they\'re promoting is on the table every episode. I probably should have given a little more thought to what the prize budget for a GSN show would be and realized that it was pretty unlikely.
I probably should have given a little more thought to what the prize budget for a GSN show would be and realized that it was pretty unlikely.
No, you probably should have given a little more thought to the notion that offering that kind of money to the third player COMPLETELY BREAKS THE FORMAT.
I mean, there\'s broken, and there\'s even-Dylan-Lane-can-see-it\'s-broken.
You don\'t even have to go that far. Add up the three \"step closer amounts.\" If they approach $250k then there\'s your answer.Because far too many game show producers in the last 15 years think that audiences won\'t be interested unless you keep talking up how vast the sums of money are that the contestants could at least theoretically win and that\'s the only way I could think, reasonably or unreasonably, to guarantee that the $250,000 that they\'re promoting is on the table every episode. I probably should have given a little more thought to what the prize budget for a GSN show would be and realized that it was pretty unlikely.
I probably should have given a little more thought to what the prize budget for a GSN show would be and realized that it was pretty unlikely.
No, you probably should have given a little more thought to the notion that offering that kind of money to the third player COMPLETELY BREAKS THE FORMAT.
I mean, there\'s broken, and there\'s even-Dylan-Lane-can-see-it\'s-broken.
I\'m aware that it would break the format to offer ridiculously bloated offers to the third contestant. That\'s why I said I \"feared\" that they would do it. You seem to be reacting like I think it would be a good thing and the opposite is true.
Since you mentioned Dylan Lane, I\'ll point out that the wagering round on Chain Reaction is proof that GSN isn\'t exactly batting 1.000 when it comes to not letting producers break existing formats that are known to work well.
That\'s why I said I \"feared\" that they would do it. You seem to be reacting like I think it would be a good thing and the opposite is true.
No, I\'m reacting like I don\'t see how a rational person would even entertain the possibility, Chain Reaction be damned.
And here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpZw1hQBHOs
Hey! I noes that guy!
Hey! I noes that guy!
Me too. He\'s cute.
Promo three:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsEv02Ibt7k
Incredibly, The Chase has been already renewed for a second season without the first one even airing an episode. The renewal is another 8 episodes, which will obviously follow the first 8 already recorded. Production begins next month. The full press release is not posted on GSN\'s corporate site yet, so the text is in the spoiler box below:
July 1, 2013 (Santa Monica, CA) — GSN has ordered a second season of the highly anticipated new original series, THE CHASE, prior to the quiz show’s premiere on Tuesday, August 6th, at 9:00 P.M. ET/PT. The one-hour quiz show, in which three contestants battle in a fast-paced quiz competition against an all-knowing opponent, The Beast, is produced by ITV Studios America. The network has ordered eight episodes for season two, which is slated to air later in 2013.
“The high stakes of this ‘all or nothing,’ ‘David vs. Goliath’ battle of the brains result in riveting television,” said Amy Introcaso-Davis, EVP, Programming and Development, GSN. “While there is great gameplay in THE CHASE, it is also wildly entertaining to watch the always engaging Brooke Burns spar with trivia savant, Mark Labbett aka The Beast.”
“We couldn\'t be more delighted with the support that GSN has given THE CHASE and are thrilled that it has been picked up for a second season. THE CHASE team has done an outstanding job to bring this exciting, fun and fast-paced game show to life here in the US, and we look forward to a long, ongoing relationship with GSN,” said Paul Buccieri, Managing Director, ITV Studios International and President & CEO, ITV Studios America.
Based on the hit U.K. show of the same name, GSN’s THE CHASE is hosted by actress and television host Brooke Burns, known for her starring roles on “Baywatch” and “Melrose Place” and for her hosting duties on the game show “Dog Eat Dog” (now airing on GSN) and on the GSN pilot “Where Have You Been All My Life?” She was last seen in the starring role of the Lifetime movie “A Sister’s Revenge.” Joining Burns on the show as the formidable Beast is Mark Labbett, one of the original “Chasers” in the UK version and—at 6’7” and 370 lbs, with degrees from Oxford, Exeter and Glamorgan universities—a quiz giant in every way.
Production on the second season is slated to begin in August. Potential contestants with the speed and brains to go up against “The Beast” – can go to http://www.chasecasting.com/ for more information.
Season 1 airs for 13 weeks, then those shows are rerun for 13 more weeks. Season 2 airs for 13 weeks, then another cycle of 13 weeks of reruns.I could never understand why cable game shows normally have two seasons a year.
Even back then, that was how it was. The first season of MTV\'s Remote Control was in 1987, the second and third seasons were in 1988, and the fourth and fifth seasons were in 1989.
If this holds true, and GSN airs 8 weeks of reruns, then season 2 should start November 19th.
I could never understand why cable game shows normally have two seasons a year.
I think Comedy Central was an exception. Seasons 1 of Win Ben Stein\'s Money and Make Me Laugh aired in summer 1997 (both 13 weeks IIRC), and the second seasons didn\'t premiere until spring of 1998. But I thought GSN did a similar thing, at least until this show? Whammy and Russian Roulette, et al aired their first seasons in spring/summer 2002, then premiered the second seasons in April 2003.
Oddly enough, when I first heard about the renewal, I figured this was just like a network deciding to order the full season of a scripted series.
/They\'re eight weeks short, though
//Series 3, then, right? :D
Despite the DWTS ratings fiasco, they\'re still determined to try and get a dance oriented show on. Some execs just never learn.
If I were the executive for GSN and wanted to try a dance-oriented game show, I would consider picking up the rerun rights to the classic show Dance Fever. At least that was a fun show, and also had great musical talent on some or all of the episodes, and is definitely ten times better than Dancing with the Stars and GSN\'s newest dance-oriented show in development. I think it would be perfect for weekend airings in the late night hours.
Then again, music clearances may be an issue with Dance Fever. If I recall, Menudo performed one of their hits on Dance Fever at some point in the 80s, and if music clearances create a barrier for GSN, maybe Dance Fever may be more of a fit for VH-1 Classic.
and is definitely ten times better than...GSN\'s newest dance-oriented show in development.
How do you know this? Have you seen this show?
/yes, I know who I\'m talking to, folks. I wanna see his answer.
and is definitely ten times better than...GSN\'s newest dance-oriented show in development.
How do you know this? Have you seen this show?
/yes, I know who I\'m talking to, folks. I wanna see his answer.
I know I am not going to like the new dance-oriented GSN original that\'s in development because I am more interested in select retro shows and nothing from the 21st century. Guess I am stuck in \"retro mode\" it seems. However, I do watch 21st century episodes of TPIR, but that\'s only because the show was airing non-stop since 1972 and still airs to this day. If TPIR were to go off the air, and a revival was to occur a few years afterwards, I probably won\'t care for the revived version.
Dance Fever falls in the category of \"retro\" - definitely more interesting than Dancing with the Stars and any 21st century show.
Then again, it may be possible that my TV watching has gone down in the last decade in favor of - you guessed it - the \"mighty computer\".
I know I am not going to like
If this holds true, and GSN airs 8 weeks of reruns, then season 2 should start November 19th.
I\'m not going to start a new thread for this, since this seems to be the go-to Chase thread until the premiere in just over an hour. If you are on GetGlue, there is a sticker for checking into The Chase. Good move by GSN. Offering a GetGlue sticker should get more eyeballs to watch the show tonight. (On second thought, maybe I should start a thread about GetGlue game show stickers...)
I have to say that I\'m surprised at how well GSN is promoting this. Yesterday, I heard a promo for The Chase at least twice while I was listening to Pandora. I really hope this does well.
An excellent thirty-second promo ran between the two maingame rounds of Jeopardy! on Monday night.
I did watch some of the clips provided much earlier in this thread, and I am intrigued as to how GSN pulls this off.
I saw the two eps last night. One of the best shows GSN has produced. The second show was definitely exciting. I\'m hooked and will record all the shows.
Is it wrong to say that The Chase is this decade\'s Russian Roulette? I say this because I\'ve enjoyed watching the double run (rerun) last night.
Is it wrong to say that The Chase is this decade\'s Russian Roulette? I say this because I\'ve enjoyed watching the double run (rerun) last night.
Huh? Can you please clarify this, because I interpreted it as \"the two shows are comparable because I enjoyed watching both of them,\" which would allow me to say that America\'s Got Howards and Hotties is this decade\'s House. So clearly I\'m not understanding you.
I think what he means is exactly what I felt, that The Chase as a GSN original is just as awesome as Russian Roulette was for GSN in the last decade.
If that\'s the scale then I think that The Chase is the 2010s Friend or Foe.
Funny you bring that up. While The Chase is an import from the UK, the endgame concept from..... that, was tried over there...
Granted, Prisoner\'s Dilemma isn\'t a new idea, but still...
<EDIT; Unnecessary link removed out of shame>
OK then, let me try again.
GSN has had a lot of crap on over the years. It\'s nice to see something from them that isn\'t crap.
And let\'s face it: they\'ve had a lot of crap.
If you\'re running two episodes back-to-back, wouldn\'t you put the big exciting one where the team wins an enormous cash prize first, as opposed to the Labbett Lambasting where he wins with 40 seconds in his pocket? It is also odd to call him The Beast when there\'s no (or little) context to go with that.
That\'s why it\'s a viable option to run the trashing first - to establish that this guy that almost no viewers know anything about is what he says he is. While running the win first makes for excitement, it could leave the viewer thinking \"wow, he got beat on the first episode? Some Beast.\" There are pluses, minuses and logical reasons for both placement decisions.
I think what he means is exactly what I felt, that The Chase as a GSN original is just as awesome as Russian Roulette was for GSN in the last decade.
This. Thank you.
And my point (which seems to be in the minority, which is fine, that\'s how opinions go) is that The Chase isn\'t as great as all that. They got a lot of stuff wrong, and more\'s the pity because they had a great template to work from.
From my viewpoint, a lot of the stuff that is wrong can be fixed. The pacing and execution flaws can be cleaned up as everyone gets more familiar with the show. There has to be a full minute or two of runtime that can be better plotted, and I hope the direction for Season 2 will do that.
I\'m sad to say that the whole show just left me feeling flat...and \"The Beast\" was just too boorish for my taste...while Anne Robinson was more the vicious school marm type, this guy just comes across as kind of a know-it-all playground bully to me...
But that\'s just me...
JakeT
Here are the flaws Easy questions spread out over commercial breaks. Final team building round forces teams of more than one to hesitate before buzzing in. The Beast should answer the same questions as the team in final round. Let down when all that money goes away when The Beast wins. Contestants who make it to final round should get some consolation prize.
Here are the flaws Easy questions spread out over commercial breaks. Final team building round forces teams of more than one to hesitate before buzzing in. The Beast should answer the same questions as the team in final round. Let down when all that money goes away when The Beast wins. Contestants who make it to final round should get some consolation prize.
All those are present in the British version as well though, and that version\'s been going on for years. The problem with letting the Chaser answer the same questions is the team wouldn\'t be able to steal questions he got wrong. And it\'s not really a let down when the Chaser wins when you think of that as the expected outcome. The Chaser wins a lot more often than he loses. The occasions when he does become rare celebratory moments.
Because I see that GSN still blows Chunks at providing useful guide data in terms of telling me when something is first-run versus a repeat (and thereby completely farking up TiVo\'s Season Pass setup), I need to get some confirmation: the new episode airs Tuesday at 8 Eastern, yes? (And is there one or two? The way GSN is representing the repeat schedule, it looks like there\'s two one-hour episodes in a block.)
It looks like I\'m gonna have to set this up by hand so it doesn\'t record the same episode six thousand times. :P
Let down when all that money goes away when The Beast wins. .
How is that different than any other game show where contestants have a chance to win a lot of money and lose in the end?
the new episode airs Tuesday at 8 Eastern, yes?
This Tuesday [and, assumedly, every Tuesday from now on] has one new episode at 9PM ET.
Let down when all that money goes away when The Beast wins. .
How is that different than any other game show where contestants have a chance to win a lot of money and lose in the end?
the new episode airs Tuesday at 8 Eastern, yes?
This Tuesday [and, assumedly, every Tuesday from now on] has one new episode at 9PM ET.
So the 8:00P show is (likely) the previous week\'s, and then the new one?
So the 8:00P show is (likely) the previous week\'s, and then the new one?
On my (and GSN\'s) schedule right now, it shows a new Minute to Win It at 8PM, followed by a new Chase for Tuesday nights.
So the 8:00P show is (likely) the previous week\'s, and then the new one?
On my (and GSN\'s) schedule right now, it shows a new Minute to Win It at 8PM, followed by a new Chase for Tuesday nights.
Ah, okay, they just double-pumped for the premiere. Got it. Thank you!
Surely that excludes the middle ground, doesn\'t it? I\'ve gone over this before; don\'t look at is as a reward for losing, look at it as the exchange of one favor for another. That isn\'t coddling, that\'s being respectful of a person\'s time. If you had lost the final chase would you have turned down $100 per right answer in the Final Chase?
I think part of the problem is the uncertain make up of the team at the end. Does everyone get $100 a step if Labette catches them? If they do, then you can expect to dole out about $4000-$5000 to a losing team, which is not insignificant to the prize budget. If they don\'t and it\'s split among the team, then what\'s to stop an unscrupulous player from telling his teammates to go balls to the wall in the opening chase, so they can flame out and he can guarantee himself an easy grand if he makes it on his own? (And don\'t think there weren\'t people in the contestant pool for whom that would be a consideration.)
Besides that, it\'s a clumsy resolution for a game that\'s billed as some sort of cranial gladiatorial combat. Oh, sorry, you\'ve been caught and your chase is over. Here\'s $1000.
I think the show did a good enough job going across the country looking for worthy adversaries to the Beast that coddling them with a loser\'s purse isn\'t necessary. Now, if the contestant search was LA-only, knowing fully well that they were serving up fresh mutton for Labette, then I\'d be changing my tune.
I think the show did a good enough job going across the country looking for worthy adversaries to the Beast that coddling them with a loser\'s purse isn\'t necessary.
If they\'re flying them in on their dime and taking care of their lodging during their stay (and it doesn\'t sound like they are) maybe. If they aren\'t and they are encouraging out-of-the-area contestants, I don\'t think kicking them a buck or two for their trouble is the worst thing.
this guy just comes across as kind of a know-it-all playground bully to me...
I don\'t get this *at all*. If anything, I found Labbett endearing and dare I say outright respectful. He\'s there to do a job, he\'s doing it, he\'s good at it, and he knows he\'s good at it...and he shows all props in the face of an impressive performance, even if he\'s directly bested by it.
He\'s supposed to be smarmy, but he throws in enough of a wink and a nod and an \"it\'s just a game ultimately\" attitude with it that it doesn\'t bother me in the slightest.
If they\'re flying them in on their dime and taking care of their lodging during their stay (and it doesn\'t sound like they are) maybe.
Chase contestants from out of the area were/are treated fairly well by the network/production company (flights, hotel, per diem), something out of the ordinary for a GSN game.
(Also: I thought Mark came off more approachable or amicable and like a \"good guy\" who just happens to have a brain load of knowledge here than he does in the UK version.)
Chase contestants from out of the area were/are treated fairly well by the network/production company (flights, hotel, per diem), something out of the ordinary for a GSN game.
Ah. Good on \'em, then. :)
For one, it would help your cause to spell his name right.I think part of the problem is the uncertain make up of the team at the end. Does everyone get $100 a step if Labette catches them? If they do, then you can expect to dole out about $4000-$5000 to a losing team, which is not insignificant to the prize budget. If they don\'t and it\'s split among the team, then what\'s to stop an unscrupulous player from telling his teammates to go balls to the wall in the opening chase, so they can flame out and he can guarantee himself an easy grand if he makes it on his own? (And don\'t think there weren\'t people in the contestant pool for whom that would be a consideration.)
Besides that, it\'s a clumsy resolution for a game that\'s billed as some sort of cranial gladiatorial combat. Oh, sorry, you\'ve been caught and your chase is over. Here\'s $1000.
I think the show did a good enough job going across the country looking for worthy adversaries to the Beast that coddling them with a loser\'s purse isn\'t necessary. Now, if the contestant search was LA-only, knowing fully well that they were serving up fresh mutton for Labette, then I\'d be changing my tune.
What\'s the matter with it now?
If they\'re flying them in on their dime and taking care of their lodging during their stay (and it doesn\'t sound like they are)
They are.
If they aren\'t and they are encouraging out-of-the-area contestants, I don\'t think kicking them a buck or two for their trouble is the worst thing.
How about $300? That was the out-of-town per diem.
For two, explain to me why throwing people some money, either to cover their costs or as a consolation, is coddling.
Because the people who get on this show purport themselves to be trivia whizzes, and a good many of them belong to the subset of quiz nerds who think they\'re entitled to six-figure windfalls because they can smart. I had to share a green room with one of them for six hours. They don\'t want your stinkin\' $100 per right answer, they want $100,000 and the glory that comes with it.
For three, you\'re overreading my \"solution.\" I don\'t care if everyone gets $50 for every question they answer throughout the show, or whatever. I was actually using the idea you put forward, that the team would score some money for every step that the Chaser had to take to catch the team. What\'s the matter with it now?
That was before I realized that British game show contestants, unlike those out here in general, are generally comped for transportation and lodging for their time.
How about $300? That was the out-of-town per diem.
For two, explain to me why throwing people some money, either to cover their costs or as a consolation, is coddling.
this guy just comes across as kind of a know-it-all playground bully to me...
I don\'t get this *at all*. If anything, I found Labbett endearing and dare I say outright respectful. He\'s there to do a job, he\'s doing it, he\'s good at it, and he knows he\'s good at it...and he shows all props in the face of an impressive performance, even if he\'s directly bested by it.
He\'s supposed to be smarmy, but he throws in enough of a wink and a nod and an \"it\'s just a game ultimately\" attitude with it that it doesn\'t bother me in the slightest.
Well, I\'m willing to accept that I might have just gotten a wrong first impression when I watched it and am going to give it another look in the chance I might have simply been in the wrong state of mind at the time I was watching it and just misread the whole thing...frankly, with where my head has been lately, I wouldn\'t be at all surprised to find this being the case...so, I withdraw my criticism...for now...:)
JakeT
What does that have to do with anything?Yeah, I don\'t really have a problem with that. But then, I\'m a filthy socialist.
I got free round-trip airfare, two nights of free accommodations, a couple of meals, and $200 cash. I didn\'t even get on the show. If I had, however, and got my ass handed to me by one Mark Labbett, I certainly wouldn\'t have thought, \"well, all that for nothing.\"
It\'s not made clear to the viewers at home (me) that the contestants are compensated for being on the show. I feel a little better that they \"leave with nothing\" in that case. Why not reveal that they do get accomodations, etc.?
Why not reveal that they do get accomodations, etc.?
Because it\'s none of your business, and most folks don\'t care.
Because it\'s none of your business, and most folks don\'t care.
\"Good answer! Good answer!\"
Are the incentives Sodboy described the norm for shows where contestants \"leave with nothing\"? I\'d damn sure take the free airfare, accommodations and per diem over the Turtle Wax, Rice-a-Roni, and Garanimals of days past.
I know Millionaire provided a free trip to New York and a hotel room back in the Phone-a-Friend days...not sure on the per diem.
Why not reveal that they do get accomodations, etc.?
Because it\'s none of your business, and most folks don\'t care.
I\'m assuming The Beast gets paid when he loses.
I\'m assuming The Beast gets paid when he loses.
Since he\'s an employee of the production, unlike the contestants, probably so.
\"These three players will work as a team to potentially win hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash. Standing in their way, however, is The Beast. And if they can\'t defeat him, they\'ll leave with nothing.\"
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\"These three players will work as a team to potentially win hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash. Standing in their way, however, is The Beast. And if they can\'t defeat him, they\'ll leave with a per diem small enough to not require a 1099.\"
The mistake of trolling repeatedly with those familiar with your schtick, you see, is that everyone just regards you as a boob. Consider some fresh waters.
Brandon: I don\'t know what the \"norm\" is across the genre, but speaking from my own experience, I received flights, lodging, and $150 when I did Million Dollar Password. My understanding is that the $1,000 prize minimums on Wheel & Jeopardy are their way of making up for not covering contestants\' airfare and hotels. And I would think crowd shows like TPIR & LMAD guarantee squat, outside of Price\'s \"contestants not appearing on stage\" gift.
. And I would think crowd shows like TPIR & LMAD guarantee squat, outside of Price\'s \"contestants not appearing on stage\" gift.
They actually get money now; somewhere in the realm of $300, I believe.
\"These three players will work as a team to potentially win hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash. Standing in their way, however, is The Beast. And if they can\'t defeat him, they\'ll leave with nothing.\"
-or-
\"These three players will work as a team to potentially win hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash. Standing in their way, however, is The Beast. And if they can\'t defeat him, they\'ll leave with a per diem small enough to not require a 1099.\"
The mistake of trolling repeatedly with those familiar with your schtick, you see, is that everyone just regards you as a boob. Consider some fresh waters.
Brandon: I don\'t know what the \"norm\" is across the genre, but speaking from my own experience, I received flights, lodging, and $150 when I did Million Dollar Password. My understanding is that the $1,000 prize minimums on Wheel & Jeopardy are their way of making up for not covering contestants\' airfare and hotels. And I would think crowd shows like TPIR & LMAD guarantee squat, outside of Price\'s \"contestants not appearing on stage\" gift.
I\'m not asking that they put it in the opening. Maybe have the host say something to the effect of \"we\'ve got $300 in consolation prize for each of you.\"
But it\'s not a consolation prize, it\'s a per diem. Every contestant gets it whether they win or lose.
And let\'s be honest: the only reason consolation prizes ever existed in the first place was because it was a way for advertisers to get their plug in at the end of the show. That\'s pretty much gone the way of the dodo now - at least, it\'s no longer \"some of our departing contestants will receive\" and turned into \"promotional considerations provided by\".
But it\'s not a consolation prize, it\'s a per diem. Every contestant gets it whether they win or lose.
And let\'s be honest: the only reason consolation prizes ever existed in the first place was because it was a way for advertisers to get their plug in at the end of the show. That\'s pretty much gone the way of the dodo now - at least, it\'s no longer \"some of our departing contestants will receive\" and turned into \"promotional considerations provided by\".
I\'m glad that was cleared up. I\'m just glad the contestants get something before they \"leave with nothing.\"
. And I would think crowd shows like TPIR & LMAD guarantee squat, outside of Price\'s \"contestants not appearing on stage\" gift.
They actually get money now; somewhere in the realm of $300, I believe.
When my wife didn\'t make it out of Contestant\'s Row ten years ago next month, she was given prizes totaling about $800. Though you can turn straight cash into anything you want, it\'s still nice to see our two prizes nearly every day ten years after the fact (a bar set and a scrubber-vac).
That brings up an interesting fact about TPIR (using my wife\'s parting gifts as an example): A person who doesn\'t make it up on stage could potentially take home more than someone who does win their IUFB but tanks out the rest of the way. I\'d need to watch that episode again to see if any of the 6 winners did win an IUFB under $800 but lost their pricing game.
With the flat cash consolation prize in play now, it may not be a possibility anymore, but it was certainly plausible in the Barker era.
What I\'m curious about: is Mark paid in a WBSM fashion; does he get paid more if he wins the Final Chase?
What I\'m curious about: is Mark paid in a WBSM fashion; does he get paid more if he wins the Final Chase?
Highly unlikely.
At times like this I am reminded of the Music Geek whose name I can never remember because he wasn\'t good enough
Andy Zax. Always stuck in my head.
Don\'t think so, but then again I am not the Beat The Geeks Geek. :)
Really? I thought Andy was the replace-er and not the replace-ee.
If you know about Bozo, then it was a shot.
Not bad.
This deserves to be noteworthy:
For the week of August 12-18, an 11-year old rerun of Whammy! on Saturday morning at 10am/7 Pacific beat out new runs of The Chase and Minute to Win It.
Still love those two new originals but they\'re not inflating the ratings, when you look at the whole list.
Look at the numbers. That Whammy! repeat got 400,000 viewers, way better than any number it pulled at any other time slot.
Not seeing your point, outside of deliberately being misleading.
Tyshaun
Casey Abell\'s advanced schedules show The Chase is off the schedule besides a Tuesday afternoon rerun starting the week of September 9th. Can\'t get the pdf\'s up for September 9-15.
Minute to Win It (Ohno) 8pm: 335K total; 50K 18-49
The Chase 9pm: 506K total; 130K 18-49
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