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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: gsnstooge on December 17, 2003, 03:53:20 PM
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What game show finale episodes were mentioned on the episode that it was last and which ones weren't. For example on the last epsiode of Classic Concentration, no mention was made.
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You've opened up quite a can of worms, my friend; do you know HOW many game shows can be listed here? Every last one! :)
However, I will say two shows which I thought deserved mention of the last episode but didn't:
Press Your Luck
Match Game (all '70s versions)
To make it a little more feasible to answer, I'll rephrase the question: What game shows didn't get a mention of the final episode, but should have?
Anthony
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I believe $100,000 Pyramid (Clark) did not get a mention. They had a tournament the final week which ended in three or four days (it is the one tournament that I actually have not seen :-( ) and picked up right where the returning contestant left off. However, there was no mention of how to become eligible for the next tourney (since there wouldn't be a next one) and on the Friday episode, both players winnings were phrased in the "you didn't win but you leave us with..." tone of voice.
The end was implied, but I don't think it was ever expressed.
Now Super Password, that had a good final episode (goodbye magic toaster). I'll have to dig up the tape of the Y2Play marathon when I'm home for break.
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[quote name=\'Little Big Brother\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:55 PM\'] The end was implied, but I don't think it was ever expressed. [/quote]
The end didn't get a mention from Clark, but did from celebrity player Henry Polic II. After the final Winner's Circle, you can hear Polic mention that the $300 box (something like "Things that Finish") was Bob Stewart's way of mentioning the end of the show.
Then, in the final wrap-up, Polic thanks a bunch of the behind-the-scenes folks.
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 11:10 PM\'] [quote name=\'Little Big Brother\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:55 PM\'] The end was implied, but I don't think it was ever expressed. [/quote]
The end didn't get a mention from Clark, but did from celebrity player Henry Polic II. After the final Winner's Circle, you can hear Polic mention that the $300 box (something like "Things that Finish") was Bob Stewart's way of mentioning the end of the show.
Then, in the final wrap-up, Polic thanks a bunch of the behind-the-scenes folks. [/quote]
However, the champion from the finale of $100K in 1988 returned for the Davidson $100 premiere.
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A lot of shows, like Classic Concentration dont mention its the final show as the show continued to air on the network in reruns. I recall Card Sharks Perry having a final ep and CBN running a crawl at the bottom telling viewers that reruns would continue to air.
John
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 11:24 PM\'] However, the champion from the finale of $100K in 1988 returned for the Davidson $100 premiere. [/quote]
"The $100 Pyramid" ! Wow, thats cheep.
Speaking of the last CC episode. It's very obvious watcing it tha Alex is very bitter the show is closing, a LOT of sarcastic comments are made, at the end of the episode Alex says in a rather somber voice: "We've enjoyed having you with us... so long everyone."
It didn't help he had to endure two of the most ANNOYING contestants in the History of Modern Game Shows in the first half.
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 11:46 PM\'] A lot of shows, like Classic Concentration dont mention its the final show as the show continued to air on the network in reruns. I recall Card Sharks Perry having a final ep and CBN running a crawl at the bottom telling viewers that reruns would continue to air.
John [/quote]
IIRC, the original broadcast (?) of the Perry CS finale on the trading circuit had a similar message for whatever station it was being shown on. And indeed, episodes were reran a couple of years after the show went off the air. I remember seeing Perry CS on KYW-3 (then Philly's NBC) around 1982-83. Think they aired at noon?
Regarding the $100K Pyramid finale...they liked to do that, didn't they? (See also: "Things that come to an end" in the $20K finale) The last Davidson episode was weird, as I think they acknowledged it being the last but still, John did the "see you next week" spiel. And didn't the last Eubanks CS have a ticket plug, or am I imagining things?!!?
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Just like CS '78, CS '86 also had their finale mentioned, and it was mentioned by a very emotional Bob Eubanks. And like CS '78, the closing credits rolled one last time.
The finale of the first Dawson version of FF was mentioned by a very emotional Richard, who mentioned why he'd kiss women, etc., etc. If only he could've kissed women on the 1994 version (and I don't know why he chose not to kiss women in the 1994 version. Anyone want to help me out?)...
However, for his successor, Ray Combs, the finale (which I think was mentioned) did NOT go so well. The winning family scored only 77 points in Fast Money, for $385. The second player was dumber than the first, and made 3 goose eggs.
Ray said that "It was the first (and I hopefully wish it were the LAST) time someone got no points in Fast Money, and that's a mighty damn fine way to go out. I thought I was a loser until you walked up here..."
We'd see him leave the stage during the final segment (closing credits), and after that, he just left the studio building, and immediately got in his car and drove away. And we all know it was only downhill from there, from a not so successful Family Challenge, to his marriage problems, to the ultimate point: His suicide, which he left NO note, after hanging himself in an LA hospital.
(100 posts, and still going strong!)
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:56 PM\'] (and I don't know why he chose not to kiss women in the 1994 version. Anyone want to help me out?)...
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The way he told the story to Jay Leno, he was showing a recording of the show to his young daughter, who asked him why he was kissing someone who wasn't Mommy. He decided at that moment there would be no more kissing.
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[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 12:39 AM\']The last Davidson episode was weird, as I think they acknowledged it being the last but still, John did the "see you next week" spiel.[/quote]
Actually, I'm pretty sure that as that episode was taped, they were confident that the show would be back in production after the holidays. I auditioned for the game in December 1991, and the contestant coordinators said there would be two more weeks of new shows taped before their hiatus, one of them being the tournament week. Given that they weren't taping during my trip, I don't think they would have let me fly in from Pittsburgh to audition if they thought the show would not be returning from hiatus.
Also, add "Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour" to the list of shows that never got a final-episode mention.
Brendan
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[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:32 PM\']What game shows didn't get a mention of the final episode, but should have?[/quote]
On Family Double Dare's finale, Marc never made mention of it being the end of the series. Instead, he said, "Stay tuned next year for the 1994 Tournament of Champions!", which is kind of ironic because during the final season Marc noted on the air: "We're back with all new episodes, unless of course then if it's 1996, then sorry!" A mention probably should have been made, as FDD was canceled after the 92-93 season. Oh well...
Joe
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I remember on Jackpot '90, no mention and Geoff said something like "See you on Monday.
What about NYSI '89, Caesear's Challenge, Trivia Trap, Just Men, Bargain Hunters (even if you don't care), Blackout, and the original Battlestars?
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 12:09 AM\']
Speaking of the last CC episode. It's very obvious watcing it tha Alex is very bitter the show is closing, a LOT of sarcastic comments are made, at the end of the episode Alex says in a rather somber voice: "We've enjoyed having you with us... so long everyone."
It didn't help he had to endure two of the most ANNOYING contestants in the History of Modern Game Shows in the first half.
-Joe R. [/quote]
Apparently Alex tried to convince NBC to do new episodes of Concentration shortly after the reruns began. The reruns(which were only year-old reruns when the show first started airing, then by early 1993 they jumped back to 1987-88 shows) were getting just as decent ratings as the first run shows were.
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[quote name=\'jw2001\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 02:00 AM\'][quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:32 PM\']What game shows didn't get a mention of the final episode, but should have?[/quote]
On Family Double Dare's finale, Marc never made mention of it being the end of the series. Instead, he said, "Stay tuned next year for the 1994 Tournament of Champions!", which is kind of ironic because during the final season Marc noted on the air: "We're back with all new episodes, unless of course then if it's 1996, then sorry!" A mention probably should have been made, as FDD was canceled after the 92-93 season. Oh well...[/quote]
That's how it is for most cable shows, since they usually tape the whole season in one period of time weeks (if not months) before the shows even air. Marc was probably confident that they'd be back for another series--and after seven years on the air in (mostly) first-run production (and that group of "Family" shows was among the strongest "DD" eps in the series, thanks to those fathers who did almost every stunt with no hesitation and great gusto--they were truly fun to watch), I wouldn't blame him for being confident.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 07:59 AM\'] [quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 12:09 AM\']
Speaking of the last CC episode. It's very obvious watcing it tha Alex is very bitter the show is closing, a LOT of sarcastic comments are made, at the end of the episode Alex says in a rather somber voice: "We've enjoyed having you with us... so long everyone."
It didn't help he had to endure two of the most ANNOYING contestants in the History of Modern Game Shows in the first half.
-Joe R. [/quote]
Apparently Alex tried to convince NBC to do new episodes of Concentration shortly after the reruns began. The reruns(which were only year-old reruns when the show first started airing, then by early 1993 they jumped back to 1987-88 shows) were getting just as decent ratings as the first run shows were. [/quote]
Speaking of Alex Trebek, did he have some kind of excusive contract to NBC. I don't recall him hosting any shows on another network after Double Dare.
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SCRABBLE93 and SCATTERGORIES made no mention of their cancellations (of course, both showed reruns their final few weeks). I never saw the daytime finales for WoF or CC (the final week of WoF never aired in Chicago in favor of WMAQ's new 9AM news program, and although the final week of CC did air in Chicago [run three hours later] I didn't see it and forgot to tape it).
Then there were shows that did mention their cancellation but did it in a rather cheesy way--through editing. The 12/31/87 and 7/1/88 finales of PYRAMID had a snipped-in Dick Clark announcing that it was the end of the run, and if I recall correctly the finale of LAS VEGAS GAMBIT had a videotape of Wink in a circular effect (like those used on programs that are signed for the hearing-impaired, or Garrett Morris' translations of "Weekend Update") as the program was ending, or maybe it was just a voiceover.
Doug
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 11:09 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 11:24 PM\'] However, the champion from the finale of $100K in 1988 returned for the Davidson $100 premiere. [/quote]
"The $100 Pyramid" ! Wow, thats cheep. [/quote]
Yes, they played the 7-11 for $7.11.
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"Hit Man" made mention of its finale with the famous contestant plug -
"If you'd like to be a contestant on Hit Man, forget it!"
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 12:46 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 07:59 AM\'] [quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 12:09 AM\']
Speaking of the last CC episode. It's very obvious watcing it tha Alex is very bitter the show is closing, a LOT of sarcastic comments are made, at the end of the episode Alex says in a rather somber voice: "We've enjoyed having you with us... so long everyone."
It didn't help he had to endure two of the most ANNOYING contestants in the History of Modern Game Shows in the first half.
-Joe R. [/quote]
Apparently Alex tried to convince NBC to do new episodes of Concentration shortly after the reruns began. The reruns(which were only year-old reruns when the show first started airing, then by early 1993 they jumped back to 1987-88 shows) were getting just as decent ratings as the first run shows were. [/quote]
Speaking of Alex Trebek, did he have some kind of excusive contract to NBC. I don't recall him hosting any shows on another network after Double Dare. [/quote]
Don't know if it would count for much, but weren't at least one of the pilots he did done for ABC? Either "Mama Non Mama" and/or "Lucky Numbers."
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Summers DD you can tell had lost it's chemstry without Harvey and the fact you couldnt have a find the flag in the mess of gak obsticle without summers going 100% bonkers if the player didnt find it in 5 seconds (dunno if it was Summer's ocd manifesting itself on the air but it was wierd) As for the 1996 comment, i often thought he may have learned of nick's (wholesale) plans to spin all non SNICK originals into reruns regardless of ratings... ironically the last cycle of FDD93 reruns was in 1996. A practice that I truly believe was a great white fin in the water for the quality of programming on Nick.
Because of the ability of kids shows to be rerun to a fresh audience early and often i believe there hasn't been a kids game show that has mentioned its finalie outright.
Although I do remember a Pick your Brain incident where summers brings someone's daughter in an college sweater marked "MIT: Moshie's institite of technology (and acting) some sort of inside joke and or a bringing out of backstage folk. Someone remember this incident. (tangent: I liked PYB, certainly the highest prize ever offered on a kids game show, if only the relyance on fee plugs to pay the bills wasnt there and better acting on the Hit Man style interviews were there we may have had a hit)
(of course one of the most famous finalies in TV history was a kids show when Clarbell says "good bye, kids" on the last howdy doody)
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I remember on Jackpot '90, no mention and Geoff said something like "See you on Monday.
Of course, this is because the show's syndicator hadn't any money to make a proper final episode, as they went bankrupt.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 03:06 PM\']
Speaking of Alex Trebek, did he have some kind of excusive contract to NBC. I don't recall him hosting any shows on another network after Double Dare. [/QUOTE]
Don't know if it would count for much, but weren't at least one of the pilots he did done for ABC? Either "Mama Non Mama" and/or "Lucky Numbers." [/quote]
M'Ama was done for ABC, as was Second Guess(a pilot Alex did for Marty "Catch Phrase" Pasetta for a couples Q&A show c. 1986, as Splitsecond pointed out a while back) and don't forget Trebek did Super Jeopardy! for ABC.
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[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 12:39 AM\'] . And indeed, episodes were reran a couple of years after the show went off the air. I remember seeing Perry CS on KYW-3 (then Philly's NBC) around 1982-83. Think they aired at noon?
And didn't the last Eubanks CS have a ticket plug, or am I imagining things?!!? [/quote]
Perry CS reruns did air on a lot of stations from 1982-84. KYW ran it at 11:30AM early on(aired it instead of Hit Man in fact), and then moved it to 12:30PM EST(replacing Search for Tomorrow) when Dream House debuted and they picked DH up. CBN ran Perry CS in 1984-85.
EUbanks CS's finale did indeed have a contestant plug for their San Diego office IIRC about midway through the episode.
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[quote name=\'gsnstooge\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 07:57 AM\']
What about NYSI '89, Caesear's Challenge, Trivia Trap, Just Men, Bargain Hunters (even if you don't care), Blackout, and the original Battlestars? [/quote]
NYSI89, Blackout, and Trivia Trap did indeed have their finales mentioned. The original Battlestars did not have Alex mention the finale, but the finale of the 1983 revival did have a proper goodbye(ALex said during the show that the New Battlestars would soon the The Old Battlestars). Blackout's was notable in that JOhnny Gilbert was ill for that last taping, and Jay Stewart filled in. It was Stewart's last time announcing a game show, though he still was an agent for game show talent before his Fall 1989 suicide. I didn't see the last Caesar or Just Men episode(though JM was axed fairly quickly, reportedly after Grant Tinker was home ill one day and saw the show and decided it wasn't a good vehicle for Betty WHite), and Bargain Hunters didn't have a goodbye as I recall.
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The end didn't get a mention from Clark, but did from celebrity player Henry Polic II. After the final Winner's Circle, you can hear Polic mention that the $300 box (something like "Things that Finish") was Bob Stewart's way of mentioning the end of the show.
Then, in the final wrap-up, Polic thanks a bunch of the behind-the-scenes folks.
Also, both Polic and fellow celeb Teresa Ganzel were dressed in formal wear for the ep so they supposedly wouldn't have to change for the wrap party afterwards.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 10:04 PM\'] Also, both Polic and fellow celeb Teresa Ganzel were dressed in formal wear for the ep so they supposedly wouldn't have to change for the wrap party afterwards.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
Alex and the stars did the same thing on the final episode of TTTT in 1991.
The mention was also made at the end too, with Alex saying something to the effect of: "... and I'm confident the show will return again very soon and when it does, I would love to be a part of it again as well."
Thank goodness it wasn't unill 2000 that it did come back !
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 11:13 PM\'] Thank goodness it wasn't unill 2000 that it did come back ! [/quote]
Speak for yourself. I thought TTTT '90 (or '91 or whatever) was exceptional.
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the fact you couldnt have a find the flag in the mess of gak obsticle without summers going 100% bonkers if the player didnt find it in 5 seconds
I didn't notice this as much as other things he said that season. All '92, he was railing on people during physical challenges like that. "Ohhhhhh, they're never gonna do it now!" he might say if they fell off the log once in the "cross Lake Double Dare" challenge.
-Jason
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Yeah i remember the PC railing too, the patricular thing bout the find the flag obsticles that got me was he would just go on and on bout ppl being hired to place the flag. When I first saw him doing that I thought it was because of the infamous Nightmare incident where twice the crew DIDNT place the flag but the nightmare incident was in the 1st season (but only made public in 1990 in the behind the slop video) and he was carrying on in the show's 7th season???
He would be like "Its gotta be in there, its gotta be in there, we pay people to put that in there" (To get the full effect first drink 4 espressos and then ignore the spaces i put in there and repeat 50 times and you will see what Im meaning)
I dunno i just think the final FDD season was getting tired, but it wasnt that bad aside that it was quite possibly one of the more rerun abused (non aminated) nick shows out there
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 03:24 AM\'] [quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 11:13 PM\'] Thank goodness it wasn't unill 2000 that it did come back ! [/quote]
Speak for yourself. I thought TTTT '90 (or '91 or whatever) was exceptional. [/quote]
I wasn't talking about the show, which I totally agree was excellent. I was refering to having Trebek hosting it again. He really wasn't that good on the show, Alex just isn't good with all-celeb shows.
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 10:25 AM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 03:24 AM\'] [quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 11:13 PM\'] Thank goodness it wasn't unill 2000 that it did come back ! [/quote]
Speak for yourself. I thought TTTT '90 (or '91 or whatever) was exceptional. [/quote]
I wasn't talking about the show, which I totally agree was excellent. I was refering to having Trebek hosting it again. He really wasn't that good on the show, Alex just isn't good with all-celeb shows.
-Joe R. [/quote]
Trebek wasn't maybe in Gordon Elliott's league(at least for TTTT), but he was a bit better than Lynn Swann. Trebek was the only person to host three five-day-a-week shows when he did TTTT(Jeopardy! and Classic Concentration of course were the others). All those shows, plus a new baby(Mark Goodson of course subbed for Alex for two shows early in Trebek's tenure because his wife was giving birth), probably wore him down a bit.
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I can think of a few that haven't been mentioned yet. (To make things easier, and much shorter, I'll stick to the ones that didn't mention it.)
The Moneymaze did not; in fact, it ran reruns in its last week, all with $10,000 winners (and the last episode was a rerun of the last first-run ep which aired seven days earlier).
Also, the original Sale of the Century didn't mention it on the show itself; the winning couple said that they were coming back on the next show, but over the closing credits, the announcer said that since this was the last episode, the producers decided to give them their prize (I think it was a trip to Acapulco) anyway.
Considering how many times a "last episode" thread starts up, maybe there should be a "permanent" thread with a list of them? (Everything from the Rhyme & Reason set and the Dream House house win to the "cancellation bell" of Bill Cullen's Blankety Blanks...)
-- Don (and I still think ABC never aired the last Family Feud on the west coast, or at least in the San Francisco area; I remember taping it and remarking that they say that the winning family would be back "on the next show"...)
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 11:30 AM\']
-- Don (and I still think ABC never aired the last Family Feud on the west coast, or at least in the San Francisco area; I remember taping it and remarking that they say that the winning family would be back "on the next show"...) [/quote]
I'm beginning to think the "last show" was never aired on ABC. I remember taping the show on that last Friday of "Feud" off WXYZ-TV in Detroit and it certainly didn't have the speech seen on GSN. I have the tape around somewhere (finding it is another story.)
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 10:30 AM\'] -- Don (and I still think ABC never aired the last Family Feud on the west coast, or at least in the San Francisco area; I remember taping it and remarking that they say that the winning family would be back "on the next show"...) [/quote]
You know, it's funny. I have the same recollection and I'm in Chicago. It seemed that the final episode of FF was just a normal episode when I viewed the tape later that day (without any standing ovations from the audience or speeches from Dawson--it wasn't until I saw it for the first time during the Y2Play marathon that I was aware any such episode had existed). Up till now, I had always assumed that maybe I had just taped the wrong day once I saw the episode, but maybe that wasn't the case.
Doug
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-- Don (and I still think ABC never aired the last Family Feud on the west coast, or at least in the San Francisco area; I remember taping it and remarking that they say that the winning family would be back "on the next show"...)
I'm beginning to think the "last show" was never aired on ABC. I remember taping the show on that last Friday of "Feud" off WXYZ-TV in Detroit and it certainly didn't have the speech seen on GSN. I have the tape around somewhere (finding it is another story.)
Is it possible that those stations were airing the show on a one-day delay? Maybe the finale actually aired on those stations the following Monday.
In my area, WOKR Rochester was running it at 10:30 a.m. on a one-day delay, so the finale did air on the Monday, instead of the Friday. The Buffalo ABC station didn't carry it at all the last couple of years.
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The original Battlestars did not have Alex mention the finale, but the finale of the 1983 revival did have a proper goodbye(ALex said during the show that the New Battlestars would soon the The Old Battlestars).
Alex didn't directly mention it, but at the end he didn't say they'd be back on Monday.
Although I like to hear the "goodbye" speeches on final episodes, and am disappointed when one isn't made, I wonder if sometimes the producer of the show just feels better to let it end rather than making a big deal about it. Afterall, it has to be upsetting to everyone involved that they won't be doing the show anymore.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 11:42 AM\'] [quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 10:30 AM\'] -- Don (and I still think ABC never aired the last Family Feud on the west coast, or at least in the San Francisco area; I remember taping it and remarking that they say that the winning family would be back "on the next show"...) [/quote]
You know, it's funny. I have the same recollection and I'm in Chicago. It seemed that the final episode of FF was just a normal episode when I viewed the tape later that day (without any standing ovations from the audience or speeches from Dawson--it wasn't until I saw it for the first time during the Y2Play marathon that I was aware any such episode had existed). Up till now, I had always assumed that maybe I had just taped the wrong day once I saw the episode, but maybe that wasn't the case.
Doug [/quote]
We reported on Usenet a couple of years ago that a plane crash occurred the day the Dawson ABC Feud finale aired, possibly preempting it in some cities. If the show aired in the afternoon in your area or on a one-day delay, it probably aired in those areas.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 09:25 AM\'] I wasn't talking about the show, which I totally agree was excellent. I was refering to having Trebek hosting it again. He really wasn't that good on the show, Alex just isn't good with all-celeb shows.
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I'm not sure I totally agree with that. I thought he was pretty good with BATTLESTARS. I'll admit that the 1981-82 version didn't do much for me, only because it was replacing CS on the schedule (and I was mad at NBC for dropping CS). But I let bygones be bygones for the 1983 version, which I enjoyed (apparently I was the only one ;) ). And I never had a problem with his TTTT work, or even his CELEBRITY J! forays.
Of course, that's just one man's opinion. I could be wrong.
Doug
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 10:43 AM\'] Is it possible that those stations were airing the show on a one-day delay? Maybe the finale actually aired on those stations the following Monday.
In my area, WOKR Rochester was running it at 10:30 a.m. on a one-day delay, so the finale did air on the Monday, instead of the Friday. The Buffalo ABC station didn't carry it at all the last couple of years. [/quote]
Anything's possible. At that time, CBS O&O WBBM ran all four CBS game shows on a one-day delay, so it wouldn't necessarily have been unusual for ABC O&O WLS to do the same thing (and no one would know the difference unless they kept stringent track)--although WLS did run FF at the same time as most of the rest of the network, so I have doubts that they had it on delay. I also don't recall WLS airing FF the following Monday (and heck, I don't remember what ABC replaced it with [five brownie points if someone other than Zach comes up with it first ;) ]).
Doug
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 11:49 AM\'] [quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 11:42 AM\'] [quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 10:30 AM\'] -- Don (and I still think ABC never aired the last Family Feud on the west coast, or at least in the San Francisco area; I remember taping it and remarking that they say that the winning family would be back "on the next show"...) [/quote]
You know, it's funny. I have the same recollection and I'm in Chicago. It seemed that the final episode of FF was just a normal episode when I viewed the tape later that day (without any standing ovations from the audience or speeches from Dawson--it wasn't until I saw it for the first time during the Y2Play marathon that I was aware any such episode had existed). Up till now, I had always assumed that maybe I had just taped the wrong day once I saw the episode, but maybe that wasn't the case.
Doug [/quote]
We reported on Usenet a couple of years ago that a plane crash occurred the day the Dawson ABC Feud finale aired, possibly preempting it in some cities. If the show aired in the afternoon in your area or on a one-day delay, it probably aired in those areas. [/quote]
Well, San Francisco, Chicago and Detroit (where I taped it) were ABC O&O cities in 1985, so what the network did, they did. When Cap Cities bought ABC in 1986 it transfered WXYZ to Scripps-Howard because Cap Cities wanted to keep their Detroit radio stations, after that WXYZ was free to pre-empt. Unless the O&O's were told to air a different FF show that day.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 12:12 PM\'] I also don't recall WLS airing FF the following Monday (and heck, I don't remember what ABC replaced it with [five brownie points if someone other than Zach comes up with it first ;) ]).
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It was reruns of Angie, which of course had an episode with the family appearing on Feud. They didn't use the real Feud set at the time for the Angie episode. Donna Pescow even appeared on All-Star Blitz at the time to promote reruns of a sitcom which went off the air three or four years earlier.
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I guess the question is "Does anyone remember seeing the last episode of FF with the farewell speech on ABC?" Three of us oldsters remember it not being on the last day of the run.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 12:30 PM\'] I guess the question is "Does anyone remember seeing the last episode of FF with the farewell speech on ABC?" Three of us oldsters remember it not being on the last day of the run. [/quote]
I honestly didn't know Feud was going off the ABC air(I read in January 1985 about the syndie version not returning for the 1985-86 season) until shortly after the last episode aired, so I didn't see the finale until GSN aired it as part of the 25th Anniversary of Feud marathon in July 2001.
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You mean this thread has gone into its second page and nobody's mentioned Rod Roddy's classic "you want to be a contestant" plug on "Hit Man?"
Edit...oops, sorry
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[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 02:06 PM\'] You mean this thread has gone into its second page and nobody's mentioned Rod Roddy's classic "you want to be a contestant" plug on "Hit Man?" [/quote]
Actually, PeterTomarkensGal did, yesterday. :-) Look about 19-20 posts down on the first page.
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[quote name=\'gsnstooge\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 06:57 AM\'] What about NYSI '89, Caesear's Challenge, Trivia Trap, Just Men, Bargain Hunters (even if you don't care), Blackout, and the original Battlestars? [/quote]
I can answer three of your questions!
CAESAR'S CHALLENGE: Ahmad Rashad never made a speech. It was a rerun. NBC had plans to air Caesar reruns until March, but they quickly changed their minds after the LA earthquakes hit!
BLACKOUT: Bob Goen addressed the audience after a $10,000 win thanking the viewers for tuning in.
JUST MEN!: On April Fool's Day 1983 (what a lucky day that was for me), the final week had Eric Brown (Buzz-Mama's Family) having the lucky Ford Mustang Convertible key all week long. No female won it on the 13th & final week. Betty White told the viewers it was a pleasure hosting that show & all the male celebs gave her a hug.
And when that was over, I cried...YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I felt like Dorothy throwing a bucket of water on The Game Show Witch!
WITCH: NO!!! I'M MELTING, I'M MELTING! LOOK WHAT YOU DONE? YOU DESTROYED MY WICKEDNESS. OH WHAT A WORLD, WHAT A WORLD! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Unfortunately 2 months later, the Witch had the last cackle when Betty ended up winning her Daytime Emmy for Just Men! Thank God & Greyhound the 1983 Daytime Emmys weren't televised or I would've thrown a John McEnroe tantrum (LOL)!
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CAESAR'S CHALLENGE: Ahmad Rashad never made a speech. It was a rerun. NBC had plans to air Caesar reruns until March, but they quickly changed their minds after the LA earthquakes hit!
I could never figure out how NBC was airing "Caesar's Challenge". For a week in August, and then again around Labor Day, they aired a week of reruns (maybe they didn't have enough episodes in the can at those points).
In late December and January, they skipped a few episodes, then aired a week of reruns, then it disappeared with no notice.
I remember seeing shows on the USA reruns that summer that I never saw on NBC.
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 01:23 PM\'] CAESAR'S CHALLENGE: Ahmad Rashad never made a speech. It was a rerun. NBC had plans to air Caesar reruns until March, but they quickly changed their minds after the LA earthquakes hit!
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but what does one have to do with the other? IIRC, CAESAR'S CHALLENGE and CLASSIC CONCENTRATION were replaced with Jane Whitney's talk show (OK, technically two weeks of CAESAR'S episodes replaced CONCENTRATION, then Whitney's show went off syndie and on network). So what exactly did the earthquakes have to do with the decision to lose the game shows two months earlier than expected?
Doug
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 03:54 PM\'] So what exactly did the earthquakes have to do with the decision to lose the game shows two months earlier than expected?
Doug [/quote]
When I heard about Caesar's pink slip locally, I called KPRC about it. The lady told me NBC plans to air reruns until March & that KPRC will replace it with syndicated Family Feud.
Caesar got yanked January 14. The LA earthquake hit on January 17 (Martin Luther King Day). NBC probably changed their minds about extending Ceasar reruns.
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 02:23 PM\']
Unfortunately 2 months later, the Witch had the last cackle when Betty ended up winning her Daytime Emmy for Just Men! Thank God & Greyhound the 1983 Daytime Emmys weren't televised or I would've thrown a John McEnroe tantrum (LOL)! [/quote]
INterestingly, since the Daytime Emmy eligibility period at the time was from March to February, Betty was nominated again in 1984 for her work on Just Men, but lost(to Bob Barker IIRC)
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 05:06 PM\'] When I heard about Caesar's pink slip locally, I called KPRC about it. The lady told me NBC plans to air reruns until March & that KPRC will replace it with syndicated Family Feud.
Caesar got yanked January 14. The LA earthquake hit on January 17 (Martin Luther King Day). NBC probably changed their minds about extending Ceasar reruns. [/quote]
That still proves el zilcho to the end that one event had a thing to do with the other.
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My semi-educated guess is based on the fact that NBC was replacing two half-hour shows with a one-hour show...
I assume there were some NBC affiliates who had been showing only one of either "Caesars Challenge" or "Classic Concentration." NBC may have originally planned to keep feeding "Caesars Challenge" reruns solely to those affiliates for a couple of months, as a service until they could get their act together and find another half-hour show to drop in there. But then someone said, "Wait a minute, why should we make it easier for our affiliates to pre-empt network programming?!"
Unless it turns out that the Northridge earthquake caused highly localized damage to the shelf holding the entire collection "Caesars Challenge" videotapes at NBC in Burbank, in which case, never mind.
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[quote name=\'trainman\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 11:47 PM\']
Unless it turns out that the Northridge earthquake caused highly localized damage to the shelf holding the entire collection "Caesars Challenge" videotapes at NBC in Burbank, in which case, never mind. [/quote]
Yes, and the gravitational pull caused a techtonic (sp?) shift which carried the tapes directly to the shelf at USA Network, who found them buried between some tapes of "Couch Potatoes" and "Hot Potato." USA aired the tapes for a short time after dusting them off a bit. After the game show block ended, the tapes were thrown one by one into the Pacific Ocean by edict of the sister of Debbie Allen of "Fame." (Preceding post purely parody. Not to be taken seriously.)
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 05:06 PM\'] When I heard about Caesar's pink slip locally, I called KPRC about it. The lady told me NBC plans to air reruns until March & that KPRC will replace it with syndicated Family Feud.
Caesar got yanked January 14. The LA earthquake hit on January 17 (Martin Luther King Day). NBC probably changed their minds about extending Ceasar reruns.
That still proves el zilcho to the end that one event had a thing to do with the other.[/quote]
In fact, it almost DISproves it. The earthquake on the 17th caused a show to be cancelled on the 14th, three days earlier?
The last Davidson episode was weird, as I think they acknowledged it being the last but still, John did the "see you next week" spiel.
The closest thing there is to a mention is his getting tongue-tied explaining, I think, why the contestant about to play the Winner's Circle didn't have to worry about coming back the next week. But that had to do with it being the end of a tournament, and his getting tongue-tied isn't unusual enough to go on.
I auditioned for the game in December 1991, and the contestant coordinators said there would be two more weeks of new shows taped before their hiatus, one of them being the tournament week. Given that they weren't taping during my trip, I don't think they would have let me fly in from Pittsburgh to audition if they thought the show would not be returning from hiatus.
That's odd. If it was December, the last episodes had already been taped. Either way, surely they wouldn't still be auditioning contestants if they knew! One other clue which to me suggests they didn't know it was the end (and now you'll think I'm crazy, but I had months of reruns during which to come up with hints that the show might just be taking a break) was the commercial for that last week. All that season, including the previous tournament, each week's commercial was almost precisely the same, (clue given, such as "Country singer with big breasts" followed by mismatched answer from the same round, "Johnny Cash", repeat a few times, mention celebs' names) but that last one was different. For instance, it included spooky effects and John Davidson singing "My sandwich has a first name...".
(hey, don't look at me like that. I hadn't seen commercials for game shows often, and since I had to tape this one off the satellite it had them included.)
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It was the last ever episode of 15 To 1 yesterday. The host (William G Stewart) mentioned that it was the final Grand Final and proceeded to give some statistics.
Like it ran for 16 years, had 33,975 contestants, and he had asked just under 350,000 questions.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 19 2003, 06:21 PM\'] Interestingly, since the Daytime Emmy eligibility period at the time was from March to February, Betty was nominated again in 1984 for her work on Just Men!, but lost (to Bob Barker IIRC) [/quote]
And the witch got angry saying...
WITCH: Curses! Curses!
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 05:53 AM\'] And the witch got angry saying...
WITCH: Curses! Curses! [/quote]
Wow.
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QUOTE (zachhoran @ Dec 19 2003, 06:21 PM)
Interestingly, since the Daytime Emmy eligibility period at the time was from March to February, Betty was nominated again in 1984 for her work on Just Men!, but lost (to Bob Barker IIRC)
And the witch got angry saying...
WITCH: Curses! Curses!
I'm REALLY confused here. What does all this mean?
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 05:12 PM\']
QUOTE (zachhoran @ Dec 19 2003, 06:21 PM)
Interestingly, since the Daytime Emmy eligibility period at the time was from March to February, Betty was nominated again in 1984 for her work on Just Men!, but lost (to Bob Barker IIRC)
And the witch got angry saying...
WITCH: Curses! Curses!
I'm REALLY confused here. What does all this mean? [/quote]
The Witch is his "mascot," and one of the Witch's favorite shows is Just Men.
Or something like that.
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[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 03:31 PM\'] The Witch is his "mascot," and one of the Witch's favorite shows is Just Men!
Or something like that. [/quote]
That's right! The "mascot" would like Just Men! & Treasure Hunt because they it was for female contestants only & BOTH shows rubbed it in when the grand prize was won.
However, the "Witch" hates it when there's an all-gentlemen panel or shows like Pro-Fan & Grandstand.
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And I assume the "Witch" would also like Super Password, because the two-week ToC had all women! In fact, Eight of them!
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 07:38 PM\'] [quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 03:31 PM\'] The Witch is his "mascot," and one of the Witch's favorite shows is Just Men!
Or something like that. [/quote]
That's right! The "mascot" would like Just Men! & Treasure Hunt because they it was for female contestants only & BOTH shows rubbed it in when the grand prize was won.
However, the "Witch" hates it when there's an all-gentlemen panel or shows like Pro-Fan & Grandstand. [/quote]
God only knows why I'm taking part in this, but...
How did the "witch" feel when H2 did their Blondes Have More Fun week, considering the 9 squares were all female, but the contestants were male?
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 05:38 PM\'] That's right! The "mascot" would like Just Men! & Treasure Hunt because they it was for female contestants only & BOTH shows rubbed it in when the grand prize was won.
However, the "Witch" hates it when there's an all-gentlemen panel or shows like Pro-Fan & Grandstand. [/quote]
I'm thinking there are some gender issues here that badly need to be resolved.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 07:51 PM\'] [quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 07:38 PM\'] [quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 03:31 PM\'] The Witch is his "mascot," and one of the Witch's favorite shows is Just Men!
Or something like that. [/quote]
That's right! The "mascot" would like Just Men! & Treasure Hunt because they it was for female contestants only & BOTH shows rubbed it in when the grand prize was won.
However, the "Witch" hates it when there's an all-gentlemen panel or shows like Pro-Fan & Grandstand. [/quote]
God only knows why I'm taking part in this, but...
How did the "witch" feel when H2 did their Blondes Have More Fun week, considering the 9 squares were all female, but the contestants were male? [/quote]
And was the witch mad because one certain blond former HS regular (and a former "witch" of sorts) was left out?
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 06:46 PM\'] And I assume the "Witch" would also like Super Password, because the two-week ToC had all women! In fact, Eight of them! [/quote]
That's because the show was fixed (Scandal 2)! Whenever the Super Password was @ $20,000 or better, male contestants were placed on hold until the jackpot was won! Then when it went back to $5,000, men were invited again.
This also happened on Word Play ($15,000) & NBC's Wheel of Fortune original Jackpot space in 1986-87 ($5,000). The Reg Grundy shows (Sale & Scrabble) are innocent.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 06:51 PM\'] How did the "witch" feel when H2 did their Blondes Have More Fun week, considering the 9 squares were all female, but the contestants were male? [/quote]
Just like Pro Fan & Grandstand, "Curses! Curses!"
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 09:05 AM\'] That's because the show was fixed (Scandal 2)! Whenever the Super Password was @ $20,000 or better, male contestants were placed on hold until the jackpot was won! Then when it went back to $5,000, men were invited again.
This also happened on Word Play ($15,000) & NBC's Wheel of Fortune original Jackpot space in 1986-87 ($5,000). The Reg Grundy shows (Sale & Scrabble) are innocent. [/quote]
Not that I'm turning into a moderator (Chris C. and Matt do a fine job without having to resort to interference from some peon like myself), but that's a pretty serious accusation and one that I think needs some proof.
In fact, I can pretty much debunk it. The infamous "Rip Taylor pulls off his toupee" episode of SP had a contestant going for a $40,000 or $45,000 jackpot. The contestant in question--male (and he didn't get it, at least on that episode).
Doug
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In fact, I can pretty much debunk it. The infamous "Rip Taylor pulls off his toupee" episode of SP had a contestant going for a $40,000 or $45,000 jackpot. The contestant in question--male (and he didn't get it, at least on that episode).
It was $40K, and as it turns out, the champ won it on the next show when it went up to $45K.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 10:07 AM\'] [quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 20 2003, 06:51 PM\'] How did the "witch" feel when H2 did their Blondes Have More Fun week, considering the 9 squares were all female, but the contestants were male? [/quote]
Just like Pro Fan & Grandstand, "Curses! Curses!" [/quote]
Well, you don't have to resort to "Pro-Fan"ity.
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These shows did make a goodbye statement:
1.) 50 Grand Slam - Tom Kennedy said some sort of goodbye speech and ended it with "and I'll see you next week on Name That Tune".
1a.) Kennedy also joked during the last week they wouldn't be needing the studio space after this.
2.) You're Number's Up - Nipsey announced, with Lee Menning at his side, this was the final show. Both were upbeat and kind in their words. Nipsey thanked NBC "for the use of the hall" and they waved goodbye.
3.) Art's Jeopardy (both versions) - Fleming gave what appeared to be a very sincere goodbye speech after the original version went off. He spoke slowly and. although trying to put up a good front, seemed genuinely remorse. I remember that, when the revival went off, his goodbye speech was remarkably similar to the original one in words, but deliverred in a much lighter tone and faster and more "matter of fact". Maybe he got better as he went along in doing this kind of this thing.
4.) Joe G.'s TTTT - I never saw the final taped syndicated episode, but it has been posted elsewhere Joe gave some strange rambling speech at the end alluding to not being sure and we may not see you again...
5.) CBS The Joker's Wild 7X- I dont' remember his exact speech, but Jack stood behind his podium, nobody else on stage, and gave a short talk and I remember him saying something about the show being a personally important moment to him.
6.) Blockbusters - Bill gave a short speech. He read some statistics that about an equal number of family pairs and solo players won. He also said he had one of the best times in his career hosting that show. Also, I don't remember if it was this show, but on one of Cullen's shows, he hears the above-average sustained applause at the start of the show and asks into the camera if they know something he doesn't.
7.) Hot Potato - Bill makes a short statement at the end of the show this is it. As some of the celebrities ham it up humming in the background (tacky they can joke when the crew is facing unemployment) he tastefully says goodbye. During the show, Bill jokes with Jan Murray he will be there next week standing in the same spot reading his little questions whether anybody else is there or not. Jan Murray jokes he will round up a few challengers and join him.
8.) Daly's WML - the entire show centers around this is it. They reminisce and the panel gives tearful final words at the end as they say goodnight. Daly is the mystery guest and scores a few "no" answers. A wonderful show, contrasted with Bud's nighttime TTTT going away where he matter-of-factedly says this is the end and nobody seems to care. Orson even jokes, "Goodbye forever and we'll see you tomorrow at 3." TTTT does a bit better with the final daytime where Bud says a few nice words. He should, considering it gave him a job for over 10 years.
9.) Las Vegas Gambit - As the last seconds of the game roll on, an edit of Wink is inserted into the top of the screen saying this is the last show and David Letterman will be premiering Monday. He adds, "I think you will like it," and the little box with his picture goes away.
10.) The Better Sex- Bill and Sarah say some sort of speech and as the credits roll, Sarah is shown on stage mingling with the contestants crying away.
11.) Bruce Forsythe's Hot Streak - I think Bruce said something marking the end.
12.) All Star Secrets - Eubanks said something (dont' remember what)
13.) Dream House - Bob gave a nice going away message.
14.) Kennedy's Break the Bank - in the middle of a game a buzzer sounds and Kennedy announces this is the final show and to wrap things up before they go off the contestants will just pick boxes until someone wins (a la Barry's BTB speedup game).
15.) Kennedy's Split Second - Monty Hall visits the show and thanks him for bringing a lot of class to the show.
16.) The New Battlestars - Alex begins the show by saying, "Welcome to the New Battlestars, soon to be the old Battlestars."
THOSE WITH NO GOODBYE SPEECHES
- Money Maze and Magnificane Marble Machine (reruns aired at the very end and no mention during the final original episode)
- Blyden What's My Line
- Cullen's The Joker's Wild
- Second Chance
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That's because the show was fixed (Scandal 2)! Whenever the Super Password was @ $20,000 or better, male contestants were placed on hold until the jackpot was won! Then when it went back to $5,000, men were invited again.
This also happened on Word Play ($15,000) & NBC's Wheel of Fortune original Jackpot space in 1986-87 ($5,000). The Reg Grundy shows (Sale & Scrabble) are innocent.
Problems. Big ones. Have you been hanging out with Lisa Pease?
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9.) Las Vegas Gambit - As the last seconds of the game roll on, an edit of Wink is inserted into the top of the screen saying this is the last show and David Letterman will be premiering Monday.
Las Vegas Gambit replaced the first half of Letterman's daytime show. LVG was replaced by Regis Philbin's talk show which co-starred Mary Hart.
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Hi, I am new here, so I don't know all the tricks of replying just yet, but in reply to this:
Also, the original Sale of the Century didn't mention it on the show itself; the winning couple said that they were coming back on the next show, but over the closing credits, the announcer said that since this was the last episode, the producers decided to give them their prize (I think it was a trip to Acapulco) anyway.
The reason for this would have been that there was likely an extra show taped. SOTC was cancelled near the end of the era of the Watergate/Nixon Impeachment Hearings. When shows were pre-empted, the next show in sequence would be broadcast the next time the show was scheduled to be aired.
This was especially noticeable with shows featuring celebrities. A week might run five, six or seven days depending on which network(s) carried the Watergate festivities on which day(s).
Now here is one for the children of the 60's: Which game shows were cancelled on Christmas Day?
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[quote name=\'Jim\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 02:23 PM\']
THOSE WITH NO GOODBYE SPEECHES
- Money Maze and Magnificane Marble Machine (reruns aired at the very end and no mention during the final original episode)
- Blyden What's My Line
- Cullen's The Joker's Wild
- Second Chance [/quote]
"Second Chance" did have farewell speech. Jim said "and this is our last game of 'Second Chance'....I'd like to thank......' etc, etc. I have it on audio tape somewhere and can transcribe the speech if anyone wants me to.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 04:49 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jim\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 02:23 PM\']
THOSE WITH NO GOODBYE SPEECHES
- Money Maze and Magnificane Marble Machine (reruns aired at the very end and no mention during the final original episode)
- Blyden What's My Line
- Cullen's The Joker's Wild
- Second Chance [/quote]
"Second Chance" did have farewell speech. Jim said "and this is our last game of 'Second Chance'....I'd like to thank......' etc, etc. I have it on audio tape somewhere and can transcribe the speech if anyone wants me to. [/quote]
I'm interested.
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[quote name=\'Jim\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 02:23 PM\'] These shows did make a goodbye statement:
1.) 50 Grand Slam - Tom Kennedy said some sort of goodbye speech and ended it with "and I'll see you next week on Name That Tune".
1a.) Kennedy also joked during the last week they wouldn't be needing the studio space after this.
2.) You're Number's Up - Nipsey announced, with Lee Menning at his side, this was the final show. Both were upbeat and kind in their words. Nipsey thanked NBC "for the use of the hall" and they waved goodbye.
3.) Art's Jeopardy (both versions) - Fleming gave what appeared to be a very sincere goodbye speech after the original version went off. He spoke slowly and. although trying to put up a good front, seemed genuinely remorse. I remember that, when the revival went off, his goodbye speech was remarkably similar to the original one in words, but deliverred in a much lighter tone and faster and more "matter of fact". Maybe he got better as he went along in doing this kind of this thing.
4.) Joe G.'s TTTT - I never saw the final taped syndicated episode, but it has been posted elsewhere Joe gave some strange rambling speech at the end alluding to not being sure and we may not see you again...
5.) CBS The Joker's Wild 7X- I dont' remember his exact speech, but Jack stood behind his podium, nobody else on stage, and gave a short talk and I remember him saying something about the show being a personally important moment to him.
6.) Blockbusters - Bill gave a short speech. He read some statistics that about an equal number of family pairs and solo players won. He also said he had one of the best times in his career hosting that show. Also, I don't remember if it was this show, but on one of Cullen's shows, he hears the above-average sustained applause at the start of the show and asks into the camera if they know something he doesn't.
7.) Hot Potato - Bill makes a short statement at the end of the show this is it. As some of the celebrities ham it up humming in the background (tacky they can joke when the crew is facing unemployment) he tastefully says goodbye. During the show, Bill jokes with Jan Murray he will be there next week standing in the same spot reading his little questions whether anybody else is there or not. Jan Murray jokes he will round up a few challengers and join him.
8.) Daly's WML - the entire show centers around this is it. They reminisce and the panel gives tearful final words at the end as they say goodnight. Daly is the mystery guest and scores a few "no" answers. A wonderful show, contrasted with Bud's nighttime TTTT going away where he matter-of-factedly says this is the end and nobody seems to care. Orson even jokes, "Goodbye forever and we'll see you tomorrow at 3." TTTT does a bit better with the final daytime where Bud says a few nice words. He should, considering it gave him a job for over 10 years.
9.) Las Vegas Gambit - As the last seconds of the game roll on, an edit of Wink is inserted into the top of the screen saying this is the last show and David Letterman will be premiering Monday. He adds, "I think you will like it," and the little box with his picture goes away.
10.) The Better Sex- Bill and Sarah say some sort of speech and as the credits roll, Sarah is shown on stage mingling with the contestants crying away.
11.) Bruce Forsythe's Hot Streak - I think Bruce said something marking the end.
12.) All Star Secrets - Eubanks said something (dont' remember what)
13.) Dream House - Bob gave a nice going away message.
14.) Kennedy's Break the Bank - in the middle of a game a buzzer sounds and Kennedy announces this is the final show and to wrap things up before they go off the contestants will just pick boxes until someone wins (a la Barry's BTB speedup game).
15.) Kennedy's Split Second - Monty Hall visits the show and thanks him for bringing a lot of class to the show.
16.) The New Battlestars - Alex begins the show by saying, "Welcome to the New Battlestars, soon to be the old Battlestars."
THOSE WITH NO GOODBYE SPEECHES
- Money Maze and Magnificane Marble Machine (reruns aired at the very end and no mention during the final original episode)
- Blyden What's My Line
- Cullen's The Joker's Wild
- Second Chance [/quote]
I know this really wouldn't count as a final episode per se, but it was the end of an era. Last year on Hollywood Squares, Tom Bergeron gave Whoopi a nice little farewell speech and thanked her for her 4 years as center square. I was kinda hoping for something a bit longer, but the acknowledgement was nice enough.
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3.) Art's Jeopardy (both versions) - Fleming gave what appeared to be a very sincere goodbye speech after the original version went off. He spoke slowly and. although trying to put up a good front, seemed genuinely remorse. I remember that, when the revival went off, his goodbye speech was remarkably similar to the original one in words, but deliverred in a much lighter tone and faster and more "matter of fact".
I feel you kinda short changed the original finale. It was more or less another "whole show revolves around the show ending" sort of deal. They did play the game, and showed clips too. Mel Brooks came to visit, and they had a neato category "Jeopardy 1965" where the answers were short and to the point like in '65. It was mostly avoided, though. Don Pardo made an on-camera appearance and they faded to black with nice music over the credits.
The second speech came across that way I'd assume because the revival didn't last that long. He came on in the final segment and spent the credits waving goodbye.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 07:59 AM\'] [quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 12:09 AM\']
Speaking of the last CC episode. It's very obvious watcing it tha Alex is very bitter the show is closing, a LOT of sarcastic comments are made, at the end of the episode Alex says in a rather somber voice: "We've enjoyed having you with us... so long everyone."
It didn't help he had to endure two of the most ANNOYING contestants in the History of Modern Game Shows in the first half.
-Joe R. [/quote]
Apparently Alex tried to convince NBC to do new episodes of Concentration shortly after the reruns began. The reruns(which were only year-old reruns when the show first started airing, then by early 1993 they jumped back to 1987-88 shows) were getting just as decent ratings as the first run shows were. [/quote]
Why did NBC bring this back a month after cancellation? What show did it replace?
I wish they would have made new epsiodes, that was a great show.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 11:51 AM\'] [quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 09:05 AM\'] That's because the show was fixed (Scandal 2)! Whenever the Super Password was @ $20,000 or better, male contestants were placed on hold until the jackpot was won! Then when it went back to $5,000, men were invited again.
This also happened on Word Play ($15,000) & NBC's Wheel of Fortune original Jackpot space in 1986-87 ($5,000). The Reg Grundy shows (Sale & Scrabble) are innocent. [/quote]
Not that I'm turning into a moderator (Chris C. and Matt do a fine job without having to resort to interference from some peon like myself), but that's a pretty serious accusation and one that I think needs some proof.
In fact, I can pretty much debunk it. The infamous "Rip Taylor pulls off his toupee" episode of SP had a contestant going for a $40,000 or $45,000 jackpot. The contestant in question--male (and he didn't get it, at least on that episode).
Doug [/quote]
My apologies for having a memory like an elephant, but when it comes to unusual game show stats & trivia, I have a certain knack for it.
May I ask what year that Rip Taylor episode of Super Password happened? Because the T of Cs happened around February 1985. I can also debunk the accusation in 1988 when the con artist Patrick Quinn/Kari Ketchum was on the show when he won $55,000, then lost it.
But I distinctly remember Word Play though.
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 03:57 PM\'] My apologies for having a memory like an elephant, but when it comes to unusual game show stats & trivia, I have a certain knack for it.
May I ask what year that Rip Taylor episode of Super Password happened? Because the T of Cs happened around February 1985. I can also debunk the accusation in 1988 when the con artist Patrick Quinn/Kari Ketchum was on the show when he won $55,000, then lost it.
But I distinctly remember Word Play though. [/quote]
Yeah, and people who over the years have proven a similar ability to recall such minutae are telling you that you're dead wrong. Add in your obvious gender issues and I think I'm inclined to take Doug's and Chuck's word over yours unless you can provide some better proof than your own say-so.
The date of the TOC is irrelevant. You are accusing a game show of rigging its contestant process, and around here the word "rigged" is pretty politically charged, and is not tossed about lightly. We'd like some hard proof.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 05:06 PM\'] Yeah, and people who over the years have proven a similar ability to recall such minutae are telling you that you're dead wrong. Add in your obvious gender issues and I think I'm inclined to take Doug's and Chuck's word over yours unless you can provide some better proof than your own say-so.
The date of the TOC is irrelevant. You are accusing a game show of rigging its contestant process, and around here the word "rigged" is pretty politically charged, and is not tossed about lightly. We'd like some hard proof. [/quote]
Please accept my heartfelt apologies to everybody on the forum. I will drop this issue & consider it closed.
In fact, I'll volunteer to stop posting for awhile, you have my Scout's honor on that. Don't want to risk getting into any more trouble.
Thanks for a wonderful 3 months. Merry Christmas.
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 06:39 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 05:06 PM\'] Yeah, and people who over the years have proven a similar ability to recall such minutae are telling you that you're dead wrong. Add in your obvious gender issues and I think I'm inclined to take Doug's and Chuck's word over yours unless you can provide some better proof than your own say-so.
The date of the TOC is irrelevant. You are accusing a game show of rigging its contestant process, and around here the word "rigged" is pretty politically charged, and is not tossed about lightly. We'd like some hard proof. [/quote]
Please accept my heartfelt apologies to everybody on the forum. I will drop this issue & consider it closed.
In fact, I'll volunteer to stop posting for awhile, you have my Scout's honor on that. Don't want to risk getting into any more trouble.
Thanks for a wonderful 3 months. Merry Christmas. [/quote]
No, you don't have to do all that. You made a mistake with a post, we all do. No need to go into hiding, just be more careful with your facts.
ObGameShow: 21...now that show was rigged...in the 50s. :-P
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[quote name=\'bellbm\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 04:11 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 07:59 AM\'] [quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 12:09 AM\']
Speaking of the last CC episode. It's very obvious watcing it tha Alex is very bitter the show is closing, a LOT of sarcastic comments are made, at the end of the episode Alex says in a rather somber voice: "We've enjoyed having you with us... so long everyone."
It didn't help he had to endure two of the most ANNOYING contestants in the History of Modern Game Shows in the first half.
-Joe R. [/quote]
Apparently Alex tried to convince NBC to do new episodes of Concentration shortly after the reruns began. The reruns(which were only year-old reruns when the show first started airing, then by early 1993 they jumped back to 1987-88 shows) were getting just as decent ratings as the first run shows were. [/quote]
Why did NBC bring this back a month after cancellation? What show did it replace?
I wish they would have made new epsiodes, that was a great show. [/quote]
Supposedly CONCENTRATION was brought back (to paraphrase from a USA TODAY article announcing its return) because of the glut of talk shows that were on the airwaves at that point. It wound up replacing COVER TO COVER on the schedule (C2C was the Gayle "I was Oprah's best friend until Dr. Phil came along" King-hosted magazine/talk show).
Note that C2C's premiere was while WoF and CONCENTRATION were still in first-run, so while it technically wasn't intended as a replcement for the games, it essentially wound up being one (and wound up being replaced by one).
Doug
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 06:06 PM\'] Add in your obvious gender issues and I think I'm inclined to take Doug's and Chuck's word over yours unless you can provide some better proof than your own say-so. [/quote]
That's a low blow (no pun intended). Now eventhough I was tiring of the "cackling" alterego myself, that should have nothing to do with his/her credibility. I agree throwing the term "rigged" around loosely is irresponsible, but let's play a little nicer.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'Jim\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 02:23 PM\'] GOODBYE SPEECHES
- Cullen's The Joker's Wild
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Cullen did say something to the effect that he had enjoyed working on the show the last two shows and that reruns would air during the summer months. I'm pretty sure Enright and Co. knew the fate of TJW and TTD before the last shows were taped(I read in January 1986 that they were done after that season) Whether he knew at the time that it would be the last time he ever hosted a game show is up for debate.
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 05:14 PM\'] That's a low blow (no pun intended). Now eventhough I was tiring of the "cackling" alterego myself, that should have nothing to do with his/her credibility. I agree throwing the term "rigged" around loosely is irresponsible, but let's play a little nicer. [/quote]
I suggest that it's EXTREMELY relevant to the issue.
My mentioning that had nothing to do with the "mascot" stuff at all, actually, he's made several other posts indicating an interest in quantities of women vs. men as contestants and panelists on game shows that could most generously be described as "unusual" prior to this discussion, and I think he may be letting it skew his memory.
Now, if he wants to play martyr instead of sucking it up and learning something from the experience. that's disappointing, but that's also his choice.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 05:48 PM\'] No, you don't have to do all that. You made a mistake with a post, we all do. No need to go into hiding, just be more careful with your facts.
ObGameShow: 21...now that show was rigged...in the 50s. :-P [/quote]
You're right, I won't go into hiding my head like an ostrich! Thanks for the kind words fostergray! I'm confessing that it was wrong to post something out of my own memory & had misjudged all this time.
And people, don't mind the mascot. It's just a character I drew & created.
I call this a truce.
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 06:19 PM\'] I'm confessing that it was wrong to post something out of my own memory & had misjudged all this time.
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Very big of you. Here's to a long and enjoyable stay. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 05:06 PM\'][quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 03:57 PM\'] My apologies for having a memory like an elephant, but when it comes to unusual game show stats & trivia, I have a certain knack for it.
May I ask what year that Rip Taylor episode of Super Password happened? Because the T of Cs happened around February 1985. I can also debunk the accusation in 1988 when the con artist Patrick Quinn/Kari Ketchum was on the show when he won $55,000, then lost it.
But I distinctly remember Word Play though. [/quote]
Yeah, and people who over the years have proven a similar ability to recall such minutae are telling you that you're dead wrong. Add in your obvious gender issues and I think I'm inclined to take Doug's and Chuck's word over yours unless you can provide some better proof than your own say-so.
The date of the TOC is irrelevant. You are accusing a game show of rigging its contestant process, and around here the word "rigged" is pretty politically charged, and is not tossed about lightly. We'd like some hard proof.[/quote]
Thanks, Chris L.
For the record, the Rip Taylor toupee incident was in 1988 (pretty sure it was January, with that week of episodes taped in late 1987).
As for you, GSWitch, G-d knows I've made my fair share of mistakes in posts, but something like that I wouldn't post unless I was absolutely sure and could provide some degree of proof. Even that doesn't necessarily guarantee its validity--as I found out the hard way in a post about Mark Goodson Productions in which I had no inside knowledge but used material from a couple of websites that I thought were reputable to try to provide some insight. And while the sites themselves may have been reputable, there was information on them that probably wasn't (and I got called on it). Since then, I've tried to be lot more careful about what I say. Still doesn't mean I'm going to be 100% accurate, but I'm striving.
Point being--even if you think you know, you may very well not know. Word to the wise should be sufficient enough. And happy holidays. :)
Doug
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 02:41 PM\']
9.) Las Vegas Gambit - As the last seconds of the game roll on, an edit of Wink is inserted into the top of the screen saying this is the last show and David Letterman will be premiering Monday.
Las Vegas Gambit replaced the first half of Letterman's daytime show. LVG was replaced by Regis Philbin's talk show which co-starred Mary Hart. [/quote]
I guess Wink was being presumptuous when he said we'd enjoy it.
Side note: The first time The Magnificent Marble Machine left the air (for Take My Advice; it came back two weeks later when Wheel of Fortune shrunk to an hour -- trust me on this one (http://\"http://www.curtalliaume.com/nbc_day.html\")), per Randy Amasia in ATGS (http://\"http://www.google.com/groups?q=magnificent+marble+machine+see+you+group:alt.tv.game-shows+author:amasia&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=21&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2001&selm=7vu1e2%242b1d%40enews3.newsguy.com&rnum=2\"), three different endings were taped -- "see you next week," "see you eventually," and "goodbye forever."
When the show finally left the air in June 1976, it had been playing in reruns for nearly three months -- it was supposed to exit April 1 or so, but its successor The Fun Factory had been delayed due to a strike of some sort.
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10.) The Better Sex- Bill and Sarah say some sort of speech and as the credits roll, Sarah is shown on stage mingling with the contestants crying away.
I believe Bill and Sarah said they were being "put on hold" and would return at some point. (Hmmm...I keep checking TVGuide every week and STILL don't see it listed!!...LOL)
When the show finally left the air in June 1976, it had been playing in reruns for nearly three months -- it was supposed to exit April 1 or so, but its successor The Fun Factory had been delayed due to a strike of some sort.
"Magnificent Marble Machine" was actually listed with "Last show of the series" THREE different times in TVGuide. The first was in early January 1976. The second was just before April 1st, when "Fun Factory" was supposed to replace it. It was the NABET strike that delayed its premiere. The third was in June 1976 just before "Fun Factory" finally got on the air.
Re. "Take My Advice" - that was hosted by Kelly Lange, and during its short run featured many game show personalities as panelists - including Carol Wayne, Peter Marshall, Chuck Woolery and Allen Ludden. It started out featuring celebrity couples, then went to regular celebrities (not that couples are irregular, but you get my point...)
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"Take My Advice," another Burt Sugarman production that probably will never again see the light of day. Burt's probably got the tapes in his basement next to the "Whew!"'s. Not that anyone ever wants to see TMA again. It did have Bill Armstrong as announcer and the audience voting thingies from "Celeb. Sweepstakes."
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Dec 22 2003, 09:42 AM\']
10.) The Better Sex- Bill and Sarah say some sort of speech and as the credits roll, Sarah is shown on stage mingling with the contestants crying away.
I believe Bill and Sarah said they were being "put on hold" and would return at some point. (Hmmm...I keep checking TVGuide every week and STILL don't see it listed!!...LOL)[/quote]
As I recall, Whisperin' Bill had his guitar with him and did a little song at the end (they actually had the lights down in the studio and the contestants sitting on the steps in front of their podia for the last segment). However, ABC decided that instead of music, they'd rather run a long promo covering the daytime lineup changes starting the following Monday (with "Pyramid" going into "TBS"' time slot, IIRC), so the goodbyes got cut down, leaving the viewer wondering why Bill had his guitar with him for the farewell.
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[quote name=\'Jim\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 02:23 PM\']4.) Joe G.'s TTTT - I never saw the final taped syndicated episode, but it has been posted elsewhere Joe gave some strange rambling speech at the end alluding to not being sure and we may not see you again...
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Garagiola's final TTTT signoff was really more cryptic than rambling:
"Hey, for some reason, I only have five seconds to say goodbye and I'm kind of glad because it's kind of a . . . different goodbye. And it's known only to us. See you again."
Kitty Carlisle did say something to her co-panelists about the final vote following the last reveal, but it was difficult to hear over the audience applause . . .
Marshall
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[quote name=\'Jim\' date=\'Dec 21 2003, 02:23 PM\'] 12.) All Star Secrets - Eubanks said something (dont' remember what)
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Was there an actual statement? I remember that, instead of Bob Eubanks surprising one of the celebrites, one of the celebs (Jo Ann Worley, I think) surprised Bob by bringing out some sort of old-style western singing group (I think Bob sang with them at one time); they got together and sang something over the closing credits, and the last credit was "Happy Trails".
(Also, on the last Dream House, I recall Debbie Bartlett reading one of the prize plugs at the end. How long was it between that and when she became one of the Love Boat Mermaids?)
-- Don
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(Also, on the last Dream House, I recall Debbie Bartlett reading one of the prize plugs at the end. How long was it between that and when she became one of the Love Boat Mermaids?)
-- Don
Always happy to answer a question for a fellow Don. Dream House went off the air in June 1984 and her debut as a Mermaid was in the fall of 1985 when the Jack Jones theme was dumped in favor of a Dionne Warwick-sung Love Boat opening theme. Between those gigs, she was the model on the Bill Rafferty-hosted and very entertaining Every Second Counts ('84-'85 season in syndication).
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 23 2003, 01:10 AM\']
(Also, on the last Dream House, I recall Debbie Bartlett reading one of the prize plugs at the end. How long was it between that and when she became one of the Love Boat Mermaids?)
-- Don
Always happy to answer a question for a fellow Don. Dream House went off the air in June 1984 and her debut as a Mermaid was in the fall of 1985 when the Jack Jones theme was dumped in favor of a Dionne Warwick-sung Love Boat opening theme. Between those gigs, she was the model on the Bill Rafferty-hosted and very entertaining Every Second Counts ('84-'85 season in syndication). [/quote]
One of her fellow Mermaids was future Lois & Clark babe Teri Hatcher. Gee, we probably could have determined that they were real and spectacular right then and there.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Dec 23 2003, 10:08 AM\']
One of her fellow Mermaids was future Lois & Clark babe Teri Hatcher. Gee, we probably could have determined that they were real and spectacular right then and there. [/quote]
According to a humorous Usenet post circa 2001, Curt A. himself took ZHIFUITH to mean Zach Horan is Found Under the Influence of Teri Hatcher, and Heidi Cayn Friedman is cuter than Teri Hatcher(or was in the early 80s, anyway). The rest of that thread goes against the guidelines of this board so I won't go into it.
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Dec 22 2003, 07:11 PM\'](Also, on the last Dream House, I recall Debbie Bartlett reading one of the prize plugs at the end. How long was it between that and when she became one of the Love Boat Mermaids?)[/quote]
... and on another tangent, on the last episode of the *original* ABC version of Dream House, the last segment was taped in the empty studio with the set struck. Mike Darrow, in his street clothes with leather jacket and mic in hand, leaned against a tall stepladder and sang:
"The party's over... / It's time to call it a day / They've burst your pretty balloon / And taken the moon away..."
Then he said: "The party's over for Dream House..." and proceeded to reel off the statistics for the overall series (total prizes won, number of houses won, etc.) Then he bid the home audience farewell, and walked off stage right and out of the studio while the credits rolled.
Esoteric Eric. who remembers that at least a couple of other ABC shows of the era (definitely the David Steinberg - hosted "The Music Scene"; not a game show, I know...) had a similar deconstruction - themed ending
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... and on another tangent, on the last episode of the original ABC version of Dream House, the last segment was taped in the empty studio with the set struck. Mike Darrow, in his street clothes with leather jacket and mic in hand, leaned against a tall stepladder and sang:
"The party's over... / It's time to call it a day / They've burst your pretty balloon / And taken the moon away..."
Then he said: "The party's over for Dream House..."
(sigh) What I wouldn't give for a tape of that final DH show from 1970.....
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Rita Hayes of the Big Board!' (who already has the 1984 DH finale in her collection!)
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Garagiola's final TTTT signoff was really more cryptic than rambling:
"Hey, for some reason, I only have five seconds to say goodbye and I'm kind of glad because it's kind of a . . . different goodbye. And it's known only to us. See you again."
No doubt it had to w/the then-standard process of "bicycling" syndie shows...would've been odd to have an "official" goodbye on an ep that may have aired earlier that season in some parts of the country.
A similar gambit took place on the last syndie DG in 1980...during the opening teaser w/celeb contestant Jaye P. Morgan, Chuck Barris could be seen sweeping in the background, and then after the kiss goodbye at the end, Chuckie Baby could be seen walking across the set, jacket slung over his shoulder as if to say "That's it, and I'm outta here."
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Last Joker's Wild with Bill Cullen--after the announcement that the ensuing weeks would be offering "choice shows" {which is nonsense as said "choice shows" were always the first 13 weeks of the season just completed} his final words were, "Hope to see you again and soon".
Last Celebrity Bullseye--Jim Lange altered his usual close to say, "Hope everything in your whole life hits the bullseye". After Charlie O. finished the rattle, the music didn't forward to the spot where it usually went to at that point. Some of the behind the scenes personnel were shown as the credits rolled.
Last new 1993 Scrabble before starting a few weeks of reruns before cancellation--the Chucker's last words were simply, "Bye, you guys".
Last All-Star Blitz--one of the last puzzles was ALL STAR BLITZ. Peter Marshall's last words were simply, "I'll see you soon again" with no mention of the cancellation.
Last Now You See It with Chuck Henry--I forget the speech Chuck made but he did so with a number of staff members on stage. Announcer Don Morrow appeared on stage on camera after telling the viewing audience that the preceding was A Mark Goodson Television Production.
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Last Now You See It with Chuck Henry--I forget the speech Chuck made but he did so with a number of staff members on stage.
He said some sort of thing about all the people it took to put on the show. In fact, the entire show was hilarious including the inept player in round one who kept buzzing in a'la Sang. In the end, Gary Dawson paid the final winner in play money. Chuck threw some of the cue card people's cards off the stage.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 26 2003, 03:08 AM\']
Last Celebrity Bullseye--Jim Lange altered his usual close to say, "Hope everything in your whole life hits the bullseye". After Charlie O. finished the rattle, the music didn't forward to the spot where it usually went to at that point. Some of the behind the scenes personnel were shown as the credits rolled.
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I assume you mean when it would just go to the end of the theme when the announcer made the B&E announcement (and when the "animated" Bullseye logo was struck by lightning). In that case, I think they stopped doing that a ways into the run, as I recall having a few regular Bullseye episodes with end credits lacking the jump to theme's end.
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I assume you mean when it would just go to the end of the theme when the announcer made the B&E announcement (and when the "animated" Bullseye logo was struck by lightning).
No, no. After the rattle, the fee plugs, the "some of our departing contestants will receive" spiel--whatever that's called. Check out the Cool Brit Guy's page o'clips and click on the Bullseye link and after Jay Stewart is done with those descriptions, you'll hear a music edit and know what I mean.
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Announcer Don Morrow appeared on stage on camera after telling the viewing audience that the preceding was A Mark Goodson Television Production.
He also amended his usal closing tag to "This is DM saying goodbye for NYSI, a MG Television Production".
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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No, no. After the rattle, the fee plugs, the "some of our departing contestants will receive" spiel--whatever that's called.
To further clarify, as per Jake Tanner (where are ya, buddy?), there are 3 parts to the closing theme:
Part I - the part that opens w/the cymbal and plays over the fee plugs, leading into a bass section that was used for the contestant plugs...normally, after the fee plugs, it would segue into...
Part II - the familiar orchestral part that plays over the end credits, including the lush string section used for the mid-show fee plugs...it then leads into:
Part III - the closing button that, in early eps, would play over the "Bullseye" logo animation w/the lightning after the credits
The part in question is the segue between Parts I and II.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Part II - the familiar orchestral part that plays over the end credits, including the lush string section used for the mid-show fee plugs...
The "Bullseye" theme is in the trade curcuit and clearly has all three parts, but they segway into each other, rather than each having it's own definate start. Also, the lush string section used for mid-show fee plugs is (unfortunatly) not in the trade curcuit copy. Too bad...
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Did Chuck Henry feel happy on the last episode of NYSI, especially when it came to the fact that the show was ending?
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[quote name=\'gsnstooge\' date=\'Feb 2 2004, 01:09 PM\'] Did Chuck Henry feel happy on the last episode of NYSI, especially when it came to the fact that the show was ending? [/quote]
I don't know. I've never felt Chuck Henry.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 2 2004, 04:01 PM\'] [quote name=\'gsnstooge\' date=\'Feb 2 2004, 01:09 PM\'] Did Chuck Henry feel happy on the last episode of NYSI, especially when it came to the fact that the show was ending? [/quote]
I don't know. I've never felt Chuck Henry. [/quote]
Officially nominated for "Funniest Post of 2004".........:-)
Tyshaun
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Officially nominated for "Funniest Post of 2004".........:-)
I second that...although Don H's post about Tammy "sealing a corroded corpse w/a kiss" in the thread about Warren Hull's B-Day comes pretty damn close. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 2 2004, 04:01 PM\'] [quote name=\'gsnstooge\' date=\'Feb 2 2004, 01:09 PM\'] Did Chuck Henry feel happy on the last episode of NYSI, especially when it came to the fact that the show was ending? [/quote]
I don't know. I've never felt Chuck Henry. [/quote]
Yea, that was pretty damn clever. ObbbGameShows (or whatever the stupid tag line is), it sounds like a comment Richard Dawson would make.
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I don't think anyone mentioned this, but the Sale of the Century finale in 1989 was pretty cool. I especially liked that fade out to the control room.
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Feb 3 2004, 07:54 AM\'] I don't think anyone mentioned this, but the Sale of the Century finale in 1989 was pretty cool. I especially liked that fade out to the control room. [/quote]
In the Eastern time zone the last "$ale" didn't fade to the control room, instead just before the show was to wrap-up there was a quick cut to the White House.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Feb 3 2004, 08:11 AM\'] [quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Feb 3 2004, 07:54 AM\'] I don't think anyone mentioned this, but the Sale of the Century finale in 1989 was pretty cool. I especially liked that fade out to the control room. [/quote]
In the Eastern time zone the last "$ale" didn't fade to the control room, instead just before the show was to wrap-up there was a quick cut to the White House. [/quote]
For something that CNN didn't even cover. Damn NBC. Damn George Bush I. Damn Cassandra Clayton. Damn. Damn. Amsterdam. And damn USA for being three episodes away from showing it four years later and then beginning the syndicated run instead. Damn them all to hell. Aych-Eeee-Double Toothpicks.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Feb 3 2004, 08:38 AM\'] For something that CNN didn't even cover. Damn NBC. Damn George Bush I. Damn Cassandra Clayton. Damn. Damn. Amsterdam. And damn USA for being three episodes away from showing it four years later and then beginning the syndicated run instead. Damn them all to hell. Aych-Eeee-Double Toothpicks. [/quote]
Damn, Of course ! Damn Instant Bargains are WAY more important than the Damn Exxon Valdez Spill ! Damn !
-Damn Joe R.
(PS: Damn, isn't the damn final ep. in the damn circuit a damn studio master ?)