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Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: xavier45 on October 05, 2012, 11:34:46 AM
Starting on Monday October 15, these changes will occur:

9:00am: Card Sharks (Replaces Password Plus)
9:30am: Press Your Luck (Replaces Karn Feud)
12:00pm: The $100,000 Pyramid (Replaces Whammy!)
12:30pm: The $25,000 Pyramid (Replaces Lingo)

So Press Your Luck returns after a 3 year absence. And other than Jeopardy!, this will be the first time in quite a while that the whole morning schedule is pre-1990.

Source: http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?sgt=list&fromTimeInMillis=1350273600000&stnNum=14909
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: SRIV94 on October 05, 2012, 12:04:05 PM
Starting on Monday October 15, these changes will occur:

9:00am: Card Sharks (Replaces Password Plus)
9:30am: Press Your Luck (Replaces Karn Feud)
12:00pm: The $100,000 Pyramid (Replaces Whammy!)
12:30pm: The $25,000 Pyramid (Replaces Lingo)

So Press Your Luck returns after a 3 year absence. And other than Jeopardy!, this will be the first time in quite a while that the whole morning schedule is pre-1990.

Source: http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?sgt=list&fromTimeInMillis=1350273600000&stnNum=14909

Interesting.  Sorry to see P+ go.  I guess it'd be too much to ask for CS to be later episodes of Perry.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: snowpeck on October 05, 2012, 12:06:35 PM
The three questions then (which will have to wait for new PDFs to be released) are which version of CS, which part of the run of PYL, and will the noon Pyramid episodes be repeats of the 10AM ones?
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: jjman920 on October 05, 2012, 12:11:26 PM
When did they change from having P+ on in the late night hour? 11pm-4am is one hour of Feud, one hour of Baggage, two hours of Feud, one hour of Baggage. Really?

Glad to see PYL back. I wonder where they're going to start? It would make the absence worthwhile if they pick up some new episodes.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: BillCullen1 on October 05, 2012, 01:06:56 PM
Wondering which version of CS we'll see. I also hope they at least keep PP on weekends.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: MikeK on October 05, 2012, 03:08:09 PM
When did they change from having P+ on in the late night hour?
On a Friday night three or four weeks ago.  My DVR picked up The $25K Pyramid and Super Password on the Thursday of that week, but not the following night.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: catnap1972 on October 05, 2012, 04:21:19 PM
Wonder if it would be too much to wish for PYL to start from the beginning ("but but but it's so unpolished and stuff"---OH SHUT UP)
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: That Don Guy on October 05, 2012, 10:55:29 PM
Also, it looks like The Pyramid replaces Whammy! at 3 PM on weekdays.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: WarioBarker on October 06, 2012, 12:06:26 AM
Wonder if it would be too much to wish for PYL to start from the beginning ("but but but it's so unpolished and stuff"---OH SHUT UP)
No, I agree with you. And honestly, I don't think it's too much to ask for GSN's new PYL lease to consist of the episodes they haven't aired yet (September 1983-February 1984, November 1985-September 1986). It'd finally answer some of the lingering questions about the show, it wouldn't be the same package GSN ran into the ground over the course of eight years (oversaturation and all that), and they'd be sparkling compared to even the highest-quality 1980s-90s recordings that circulate...especially if they go one further and start with the pilot.

The bonus is that in a lot of cases, GSN's chopping wouldn't really make a difference to those with editing skillz.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: xavier45 on October 06, 2012, 10:09:31 AM
Zap2it shows the weekend and Password Plus stays on the schedule, weekends at 9am.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: TLEberle on October 06, 2012, 12:13:16 PM
And honestly, I don't think it's too much to ask for GSN's new PYL lease to consist of the episodes they haven't aired yet
Of course you don't think so.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on October 06, 2012, 10:42:48 PM
And honestly, I don't think it's too much to ask for GSN's new PYL lease to consist of the episodes they haven't aired yet
Of course you don't think so.
Well, hey, they seem to have gone out of their way to get "new" episodes of The $25,000 Pyramid.  It's not completely outside the realm of possibility that they'd do it for PYL.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: clemon79 on October 06, 2012, 11:11:40 PM
Well, hey, they seem to have gone out of their way to get "new" episodes of The $25,000 Pyramid.  It's not completely outside the realm of possibility that they'd do it for PYL.
I think it was the "don't think it's too much to ask" sense of entitlement that ground Travis's gears.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: TLEberle on October 06, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
I think it was the "don't think it's too much to ask" sense of entitlement that ground Travis's gears.
Basically I'm tired of the whining of "Why can't we have show X and episodes Y," when the whiner has little grasp on the economics of running a cable network. It would be slightly less off-putting if the words were couched pleasantly, but the intent would still be there.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: snowpeck on October 07, 2012, 12:00:41 AM
At this stage, it may be the same cost to the network no matter which group of episodes they license. Previously, I would have said it would be cheaper to just license the tapes they already have, eliminating the dubbing process.  But now that they've presumably (yes, I know I'm presuming) moved away from tapes to something more modern, there's likely a dub session no matter what.

That said, I'll be happy no matter which part of the run these are from.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Johnissoevil on October 07, 2012, 08:21:30 AM
So goodbye Whammy, welcome back to the REAL PYL.  I'm pleased.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: tpirfan28 on October 07, 2012, 01:22:12 PM
Interesting to see Password AND Card Sharks on the schedule at the same time.  The last few years they've alternated the two.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: jimlangefan on October 08, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
According to Buzzerblog, GSN is starting with the premiere of Press Your Luck and episode number 234 of Card Sharks.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: jjman920 on October 08, 2012, 08:34:13 PM
I think it was the "don't think it's too much to ask" sense of entitlement that ground Travis's gears.
Basically I'm tired of the whining of "Why can't we have show X and episodes Y," when the whiner has little grasp on the economics of running a cable network. It would be slightly less off-putting if the words were couched pleasantly, but the intent would still be there.
Well the economics seemed to have worked out in this case.

How nice of them to pull this out. It really brings out hope of them doing something unexpected with other shows in the future.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: xavier45 on October 08, 2012, 10:16:08 PM
Another update from Buzzerblog. Both versions of Lingo are leaving GSN. Quite suprising.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Winkfan on October 09, 2012, 12:08:57 AM
According to Buzzerblog, GSN is starting with the premiere of Press Your Luck

Well, that's a surprise!

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and episode number 234 of Card Sharks.

Where would that put it, about 1979, perhaps?

What's next? The remainder of the Match Game '75 run? And onto MG '76, even?

Cordially,
Tammy
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: snowpeck on October 09, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
My DVR will be rolling next Monday for sure.  Card Sharks should be somewhere in March of 1979, by the way.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: WarioBarker on October 09, 2012, 02:04:59 AM
According to Buzzerblog, GSN is starting with the premiere of Press Your Luck and episode number 234 of Card Sharks.
For the 108th or so time this year...dafuq?

The end of the world is coming. Got to clean out the vault now.
Honestly, I don't think the vault has a door anymore, and it's not even Christmas yet!

You know the fun thing about this news? USA never aired the premiere week and some other 1983 shows, and I'm pretty sure the second and third episodes don't circulate (I myself have a DVD containing Pilot-1-4-5-7-8-9-10). This package could very well be all the 1983-84 shows GSN hasn't aired yet, and maybe even the 1985-86 shows that follow the end of the 2000s package; the latter might be a longshot, but the fact GSN's going to air new-to-almost-everybody episodes does raise the possibility significantly.

And a bonus: assuming they don't skip anything, Randy West's reign of terror begins on the 25th. :D

/now stop crunching the damn credits
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: TimK2003 on October 09, 2012, 02:55:33 AM
...Aaaand per Randy West's Facebook posting, his 3-day "reign of terror" commences on October 25th, plus the 26th & 29th, for those of you who would like to see his appearances.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: SRIV94 on October 09, 2012, 10:50:47 AM
My DVR will be rolling next Monday for sure.  Card Sharks should be somewhere in March of 1979, by the way.
3/16/79, to be exact.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Ian Wallis on October 09, 2012, 04:40:09 PM
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USA never aired the premiere week and some other 1983 shows, and I'm pretty sure the second and third episodes don't circulate

You're correct.  The earliest USA episode was sometime in the third week.  The others haven't aired since CBS aired them over 29 years ago.

I guess that means those with PYL episode guides can finally fill in 1983, as there were some missing entries in there.

While I'm glad they're airing from the premiere, those episodes were definately slower than the later episodes.  Hopefully ratings will be good enough for them to keep it on for a while.  You wonder what will happen when they hit the 2/21/84 episode - they could either recycle back to the premiere; jump ahead to Nov 1985, or keep going in sequence through 1984.  Place your bets :)
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on October 09, 2012, 05:01:02 PM
they could either recycle back to the premiere; jump ahead to Nov 1985, or keep going in sequence through 1984.  Place your bets :)
I can't really imagine GSN splitting their lease between two points in the run so far apart (Feb. 1984 and Nov. 1985 are cosmetically fairly different, so it'd be immediately jarring to any viewer watching), and I haven't seen them license an older show from Fremantle for fewer than 200 episodes so odds are they've leased more than the 109 (IIRC) episodes from the start of the run that GSN's skipped previously.

Most likely they've just done a linear 200 episode lease, and will cycle back a couple of weeks after the Larsen episodes air (those episodes were numbered in the high 180s if memory serves)
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: MSTieScott on October 09, 2012, 09:17:09 PM
Most likely they've just done a linear 200 episode lease, and will cycle back a couple of weeks after the Larsen episodes air (those episodes were numbered in the high 180s if memory serves)
Has GSN ever aired the Larson episodes as the two half-hour episodes they originally were (i.e., outside of the documentary)?
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: NickintheATL on October 09, 2012, 09:26:57 PM
Most likely they've just done a linear 200 episode lease, and will cycle back a couple of weeks after the Larsen episodes air (those episodes were numbered in the high 180s if memory serves)
Has GSN ever aired the Larson episodes as the two half-hour episodes they originally were (i.e., outside of the documentary)?
They did on Thanksgiving (or some holiday) one year, IIRC.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: WarioBarker on October 09, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
Most likely they've just done a linear 200 episode lease, and will cycle back a couple of weeks after the Larsen episodes air (those episodes were numbered in the high 180s if memory serves)
Has GSN ever aired the Larson episodes as the two half-hour episodes they originally were (i.e., outside of the documentary)?
They did on Thanksgiving (or some holiday) one year, IIRC.
GSN also aired them during their pathetic and highly-"Dafuq?"-inducing 50 Greatest Game Shows of All Time series. I've seen the thread where the forum discussed it; some good laughs to be had there, mostly at GSN's expense. :)
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: cool245 on October 09, 2012, 10:26:29 PM
Most likely they've just done a linear 200 episode lease, and will cycle back a couple of weeks after the Larsen episodes air (those episodes were numbered in the high 180s if memory serves)
Has GSN ever aired the Larson episodes as the two half-hour episodes they originally were (i.e., outside of the documentary)?
They did on Thanksgiving (or some holiday) one year, IIRC.

They also aired them at least once in the regular rotation.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on October 10, 2012, 10:36:46 AM
Actually, since the question asked if they've 'ever' aired them as opposed to 'usually' airing them, the answer is a firm "yes".  /pedant
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on October 10, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
I seem to remember that GSN consistently skipped the Larson shows until the documentary aired and consistently aired them afterward.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Bobby B. on October 11, 2012, 12:50:52 PM
I seem to remember that GSN consistently skipped the Larson shows until the documentary aired and consistently aired them afterward.

I do remember one instance of them skipping the episodes in regular rotation because they were re-airing the documentary either that same day or within the next couple of days.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Kevin Prather on October 11, 2012, 01:23:11 PM
I seem to remember that GSN consistently skipped the Larson shows until the documentary aired and consistently aired them afterward.
If I remember the documentary correctly, weren't the Larson episodes forbidden from air until 2003, when the documentary came out?
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Ian Wallis on October 11, 2012, 05:39:42 PM
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If I remember the documentary correctly, weren't the Larson episodes forbidden from air until 2003, when the documentary came out?

At the GSC in 2006, Bob Boden did state those episodes were pulled from the rotation until the Big Bucks documentary was ready for air.  After it aired, they did pop up in regular rotation a few times.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on October 12, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
The 1983-early 1984 episodes may be slow, but at least the round 2 boards back then had plenty of money to offer compared to the cheaper ones throughout 1986.

Anyways, I am very, very, excited about this.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: SRIV94 on October 12, 2012, 12:48:55 PM
I suppose I could wait until the episodes air, but at what point do the contestants get into the "Big Bucks!  No Whammies!" mantra?  (The first time I saw the series was about five or six weeks into the run, but don't really remember if they were doing it by then either.)
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on October 12, 2012, 02:06:51 PM
The 1983-early 1984 episodes may be slow, but at least the round 2 boards back then had plenty of money to offer compared to the cheaper ones throughout 1986.
Does the fact that people were awarded slightly more cash for hitting a button and winning a cookie 29 years ago as opposed to 26 years ago really make a lick of difference when watching the footage of said button-pressing today?
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on October 13, 2012, 10:19:28 AM
My only concern is the GSN HD showing: For the past several weeks, GSN HD never artificially stretched anything that aired from 5:00 a.m.-8:30 a.m. pacific, except, for some reason, Karn Feud at 6:30 a.m. pacific.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: MikeK on October 13, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
My only concern is the GSN HD showing: For the past several weeks, GSN HD never artificially stretched anything that aired from 5:00 a.m.-8:30 a.m. pacific, except, for some reason, Karn Feud at 6:30 a.m. pacific.
The ridiculously obvious answer:  Then watch the SD feed.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: tpirfan28 on October 13, 2012, 11:39:54 AM
While I'm glad they're airing from the premiere, those episodes were definitely slower than the later episodes.
I've seen the first episode on YouTube...talk about an editing mess.  The board goes haywire a couple time, too.

Most likely they've just done a linear 200 episode lease, and will cycle back a couple of weeks after the Larsen episodes air (those episodes were numbered in the high 180s if memory serves)
200 would be two weeks after Larsen.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: Ian Wallis on October 14, 2012, 10:09:55 PM
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200 would be two weeks after Larsen

And conveniently, if they ever do another 200-episode lease after this one, there are almost exactly 200 episodes from Nov 1985 - Spet 1986 that would fit perfectly to finish out the show.
Title: Schedule Changes (10/15)
Post by: WarioBarker on October 14, 2012, 11:21:18 PM
Spet 1986
I'm guessing that comes between Smarch and Octember?