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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Darnits on August 07, 2012, 01:50:02 PM
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Was watching an episode a few days ago and a scenario like this occurred:
First trip to the Winner's Circle: $750 win
Second trip to the Winner's Circle: $25,000 win
I always thought that contestants would keep the smaller consolation money won even if they won the $25,000 on their second trip (ie, total of $25,750). However, when the scores were being recapped at the end of the show, the big winner was said to have had only $25,000.
Were they wrong in the recap or was this how it was always done?
Jon
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Were they wrong in the recap or was this how it was always done?
Always done, a $25,000 win paid $25,000 for both trips, whether you won $500 or $10,000 in the first half.
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That is how it was done.
-Jason
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I remember it always being a "bump up"
but since we're talking winners circle, did anyone ever see this:
player 1 goes up to WC in first half of show, doesn't win $10K, but gets the first five subjects.
player 2 goes up to WC in second half of show, immediately passes on first subject to "go for the win"
While I love having returning champions, I never liked how this show did it because of the above possibility.
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but since we're talking winners circle, did anyone ever see this:
player 1 goes up to WC in first half of show, doesn't win $10K, but gets the first five subjects.
player 2 goes up to WC in second half of show, immediately passes on first subject to "go for the win"
While I love having returning champions, I never liked how this show did it because of the above possibility.
Why? If the first contestant scores $750, in order to "go for the win," you'd have to get the remaining five categories, including the tough one at the top. And if you pass straight away you're going to frazzle your celebrity partner who is expecting to blow throw that bottom row, scoop up 300 easy bucks in 15 seconds and use the rest of the time on the last three.
I don't think this is nearly as clever a stratagem as you think it is
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but since we're talking winners circle, did anyone ever see this:
player 1 goes up to WC in first half of show, doesn't win $10K, but gets the first five subjects.
player 2 goes up to WC in second half of show, immediately passes on first subject to "go for the win"
While I love having returning champions, I never liked how this show did it because of the above possibility.
That's about as likely to happen as someone insta-passing every category and bouncing around the board to whatever category they want to play (not very.)
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While I love having returning champions, I never liked how this show did it because of the above possibility.
I never liked contestants standing up on Hollywood Squares because of the possibility of someone deciding to moon America.
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I never liked contestants standing up on Hollywood Squares because of the possibility of someone deciding to moon America.
Dan? Is that you? (http://"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20269&view=findpost&p=242982%3Cbr%20/%3E")
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I never liked contestants standing up on Hollywood Squares because of the possibility of someone deciding to moon America.
Dan? Is that you? (http://"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20269&view=findpost&p=242982%3Cbr%20/%3E")
Nah, can't be; Chris is both coherent and balanced. :)
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That's about as likely to happen as someone insta-passing every category and bouncing around the board to whatever category they want to play (not very.)
Board bouncing, you say? I may have found someone who'll subscribe to your publication. (http://"http://www.oddchange.com/jdoc/pictures/forrest.jpg")
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I don't agree with giving clues just so you can "go for the win". However, I could understand giving the clues so that you can manage the clock better.
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I don't agree with giving clues just so you can "go for the win". However, I could understand giving the clues so that you can manage the clock better.
What's this then? If you're giving the clues, you don't get to see the clock.
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player 1 goes up to WC in first half of show, doesn't win $10K, but gets the first five subjects.
player 2 goes up to WC in second half of show, immediately passes on first subject to "go for the win"
While I love having returning champions, I never liked how this show did it because of the above possibility.
Think about this. You're suggesting that it would be a smart strategy to skip over the easiest box, one that wouldn't take but a few seconds to knock off, in order to have those few extra seconds to maybe get the most difficult box and beat your opponent on points? Seems the most likely scenario in that case is that you fail to get the challenging top box anyway and lose by $50. And the next most likely scenario is that you manage to knock off the top box but screw yourself out of the big money because you didn't get the first one.
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Nah, can't be; Chris is both coherent and balanced. :)
Well, one out of two ain't bad, anyhow. :)
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I don't agree with giving clues just so you can "go for the win". However, I could understand giving the clues so that you can manage the clock better.
What's this then? If you're giving the clues, you don't get to see the clock.
True, but if you have a general sense of how quickly you've gotten the first three, and you need an unusual amount like $550 or $800, you can make a quick decision about the $200 and $250 boxes.
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True, but if you have a general sense of how quickly you've gotten the first three, and you need an unusual amount like $550 or $800, you can make a quick decision about the $200 and $250 boxes.
Or you can just play the game and try to win The Money.
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did anyone ever see this:
player 1 goes up to WC in first half of show, doesn't win $10K, but gets the first five subjects.
player 2 goes up to WC in second half of show, immediately passes on first subject to "go for the win"
While I love having returning champions, I never liked how this show did it because of the above possibility.
I don't recall EVER seeing anyone intentionally doing this.
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did anyone ever see this:
player 1 goes up to WC in first half of show, doesn't win $10K, but gets the first five subjects.
player 2 goes up to WC in second half of show, immediately passes on first subject to "go for the win"
While I love having returning champions, I never liked how this show did it because of the above possibility.
I don't recall EVER seeing anyone intentionally doing this.
It's a completely stupid and pointless strategy, and nobody with half a brain would ever try it. If you're any kind of Pyramid player, the first category should only take a couple of clues in most cases. And if you pass on it, you also risk not getting back to it in time and losing the jackpot.
Besides, if you're the celebrity guest, doing something like that is a good way to not ever get invited back to the show.
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True, but if you have a general sense of how quickly you've gotten the first three, and you need an unusual amount like $550 or $800, you can make a quick decision about the $200 and $250 boxes.
Or you can just play the game and try to win The Money.
If it's going smoothly, sure. But if your opponent has $550, skipping the $200 to concentrate on the $250 (or $300) can mean that you play the game another day.
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If it's going smoothly, sure. But if your opponent has $550, skipping the $200 to concentrate on the $250 (or $300) can mean that you play the game another day.
The only word I can think of to describe any strategy that involves skipping ANYTHING in favor of the $300 is "moronic."
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Am I forgetting a rule? If your opponent scores $750, then if instead of trying to outscore your opponent, you simply play the Winner's Circle straightforwardly and also score $750, wouldn't you get to come back the next day anyway?
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Am I forgetting a rule? If your opponent scores $750, then if instead of trying to outscore your opponent, you simply play the Winner's Circle straightforwardly and also score $750, wouldn't you get to come back the next day anyway?
Yes, you would. Which, I'm assuming, then points back to the stuff we're always talking about regarding playing to tie on Jeopardy!
Except this is far from Jeopardy!
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However, when the scores were being recapped at the end of the show, the big winner was said to have had only $25,000
Another thing to consider are the network's winning limits at the time. When Pyramid returned to CBS in 1982, the $25,000 network ceiling on winnings was still in place. It was raised to $50,000 in 1984. When the show was on ABC in the '70s, $20,000 was their maximum.
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Why do you play?
YOU PLAY
TO WIN
THE GAME!!
End of story
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Wasn't there a very brief time at the beginning of the 80's run where they *did* add the two scores together, meaning a possible take of $35K (and then retired, because of the $25K rule)?
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Also, one question, if someone won the 7-11 and then got the $25,000, would they leave with $25,000 or $26,100?
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They would leave with $26,100.
On that note, on the 1982-1988 CBS Daytime edition (under the $75,000 limit), a contestant could win up to about $108,300, but keep up to an even $100,000. On the 1985-1988 syndicated edition (not counting the tournament), a contestant could win up to $180,500.
In both editions, this includes winning the 7-11 bonus every single time, and winning the $5,000 bonus for breaking the tiebreaker every single time.
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YOU PLAY
TO WIN
THE GAME!!
Hello?
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YOU PLAY
TO WIN
THE GAME!!
Hello?
You don't play it to just play it. (http://"http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/herm.jpg")
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Wasn't there a very brief time at the beginning of the 80's run where they *did* add the two scores together, meaning a possible take of $35K (and then retired, because of the $25K rule)?
No, there never was.
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On that note, on the 1982-1988 CBS Daytime edition (under the $75,000 limit), a contestant could win up to about $108,300, but keep up to an even $100,000.
Source please. My understanding has always been soft cap of $50k, hard cap of $75k, not $75k/$100k.
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Source please. My understanding has always been soft cap of $50k, hard cap of $75k, not $75k/$100k.
The Wikipedia page, while not sourcing any outside pages, does source actual episode numbers. "This was originally $25,000, but was increased to $50,000 on October 22, 1984 (#0542) and to $75,000 on September 29, 1986 (#1041). Players were allowed to keep a maximum of $25,000 in excess of the limit."
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Source please. My understanding has always been soft cap of $50k, hard cap of $75k, not $75k/$100k.
The Wikipedia page, while not sourcing any outside pages, does source actual episode numbers. "This was originally $25,000, but was increased to $50,000 on October 22, 1984 (#0542) and to $75,000 on September 29, 1986 (#1041). Players were allowed to keep a maximum of $25,000 in excess of the limit."
And it wasn't the case that the numbers you mentioned were the upper bounds of what you could keep, as opposed to the point when you were excused from further competition? Back while I had GSN, I heard Dick mention a few times that "you can now win up to $75,000," and I figured that was the $50k plus a further $25k.
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And it wasn't the case that the numbers you mentioned were the upper bounds of what you could keep, as opposed to the point when you were excused from further competition? Back while I had GSN, I heard Dick mention a few times that "you can now win up to $75,000," and I figured that was the $50k plus a further $25k.
That's how I always understood it. "You can win over $50,000" and "You can win up to $75,000" was what was frequently said.
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Something to consider: passing, itself, takes time, and given how it's handled, probably a bit more time than usual if you do it right off the bat when nobody's expecting it. You might wind up using as much time just in passing that first box as it would have taken to win it.
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Something to consider: passing, itself, takes time, and given how it's handled, probably a bit more time than usual if you do it right off the bat when nobody's expecting it.
Good point. This showed up in a recently-aired $25kP. Adrienne auto-passed "Controversial things", and the two or three-second delay sent both Adrienne and Dick screaming at the crew.