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Post by: J.R. on July 13, 2012, 09:39:20 PM
The talk about Jeopardy ties had me thinking.

Has there ever been an episode of anything in which a grand total of nothing was given away? (Things like consolation gifts don't count)

ETA: I'd like to keep this to American shows only. I know the UK has quite a few recent stuff with nothing won.

Appreciated as always.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 13, 2012, 09:41:31 PM
The talk about Jeopardy ties had me thinking.

Has there ever been an episode of anything in which a grand total of nothing was given away? (Things like consolation gifts don't count)

Appreciated as always.

I'm guessing you mean flat footed zero ties where none of the players involved was a returning champion, right?
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Post by: JasonA1 on July 13, 2012, 09:50:56 PM
There were two three-way ties at $0 on Press Your Luck.

-Jason
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Post by: J.R. on July 13, 2012, 09:51:56 PM
I'm guessing you mean flat footed zero ties where none of the players involved was a returning champion, right?
I mean just flat out nothing, ties or not.

Hope that clears it up a bit.
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Post by: TLEberle on July 13, 2012, 09:52:50 PM
Has there ever been an episode of anything in which a grand total of nothing was given away?
Several episodes of Street Smarts ended in a 0-0 tie.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 13, 2012, 10:01:56 PM
There were two three-way ties at $0 on Press Your Luck.

-Jason

And at least one instance where a champ won $0 because the other opponents whammied out.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on July 13, 2012, 10:13:01 PM
Like lots of questions of this type, it's not as simple as it sounds.

Consider Debt, for example.  Losing players got savings bonds of $200 and $500 respectively.  The winner played to get his entire "debt" of a few thousand eliminated, but then played "Bet Your Debt" for double or nothing.  "Nothing" still meant a $1000 or $1500 savings bond, but all those savings bonds could be considered consolation prizes.  So there could have been plenty of times where "nothing" was won as you're defining it.
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Post by: WilliamPorygon on July 14, 2012, 12:08:57 AM
As for J! itself, the second Trebek episode ended with everyone betting it all on Final Jeopardy and missing.
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Post by: Jay Temple on July 14, 2012, 12:18:42 AM
On freakin' Studs, each of the three women decided in advance which guy she'd like to go out with again, if either. If I remember it precisely, the two ways for a guy to win were: (1) He scores more matches and the woman he chooses also chose him, or (2) He loses, but the winner fails on method (1), and his chosen women does choose him. I know I saw a game where neither man won. It was possible to go through the entire game and find out at the end that neither woman wanted to go out with either man again; i.e., there was never even a possibility of a winner.
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Post by: That Don Guy on July 14, 2012, 12:59:21 AM
There were two (that I know of) episodes of The Gong Show where all of the eligible acts were either gonged or interrupted for some reason (in one case, it was during the show's last week, so they had a lot of returning acts, including "The Worm"), so nobody won the prize.

There was one tournament episode of Jeopardy! - in the last seniors tournament, I think - where none of the players had a positive score at the end of Double Jeopardy, so they didn't even bother with the FJ question (the three players got whatever they paid first-round tournament losers back then - $1000, I think - but technically that was a consolation prize).


Those are the "definite" ones I can think of off the top of my head.  I can think of some "possible" ones:

It's possible that a couple on The Moneymaze won zero - at least one couple lost all of the first three rounds but ended up winning the game, and they could have won zero in the $10,000 Dash.

I assume a number of episodes of GSN's Friend or Foe had everybody saying "foe" so nobody won anything?
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Post by: Steve Gavazzi on July 14, 2012, 01:02:55 AM
There was one tournament episode of Jeopardy! - in the last seniors tournament, I think - where none of the players had a positive score at the end of Double Jeopardy, so they didn't even bother with the FJ question (the three players got whatever they paid first-round tournament losers back then - $1000, I think - but technically that was a consolation prize).
So how did they fill the time at the end of the show?
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Post by: clemon79 on July 14, 2012, 01:30:24 AM
So how did they fill the time at the end of the show?
Musical guest.
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Post by: Ian Wallis on July 14, 2012, 10:18:51 AM
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There were two three-way ties at $0 on Press Your Luck

There was also a show where two players tied with $0 and the other whammied out; plus at least one other where two players whammied out and the third was left with $0.

The three-way $0 tie also happened at least once on Second Chance, as evidenced by a recently turned-up audio only episode.
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Post by: Kevin Prather on July 14, 2012, 03:48:39 PM
Seems to me a 3-way tie at zero on PYL would be above and beyond relevant to the OP. No cash awarded, and since everyone's returning, no parting gifts on that particular episode.

EDIT: Travis corrects me by way of Bob Harris. (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs1MkhUIG9A&feature=plcp") Evidently, you get your Lovely Parting Gifts on a per episode basis.
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Post by: SRIV94 on July 14, 2012, 05:19:27 PM
There were two (that I know of) episodes of The Gong Show where all of the eligible acts were either gonged or interrupted for some reason (in one case, it was during the show's last week, so they had a lot of returning acts, including "The Worm"), so nobody won the prize.
The other was in the last show of the second Steve Martin week in 1977, but in that instance the "Worst Act of the Week" (later to become the "Most Outrageous Act of the Week") was from that episode, so $516.32 was given away.  (They stopped that award in early 1978.)
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Post by: TimK2003 on July 15, 2012, 03:23:12 AM

There was also a show where two players tied with $0 and the other whammied out; plus at least one other where two players whammied out and the third was left with $0.


That was probably the episode with an older lady named Mabel, I have that ep on tape somewhere.
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Post by: whewfan on July 15, 2012, 05:03:56 PM
There were two (that I know of) episodes of The Gong Show where all of the eligible acts were either gonged or interrupted for some reason (in one case, it was during the show's last week, so they had a lot of returning acts, including "The Worm"), so nobody won the prize.
The other was in the last show of the second Steve Martin week in 1977, but in that instance the "Worst Act of the Week" (later to become the "Most Outrageous Act of the Week") was from that episode, so $516.32 was given away.  (They stopped that award in early 1978.)

Yep, I think I have that episode on tape. Since every act was being gonged, and they had time to fill, Steve Martin played his banjo on the stage, not once, but TWICE.
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Post by: alfonzos on July 15, 2012, 05:15:15 PM
Yes, I witnessed on episode of Fleming's J! where no contestant qualified for Final Jeopardy. Credits ran on a slow crawl that day.
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Post by: SamJ93 on July 15, 2012, 07:39:15 PM
How about the first ep. of the original Twenty-One, the only one that wasn't rigged?  The story goes that only one question was answered correctly during the entire show--so it's possible the two contestants in question didn't receive anything for their efforts.  Perhaps someone who's seen the show in question can corroborate?
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Post by: davidhammett on July 15, 2012, 11:28:51 PM
There was an episode of Merv Griffin's Crosswords where the winning contestant had a score of negative $250.  Then they played the endgame and didn't win, so the total winnings were $0.  If you weren't watching on Christmas Eve that year (where they decided to bury the episode), you probably missed it.
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Post by: PYLdude on July 15, 2012, 11:44:26 PM
There was an episode of Merv Griffin's Crosswords where the winning contestant had a score of negative $250.  Then they played the endgame and didn't win, so the total winnings were $0.  If you weren't watching on Christmas Eve that year (where they decided to bury the episode), you probably missed it.

I wasn't and I saw it. It was just another example of how broken that format was.
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Post by: clemon79 on July 16, 2012, 12:55:24 AM
There was an episode of Merv Griffin's Crosswords where the winning contestant had a score of negative $250.  Then they played the endgame and didn't win, so the total winnings were $0.
Bah. They should have billed his ass. :)
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Post by: SamJ93 on July 16, 2012, 07:23:19 AM
There was an episode of Merv Griffin's Crosswords where the winning contestant had a score of negative $250.  Then they played the endgame and didn't win, so the total winnings were $0.
Bah. They should have billed his ass. :)

Just like on J!, as Marge Simpson found out the hard way...
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Post by: BillCullen1 on July 16, 2012, 01:24:33 PM
IIRC, on the first season of Trebek's Jeopardy, all three contestants bet all their winnings on FJ and got it wrong. Alex said there would be three NEW contetants on the next show. This was 1984, and the memory is a bit fuzzy. The strategy of FJ wasn't as established as it is now.

On Rayburn's syndie MG, a couple of contestants didn't match any of the Super Match answers and won $0. I remember Rayburn saying "shake my hand" while in the background Brett was saying "Doesn't he get $100?" and someone saying "Not anymore." Might have been CNR.

On Match Game PM, a couple of contestants won $0. IIRC, one guy got $100 and Rayburn said "With your luck you'll get mugged on the way home." For one lady they played a question where each celeb she matched got her $100. I beieve she matched all six.
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Post by: BrandonFG on July 16, 2012, 01:26:55 PM
IIRC, on the first season of Trebek's Jeopardy, all three contestants bet all their winnings on FJ and got it wrong. Alex said there would be three NEW contetants on the next show. This was 1984, and the memory is a bit fuzzy. The strategy of FJ wasn't as established as it is now.
The second episode I believe. It happened again c. 1997...I remember watching it and being quite surprised.
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Post by: Jay Temple on July 16, 2012, 02:40:58 PM
IIRC, on the first season of Trebek's Jeopardy, all three contestants bet all their winnings on FJ and got it wrong. Alex said there would be three NEW contetants on the next show. This was 1984, and the memory is a bit fuzzy. The strategy of FJ wasn't as established as it is now.
The second episode I believe. It happened again c. 1997...I remember watching it and being quite surprised.
Absolutely confirmed about the second ep. 1997 is about right for the other. It didn't air in my area (Labor Day show, hence pre-empted by telethon?) so I tuned in the next day and was even more surprised when there was no returning champion!
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Post by: Kevin Prather on July 16, 2012, 02:54:50 PM
1997 is about right for the other. It didn't air in my area (Labor Day show, hence pre-empted by telethon?) so I tuned in the next day and was even more surprised when there was no returning champion!
According to j-archive, Labor Day '97 was right in the middle of Fred Ramen's run.
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Post by: Matt Ottinger on July 16, 2012, 03:51:39 PM
IIRC, on the first season of Trebek's Jeopardy, all three contestants bet all their winnings on FJ and got it wrong. Alex said there would be three NEW contetants on the next show. This was 1984, and the memory is a bit fuzzy. The strategy of FJ wasn't as established as it is now.
Unfortunately, for a lot of people, the lesson learned was that you're supposed to wager everything except one dollar.  For the record, that by itself is rarely a very good strategy either, and usually worse than wagering it all.
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Post by: clemon79 on July 16, 2012, 03:54:03 PM
For one lady they played a question where each celeb she matched got her $100. I beieve she matched all six.
I would be curious to get some kind of corroboration on this, because I'd think it would have come up before now.
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Post by: KrisW73 on July 16, 2012, 04:11:03 PM
For one lady they played a question where each celeb she matched got her $100. I beieve she matched all six.
I would be curious to get some kind of corroboration on this, because I'd think it would have come up before now.

Here's the Super Matches in question and the mini game for $100 at a match:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0Aum5WZV8P0[/media]
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Post by: clemon79 on July 16, 2012, 04:59:56 PM
Here's the Super Matches in question and the mini game for $100 at a match:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0Aum5WZV8P0[/media]
Well, I'll be, I learned something today. Thanks!
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Post by: Steve Gavazzi on July 16, 2012, 05:16:58 PM
I've seen that episode of Match Game at least twice...I was actually more surprised to read that there were other times that someone failed to match where they didn't do that.
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Post by: KrisW73 on July 16, 2012, 09:19:49 PM
Here's the Super Matches in question and the mini game for $100 at a match:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0Aum5WZV8P0[/media]
Well, I'll be, I learned something today. Thanks!

You're welcome!
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Post by: PYLdude on July 17, 2012, 12:35:27 AM
I've seen that episode of Match Game at least twice...I was actually more surprised to read that there were other times that someone failed to match where they didn't do that.

In general, or on MGPM?
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Post by: Unrealtor on July 17, 2012, 11:52:56 AM
I recall seeing an episode of MG where the head-to-head was played for $100 in consolation cash after the contestant struck out on Super Match. For a seemingly-rare occurrence, they sure seemed to change the rules a lot.