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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Pyramid20000 on July 09, 2012, 11:02:14 PM
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Did the show get picked up?
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I saw a post somewhere seeking audience members (Buzzerblog maybe?), but no official announcement regarding a premiere or number of episodes.
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Did the show get picked up?
Yes. Tapings start later this month.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Yes. Tapings start later this month.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
Sigh. Guess that makes this game show number 7 that I applied to and didn't get picked.
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Question, I know you can only appear on so many shows in a certain length of time (isn't it 1 show in a year, or 3 shows in 10 years? I'm not sure of that exact rule, feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken with my guess), but is there a restriction on how many times you can try out for a given show, assuming you haven't actually gotten on-air on that show yet, and assuming you are not under any other eligibility restrictions (such as having appeared on too many shows to get picked again so soon, for example)?
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Question, I know you can only appear on so many shows in a certain length of time (isn't it 1 show in a year, or 3 shows in 10 years? I'm not sure of that exact rule, feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken with my guess), but is there a restriction on how many times you can try out for a given show, assuming you haven't actually gotten on-air on that show yet, and assuming you are not under any other eligibility restrictions (such as having appeared on too many shows to get picked again so soon, for example)?
That varies by show. Jeopardy is once a year, but Millionaire is five times in a year(that's what the PAs told me at the Chicago auditions on Monday)
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but is there a restriction on how many times you can try out for a given show,
From what I've read, Jeopardy has a six-month cool-off period.
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but is there a restriction on how many times you can try out for a given show,
From what I've read, Jeopardy has a six-month cool-off period.
I was under the impression that it was once every twelve months- at least that's what I gathered from the rulesheet I read every time I sign up for the online test.
Trying out, though, I would figure that as long as you adhere to the rules regarding how often you can try out during one season, you can keep coming back as often as you want to. Especially for Millionaire, as far as I understood- you're going there on your dime (at least to the NYC auditions- do they still do individual city auditions?), so it's no one else's money but your own that you're spending.
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Yes, they still do city auditions -- so says my appointment book.
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Especially for Millionaire...do they still do individual city auditions?
Yes, they still do city auditions -- so says my appointment book.
Road Audition info HERE! (http://"http://www.dadt.com/millionaire/auditions/road/")
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I don't believe it...Norfolk finally gets a game show audition. I think the last one was when the Wheelmobile came in late-2001.
Unfortunately, I worked for an ABC affiliate up until 3 months ago, so I think I'm still ineligible for another 57 months. :-P
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Back to The Pyramid for a moment, GSN has made it official. This highly anticipated version debuts Monday, September 3 at 6pm. (http://"http://corp.gsn.com/press/releases/gsn-announces-premiere-pyramid-monday-september-3")
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Back to The Pyramid for a moment, GSN has made it official. This highly anticipated version debuts Monday, September 3 at 6pm. (http://"http://corp.gsn.com/press/releases/gsn-announces-premiere-pyramid-monday-september-3")
And with Mike Richards behind the podium. Which is a shame, because it means a bunch of people won't give the show a chance.
/not one of those people
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Back to The Pyramid for a moment, GSN has made it official. This highly anticipated version debuts Monday, September 3 at 6pm. (http://"http://corp.gsn.com/press/releases/gsn-announces-premiere-pyramid-monday-september-3")
And with Mike Richards behind the podium. Which is a shame, because it means a bunch of people won't give the show a chance.
/not one of those people
It's an interesting choice to be sure, and one I probably wouldn't have thought of (many host choices nowadays are, seeing as there's no longer a big dedicated pool for game show hosts). But Mosher's report said he did a good job. Plus I don't have the prejudice certain people have against him, as I still like TPIR and LMAD and don't always see all the fuss those certain people seem to have.
/He couldn't be another John Davidson, at least...could he????
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Back to The Pyramid for a moment, GSN has made it official. This highly anticipated version debuts Monday, September 3 at 6pm. (http://"http://corp.gsn.com/press/releases/gsn-announces-premiere-pyramid-monday-september-3")
And with Mike Richards behind the podium. Which is a shame, because it means a bunch of people won't give the show a chance.
/not one of those people
It's an interesting choice to be sure, and one I probably wouldn't have thought of (many host choices nowadays are, seeing as there's no longer a big dedicated pool for game show hosts). But Mosher's report said he did a good job. Plus I don't have the prejudice certain people have against him, as I still like TPIR and LMAD and don't always see all the fuss those certain people seem to have.
/He couldn't be another John Davidson, at least...could he????
To me, the fact that he hosted five series of "Beauty and the Geek" and didn't make much of an impact doing that says something.
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Plus I don't have the prejudice certain people have against him, as I still like TPIR and LMAD and don't always see all the fuss those certain people seem to have.
I don't think anyone makes a fuss as much as the show could be better produced without his micromanaging as much. That's all.
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To me, the fact that he hosted five series of "Beauty and the Geek" and didn't make much of an impact doing that says something.
How many people even knew the show existed though? Or even the entire CW network for that matter.
I try not to judge books by their covers (or in this case press releases). I'll be watching on September 3rd. That said, if it's horrible, I won't be watching on September 4th... but I'll at least give it a chance.
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This sentence from the press release is brutal:
THE PYRAMID joins the previously announced new shows on GSN this fall: THE AMERICAN BIBLE CHALLENGE and BEAT THE CHEFS, which are the first of GSN’s “Shiny Floor Game” category—contemporary studio-based game shows that focus on themes prevalent in pop culture.
Where to begin? An all-time classic format joins two lifestyle niche turds this fall. But they all have shiny floors!
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“Shiny Floor Game”
Who came up with this?
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Back to The Pyramid for a moment, GSN has made it official. This highly anticipated version debuts Monday, September 3 at 6pm. (http://"http://corp.gsn.com/press/releases/gsn-announces-premiere-pyramid-monday-september-3")
And with Mike Richards behind the podium. Which is a shame, because it means a bunch of people won't give the show a chance.
/not one of those people
That's not exactly true. From what I've seen, while their reaction was mixed, a good number of those bunch of people are willing to give this show a chance regardless of the host. I'm glad to see that.
Glad to see a premiere date. Now, the wait is on for a whole set shot or promo.
“Shiny Floor Game”
Who came up with this?
I'd say an executive's two year old niece, but I have no proof to back that up.
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That's not exactly true.
Show me where "a number of people will write off the show because the person hosting it is Public Enemy Number One in the eyes of some folks" is in any way a false statement.
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And with Mike Richards behind the podium. Which is a shame, because it means a bunch of people won't give the show a chance.
/not one of those people
That's not exactly true. From what I've seen, while their reaction was mixed, a good number of those bunch of people are willing to give this show a chance regardless of the host. I'm glad to see that.
That's certainly true, but there are quite a few people who won't watch because the host is "the asshole who ruined TPiR forEVER!!1!" That's an unfair shake, and I say that as someone who's not the biggest fan of Mike's changes.
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That's not exactly true.
Show me where "a number of people will write off the show because the person hosting it is Public Enemy Number One in the eyes of some folks" is in any way a false statement.
That's certainly true, but there are quite a few people who won't watch because the host is "the asshole who ruined TPiR forEVER!!1!" That's an unfair shake, and I say that as someone who's not the biggest fan of Mike's changes.
All I'm saying is that in the two threads about Pyramid, on the site in the epicenter of the Mike R. criticism, I saw one person say the show was going to be terrible because of Mike, and outside of that one person I don't really recall seeing one person say that they weren't going to watch because of Mike. I saw more than one person say they were going to give the show a shot. I certainly can't speak for the people who didn't reply in those threads, but I was pleased to see some of those posters who have been hard on Mike (and were, in fact hard on him in those very threads) still say they were going to give it a shot.
The statement can hold true and I agree with it, but I was surprised by the reaction. I think it has been such a long time waiting for a new Pyramid series that people just want to see it make it to air. They could've put Kathy* Griffin as the host and people would still tune in.
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“Shiny Floor Game”
Who came up with this?
As idiotic as I thought it was, the second I started making fun of it I had a lot of TV producers and execs tell me that, internally, they've been called "shiny floor games" for years. And right after that I saw it start to pop in in several releases and articles when describing studio-based shows. It doesn't make it any less stupid. I don't fully know why we just can't say "game show". But it's not something they made up. It's been used by idiots for a while.
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It's only moderately better than calling it a "reality show". Is that supposed to be their way of differentiating b/w studio game and outdoor reality shows? If so, it's still idiotic.
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Traditional game shows are now known as "shiny floor games". What's next, calling oldies stations "Classic Hits"?
/Oh, no, wait....
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"Shiny floor games" ranks right up there with "flyover country" as an elitist description.
What a pile of Shinola.
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Shinola: Granola that's so good for you, you'll be able to see your colon wall.
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Shinola: Granola that's so good for you, you'll be able to see your colon wall.
Colon wall, the new obstacle on Wipeout.
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Is that supposed to be their way of differentiating b/w studio game and outdoor reality shows? If so, it's still idiotic.
I believe that's exactly it. And I agree that it's silly. But if it was internal jargon, I got no gripe. Putting it out in the wild seems a little insulting, however accurate. (Offhand, I can't name a traditional studio-based game show that *didn't* have a shiny floor.)
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(Offhand, I can't name a traditional studio-based game show that *didn't* have a shiny floor.)
Unless I'm missing a chunk of the conversation (which is entirely possible), there are any number of atrocious sets from the seventies that used carpeted floors. I don't recall having ever heard the term "shiny floor games" when talking to people in the business, but it doesn't strike me as being anything more than amusing industry shorthand.
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And with Mike Richards behind the podium. Which is a shame, because it means a bunch of people won't give the show a chance.
/not one of those people
It's an interesting choice to be sure, and one I probably wouldn't have thought of (many host choices nowadays are, seeing as there's no longer a big dedicated pool for game show hosts). But Mosher's report said he did a good job. Plus I don't have the prejudice certain people have against him, as I still like TPIR and LMAD and don't always see all the fuss those certain people seem to have.
/He couldn't be another John Davidson, at least...could he????
Let's cross our fingers and hope not. I'm willing to watch a few eps of this before passing judgment. I don't remember the last time I was this excited about the debut of a GSN original.
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I don't recall having ever heard the term "shiny floor games" when talking to people in the business,
I'm still entertaining the possibility that it's an inside joke to fark with newbies, and that shortly after dropping the term they send someone out on a snipe hunt.
Going back to my earlier comments: a picture of Mike smiling behind his Pyramid podium was posted to a $100,000 Pyramid FB group (I assume there are a few, but it's the one I'm on) this morning. The comments started RIGHT IN on how The Asshole Who Ruined TPiR is going to render the show unwatchable and OMG He Clearly Doesn't Even Want To Be There. (Again, a static picture of a guy smiling behind a podium with no context at all of what the picture was originally taken for.)
I hate being right sometimes.
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Traditional game shows are now known as "shiny floor games". What's next, calling oldies stations "Classic Hits"?
/Oh, no, wait....
And implying that said pop music began in 1964? Impossible!
Next, you'll tell me they'll call pro wrestling "sports entertainment." Ha!
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I don't recall having ever heard the term "shiny floor games" when talking to people in the business,
I'm still entertaining the possibility that it's an inside joke to fark with newbies, and that shortly after dropping the term they send someone out on a snipe hunt.
Going back to my earlier comments: a picture of Mike smiling behind his Pyramid podium was posted to a $100,000 Pyramid FB group (I assume there are a few, but it's the one I'm on) this morning. The comments started RIGHT IN on how The Asshole Who Ruined TPiR is going to render the show unwatchable and OMG He Clearly Doesn't Even Want To Be There. (Again, a static picture of a guy smiling behind a podium with no context at all of what the picture was originally taken for.)
I hate being right sometimes.
I saw said picture...I didn't sense what the haters are claiming from it. Hey, as long as he is a competent host, I don't care if he urinated on a picture of Bob Barker. My worry, aside from the "unknown" factor, is, as I said before, Dick Clark is fresh in our minds with his passing, so TPIR or not there will be another set of people who won't give him a chance if he doesn't deliver something at least mildly resembling Clark's style.
And I still don't get how he "ruined" TPIR. Aside from the "variety show" fetish. The basics are still there.
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"Shiny floor games" ranks right up there with "flyover country" as an elitist description.
And I thought "Shiny Floor Games" were those that had the Johnson Wax Co. as one of the prize sponsors.
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I saw said picture...I didn't sense what the haters are claiming from it.
Of course you didn't, because you are capable of sensible thought.
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Of course you didn't, because you are capable of sensible thought.\
Funny, that, because when he typed the phrase "urinated on a picture of Bob Barker" I lost all credulity. (Really, there wasn't a single way in the English language that would have communicated the thought without the strange and unnecessary imagery?)
He might have made a terrific point after the fact, but I had checked out.
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I wonder if they're avoiding the term "game show" out a fear the public associates the term with "Wink Martindale in a plaid suit with chintzy production values" kind of production?
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Going back to my earlier comments: a picture of Mike smiling behind his Pyramid podium was posted to a $100,000 Pyramid FB group (I assume there are a few, but it's the one I'm on) this morning. The comments started RIGHT IN on how The Asshole Who Ruined TPiR is going to render the show unwatchable and OMG He Clearly Doesn't Even Want To Be There. (Again, a static picture of a guy smiling behind a podium with no context at all of what the picture was originally taken for.)
I hate being right sometimes.
That's a shame. It really is. There's always rotten apples in a tree.
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I wonder if they're avoiding the term "game show" out a fear the public associates the term with "Wink Martindale in a plaid suit with chintzy production values" kind of production?
That's my theory too, along with the fear of scaring away advertisers b/c game shows supposedly skew older audiences. Same reason the equally insipid "reality show" has become the buzzterm.
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the fear of scaring away advertisers b/c game shows supposedly skew older audiences. Same reason the equally insipid "reality show" has become the buzzterm.
Nobody is fooling the advertisers. They know it's a shiny-floor game show (I prefer the term motorized-spotlight game show but whatever).
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It's time now for the official Game Show Forum christening of the upcoming version of Pyramid:
[size="5"]Mikeymid[/size]
Do I read correctly that FremantleMedia is not involved with Pyramid in any way, shape or form?
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Thanks Lemon, and sorry Berle for me being so...graphic.
I wonder if they're avoiding the term "game show" out a fear the public associates the term with "Wink Martindale in a plaid suit with chintzy production values" kind of production?
That's my theory too, along with the fear of scaring away advertisers b/c game shows supposedly skew older audiences. Same reason the equally insipid "reality show" has become the buzzterm.
Oh God, Vince McMahon is giving GSN advice! It's like, we all know what the product is, giving it a new name does not change it.
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It's time now for the official Game Show Forum christening of the upcoming version of Pyramid:
[size="5"]Mikeymid[/size]
Do I read correctly that FremantleMedia is not involved with Pyramid in any way, shape or form?
If it did, Rossi Moreale would host, and instead of $500 per perfect round, you first get Lots of Love, then hugs and kisses. Get 21 and I'll leave it to your imaginations.
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Funny, that, because when he typed the phrase "urinated on a picture of Bob Barker" I lost all credulity.
That part wasn't there at the time I replied.
/who in the hell is Berle?
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Get 21 and I'll leave it to your imaginations.
I think this is an outstanding time to point out that at one point before they became famous for the little gray box that ate free time by the shitton, that Nintendo was in the business of hotel rooms that you could rent by the hour.
And that's all I'm going to say about that. :)
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(Offhand, I can't name a traditional studio-based game show that *didn't* have a shiny floor.)
Unless I'm missing a chunk of the conversation (which is entirely possible), there are any number of atrocious sets from the seventies that used carpeted floors. I don't recall having ever heard the term "shiny floor games" when talking to people in the business, but it doesn't strike me as being anything more than supposedly amusing industry shorthand.
Fixed that for you.
As for carpeting, I thought about Match Game and Split Second right away, but noticed that in full-set shots there was always shiny floor present, too.
Anyway. Doesn't sound like there'll be a bug eaten among these three new GSN originals, so they're already okay by me.
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/who in the hell is Berle?
I think James doesn't get that it's T.L. Eberle, and not TLE Berle.
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/who in the hell is Berle?
I think James doesn't get that it's T.L. Eberle, and not TLE Berle.
What he said.
Also wondering, can I still be considered sensible?
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Also wondering, can I still be considered sensible?
Anything's possible.
Given GSN's track record, you could at least say this time that they picked someone who actually has some hosting experience. Previous hosts include: Carrie Ann Inaba, Bill Engvall, Jerry Springer, Sherri Shepherd, Alfonzo Ribeiro, Corbin Bernsen, Patrick Duffy, Richard Karn.
Was Bob Goen not available? What about Todd Newton or Mark Walberg? Yes, they picked someone with a modicum of hosting experience. Mazel tov. Could they not have found someone with more, is what I'm asking.
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/who in the hell is Berle?
I think James doesn't get that it's T.L. Eberle, and not TLE Berle.
You're TLE Berle now.
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/who in the hell is Berle?
I think James doesn't get that it's T.L. Eberle, and not TLE Berle.
You're TLE Berle now.
But is pronounced "Berle" or "Burly"?
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Given GSN's track record, you could at least say this time that they picked someone who actually has some hosting experience. Previous hosts include: Carrie Ann Inaba, Bill Engvall, Jerry Springer, Sherri Shepherd, Alfonzo Ribeiro, Corbin Bernsen, Patrick Duffy, Richard Karn.
Was Bob Goen not available? What about Todd Newton or Mark Walberg? Yes, they picked someone with a modicum of hosting experience. Mazel tov. Could they not have found someone with more, is what I'm asking.
I wonder how much influence Michael Davies/ER had in the decision, and whether or not he wanted an 80s TV star for this show. Then again, Superman tried out for the CBS pilot, so who knows?
Bob, Todd, Mark would've been awesome; I also wonder would Todd have been too busy with Family Game Night?
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But is pronounced "Berle" or "Burly"?
Early, like the kind of riser I ain't.
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Also wondering, can I still be considered sensible?
Anything's possible.
Given GSN's track record, you could at least say this time that they picked someone who actually has some hosting experience. Previous hosts include: Carrie Ann Inaba, Bill Engvall, Jerry Springer, Sherri Shepherd, Alfonzo Ribeiro, Corbin Bernsen, Patrick Duffy, Richard Karn.
Was Bob Goen not available? What about Todd Newton or Mark Walberg? Yes, they picked someone with a modicum of hosting experience. Mazel tov. Could they not have found someone with more, is what I'm asking.
Richard Karn did have some hosting experience before working for a GSN show...or do I have to DOUBLE YOUR MEMORY?
But I see your point...comedian, talk show host, other well-known or formerly well-known (usually the latter) TV personality. That's usually the norm nowadays for GS casting, actually. Like I said before, the pool of dedicated game show hosts isn't nearly as big as it was in the '70s and '80s. That or TV execs don't have enough faith in them before a "name."
/Hey, didn't Mark Walberg host the dreaded '96 Pyramid pilot?
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His close friends call TLEberle "MILTON"
OBGS: Milton Berle hosted Jackpot Bowling, a shiny alley show.
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Also wondering, can I still be considered sensible?
Anything's possible.
Given GSN's track record, you could at least say this time that they picked someone who actually has some hosting experience. Previous hosts include: Carrie Ann Inaba, Bill Engvall, Jerry Springer, Sherri Shepherd, Alfonzo Ribeiro, Corbin Bernsen, Patrick Duffy, Richard Karn.
Was Bob Goen not available? What about Todd Newton or Mark Walberg? Yes, they picked someone with a modicum of hosting experience. Mazel tov. Could they not have found someone with more, is what I'm asking.
Richard Karn did have some hosting experience before working for a GSN show...or do I have to DOUBLE YOUR MEMORY?
I think a lot of us are still trying to forget Flannel Feud too.
Springer as well qualifies as having hosting experience, what with his helming of the UK Greed.
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(Offhand, I can't name a traditional studio-based game show that *didn't* have a shiny floor.)
Unless I'm missing a chunk of the conversation (which is entirely possible), there are any number of atrocious sets from the seventies that used carpeted floors. I don't recall having ever heard the term "shiny floor games" when talking to people in the business, but it doesn't strike me as being anything more than supposedly amusing industry shorthand.
Fixed that for you.
As for carpeting, I thought about Match Game and Split Second right away, but noticed that in full-set shots there was always shiny floor present, too.
Anyway. Doesn't sound like there'll be a bug eaten among these three new GSN originals, so they're already okay by me.
70s Pyramid was pretty much carpeted front to back. The shiny floor was just under the carpeting so it makes sense, haha. :)
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Richard Karn did have some hosting experience before working for a GSN show...or do I have to DOUBLE YOUR MEMORY?
Yes he did have experience; but was it good experience.
I'd actually cast my lot with Springer first, given the talk show angle; you have to keep things moving, ad lib and adjust on the fly and always keep your cool.
(could we all chill down with the caps and pick italics, bold or underline? We do have 'em, y'know.)
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His close friends call TLEberle "MILTON"
So do mine, but for a different reason.
/Don't worry, I'll only pull out enough to win
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His close friends call TLEberle "MILTON"
So do mine, but for a different reason.
Because you like to wear dresses?
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Because you like to wear dresses?
That too, but they have to be ankle length. IYKWIM. AITTYD.
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That too, but they have to be ankle length. IYKWIM. AITTYD.
I am severely disappoint. We've been mates for ten years now, and I can't think of a single angle for that which ends up being funnier than it would be creepy or lame.
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I am severely disappoint. We've been mates for ten years now, and I can't think of a single angle for that which ends up being funnier than it would be creepy or lame.
I dunno. I'm amused. :D
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Hey, so, The Pyramid! Gonna be good! If you want in on the audience, keep on eye on this ticket page (http://"http://onsetproductions.com/calendar/tickets.aspx?showID=204").
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Hey, so, The Pyramid! Gonna be good! If you want in on the audience, keep on eye on this ticket page (http://"http://onsetproductions.com/calendar/tickets.aspx?showID=204").
Yeah, what he said...
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Hey, so, The Pyramid! Gonna be good! If you want in on the audience, keep on eye on this ticket page (http://"http://onsetproductions.com/calendar/tickets.aspx?showID=204").
Yeah, what he said...
Looks like the audience is going to be getting some camera time, according to this site.
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Hey, so, The Pyramid! Gonna be good! If you want in on the audience, keep on eye on this ticket page (http://"http://onsetproductions.com/calendar/tickets.aspx?showID=204").
Yeah, what he said...
Looks like the audience is going to be getting some camera time, according to this site.
Par for the course with Davies and Co.
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Hey, so, The Pyramid! Gonna be good! If you want in on the audience, keep on eye on this ticket page (http://"http://onsetproductions.com/calendar/tickets.aspx?showID=204").
Yeah, what he said...
Looks like the audience is going to be getting some camera time, according to this site.
Par for the course with Davies and Co.
Seems to be going along the lines of the $1MP pilot from 2009...what we saw of the set looks like it came from there too. So maybe they did save the 2009 set/board/etc. and didn't bother for the 2010 pilot just in case it was wasted for another unsold pilot.
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Tickets are now open (http://"http://buzzerblog.com/2012/07/the-pyramid-begins-taping-this-weekend-tickets-now-available/") and the show begins taping this weekend. $8 an hour for up to five episodes if you're in the area.
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Since when does a television program charge for an audience???? There are some FCC guidelines that prohibit that.
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Since when does a television program charge for an audience???? There are some FCC guidelines that prohibit that.
They aren't charging, they're paying for Butts In Seats. Say hi to Mario500 for me, though.
Which really needs to be a band name somewhere.
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They aren't charging, they're paying for Butts In Seats. Say hi to Mario500 for me, though.
Which really needs to be a band name somewhere.
Butts In Seats is my Alice In Chains cover band.
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I think that was also the Prince cover band that played at one of the local festivals...
/Anyone?
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Since when does a television program charge for an audience???? There are some FCC guidelines that prohibit that.
They aren't charging, they're paying for Butts In Seats.
Hates being reminded of "butts in seats" (http://"http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/t/tony/09.jpg")
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Hates being reminded of "butts in seats" (http://"http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/t/tony/09.jpg")
I lol'd. Well done. Excellent choice of image, even. :)
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$8 an hour for up to five episodes if you're in the area.
Signed up for one of the 5-episode taping days, and hope to walk out with $24 or less.
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$8 an hour for up to five episodes if you're in the area.
Signed up for one of the 5-episode taping days, and hope to walk out with $24 or less.
Well, look at it this way: if you get $24 or less, they're clearly doing something right and that'll pay off greatly later this year. Otherwise, you're getting paid progressively more money to watch a trainwreck.
If they tape both front games of an episode first, prep the Winner's Circle celeb with the categories, retape reactions/explanations/whatever for no discernible reason, or have the anal judging of Donnymid...I'd say get out of dodge. (Or at the very least, voice your concerns.)
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Paying for butts. Yikes! Pretty sad.
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Paying for butts. Yikes! Pretty sad.
And nothing new. I don't think it'll affect the quality of the show one iota.
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Paying for butts. Yikes! Pretty sad.
And nothing new. I don't think it'll affect the quality of the show one iota.
I think you got whooshed, BFG. Looks like Toddy was speaking facetiously on my end.
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Haha you said end.
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I think you got whooshed, BFG. Looks like Toddy was speaking facetiously on my end.
How could you tell? This is the guy who said "If you bomb, it airs" no matter what the consequence, and he was ready to unleash an FCC investigation until he was set right.
/Oh, I have BENEFIBER BINGO!
//In one post.
///That's probably not the record.
////I bet he's done it in one sentence before.
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I think you got whooshed, BFG. Looks like Toddy was speaking facetiously on my end.
How could you tell? This is the guy who said "If you bomb, it airs" no matter what the consequence, and he was ready to unleash an FCC investigation until he was set right.
Point taken, mine still stands.
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I think you got whooshed, BFG. Looks like Toddy was speaking facetiously on my end.
How could you tell? This is the guy who said "If you bomb, it airs" no matter what the consequence, and he was ready to unleash an FCC investigation until he was set right.
Point taken, mine still stands.
I was mainly going by his comment from yesterday, but it's hard to tell from just one sentence today...
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If they tape both front games of an episode first, prep the Winner's Circle celeb with the categories, retape reactions/explanations/whatever for no discernible reason, or have the anal judging of Donnymid...I'd say get out of dodge. (Or at the very least, voice your concerns.)
What if they play the game standing up?
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(Or at the very least, voice your concerns.)
Are you frigging kidding me?
(I missed this the first time. Benefiber, indeed.)
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(Or at the very least, voice your concerns.)
I have none. They made at least 2 pilots that looked pretty damn faithful to what Dick Clark hosted 25-40* years ago, and it really sounds like they know what they're doing. I have no reason to believe this version will be too different from the '09 pilot recently linked to. Why are you so scared of New Pyramid? Seriously, you keep going on and on looking for reasons to dislike it. Relax, I don't think we'll get an Endemaul product. It won't be a carbon copy from 1982, but you can step off the ledge.
*/Technically 24-39
//25-40 sounds better
///One more till I get "Bengo"!
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Signed up for one of the 5-episode taping days, and hope to walk out with $24 or less.
Well, look at it this way: if you get $24 or less, they're clearly doing something right
I usually don't do this, but if you're wondering why people take aim at you Dan, here's a reason: your reply is exactly what Jim was saying. He just didn't spell it out.
-Jason
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I have none. They made at least 2 pilots that looked pretty damn faithful to what Dick Clark hosted 25-40* years ago, and it really sounds like they know what they're doing. I have no reason to believe this version will be too different from the '09 pilot recently linked to. Why are you so scared of New Pyramid? Seriously, you keep going on and on looking for reasons to dislike it. Relax, I don't think we'll get an Endemaul product. It won't be a carbon copy from 1982, but you can step off the ledge.
I think Dan'l is saying that if there's something that goes against his vision and ideology of what Pyramid should look like, one of the audience members should stand up during a break and bellow "Why wasn't there a Mystery Seven bonus during that half?" or whatever thing is missing/added to the proceedings.
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You'll notice he didn't specify "during a break".
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If they tape both front games of an episode first, prep the Winner's Circle celeb with the categories, retape reactions/explanations/whatever for no discernible reason, or have the anal judging of Donnymid...I'd say get out of dodge. (Or at the very least, voice your concerns.)
BINGO!!!
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GSN started airing promos for The Pyramid today (7/31). It shows background shots of the set. From what I saw it looks good.
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On its Facebook page, Buzzerblog also posted an "Access Hollywood" interview. My work computer doesn't have sound, but the set looks great.
One difference that may make the purists cry foul: the front game and Winner's Circle big pyramids are one large screen, not six individual ones. Makes sense from a technological standpoint.
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One difference that may make the purists cry foul:
OMG NO TRILONS I WON'T WATCH WHAAAAAARGAARBL.
Seriously, if that's the biggest thing "wrong" with the show, it's going to be friggin' awesome.
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Seriously, if that's the biggest thing "wrong" with the show, it's going to be friggin' awesome.
Absolutely. My personal belief is that the biggest thing "wrong" about the show is going to be that the people they get won't know how to play it well. Even if they're reasonably smart (as opposed to the kids they got for Chain Reaction) the games won't look as good to those of us more familiar with the polished later runs of the original version.
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Buzzerblog has posted a set report and interview with a couple of celebs.
-Pyramid shaped monitors. Snazzy.
-I like the new tiebreaker format- never thought about doing it that way before.
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-I like the new tiebreaker format- never thought about doing it that way before.
I like it too. I liked the urgency of the 80s tiebreaker, but I think this is also decent.
I'm confused about how the pass rule is different. A word is "out of play" if you pass, but you can come back to it if time remains? Are they treating it like Alphabetics, then, or does the receiver have to guess it with no more help?
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I can only hope the new tiebreaker format doesn't bring back the problem of resuming the show on the next episode. One look at that Sandy Duncan & Nipsey Russell episode from 1978 says it all for me.
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I can only hope the new tiebreaker format doesn't lead to the show resuming on the next episode. One look at that Sandy Duncan & Nipsey Russell episode from 1978 says it all for me.
LOLWUT.
The tiebreaker format is "most in 30 seconds." I don't see any way that you would have spillover games.
/Wouldn't you just edit out the first tiebreaker?
//GSL, this is why people don't think too highly of you.
///twitch, twitch, K-Mart sucks.
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I can only hope the new tiebreaker format doesn't bring back the problem of resuming the show on the next episode.
Some of us don't consider that a "problem."
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Well, one thing's for sure: I'm not gonna throw a fit over the new Pyramid board. I like having everything on one screen.
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Well, one thing's for sure: I'm not gonna throw a fit over the new Pyramid board. I like having everything on one screen.
Praise God for that.
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Absolutely. My personal belief is that the biggest thing "wrong" about the show is going to be that the people they get won't know how to play it well. Even if they're reasonably smart (as opposed to the kids they got for Chain Reaction) the games won't look as good to those of us more familiar with the polished later runs of the original version.
As someone who was the tender age of minus seven when the show debuted, I have this to ask:
How long did it take for the show to go from that phase of blindly groping to figure out the best way to play the game, where 11 could be a winning score, to the days where the game became how often could you get all seven, and scores of 19, 20 or 21 were commonplace enough that a score of 17 wouldn't hold up?
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How long did it take for the show to go from that phase of blindly groping to figure out the best way to play the game, where 11 could be a winning score, to the days where the game became how often could you get all seven, and scores of 19, 20 or 21 were commonplace enough that a score of 17 wouldn't hold up?
It's hard to pick an exact moment, but why should that stop me?
An awfully good "turning point" we could cite is the now-infamous Sandy Duncan/Nipsey Russell slugfest of 6/12/78. Even though that game was only 19-19 after regulation and didn't even feature a lot of sevens in the tiebreakers, it showed how consistent good players could be.
I'm old enough to remember that originally, they didn't make a point of mentioning how many subjects each category contained. You just played for thirty seconds and scored all the points you could. Then one day, somebody got all eight (that's right, eight) and Dick shared with us, almost as an afterthought, that there were only eight subjects in each set. I don't know (somebody probably does) at what precise point they decided that seven would be the number.
Here's a concern I have. Right out of the gate, the star-power of this new version and the typical star-power of the CBS $25K version are pretty much the same. Stewart's "big guns" were frequently supporting actors in middling sitcoms and dramas. Network television was a bigger deal back then, so millions more people knew Mary Cadorette and Teresa Ganzel than who today know Dot Jones or Danny Pudi, but stay with me here. The difference is that Stewart's crowd knew how to play the game, and even casual fans of the show at the time knew that. The first instinct I'm getting is that the celebrities in the new version aren't great game players, they were just vaguely well-known people who were willing to do it. Pyramid doesn't need star power, it needs stars who can play, and I'm concerned this new version will offer neither on a consistent basis.
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As someone who was the tender age of minus seven when the show debuted, I have this to ask:
How long did it take for the show to go from that phase of blindly groping to figure out the best way to play the game, where 11 could be a winning score, to the days where the game became how often could you get all seven, and scores of 19, 20 or 21 were commonplace enough that a score of 17 wouldn't hold up?
Two short answers: (1) They were still "groping" by the end of 1973 when they filmed three weeks of shows in Los Angeles, but the game play had improved by the time the Cullen 25 debuted the following fall. (2) 17 stopped holding up a few months into the CBS 25 run, partly because people were back up to speed, and partly because they used easier material. It was unusual in the L.A. years for an item to appear on two lines; it wasn't unusual in New York. (example of the latter: "keeps the doctor away")
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Here's a concern I have. Right out of the gate, the star-power of this new version and the typical star-power of the CBS $25K version are pretty much the same. Stewart's "big guns" were frequently supporting actors in middling sitcoms and dramas. Network television was a bigger deal back then, so millions more people knew Mary Cadorette and Teresa Ganzel than who today know Dot Jones or Danny Pudi, but stay with me here. The difference is that Stewart's crowd knew how to play the game, and even casual fans of the show at the time knew that. The first instinct I'm getting is that the celebrities in the new version aren't great game players, they were just vaguely well-known people who were willing to do it. Pyramid doesn't need star power, it needs stars who can play, and I'm concerned this new version will offer neither on a consistent basis.
Bingo.
Average America hasn't heard of these D list celebs. If you look at 4 players on a show, and can't figure out who is the celebrity and who is the player, you have a problem.
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Then one day, somebody got all eight (that's right, eight) and Dick shared with us, almost as an afterthought, that there were only eight subjects in each set. I don't know (somebody probably does) at what precise point they decided that seven would be the number.
Someone knowledgeable told me that it was eight in the original CBS run and seven when ABC revived it. (I want to say pyrfan, but I'm sure he'll correct me if it wasn't him.)
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I'm confused about how the pass rule is different. A word is "out of play" if you pass, but you can come back to it if time remains? Are they treating it like Alphabetics, then, or does the receiver have to guess it with no more help?
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I would guess out of play means that in the old version if you passed on the word "salt", moved on to another word and said "salt" it would count; now it would not until you come back around to the word.
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I can only hope the new tiebreaker format doesn't bring back the problem of resuming the show on the next episode. One look at that Sandy Duncan & Nipsey Russell episode from 1978 says it all for me.
I agree with TLEberle that they'll probably edit out multiple tie-breakers. I also agree with clemon79 that I wouldn't consider it a problem if they did have spill-overs.
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I would guess out of play means that in the old version if you passed on the word "salt", moved on to another word and said "salt" it would count; now it would not until you come back around to the word.
I think this is right. If you pass a word, you can't get credit for it until it comes back around.
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Houston, we have video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe2WAgNun-g&feature=g-all-u
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OMG, they're making it for us.
/Well, the promo, anyway.
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The content between 23 and 24 seconds is the most encouraging tidbit I've seen yet.
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The content between 23 and 24 seconds is the most encouraging tidbit I've seen yet.
You mean that bug-eyed contestant?
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You mean that bug-eyed contestant?
Yeah, that's exactly what I mean.
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The content between 23 and 24 seconds is the most encouraging tidbit I've seen yet.
You mean that bug-eyed contestant?
Unless I'm mistaken, that's a celebrity; she looks like someone that was on the H˛ April Fools episode.
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The content between 23 and 24 seconds is the most encouraging tidbit I've seen yet.
You mean that bug-eyed contestant?
You mean that bug-eyed celebrity. That's Yvette Nicole Brown from Community.
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The difference is that Stewart's crowd knew how to play the game, and even casual fans of the show at the time knew that. The first instinct I'm getting is that the celebrities in the new version aren't great game players, they were just vaguely well-known people who were willing to do it. Pyramid doesn't need star power, it needs stars who can play, and I'm concerned this new version will offer neither on a consistent basis.
I'm pretty sure your concern is thanks to Donnymid, where very few "classic Pyramid" celebs turned up. Sure, some of the newbies were good, but others just couldn't grasp it. 'Course, that wasn't helped by the Winner's Circle...
The thing I can see going wrong is if The Pyramid does anything like the Osmond version did: weird taping schedule, briefing the clue-giving celeb on the Winner's Circle categories, cutting back and forth between celeb and player in the WC, using terrible WC categories, and having the supremely-anal judging ("Things in a Toolbox" not being accepted for "Tools"? GTFO).
It was unusual in the L.A. years for an item to appear on two lines; it wasn't unusual in New York. (example of the latter: "keeps the doctor away")
I know they were really groping in the beginning. Watching the opening segment of the third episode (or the entirety of the fifth) is sobering -- sure, it's the first week, but things improved within three months.
And as for long subjects, it was worse in the very beginning, with one category ("Famous Last Words", on the fifth show) using such things as "shall not perish from this earth" and "frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn".
Someone on Game Show Confessions (not me) was surprised (http://gameshow-confessions.tumblr.com/post/25068232264) that Pyramid didn't go out after 13 weeks.
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One thing I noticed: end of the promo has the GSN logo and website. Right between those? "GAME SHOW NETWORK".
This looks frigging awesome. With all this going for it, I'm hoping they don't screw it up (i.e., anything Donnymid did).
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Did anyone else notice that the GSN logo at the end had "GAME SHOW NETWORK" below it?
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There is a pool of good game players from 'Pyramid' a decade ago that this version maybe this version can use. John O'Hurley and Melissa Peterman come to mind. Getting Ed Begley Jr and Betty White may also be possible.
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Did anyone else notice that the GSN logo at the end had "GAME SHOW NETWORK" below it?
I did. The "American Bible Challenge' promos have the same thing.
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The promo looks very promising...the more previews I see from this show, the more intrigued I'm becoming.
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Can I request a merging of this thread and one/some in the GSN board? It's kind of awkward having to bounce back and forth for the same discussion.
ETA: Thank you.
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Based on the promo video I saw, I like how the top of the Winner's Circle Pyramid will display the amount being played for.
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Everything that I saw in the promo, I liked. I am looking forward to hearing "Tuning Up" blaring again on a game show set!! I hope the show is as good as we want it to be, and then some. Now, waiting on September 3rd to get here....
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Based on the promo video I saw, I like how the top of the Winner's Circle Pyramid will display the amount being played for.
I'm pretty sure this was back in the ATGS days, but I remember someone suggesting that a future version of the show (this was pre-Donnymid) should do just that. I like how it looks too.
I think the only thing that looks weird to me is the inner triangle inside the center stage pyramids. A very minor thing, but it just looks a little odd.
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One little thing that worries me: We hear Mike saying, "For $15,000." If I were making the promo, my preference would be to hear him saying $20,000 or $25,000. I hope this doesn't mean that the game play is that poor, that they hadn't even had one attempt for the higher figure.
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One little thing that worries me: We hear Mike saying, "For $15,000." If I were making the promo, my preference would be to hear him saying $20,000 or $25,000.
Are you less likely to watch the show as a result?
Do you think the average person might be less likely to watch the show as a result?
Seriously. Let's all try not to over-analyze this, ok?
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An awfully good "turning point" we could cite is the now-infamous Sandy Duncan/Nipsey Russell slugfest of 6/12/78. Even though that game was only 19-19 after regulation and didn't even feature a lot of sevens in the tiebreakers, it showed how consistent good players could be.
Whether we go with the nighttime version, or five years in, that tells us how long it took for there to be good consistent play. What I'm saying is that if you go in expecting there to be perfect play you're going to be disappointed, and it will take that same time to feel the game out again and get back to that plateau of competency. Give the show time to grow and be awesome, and if it works eventually we'll get back to that point.
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And don't forget there were plenty of celebrities that played the game poorly all throughout even the 80s version. The trick is to not invite those people to play again.
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The thing I can see going wrong is if The Pyramid does anything like the Osmond version did: weird taping schedule, briefing the clue-giving celeb on the Winner's Circle categories, cutting back and forth between celeb and player in the WC, using terrible WC categories, and having the supremely-anal judging ("Things in a Toolbox" not being accepted for "Tools"? GTFO).
In order:
-No biggie/no one will notice or care
-Agreed
-Agreed
-Would be nice, but won't ruin the show
-Agreed
1 and 4 really won't hurt the show, and from all the reports made, you prolly won't have to worry about the other three. So honestly, there's a 40% chance of anything offensive, and that 40% is nothing to worry about.
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"The Pyramid" looks good! It's good to see them following the roots of old school Pyramid and ignoring the Millionaire look from 2002.
When I first saw the picture of Mike Richards on the set, the one posted on Buzzerblog on July 12th, I thought it looked like part of the set from "Super Password." Maybe it's just me? Overall, I'm looking forward to hearing that wonderful 80's theme along with the original sounds. Hope we get to hear the cuckoo, too :)
As Dan pointed out, I too noticed GSN displayed their full name on the bottom of their logo at the end of the video. Perhaps they are phasing the words back on air for a new logo? The CW11 in New York did a similar logo transition when they went back to calling themselves WPIX aka PIX11.
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Someone on Game Show Confessions (not me) was surprised (http://gameshow-confessions.tumblr.com/post/25068232264) that Pyramid didn't go out after 13 weeks.
Lolwut. A "feast or famine" bonus round. Isn't that what they're supposed to be?
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Wonder if they're still going to coach the celebrities before the Winners Circle (or is it thankfully gone)?
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When I first saw the picture of Mike Richards on the set, the one posted on Buzzerblog on July 12th, I thought it looked like part of the set from "Super Password." Maybe it's just me? Overall, I'm looking forward to hearing that wonderful 80's theme along with the original sounds. Hope we get to hear the cuckoo, too :)
Not just you...when I saw the pic of the warm-up guy, I immediately said the same thing. :-)
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One thing that I think is worth considering is treating the show in the same way as a movie. When you see a new version of Batman or Star Trek or Total Recall, you're seeing the new vision of what the director thinks it should be. Sure, there will be people who say the original was great or better than the new, but so what. Judge the show on its own and let it stand by itself. After all, there were probably some viewers in 1982 who saw the new version and had some of those same questions.
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After all, there were probably some viewers in 1982 who saw the new version and had some of those same questions.
Funny you mention that. I got to wondering today after reading this thread, what it would have been like had this forum existed in 1982...There would have been outcries of "they got rid of the solari readouts and replaced them with LEDs all across the board!"...
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Wish I had some "inside" information, but the audience ticketing website hates me.
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After all, there were probably some viewers in 1982 who saw the new version and had some of those same questions.
Funny you mention that. I got to wondering today after reading this thread, what it would have been like had this forum existed in 1982...There would have been outcries of "they got rid of the solari readouts and replaced them with LEDs all across the board!"...
Those viewers might have had some questions, but with Dick Clark still at the helm there really wasn't too much complaining to be done.
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One little thing that worries me: We hear Mike saying, "For $15,000." If I were making the promo, my preference would be to hear him saying $20,000 or $25,000.
Are you less likely to watch the show as a result?
Do you think the average person might be less likely to watch the show as a result?
number of people who would be more likely to watch because they hear "twenty" rather than "fifteen": small but non-zero
number of people who would be less likely: zero
My point is only that you'd think they'd use such a sound bite if they had it. In fact, if I wanted to play up the variable bank, I'd edit it so you hear him say, "For ten ... fifteen ... twenty thousand dollars."
Unrelated to that, my favorite specific thing in the ad is the shot of the celebrity preparing to receive the clues.
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My point is only that you'd think they'd use such a sound bite if they had it. In fact, if I wanted to play up the variable bank, I'd edit it so you hear him say, "For ten ... fifteen ... twenty thousand dollars."
I'm pretty sure the promo is cobbled together from the pilots, so they don't have a ton to work with. And think about this: 19, a highly respectable score, can still only get you playing for $15,000 in the bonus. It's really not a big thing.
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number of people who would be more likely to watch because they hear "twenty" rather than "fifteen": small but non-zero
number of people who would be less likely: zero
And by "small" you mean "utterly statistically insignificant." As in, "not even worth the extra ten minutes of production time necessary to find such a clip."
My point is only that you'd think they'd use such a sound bite if they had it.
My point is that it really, REALLY doesn't matter as much as you seem to think it does.
In fact, if I wanted to play up the variable bank
Clearly they don't. In fact, the theme I got out of that promo was "It's the Pyramid, bitches." Which is exactly as it should be. The game sells itself.
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The thing I can see going wrong is if The Pyramid does anything like the Osmond version did: weird taping schedule
What the hell does this have to do with anything?
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Who is the announcer of this version? I know some episodes have been taped to figure this info.
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Average America hasn't heard of these D list celebs. If you look at 4 players on a show, and can't figure out who is the celebrity and who is the player, you have a problem.
Game-centric person that I am, I have less of a problem with not being able to identify the celebrity, so long as everybody involved is able to play the game competently. I've been watching the "Figure It Out" revival a lot -- I don't know who any of the celebrities are, but I've already been able to pick out ones I'd like to see return if there's another season. I can see the same thing happening with this show -- "I hadn't heard of this person before, but wow, they're really good at this game. I look forward to seeing them on a future show, regardless of their celebrity status."
Another way to make sure we know who the celebrity is would be to do like the original version did and always have the celebrity sitting camera left.
Having been in the audience for the pilots, and after seeing the above promo (which does appear to largely consist of footage from the pilots), here's my impression: GSN has been running episodes (and mini-marathons) of classic "Pyramid" for a long time -- long enough that even non-hardcore fans have some understanding of the game's intangibles. If a network is planning to mount a revival of a series it's been airing a lot -- a series that will likely still be rerun while the revival is also airing -- it would be a good idea to remain faithful to the original. Not a carbon-copy, of course, since you want the new version to be identifiable as being made in this decade, but play everything close enough so your audience (which apparently has made it one of the more popular classic series on the network) won't tune away because the new version is too different.
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The thing I can see going wrong is if The Pyramid does anything like the Osmond version did: weird taping schedule
What the hell does this have to do with anything?
According to someone on either ATGS (when it was good) or here, the Osmond version would do the front games all at once followed by all the Winner's Circle rounds. And I distinctly remember reading that it took hours for a single taping session and the warmup guy sucked.
Not like they showed the audience on-camera, anyway...
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I remember hearing that too. When GSN ran Donnymid in the $25K spot for a couple weeks earlier this year, I noticed something that I missed originally. Most of the time, in the second game, it appeared that Donny's job was added in post, which makes sense if they didn't know what happened in the Winner's Circle at the time they played the second game.
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The thing I can see going wrong is if The Pyramid does anything like the Osmond version did: weird taping schedule
What the hell does this have to do with anything?
According to someone on either ATGS (when it was good) or here, the Osmond version would the front games all at once followed by the Winner's Circle rounds. And I distinctly remember reading that it took hours for a single taping session and the warmup guy sucked.
Not like they showed the audience on-camera, anyway...
If "Donnymid" was being discussed, ATGS was nowhere near good. The mass migration away was right after the show premiered.
That being said, that fact sounds familiar. But again, you keep cowering in fear that "New Pyramid" is going to suck, despite the fact that more and more things show otherwise.
/I did see the "Donnymid" audience once
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I saw the audience several times on donnymid. Usually it was right before the winners circle round began, as the contestant told Donny who he/she brought with them to the show.
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I'm also wondering if we're going to see the anal-retentive judging that plagued Donnymid. Hope there's not going to be more "Nuh uh...that said 'THINGS A PICKUP TRUCK WOULD SAY' and you only said 'WHAT A TRUCK SAYS' "
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Talking about the D-list celebs, I can rattle off several names of celebrities who appeared on earlier Pyramid versions - and the only reason I know their names is because they were on Pyramid. Perhaps names like Shelley Smith and Brian Mitchell were better known in their respective decades for something other than Pyramid, I don't know.
Just a thought.
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Access Hollywood (http://"http://watch.accesshollywood.com/tv/mike-richards-explains-bringing-back-the-pyramid/1764441849001") now has a couple of video interviews from the set, one with Mike Richards and another (under "related videos") of Community's Yvette Nicole Brown and Danny Pudi (VERY excited to see them as celebs!).
Honestly--and I am far from a TPiR fanboi, and actually enjoy his production of LMaD--Richards comes off as off-putting in the video, like he's only pretending to be happy and excited. Maybe it's just me, though...
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and actually enjoy his production of LMaD
Hey guys! We found the one!
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Man, is that floor shiny!
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Talking about the D-list celebs, I can rattle off several names of celebrities who appeared on earlier Pyramid versions - and the only reason I know their names is because they were on Pyramid. Perhaps names like Shelley Smith and Brian Mitchell were better known in their respective decades for something other than Pyramid, I don't know.
Just a thought.
Brian Mitchell was on Trapper John M.D. and Shelly Smith was on a short-lived early '80s sitcom called The Associates, which also starred Martin Short and Wilfrid Hyde-White.
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Talking about the D-list celebs, I can rattle off several names of celebrities who appeared on earlier Pyramid versions - and the only reason I know their names is because they were on Pyramid. Perhaps names like Shelley Smith and Brian Mitchell were better known in their respective decades for something other than Pyramid, I don't know.
Just a thought.
and Shelly Smith was on a short-lived early '80s sitcom called The Associates, which also starred Martin Short and Wilfrid Hyde-White.
I believe that was Mitch's point.
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On a repeat that aired recently on GSN, Henry Polic noted that people were recognizing him on the street... but not for his theater work or for Webster, but for Pyramid. I think that says a lot about Pyramid's 1980s regulars.
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I think that says a lot about Webster.
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Funny thing was that I watched Webster a lot as a kid...I never remember seeing Henry Polic II at all.
(is Webster even airing anywhere anymore?)
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I think Henry was more of a recurring guest star on Webster than a regular cast member.
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and Shelly Smith was on a short-lived early '80s sitcom called The Associates, which also starred Martin Short and Wilfrid Hyde-White.
I believe that was Mitch's point.
Yes, this was my point exactly.
Further, didn't Trapper John M.D. also have so-and-so as the main star, and he was on Pyramid too and was pretty good?
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Further, didn't Trapper John M.D. also have so-and-so as the main star, and he was on Pyramid too and was pretty good?
You're thinking of Charlie Siebert (though he wasn't the main star of Trapper John...that was Pernell Roberts)
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I think Henry was more of a recurring guest star on Webster than a regular cast member.
And? Jane Lynch was a recurring guest star on Two and a Half Men before she went on Glee and I can remember seeing her a lot more than I ever saw Henry Polic II on Webster.
Admittedly, it's been about 15 years since I've seen an episode of Webster but my point is that recurring guest stars don't necessarily fade away.
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I think Henry was more of a recurring guest star on Webster than a regular cast member.
And? Jane Lynch was a recurring guest star on Two and a Half Men before she went on Glee and I can remember seeing her a lot more than I ever saw Henry Polic II on Webster.
Admittedly, it's been about 15 years since I've seen an episode of Webster but my point is that recurring guest stars don't necessarily fade away.
Polic was a regular on Webster's first season (even credited in the main title) but after that, his appearances were much more sporadic-- usually only two or three a season.
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And? Jane Lynch was a recurring guest star on Two and a Half Men before she went on Glee and I can remember seeing her a lot more than I ever saw Henry Polic II on Webster.
What's funny is that I was considering getting all adversarial about this, considering the source, but then I actually did the research.
According to IMDB (yeah, yeah), HP2 appeared on 54 episodes of the 150 episodes produced. That's pretty much the textbook definition of a recurring character.
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And? Jane Lynch was a recurring guest star on Two and a Half Men before she went on Glee and I can remember seeing her a lot more than I ever saw Henry Polic II on Webster.
What's funny is that I was considering getting all adversarial about this, considering the source, but then I actually did the research.
According to IMDB (yeah, yeah), HP2 appeared on 54 episodes of the 150 episodes produced. That's pretty much the textbook definition of a recurring character.
I don't think anybody's arguing whether or not he was a recurring character...my point, again, is that some are more memorable than others.
Hell, I watched Diff'rent Strokes every day for about five or six years when I was little and I didn't even know that there were two other maids after Mrs. Garrett until years later when I started watching the reruns again. (only one of those, technically, can be considered recurring I think)
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-I like the new tiebreaker format- never thought about doing it that way before.
I was thinking about this. I don't dislike the idea as a viewer, but I find it a little surprising. The old tie-breaker takes less time, which to a cost-conscious producer is an objectively good thing.
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I believe The Pyramid will have the biggest ratings in the history of GSN. Has any GSN original show gotten over a 1.0 rating?
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-I like the new tiebreaker format- never thought about doing it that way before.
I was thinking about this. I don't dislike the idea as a viewer, but I find it a little surprising. The old tie-breaker takes less time, which to a cost-conscious producer is an objectively good thing.
The new tiebreaker format also means more work for the writers. I figure they had to come up with about 15 words for each letter in case a team is really good.
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Hell, I watched Diff'rent Strokes every day for about five or six years when I was little and I didn't even know that there were two other maids after Mrs. Garrett until years later when I started watching the reruns again. (only one of those, technically, can be considered recurring I think)
I, too, was a DS fan when I was a child and you would be right. Nedra Volz (Adelaide) was the housekeeper for half of season 2 and all of season 3 and 4, however, I don't remember seeing her a whole lot and she never got billing in the opening credits. Mary Jo Catlett (Pearl) was the housekeeper for the rest of the run (seasons 5-8) and got billing in the opening credits from season 6 on. Had to YouTube the opening credits as I wasn't sure about ol' Pearl...
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-I like the new tiebreaker format- never thought about doing it that way before.
I was thinking about this. I don't dislike the idea as a viewer, but I find it a little surprising. The old tie-breaker takes less time, which to a cost-conscious producer is an objectively good thing.
I think it's only really going to take a substantial amount of additional studio time if they need multiple rounds of tiebreakers. It's certainly possible for that to happen, but I'd guess that it's somewhat less likely under this format than it was with the '70s tiebreaker format because it allows good teams to rack up 8+ points.
They could always take Old Man Stewart's approach and show all of the tiebreakers that end in ties so that they aren't wasting studio time on things that won't air, but since the show is one-and-done, that wouldn't be terribly fair once they ran out of time for the second game.
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-I like the new tiebreaker format- never thought about doing it that way before.
I was thinking about this. I don't dislike the idea as a viewer, but I find it a little surprising. The old tie-breaker takes less time, which to a cost-conscious producer is an objectively good thing.
The new tiebreaker format also means more work for the writers. I figure they had to come up with about 15 words for each letter in case a team is really good.
This makes me wonder when the different categories were put together, because that's (by your quite reasonable estimate) 30 words they won't want to use again for a while if they're used.
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-I like the new tiebreaker format- never thought about doing it that way before.
I was thinking about this. I don't dislike the idea as a viewer, but I find it a little surprising. The old tie-breaker takes less time, which to a cost-conscious producer is an objectively good thing.
The new tiebreaker format also means more work for the writers. I figure they had to come up with about 15 words for each letter in case a team is really good.
One of the things I hope they do is throw in marginally tougher words after the first 5 or so...because what's really going to keep a giver from passing on a couple words that may take longer to get?
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Easy fix: a pass/cuckoo either ends your round, costs you a point or costs you five seconds.
Fifteen words. R L Y.
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Easy fix: a pass/cuckoo either ends your round, costs you a point or costs you five seconds
I think a quicker version of this that isn't such a drastic change midstream would be to not allow passing in the tiebreaker. Under the assumption this is the tiebreaker we have to live with, that change would help prevent multiple tiebreakers by throwing some strategic "stumper" words in one or both of the stacks at opportune moments.
-Jason
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Easy fix: a pass/cuckoo either ends your round, costs you a point or costs you five seconds
I think a quicker version of this that isn't such a drastic change midstream would be to not allow passing in the tiebreaker. Under the assumption this is the tiebreaker we have to live with, that change would help prevent multiple tiebreakers by throwing some strategic "stumper" words in one or both of the stacks at opportune moments.
Then I just read aloud "quadratic" and move along to "quiet."
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Then let's double back and throw out the new tiebreaker. :) Actually, so long as the writing is okay, the pass/cuckoo workaround shouldn't hinder things too much. They should be mindful of that potential flaw and try not to throw too many intimidating-looking words in the mix.
-Jason
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I think a quicker version of this that isn't such a drastic change midstream would be to not allow passing in the tiebreaker.
Except watching a team get stuck, REALLY stuck, on a word is painful television.
that change would help prevent multiple tiebreakers by throwing some strategic "stumper" words in one or both of the stacks at opportune moments.
That's as bad as the Grand Slam contestants getting screwed with a spelling question at an "opportune" moment.
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And heeeeeeeeere's a partial list of celebs:
http://buzzerblog.com/2012/08/gsn-pyramid-celebs/
No one who really offends me/strikes me as being particularly dumb or annoying, even though I am not a Glee fan...actually I don't watch that much network TV so someone may know better. Hopefully some throwback names will appear from time to time (not cause I want things Just Like They Were, it would be nice in general...) Bettymania has died down a little, but having Ms. White back might spike some interest in the new series.
/Did Betty play any of the '70s incarnations or Davidson?
//Cause it would give her another decade streak under her belt.
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Betty White, as far as I know, never did Pyramid in the 70's. Her first appearance on the show was on the 4th week of The New $25,000 Pyramid with Charlie Siebert (October 11-15, 1982)
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She did play in the 90s.
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Bettymania has died down a little, but having Ms. White back might spike some interest in the new series.
Betty White is still sharp and witty, but a rapid-fire communication game with 30-second rounds does not play to the strengths of any 90-year-old.
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Betty White is still sharp and witty, but a rapid-fire communication game with 30-second rounds does not play to the strengths of any 90-year-old.
How was she on $1,000,000 Password?
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Betty White is still sharp and witty, but a rapid-fire communication game with 30-second rounds does not play to the strengths of any 90-year-old.
How was she on $1,000,000 Password?
She was better on her first appearance, as I recall. Though that may not have been all her fault (it takes two to tango, after all...) Seeing as MDP was basically a Pyramid without the Pyramid, I don't know if it would be too much for her...then again, it HAS been 5 years...
I see they're taking some talent from Fox's Tuesday lineup...gives me hope to see someone from Raising Hope appear one day.
/Hey, I like that show...
//Since it's a black sheep among the Fox roster, it seems, appearing on TP could do a little to boost awareness of both shows.
///Cloris vs. Betty, anyone? ;-)
////That was one of my favorite MTM episodes...
/////...not to mention my favorite part to You Again
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Another thought: I had an idea for TP's future…to give incentive to a contestant who already made it to the WC once, maybe they could double their potential jackpot for the WC? (Someone who won one game, instead of starting at $10K and $5000 per perfect round, could start with $20K and add $10K per perfect bonus, bringing the top prizes back to the 2009 $25K and $50K) But I know the show is just restarting, so I can see how they’d think small at first.
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maybe they could double their potential jackpot for the WC?
Are you familiar with Bob Stewart's past work, or with the budget of a niche cable channel?
Be happy the payouts are what they are.
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Know what my incentive to play well would be? Twenty-five thousand damn dollars.
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maybe they could double their potential jackpot for the WC?
Are you familiar with Bob Stewart's past work, or with the budget of a niche cable channel?
Be happy the payouts are what they are.
It was just an idea. I agree, though...$25K (possibly x2) ain't hay. I just thought my proposal would go along with the "If you get up here the second time..." increased stakes of the '80s+ (and Cullen's) second WC. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't complaining about things they way they are.
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I just now had a bizarre thought: this is the first version of the show where a contestant can play for less money in the second half than was on offer in the first.
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Hopefully some throwback names will appear from time to time (not cause I want things Just Like They Were, it would be nice in general...) Bettymania has died down a little, but having Ms. White back might spike some interest in the new series.
When this was announced, I tried to think of anyone who was 1. at least an occasional player in a past version, 2. still famous enough to count as a celebrity, and 3. potentially willing to do one more week of Pyramid on a digital-tier cable network for old time's sake.
I got a very short list.
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I just now had a bizarre thought: this is the first version of the show where a contestant can play for less money in the second half than was on offer in the first.
It is indeed the first time that you could see the same contestant play for less money the second time than he did in the first. (I'd composed the rest of the post before I realized that you were making a statement rather than asking a question.)
There have been a few scenarios where a different player would play for less in Game 2 than in Game 1:
1. On the 20K, it was quite common to see a $15/20K attempt in Game 1 and a $10K attempt in Game 2. (You could even extend this to the $5,000 rounds they played when the last game of the week was a tie.)
2. On the 100K, if the titular prize was won in Game 1, the other two players had a filler game for a possible $10,000.
3. In the last celebrity edition on the CBS 25K, teams from four soap operas played one game per day. The only way to play for $25,000 was to win a 21-21 tie. I don't know the outcomes of all the games, but that means it was certainly possible to see a $25K attempt in Game 1 and a $10K attempt in Game 2.
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The only way to play for $25,000 was to win a 21-21 tie? Who came up with that?
(I remembered the $20,000 Pyramid could become the $10,000 Pyramid in the second half, but the contestant who won the money was off the show; that's mainly what I was getting at. And well done to remember the $100,000 tournaments as well.)
The big question: is it going to look anticlimactic to have someone win $25,000 in the first half, and either he goes back for another $10,000, or the opponent for less?
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Let's just say that if Mike Richards can keep it from feeling that way, it will mean that Dick taught him well.
It would be worse if they did have defending champions, assuming that the $500 bonuses counted. Then you could make a $25,000 attempt knowing that your opponent's coming back without you no matter what.
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It would be worse if they did have defending champions, assuming that the $500 bonuses counted. Then you could make a $25,000 attempt knowing that your opponent's coming back without you no matter what.
How would that work?
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Game 1: TEberle defeats Jay Temple, 21-19 (7-6-6) and wins. Winnings so far: TEberle, $26,500; Jay Temple, $500.
Game 2: Jay Temple defeats TEberle, 21-20 (7-7-6).
winnings going into the 2nd WC: TEberle, $27,500 Jay Temple $2,000
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For one, feel free to use my given name that appears at the bottom of all the posts I make to this board. Twice, even.
For two: I forgot that the bonus money can be won by both sides. But that's the thing. Do you treat it as bonus money or not? If no then you have prepared the very bear trap that you're about to walk into.
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It would be worse if they did have defending champions, assuming that the $500 bonuses counted. Then you could make a $25,000 attempt knowing that your opponent's coming back without you no matter what.
One would think that winning TWENTY-FIVE-THOUSAND DAMN DOLLARS is its own reward.
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I hope that's the exact verbiage they use for the Winner's Circle.
"For TWENTY-FIVE-THOUSAND DAMN DOLLARS, here is your first subject..."
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I think calling it THE TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND DAMN DOLLAR PYRAMID might be worth, oh, an additional .2 of a ratings point.
Then again, it didn't work for THE BEST DAMN SPORTS SHOW PERIOD. Which sounds about the same.
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Speaking of people they could bring back from earlier versions, John Salley didn't fare too badly. (I thought of this because in one of his appearances, a category was called THE BEST DAMN GAME SHOW PYRAMID. It was things that make the Pyramid great.)
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Speaking of people they could bring back from earlier versions, John Salley didn't fare too badly. (I thought of this because in one of his appearances, a category was called THE BEST DAMN GAME SHOW PYRAMID. It was things that make the Pyramid great.)
That's better than "Reasons why we love Estelle Harris so darn much," but only because that is an *incredibly* low bar to cross.
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Buzzerblog just posted this clip (http://"http://buzzerblog.com/2012/08/video-gsn-previews-a-round-of-the-pyramid/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=video-gsn-previews-a-round-of-the-pyramid") of game play.
I could live without the flute clock in the main game, but I'd rather have it in both parts of the game than neither!
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I could live without the flute clock in the main game, but I'd rather have it in both parts of the game than neither!
Here's the kicker...that's not quite the same flute clock, they updated it. Which I am WAY fine with.
Honestly, if they want to treat that clock with the same reverence that Australia treats the SoTC buzzer, I am totally content to let them.
Just from that bit it sounds like Richards is engaging himself with the game, as well, which strikes me as a good sign.
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Incidentally, anyone know if this clip exists anywhere else online aside from Buzzerblog?
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Incidentally, anyone know if this clip exists anywhere else online aside from Buzzerblog?
The clip is on gsntv.com
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The clip is on gsntv.com
I'd love to know where, because the only Pyramid clip I see there is the 30-second promo.
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The classic clock survives in the WC.
-Jason
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It looks like the clock sound in the main game is what the '09 pilot used in the WC. If they use that one in the main game, and the more intense flute clock in the WC, that'll be a Damn Good Call.
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The clip is on gsntv.com
I'd love to know where, because the only Pyramid clip I see there is the 30-second promo.
It was there earlier today, because that's how I had to view it on my iPad. It was located here GSN Pyramid (http://"http://gsntv.com/shows/the-pyramid/videos/") earlier, but it appears to have been removed.
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Here it is from the YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dO8qgi2CT8
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Ah, excellent, thanks much!
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I am strongly thinking about moving up another cable tier for the duration of the show.
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If you do, be sure to tell your TV provider your reason. Sending a message to GSN wouldn't hurt, either.
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The players' monitor looks almost as big as the ones they had in New York!
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The players' monitor looks almost as big as the ones they had in New York!
Wonder what they're using for a display (tablet, maybe)?
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I expect it is a tablet of some sort, but not necessarily a very large one: note that there's a big mask around it (to shield glare from studio lights, I imagine).
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It looks like everything's above table height, too, which probably makes it look taller than it would have if it was in a cutout in the desk like the 70s/80s monitors.
/A commercial... Snooki... A miniskirt...
//Things that are short?
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I know this is ridiculously nitpicky, but I wish the chyron had an outline around the text; it's a little bit hard to read against the yellow background.
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Interesting...I noticed the back shadow, but didn't think it was too bad. I see what you mean though.
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/A commercial... Snooki... A miniskirt...
//Things that are short?
Gotta be.
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I expect it is a tablet of some sort, but not necessarily a very large one: note that there's a big mask around it (to shield glare from studio lights, I imagine).
I doubt it's that complicated...small LCD monitors (such as this one (http://"http://www.amazon.com/MIMO-UM-710S-Powered-Swivel-Display/dp/B002RMPASG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1344964859"), though I bet if I checked Happ Controls or one of the other arcade electronics companies I'd find other, more industrial options) are available for far cheaper than you would pay for a tablet, which you'd need to write an interface for.
/hmm. I can think of a few uses for one of those, at that price. Ponderous.
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/A commercial... Snooki... A miniskirt...
//Things that are short?
Gotta be.
A miniskirt isn't annoying, so that can't be it.
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I know this is ridiculously nitpicky, but I wish the chyron had an outline around the text; it's a little bit hard to read against the yellow background.
Interesting...I noticed the back shadow, but didn't think it was too bad. I see what you mean though.
Same here. If memory serves, the very first shows had black lettering. Even that would be an improvement.
\I recall having a difficult time reading some of the words on MDP, so font choices do matter.
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I know this is ridiculously nitpicky, but I wish the chyron had an outline around the text; it's a little bit hard to read against the yellow background.
Interesting...I noticed the back shadow, but didn't think it was too bad. I see what you mean though.
Same here. If memory serves, the very first shows had black lettering. Even that would be an improvement.
\I recall having a difficult time reading some of the words on MDP, so font choices do matter.
I was able to read them OK, myself...
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GSN put out a Press Release yesterday with a celebrity list. Recognize about a third of the names, myself:
GSN ANNOUNCES LINE-UP OF CELEBRITY GUESTS FOR THE PYRAMID PREMIERING MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 3
Santa Monica, CA – August 14, 2012 – Bringing star power to its fast-paced word guessing game, GSN (formerly Game Show Network) announced today a stellar lineup of celebrity guests for THE PYRAMID. The daily strip show will air Monday through Friday at 6 pm ET, and will premiere on Monday, September 3 at 6 pm ET. "Community" stars Yvette Nicole Brown and Danny Pudi will be featured in the premiere week.
A contemporary take on one of television's most beloved game shows, THE PYRAMID brings back the classic game show format: the celebrities, the Pyramid game board, the Winner's Circle—everything viewers know and love about the iconic format is returning in GSN's lively new version. In keeping with the classic format, each celebrity pair will appear for a full week. THE PYRAMID is hosted by producer and TV personality Mike Richards ("Beauty and the Geek").
The lineup of celebrities who will appear on THE PYRAMID this fall include:
Yvette Nicole Brown (Community)
Kate Flannery (The Office)
Samantha Harris (Host, Stars Earn Stripes and Dancing with the Stars)
Dot Marie Jones (Glee)
Wallace Langham (CSI)
Joshua Malina (Scandal)
Lamorne Morris (New Girl)
Oscar Nunez (The Office)
Jim O'Heir (Parks and Recreation)
Melissa Peterman (Baby Daddy)
Megyn Price (Rules of Engagement)
Danny Pudi (Community)
Jai Rodriguez (Malibu Country and Queer Eye for the Straight Guy)
Aida Turturro (The Sopranos)
Nick Turturro (Blue Bloods)
Chandra Wilson (Grey's Anatomy)
THE PYRAMID is produced by Embassy Row in association with Sony Pictures Television with Michael Davies and Maureen FitzPatrick as executive producers. In addition to "The Newlywed Game" and "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire," Davies has brought audiences fan-favorite shows such as "Power of 10," Bravo's "Watch What Happens Live" and "Kathy," Oxygen's "The Glee Project" and the GSN original "Chain Reaction." Maureen FitzPatrick has been a producer on "Donny & Marie" and "Whose Line Is It Anyway?"
About GSN
GSN is a multimedia entertainment company that offers original and classic game programming and competitive entertainment via its 75-million subscriber television network and online game sites. GSN's cross-platform content gives game lovers the opportunity to win cash and prizes, whether through GSN's popular TV game shows or through GSN Digital's free casual games, mobile and social games, and cash competitions. GSN is distributed throughout the U.S., Caribbean and Canada by all major cable operators, satellite providers and telcos. GSN and its subsidiary, WorldWinner.com, Inc., are owned by DIRECTV and Sony Pictures Entertainment. For further information, visit GSN at www.gsntv.com (http://"http://www.gsntv.com/").
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Five. I count five people from that lot that I've heard of.
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Pretty nice list given the network. I found about 10 that I could actually identify or place a face with.
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Pretty nice list given the network. I found about 10 that I could actually identify or place a face with.
If I were more inclined to watch prime-time television, I could probably get to ten. Alas, I'm not so I didn't.
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Pretty nice list given the network. I found about 10 that I could actually identify or place a face with.
If I were more inclined to watch prime-time television, I could probably get to ten. Alas, I'm not so I didn't.
I actually don't watch that much myself (though I've heard nothing but good things about "Community"). It's just I recognize more than a few names from various projects (Wallace Langham from "Larry Sanders", for example)...
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(Wallace Langham from "Larry Sanders", for example)
Joshua Malina from Sports Night and West Wing, for example. I don't even know what "Scandal" is.
As I said before, the star wattage isn't the issue. Most of these are no different from Teresa Ganzel and Charlie Siebert. The difference is that those two and others in Bob Stewart's quasi-famous stable could play the game. If this bunch can play, then I don't have any problem at all. If they can't, and it turns out that these really are just the biggest celebrities GSN could come up with, then I'm less thrilled.
/Make no mistake, however. I'm still thrilled.
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Joshua Malina from Sports Night and West Wing, for example. I don't even know what "Scandal" is.
It's a new ABC show he's on, and it apparently hasn't found much of an audience yet. (He tweets about it with some regularity.) Also, he said he had a blast at the taping.
West Wing is sadly old news, and Sports Night even older. He's gotta plug what's fresh, I imagine.
/Malina-adjacently: I was talking with a friend about Sorkin the other day; I asked what he thought of Newsroom. He said he'd only seen the pilot, but, "I liked that show better when it was called Sports Night." Dude needs to be a critic. And never review anything I write.
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Scandal is a new ABC show about a political (sex?) scandal (like THAT would ever happen in real life!)...premiered earlier this year, Kerry Washington stars. It's one of those ongoing saga type shows that's become popular since 24 premiered, but aren't primetime soaps...I have a few friends who say it's quite intense.
As for The Newsroom, I've heard mixed reviews from both extremes...no middle ground. I thought Studio 60 had potential, but I've said before I thought it was like reading a Variety article: loaded with too much TV jargon that even lost me as someone who worked in the industry. Plus, the characters all seemed to be married to their jobs, and after awhile, working in TV is just like any other day at the office. Whether or not Newsroom remedies that, I dunno...
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Five. I count five people from that lot that I've heard of.
Okay, this comes off as a bit of a complaint. Which when followed up with...
If I were more inclined to watch prime-time television, I could probably get to ten. Alas, I'm not so I didn't.
...kinda invalidates the complaint. It's roughly equivalent to "I hate hockey because I don't know any of the players." "Well, have you tried watching any so you can learn about them?" "Hells no, why would I watch something I hate?"
I went 10-for-16, myself, but what Matt said. If they can play the game I don't care if their biggest credit is playing Junkie #2 on CSI: Wichita.
Whether or not Newsroom remedies that, I dunno...
I think it's brilliant, but then again I like Sorkin. Which, really, is how Sorkin works. If you like the formula, you'll like the show. If you don't, you won't.
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Five. I count five people from that lot that I've heard of.
Okay, this comes off as a bit of a complaint. Which when followed up with...
If I were more inclined to watch prime-time television, I could probably get to ten. Alas, I'm not so I didn't.
...kinda invalidates the complaint. It's roughly equivalent to "I hate hockey because I don't know any of the players." "Well, have you tried watching any so you can learn about them?" "Hells no, why would I watch something I hate?"
Just noting the number of people that I'd heard of, is all. I cannot praise or condemn something I haven't seen (and I do intend to make it so I see The Pyramid), so all I'm saying is "of that list of people, I've heard of five.
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I'm hoping these celebs aren't total duds, if they can play the game well enough then they're okay in my book.
Would've been nice to get at least one or two classic Pyramid vets even if they ain't doing anything recent...
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Would've been nice to get at least one or two classic Pyramid vets even if they ain't doing anything recent...
Even someone like Levar Burton, who just relaunched Reading Rainbow (as an app), would still have something to plug. But more than likely, they're not going to old names, especially if some of these new celebs end up becoming fairly good players in their own right.
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I'm hoping these celebs aren't total duds, if they can play the game well enough then they're okay in my book.
Would've been nice to get at least one or two classic Pyramid vets even if they ain't doing anything recent...
I agree (X gets the square). Looking forward to September 3rd at 6 pm EST.
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If "Pyramid" really takes off, might we see it make the leap from cable to first-run syndication?
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If "Pyramid" really takes off, might we see it make the leap from cable to first-run syndication?
Getting the cart before the horse, but Baggage is going into syndication, so never say never.
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If "Pyramid" really takes off, might we see it make the leap from cable to first-run syndication?
Honestly, I'm a little surprised GSN never tested the syndication waters before Baggage, even if with reruns. Lingo, for example, not only pulled an audience when Chuck hosted, but it also had more than enough episodes. I'd like to think that syndication would've allowed it to get a larger audience, but who knows?
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Well, I see on my DVR that beginning Monday, September 3rd, at 3:00 PM Pacific, reruns of Donny Osmond's "Pyramid" are coming to GSN.
Does Tribune Media Services look at the GSN schedule releases and stop reading after the first two words, or what?
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And as per Buzzerblog, we got a sneak peak this Thursday at 10PM.
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Well, I see on my DVR that beginning Monday, September 3rd, at 3:00 PM Pacific, reruns of Donny Osmond's "Pyramid" are coming to GSN.
Does Tribune Media Services look at the GSN schedule releases and stop reading after the first two words, or what?
ISTR either the daytime run or the Friday night stack being listed as Donnymid for a short time when it wasn't, so this just might be a placeholder.
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Well, I see on my DVR that beginning Monday, September 3rd, at 3:00 PM Pacific, reruns of Donny Osmond's "Pyramid" are coming to GSN.
Does Tribune Media Services look at the GSN schedule releases and stop reading after the first two words, or what?
It's not nearly as bad as when the U-Verse listings say that CBS episodes of TPIR are hosted by Bill Cullen.
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It's not nearly as bad as when the U-Verse listings say that CBS episodes of TPIR are hosted by Bill Cullen.
That's new to me. The glaring error for TPiR's U-Verse listing that I have noticed is that Bart Eskander still directs it.
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And as per Buzzerblog, we got a sneak peak this Thursday at 10PM.
I'm all set to record it.
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Well, I see on my DVR that beginning Monday, September 3rd, at 3:00 PM Pacific, reruns of Donny Osmond's "Pyramid" are coming to GSN.
Does Tribune Media Services look at the GSN schedule releases and stop reading after the first two words, or what?
It's not nearly as bad as when the U-Verse listings say that CBS episodes of TPIR are hosted by Bill Cullen.
That's just plain funny to me!
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Well, I see on my DVR that beginning Monday, September 3rd, at 3:00 PM Pacific, reruns of Donny Osmond's "Pyramid" are coming to GSN.
Turns out they did correct this. Everything is now copacetic.
Tournament of Champions top-row box: THINGS THAT ARE COPACETIC.
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Tournament of Champions top-row box: THINGS THAT ARE COPACETIC.
I could only hope my celebrity partner was hipster enough to say "Velocity Girl's first album."
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I could only hope my celebrity partner was hipster enough to say "Velocity Girl's first album."
If I was the judge, I would not allow that clue. Velocity Girl's first album is TITLED "Copacetic." It's akin to saying "Mayim Bialik" for "Things that blossom", or "Vanna" for "Things that are white".
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If I was the judge, I would not allow that clue.
Good thing you're not the judge, then, because:
It's akin to saying "Mayim Bialik" for "Things that blossom"
or "Vanna" for "Things that are white".
...these are not equivalent situations, and for that matter are both perfectly legitimate clues. Are you suggesting Miss Bialik has not blossomed or that Vanna is not caucasian? I think the word "are" in there saves it, frankly.
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I could only hope my celebrity partner was hipster enough to say "Velocity Girl's first album."
If I was the judge, I would not allow that clue.
And you just don't get it.
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And you just don't get it.
Nice counterargument there. At least Chris offered a reason why he disagreed.
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If I was the judge, I would not allow that clue.
Good thing you're not the judge, then, because:
It's akin to saying "Mayim Bialik" for "Things that blossom"
or "Vanna" for "Things that are white".
...these are not equivalent situations, and for that matter are both perfectly legitimate clues. Are you suggesting Miss Bialik has not blossomed or that Vanna is not caucasian? I think the word "are" in there saves it, frankly.
No way in hell either of those would be acceptable on classic Pyramid. There was a specific rule about giving clues that are "leading" the partner, as Dick put it.
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"Leading" would be saying "Vanna..." in the way you do in the front game to indicate you want the blank filled in. How would it be leading to say it in a more closed manner?
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There's more than one way to lead. Saying Vanna for "Things That Are White" is trying to lead one's partner to think of the word "white" in a fashion other than that intended in the Winner's Circle.
"Well, it's technically correct" has never defeated "you're being more sneaky than you are giving a list" in any judgment I've ever seen on any version of Pyramid.
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There's more than one way to lead. Saying Vanna for "Things That Are White" is trying to lead one's partner to think of the word "white" in a fashion other than that intended in the Winner's Circle.
"Well, it's technically correct" has never defeated "you're being more sneaky than you are giving a list" in any judgment I've ever seen on any version of Pyramid.
It has in instances I've seen. For THINGS YOU FRY, Joel Brooks said, "French potatoes," and he got buzzed. Dick Clark pointed out that there are Irish potatoes, Idaho potatoes, and German potatoes, so why can't there be French potatoes? When they came back from the commercial, Dick announced that although the judge thought that Joel was indeed leading to "French fries," since there was such a thing as French potatoes, they couldn't disqualify the clue, so they awarded the contestant the $250 for that box.
Also, a number of times for THINGS THAT RATTLE, the judge has allowed the clue "A baby's toy." Yes, you might automatically think of a actual rattle when you first hear that clue, but there are a number of baby toys that could rattle, so it's legal.
I'm sure there was a "within reason" clause. Note Vicki Lawrence getting buzzed for saying "A kid's toy bag" for THINGS YOU GRAB or Robin Riker getting the buzzer for saying "A dog's bugs" for THINGS IN A FLEA MARKET.
Brendan
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I'm sure there was a "within reason" clause.
You don't need one. What does a judge do?
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There's more than one way to lead. Saying Vanna for "Things That Are White" is trying to lead one's partner to think of the word "white" in a fashion other than that intended in the Winner's Circle.
"Well, it's technically correct" has never defeated "you're being more sneaky than you are giving a list" in any judgment I've ever seen on any version of Pyramid.
It has in instances I've seen. For THINGS YOU FRY, Joel Brooks said, "French potatoes," and he got buzzed. Dick Clark pointed out that there are Irish potatoes, Idaho potatoes, and German potatoes, so why can't there be French potatoes? When they came back from the commercial, Dick announced that although the judge thought that Joel was indeed leading to "French fries," since there was such a thing as French potatoes, they couldn't disqualify the clue, so they awarded the contestant the $250 for that box.
Frenching (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/french) is a way of cutting potatoes into strips. One would probably expect frenched potatoes would then be fried.
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I'll give you "French potatoes" as a counter, and retract my "never". But "a baby's toy" is legal because the reason it's called a rattle is that it rattles. Vanna's last name is probably not White as a description of skin tone.
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No, "a baby's toy" is legal because rattles are not the only baby's toys that can rattle.
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Disagree. The only notable thing "a snake's tail" can do is rattle, but that would also be a legal clue.
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I'm not sure what you're aiming at with that. Some snakes' tails rattle, and others' don't. "A snake's tail" is not a synonym for "rattle," because they're not the same thing, even if one sometimes includes the other.
If the only baby's toy ever invented were the rattle, then "a baby's toy" would be synonymous with "rattle," and therefore illegal. But of course there are countless other toys besides rattles, and some of them, whether by design or defect, make that noise nonetheless.
Vanna is, in fact, white. I don't see how whether her name was intended to reflect that fact or not has any bearing on the clue's legality.
(This whole thing reminds me of a 1988 Family Feud episode. Pointing out a coincidence, Ray said something like "we have the Brown family against the White family, and they're color coordinated.")
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Last month, I was playing Pyramid with some friends. Three of the people in the room were professionals who had actually been Pyramid judges for various incarnations of the show. Even they didn't agree on everything. My point is that I'm a little tired of seeing just about every thread on Pyramid disintegrate into a picky, hair-splitting argument about hypothetical situations. Can't we please talk about what's happening on the shows themselves and not make up things to argue about that are impossible to resolve?
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Vanna's last name is probably not White as a description of skin tone.
Given how literal surname origins can be, there's a decent chance that it was at one point.
It's akin to saying "Mayim Bialik" for "Things that blossom"
Whoa.
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OK. I think that Yvette has made a name for herself as a good Pyramid player, and GSN would do well to invite her back next season.
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Last month, I was playing Pyramid with some friends. Three of the people in the room were professionals who had actually been Pyramid judges for various incarnations of the show.
Matt Ottinger is ... the most interesting man in the world!
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Last month, I was playing Pyramid with some friends. Three of the people in the room were professionals who had actually been Pyramid judges for various incarnations of the show.
Matt Ottinger is ... the most interesting man in the world!
Honestly, I was just about the least interesting man in the room. Still pretty damned cool, let me tell you.
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Oh, I don't know, Matt. You host, produce and write for a local game show that's been on the air for about a quarter-century. You've been on two of my favorite game shows. In my book, you're quite interesting, and that's a fact.
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If you'll forgive the name-drop, I told Teresa Ganzel something not long ago that she really liked: "Your career is so interesting that Carol Burnett is only the fifth-funniest person you've worked with." Anyone who has played Pyramid with three judges from the show is pretty damned interesting!
\In case you're wondering, the four that I ranked ahead of Carol were, in chronological order, Jackie Gleason and Richard Pryor (The Toy), Johnny Carson (Tea Time Movie) and Jim Carrey (The Duck Factory, which is how she ended up on Pyramid).
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Last month, I was playing Pyramid with some friends. Three of the people in the room were professionals who had actually been Pyramid judges for various incarnations of the show. Even they didn't agree on everything.
It is generally not in my nature to make demands of people, so I will very gently prod and say that it would be really awesome of you if you'd share some of the fascinating details about that day.
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ditto to what Travis said, even if it's only how it came to pass
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I apologize for my role in picking the Pyramid judging rules to death. In my defense, I forgot that some people don't get as much enjoyment out of picking rules to death as I do.