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Title: GSN Questions
Post by: abba on May 10, 2012, 01:36:40 AM
How come GSN is showing Family Feud all day.its a good show but come on.lets get some variety.Maybe show a bob barker price is right.Maybe show some weakest link.but it's too much Family Feud I think.Anyone agree?
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: BrandonFG on May 10, 2012, 12:42:03 PM
It gets ratings. Not being a smartaleck, but I'm sure that's a lot of the reason.

GSN hasn't shown Barker's TPiR in 12 years and I doubt they'll start now.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: clemon79 on May 10, 2012, 12:54:27 PM
It gets ratings. Not being a smartaleck, but I'm sure that's a lot of the reason.
It does, but for once in his life abba has a point. I was watching the first GSN I'd watched in a LONG time the other day and it was a damned lot of Feud. It's like they're not even trying anymore.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: BrandonFG on May 10, 2012, 12:58:37 PM
Thought I brought it up, but out of curiosity, how many hours of a daily schedule consist of Feud?
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: Don Howard on May 10, 2012, 01:05:27 PM
how many hours of a daily schedule consist of Feud?
Five hours (10 shows) each day Monday-Friday:

12:30am, 1:00am, 9:00am, 9:30am, 4:00pm, 4:30pm, 5:00pm, 5:30pm, 11:00pm, 11:30pm (Eastern time)

On Monday, it's also on from 7pm-11pm (8 more shows in 4 hours).

On Saturday, it's on continuously from 5pm through midnight. That's 14 shows over 7 hours.

On Sunday, it runs from 3-6pm and from 11pm-midnight. So there's another 8 shows over those 4 hours.

Total for a week: 40 hours of The Feud......80 episodes
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: BrandonFG on May 10, 2012, 01:14:04 PM
Thanks Dave. Yeah, I could see how that could get old fast. Reminds me of how TV Land does with their schedule sometimes. Honestly, it seems that cable programmers in general have become quite lazy with the content; anything that gets ratings automatically gets 2 or 3 hour daytime blocks.

/Will save my full cable rant for another time
//Love my Roku setup though
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: Fedya on May 10, 2012, 01:37:40 PM
And yet some people complain when TCM shows the same movie in two consecutive months.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: xavier45 on May 10, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
how many hours of a daily schedule consist of Feud?
Five hours (10 shows) each day Monday-Friday:

12:30am, 1:00am, 9:00am, 9:30am, 4:00pm, 4:30pm, 5:00pm, 5:30pm, 11:00pm, 11:30pm (Eastern time)

On Monday, it's also on from 7pm-11pm (8 more shows in 4 hours).

On Saturday, it's on continuously from 5pm through midnight. That's 14 shows over 7 hours.

On Sunday, it runs from 3-6pm and from 11pm-midnight. So there's another 8 shows over those 4 hours.

Total for a week: 40 hours of The Feud......80 episodes
Add to that the Harvey Block on Wednesday Nights from 7pm-Midnight, and you get 50 hours of Family Feud a week. And out of all of those, only 5 of those showings are Dawson.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: TLEberle on May 10, 2012, 02:57:33 PM
Add to that the Harvey Block on Wednesday Nights from 7pm-Midnight, and you get 50 hours of Family Feud a week.
We do? Forty plus five is fifty?
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: xavier45 on May 10, 2012, 03:25:32 PM
Add to that the Harvey Block on Wednesday Nights from 7pm-Midnight, and you get 50 hours of Family Feud a week.
We do? Forty plus five is fifty?
10 episodes in that block, not 5.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: clemon79 on May 10, 2012, 03:37:25 PM
10 episodes in that block, not 5.
...each of which runs 0.5 hours.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: Don Howard on May 10, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
I already had 11pm-midnight accounted for each weeknight, but, yes, I missed the extra block on Wednesday nights (7-11pm).
So that adds 4 hours (8 shows) to the mix making the adjusted weekly grand total 44 hours (88 shows).

168 hours in a week....and FF gets nearly a quarter of them.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: Kevin Prather on May 10, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
Add to that the Harvey Block on Wednesday Nights from 7pm-Midnight, and you get 50 hours of Family Feud a week.
We do? Forty plus five is fifty?
10 episodes in that block, not 5.
80 episodes + 10 episodes = 90 episodes, or 45 hours.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: catnap1972 on May 10, 2012, 06:37:48 PM
Honestly, it seems that cable programmers in general have become quite lazy with the content; anything that gets ratings automatically gets 2 or 3 hour daytime blocks.


Could be worse...Hallmark moves or ditches stuff after a week or two if it's not performing.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: WarioBarker on May 10, 2012, 10:27:27 PM
80 episodes + 10 episodes = 90 episodes, or 45 hours.
And out of 168 hours, GSN airs Feud for just over one-quarter of a week. Yeah, I'd say they're not trying. The thing is, how many of the remaining 123 hours does GSN use for infomercials? Because those shouldn't be considered, IMO.

If they insist on showing this much, at least replace Karn and O'Hurley with Combs and Anderson (Combs because GSN never got around to his finale and much of Challenge), Anderson because it'd be something different).
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: xavier45 on May 10, 2012, 11:01:27 PM
10 episodes in that block, not 5.
...each of which runs 0.5 hours.
Yeah, sorry about that. Got mixed up with the numbers.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: PYLdude on May 10, 2012, 11:24:08 PM
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm gonna ask it again- would it be too much of a stretch for GSN to get rights to air the previous night's Jeopardy and Wheel episodes in daytime as a just-in-case-you-missed-it kinda deal, kinda like Comedy Central did with Conan?
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: clemon79 on May 11, 2012, 12:11:52 AM
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm gonna ask it again- would it be too much of a stretch for GSN to get rights to air the previous night's Jeopardy and Wheel episodes in daytime as a just-in-case-you-missed-it kinda deal, kinda like Comedy Central did with Conan?
Fine idea. Presumably too expensive. And at this point I'm starting to think "too expensive" is damned close to "it would cost money."
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: PYLdude on May 11, 2012, 12:50:05 AM
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm gonna ask it again- would it be too much of a stretch for GSN to get rights to air the previous night's Jeopardy and Wheel episodes in daytime as a just-in-case-you-missed-it kinda deal, kinda like Comedy Central did with Conan?
Fine idea. Presumably too expensive. And at this point I'm starting to think "too expensive" is damned close to "it would cost money."

I gotta agree with you on that latter point. But then again, couldn't you also make that point for a lot of cable channels these days? Seems like everyone wants to do things on the cheap, quality of programming be damned. (At least it would explain how Byron Allen was able to spin his filler offerings into several cable channels.)
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: TLEberle on May 11, 2012, 01:36:49 AM
Fine idea. Presumably too expensive. And at this point I'm starting to think "too expensive" is damned close to "it would cost money."
At some point, doesn't everything cost money? At some point you actually have to put out a product, otherwise (sadly) it makes more sense to pull up stakes and call it good.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: That Don Guy on May 11, 2012, 01:39:40 AM
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm gonna ask it again- would it be too much of a stretch for GSN to get rights to air the previous night's Jeopardy and Wheel episodes in daytime as a just-in-case-you-missed-it kinda deal, kinda like Comedy Central did with Conan?
Do any stations air episodes on a one-day delay?  I know at least one station did during football season back when Monday Night Football was on ABC.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: TLEberle on May 11, 2012, 01:47:07 AM
Do any stations air episodes on a one-day delay?  I know at least one station did during football season back when Monday Night Football was on ABC.
Seattle and Los Angeles useta-did, in fact. I know about Seattle because that's where I are, and LA because Alex mentioned the cities where a tournament final would not conclude on Friday but Saturday.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: clemon79 on May 11, 2012, 01:59:00 AM
I gotta agree with you on that latter point. But then again, couldn't you also make that point for a lot of cable channels these days?
Sure you could, but we're not talking about other cable channels here, we're talking about GSN. Just because it's the trend doesn't mean it's right. Just means this model is gonna die faster and we'll all be getting our TV on Teh Intarwebs. (Which really wouldn't break my heart a whole lot.)

At some point, doesn't everything cost money?
Certainly. My point is, when on average six-plus hours of your programming per day is the same friggin' game with different coats of paint applied, it's pretty clear that their definition of "too much" is a little lower than it should be if they want to be taken seriously. Right now I look at that and say "the buzzards are circling."
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: catnap1972 on May 11, 2012, 06:29:37 AM
To add further insult (since that other thread went in another direction), even $25,000 Pyramid returning (let alone "new to you" eps) is sounding really iffy now.  Friday night block is now Donnymid (2nd season).  While the posted schedule supposedly shows $25K back at 10:30am next week, we know already how reliable (not) those are.
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: mmb5 on May 11, 2012, 07:19:30 AM
Thanks Dave. Yeah, I could see how that could get old fast. Reminds me of how TV Land does with their schedule sometimes. Honestly, it seems that cable programmers in general have become quite lazy with the content; anything that gets ratings automatically gets 2 or 3 hour daytime blocks.

/Will save my full cable rant for another time
//Love my Roku setup though
It's not laziness...it's because it gets ratings and a programmer's job is to get ratings for the entire roster of that organization's suite of channels.  And if there is a show that gets the same above average rating whether you show it once a day or 10 times a day, it's going to be on 10 times a day.

If cable TV was more true competition and less of an oligarchy, I doubt we would have a third of the channels we do now.  As much as I adore college hockey, even I find a TV landscape where it's not "hey, college hockey is on" to "hey, which of the three college hockey games that are on tonight should I watch" tells you something's just a bit off.

One example...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULgqN3TL0qqSg&feature=player_detailpage&v=gqN3TL0qqSg#t=538s[/media]

(For some reason this is not embedding...go to 8:58)
Title: GSN Questions
Post by: Don Howard on May 11, 2012, 08:42:17 AM
168 hours in a week....and FF gets nearly a quarter of them.

And out of 168 hours, GSN airs Feud for just over one-quarter of a week.
Wish I'd thought of that.