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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: 40onTheBlue on February 17, 2012, 12:03:39 AM
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We all know the day will eventually come when Alex Trebek decides to step down as host of Jeopardy! and pass the torch on to someone new. Who do you think would make a worthy successor? Should said person try emulating Alex's style, channel the spirit of Art Fleming or bring their own persona to the job? How readily would the viewing public accept a new host? And how well can Jeopardy! carry on without Alex?
Discuss.
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Mark Walberg
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Pat Kiernan.
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Matt Ottinger.
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Jeff Probst.
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Jeff Probst.
+1
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John O'Hurley.
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Pat Kiernan.
+1. Probst isn't bad either.
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Steve Harvey...
Charles Atkins
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JD Roth...
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Matt Ottinger.
+1.
/someone had to do it
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As productive as these host speculation threads are... During the Watson episodes, when Brad Rutter said that he was pursuing a career in entertainment, did anybody else wonder if he would be a viable "Jeopardy!" host?
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How about Watson hosting? :-)
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As productive as these host speculation threads are... During the Watson episodes, when Brad Rutter said that he was pursuing a career in entertainment, did anybody else wonder if he would be a viable "Jeopardy!" host?
Brad Rutter is certainly valid option, but the question is how conservative Sony would be in choosing Alex's successor. Would they be willing to take a leap of faith and give the job to someone with no hosting experience at all or hire a "name" commodity with a proven track record? Merv Griffin may have been brave enough to do the former by casting Art Fleming in 1964, and we all know it was a brilliant choice. However, given the value of the Jeopardy! brand and the show's revered place in television culture today, one would think Sony would be simply too averse to such a risk.
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Gilbert Gottfried.
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Gilbert Gottfried.
<screams>A DAILY DOUBLE! (http://"http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/3912/dailydouble.png")</screams>
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Sean Connery.
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Rolf Benirschke.
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Drew Carey.
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Drew Carey.
"The Daily Double is like a puzzle. The trick to it is..."
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Totally serious one, here -- Todd Alan Crain, the man who hosted Watson's many practice games. I recall reading that Trebek secretly watched Todd host a game, then surprised him afterward and basically gave him a seal of approval.
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It has to be someone who can take the grind of reading hundreds of questions per taping day without burning out.
Wolf Blitzer. Seriously. He's not available and would never do it, but he's the right type.
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Wolf Blitzer. Seriously. He's not available and would never do it, but he's the right type.
After the whooping he took last time he played?
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Wolf Blitzer. Seriously. He's not available and would never do it, but he's the right type.
After the whooping he took last time he played?
Hosting the show would be different from playing it, but yeah, Blitzer's not going to give up the CNN gig he's held for years now. I like Mark Wahlberg or Pat Kiernan.
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Hosting the show would be different from playing it...
True, but it seems to me if you pick someone who has played the game at all previously, you'd want someone who made a good showing rather than someone who was pretty much humiliated.
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I agree with everyone who said Pat Kiernan. He'd be a perfect fit, IMO.
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Hosting the show would be different from playing it...
True, but it seems to me if you pick someone who has played the game at all previously, you'd want someone who made a good showing rather than someone who was pretty much humiliated.
That makes no sense.
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Hosting the show would be different from playing it...
True, but it seems to me if you pick someone who has played the game at all previously, you'd want someone who made a good showing rather than someone who was pretty much humiliated.
That makes no sense.
Well, it makes sense in my head. Maybe it makes sense in someone else's.
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Well, it makes sense in my head. Maybe it makes sense in someone else's.
I dug it too. Who would buy into Wolf Blitzer as host when he did so laughably badly last time out? And that's on the easier stuff, not even Regular Recipe.
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I for one could not give a rip whether the host is poor at their own game or not, since they are the host, and not a contestant. It utterly does not matter.
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I won't disagree with Mark Walberg, and I haven't seen Pat Kiernan. I also don't think how someone previously did as a contestant means anything about whether they can host, at least for this show. I'd like to suggest Bob Costas, though.
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I also don't think how someone previously did as a contestant means anything about whether they can host,
If someone isn't able to handle the material when they're playing, what makes you think they'll be able to handle the accents and foreign languages and other stuff that Jeopardy throws at Alex? Is it a perfect indicator, no, of course not. But when someone says "Wolf Blitzer," the first thing I think of is his cratering on Jeopardy and not his work on CNN.
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I won't disagree with Mark Walberg, and I haven't seen Pat Kiernan. I also don't think how someone previously did as a contestant means anything about whether they can host, at least for this show. I'd like to suggest Bob Costas, though.
Get comfy, grab a drink, and enjoy. (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqfa5bJl5A")
(I think his work on Pop Culture represents Jeopardy! work closer than Grand Slam.)
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If someone isn't able to handle the material when they're playing, what makes you think they'll be able to handle the accents and foreign languages and other stuff that Jeopardy throws at Alex?
What makes you think Alex can handle them? I speak German and Russian, and cringe when I hear Alex pronounce words in either of those languages.
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Here's my Top 3 Replacements. Seriously.
1) Pat Kiernan - His voice can entrance the contestants to listen to him very carefully. Every show Pat has done, he's read questions extremely well.
2) Jeff Probst - Having already hosted R&R Jeopardy for VH1, 'Survivor' will (hopefully) be cancelled the season Alex decides to quit 'giving the answers'.
3) Tim Brando - Once considered a replacement for Pat Sajak on the daytime 'Wheel of Fortune', the CBS sportscaster is a very eloquent speaker.
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Will Ferrell.
How about Watson hosting? :-)
Doesn't take the game seriously enough.
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Every show Pat has done, he's read questions extremely well.
Just because everybody seems to have forgotten about it, here's (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgFTkQgd56Q&feature=related") Pat in Studio 7, reading legitimate Jeopardy-like questions.
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If someone isn't able to handle the material when they're playing, what makes you think they'll be able to handle the accents and foreign languages and other stuff that Jeopardy throws at Alex? Is it a perfect indicator, no, of course not. But when someone says "Wolf Blitzer," the first thing I think of is his cratering on Jeopardy and not his work on CNN.
I don't think it's any kind of indicator at all. It's a vastly different experience reading questions than having to quickly answer them. I just don't see how you can draw any conclusion about someone's hosting ability based on that.
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Get comfy, grab a drink, and enjoy. (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqfa5bJl5A")
(I think his work on Pop Culture represents Jeopardy! work closer than Grand Slam.)
Squee! Nice to see some of the gameplay uploaded as opposed to ads.
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What's Jim Caldwell up to these days?
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What's Jim Caldwell up to these days?
He's the new Baltimore Ravens' QB coach. That or about 210 lbs.
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Jimmy Maguire from the Clue Crew. He would work so well and he's already known to the Jeopardy! audience.
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Jimmy Maguire from the Clue Crew. He would work so well and he's already known to the Jeopardy! audience.
Not a bad answer. Doesn't he host the rehearsal mini-games?
The big problem I'd see with Kiernan is that he'd probably have to choose between giving up his job at NY1 or a pretty exhausting routine of doing early-morning news in NYC during the week then flying to LA for even more television during the weekend, since I can't imagine Harry Friedman relocating production to the east coast.
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Jimmy Maguire from the Clue Crew. He would work so well and he's already known to the Jeopardy! audience.
Not a bad answer. Doesn't he host the rehearsal mini-games?
The big problem I'd see with Kiernan is that he'd probably have to choose between giving up his job at NY1 or a pretty exhausting routine of doing early-morning news in NYC during the week then flying to LA for even more television during the weekend, since I can't imagine Harry Friedman relocating production to the east coast.
If they want him, they can work around his schedule.
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The big problem I'd see with Kiernan is that he'd probably have to choose between giving up his job at NY1 or a pretty exhausting routine of doing early-morning news in NYC during the week then flying to LA for even more television during the weekend, since I can't imagine Harry Friedman relocating production to the east coast.
If they want him, they can work around his schedule.
And if he wants it, he can quit NY1. Nobody says you have to -- or even get to -- keep all your jobs all the time. I betcha hosting Jeopardy would pay a living wage.
/Generally annoyed by speculation threads, especially when they devolve into these sorts of specifics.
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The big problem I'd see with Kiernan is that he'd probably have to choose between giving up his job at NY1 or a pretty exhausting routine of doing early-morning news in NYC during the week then flying to LA for even more television during the weekend, since I can't imagine Harry Friedman relocating production to the east coast.
I'm not sure I see "not having to get up at oh-dark-thirty to host local morning news anymore in exchange for a two-day-work-week at double the salary" as a potential problem. I for one would not have a hard time making that decision.
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when someone says "Wolf Blitzer," the first thing I think of is his cratering on Jeopardy and not his work on CNN.
Watching too many game shows will do that to you.
Did you ever see Bill Cullen playing Blockbusters?
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Did you ever see Bill Cullen playing Blockbusters?
I'm not sure that's the best analogy, only because we've all seen Bill play so many other game shows, and play them well, that we could only assume that he'd be able to handle Blockbusters well enough.
Meanwhile, Wolf Blitzer played Jeopardy back in 1997 and did just fine (http://"http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=2550"). I don't think the world at large is particularly concerned about Wolf Blitzer's Jeopardy-playing skillz.
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I'm not sure that's the best analogy, only because we've all seen Bill play so many other game shows, and play them well, that we could only assume that he'd be able to handle Blockbusters well enough.
Once during a rehearsal of Blockbusters, Bill said something to the effect of "If only I knew the answers to half the questions I've asked over the years". This tells me that while he may have been fine at word games, Q&A games such as Blockbusters or Jeopardy! were not his forte.
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And yet, when Trivia Trap had their celebrity week, Bill was the top winner.
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Once during a rehearsal of Blockbusters, Bill said something to the effect of "If only I knew the answers to half the questions I've asked over the years". This tells me that while he may have been fine at word games, Q&A games such as Blockbusters or Jeopardy! were not his forte.
Or that Bill routinely downplayed his own abilities so as not to come off like a know-it-all.
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The big problem I'd see with Kiernan is that he'd probably have to choose between giving up his job at NY1 or a pretty exhausting routine of doing early-morning news in NYC during the week then flying to LA for even more television during the weekend, since I can't imagine Harry Friedman relocating production to the east coast.
If they want him, they can work around his schedule.
And if he wants it, he can quit NY1. Nobody says you have to -- or even get to -- keep all your jobs all the time. I betcha hosting Jeopardy would pay a living wage.
/Generally annoyed by speculation threads, especially when they devolve into these sorts of specifics.
Not to mention it might not be an all-or-nothing issue: if NY1 wanted to keep Kiernan badly enough, they could probably work out a 3- or 4-day-week schedule for him, allowing for some flights to LA for Jeopardy!.
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I'm not sure that's the best analogy, only because we've all seen Bill play so many other game shows, and play them well, that we could only assume that he'd be able to handle Blockbusters well enough.
Once during a rehearsal of Blockbusters, Bill said something to the effect of "If only I knew the answers to half the questions I've asked over the years". This tells me that while he may have been fine at word games, Q&A games such as Blockbusters or Jeopardy! were not his forte.
Uncle Bill was on the original Jeopardy with Art Fleming. I saw a picture of him, Peter Marshall and Art James behind the podiums. I'm guessing they were playing for charity and that it was an anniversary show. There was a cake in the picture as well. IIRC, the pic was in The Encyclopedia of TV Game Shows. I'm pretty sure Cullen had the high score.
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I have two votes:
1. Marc Summers-Having seen him host History IQ and The Nova Quiz on PBS I know he can handle a serious quizzer.
2. Bob Goen-He indicated that he wanted to host Jeopardy should Alex retire on an interview with buzzerblog several years back.
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Cullen also cleaned up on Game Show Hosts week on Wheel, didn't he? (At least based on comments on the following episode with Tom Kennedy.)
In conclusion: Bill was the Chuck Norris of game show hosts.
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Once during a rehearsal of Blockbusters, Bill said something to the effect of "If only I knew the answers to half the questions I've asked over the years". This tells me that while he may have been fine at word games, Q&A games such as Blockbusters or Jeopardy! were not his forte.
Or that Bill routinely downplayed his own abilities so as not to come off like a know-it-all.
I've mentioned this before, but pop culture seemed to be a weakness of his. The week Ludden came back to P+ after Uncle Bill filled in for him, one of the puzzles was Laverne And Shirley. Cullen could get the passwords to the puzzle with little trouble, but openly lamented as he was trying to figure the puzzle out that while he knew it was a TV series he was bad at coming up with titles like that.
On the other hand, he got the puzzle "Senator Joseph McCarthy" after one clue, so while pop culture might have been a weakness, other subjects seemingly were strengths.
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Once during a rehearsal of Blockbusters, Bill said something to the effect of "If only I knew the answers to half the questions I've asked over the years". This tells me that while he may have been fine at word games, Q&A games such as Blockbusters or Jeopardy! were not his forte.
Or that Bill routinely downplayed his own abilities so as not to come off like a know-it-all.
I've mentioned this before, but pop culture seemed to be a weakness of his. The week Ludden came back to P+ after Uncle Bill filled in for him, one of the puzzles was Laverne And Shirley. Cullen could get the passwords to the puzzle with little trouble, but openly lamented as he was trying to figure the puzzle out that while he knew it was a TV series he was bad at coming up with titles like that.
On the other hand, he got the puzzle "Senator Joseph McCarthy" after one clue, so while pop culture might have been a weakness, other subjects seemingly were strengths.
On TTTT, Bill knew about the movies and actors of a certain era. Who else would have asked a question about '20's star Milton Sills to ferret out the impostors?
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It's been awhile since that particular era counted as popular culture. :-P
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Here's an idea. How about just cancelling the show when Alex retires? Jeopardy has been his since 1984 and the only sub i can recall ever was Pat Sajak in that April Fool's switch.
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The big problem I'd see with Kiernan is that he'd probably have to choose between giving up his job at NY1 or a pretty exhausting routine of doing early-morning news in NYC during the week then flying to LA for even more television during the weekend, since I can't imagine Harry Friedman relocating production to the east coast.
If they want him, they can work around his schedule.
And if he wants it, he can quit NY1. Nobody says you have to -- or even get to -- keep all your jobs all the time. I betcha hosting Jeopardy would pay a living wage.
/Generally annoyed by speculation threads, especially when they devolve into these sorts of specifics.
Not to mention it might not be an all-or-nothing issue: if NY1 wanted to keep Kiernan badly enough, they could probably work out a 3- or 4-day-week schedule for him, allowing for some flights to LA for Jeopardy!.
Now the good people at Sony Television wouldn't ever give this much thought since they have their own studios in LA, but if they wanted Pat Kiernan badly enough, couldn't moving the show back to New York be a consideration? After all, when The Price is Right wanted Tom Bergeron, and Tom wanted to stay grounded in New York, they offered to move the show to New York.
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Here's an idea. How about just cancelling the show when Alex retires? Jeopardy has been his since 1984 and the only sub i can recall ever was Pat Sajak in that April Fool's switch.
That's....certainly an idea, all right.
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Here's an idea. How about just cancelling the show when Alex retires? Jeopardy has been his since 1984 and the only sub i can recall ever was Pat Sajak in that April Fool's switch.
That's....certainly an idea, all right.
But not a good one.
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Here's an idea. How about just cancelling the show when Alex retires? Jeopardy has been his since 1984 and the only sub i can recall ever was Pat Sajak in that April Fool's switch.
The show is near the top of the ratings (still #2 last I checked). It would have been like CBS canceling TPiR when Bob left; just because it's an institution and the host became synonymous with the show is not a justifiable reason to the show. Same exact situation.
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Here's an idea. How about just cancelling the show when Alex retires? Jeopardy has been his since 1984 and the only sub i can recall ever was Pat Sajak in that April Fool's switch.
The show is near the top of the ratings (still #2 last I checked). It would have been like CBS canceling TPiR when Bob left; just because it's an institution and the host became synonymous with the show is not a justifiable reason to the show. Same exact situation.
But using that logic, shouldn't Oprah still be hosting her talk show?
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Here's an idea. How about just cancelling the show when Alex retires? Jeopardy has been his since 1984 and the only sub i can recall ever was Pat Sajak in that April Fool's switch.
The show is near the top of the ratings (still #2 last I checked). It would have been like CBS canceling TPiR when Bob left; just because it's an institution and the host became synonymous with the show is not a justifiable reason to the show. Same exact situation.
But using that logic, shouldn't Oprah still be hosting her talk show?
Yes and no. Oprah owned her show, and she decided to cancel. One difference: her show had her name in the title, so had she stepped down, the show would've simply changed titles and continue with a new host(ess) at the helm. And honestly, many markets more or less did that by replacing her show with one hosted by one of her proteges (we here air Dr. Oz, for example).
Jeopardy! is Merv's (now Sony) show and not named after its host. So when Alex wants to step down, it's still Sony's decision on whether to continue, not Alex's. Ditto CBS/Fremantle with Bob's departure. Both companies know their shows could still pull a profit and ratings with a new host. And as much as people still complain about Drew (not here, but in general), it still ranks near the top of the daytime ratings.
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It would have been like CBS canceling TPiR when Bob left; just because it's an institution and the host became synonymous with the show is not a justifiable reason to the show. Same exact situation.
Oh God, can you imagine somebody of Droo's caliber hosting Jeopardy? I'd sooner see the show end.
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Whomever it is, it won't be an unknown. It might end up like "Family Feud." Change the host every three years, but the show goes on forever.
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But using that logic, shouldn't Oprah still be hosting her talk show?
Yes and no. Oprah owned her show, and she decided to cancel. One difference: her show had her name in the title, so had she stepped down, the show would've simply changed titles and continue with a new host(ess) at the helm.
Actually, no and no. The exceptions and comparisons should be fairly obvious to anybody that watches television. Certain personality-driven talk shows (essentially all but one* of the syndicated efforts) are host-dependent, and when the host leaves, it's over. The syndicator might try to keep the same production people in place and try again with somebody new, but they can't convince you that it's the same show. Game shows are completely different, and just as Price didn't roll over and die when Bob retired, there's no way that Sony will just shrug its corporate shoulders and close up shop if Alex or Pat decide to step down, as long as the shows have a chance to make money.
NBC, bless its little seventh-place heart, will always have The Tonight Show, and they've kept the name Late Night for their 12:30 show through three regimes now. I'm very interested in what will happen with CBS (and even ABC) when their late night hosts move on, since neither have the legacy of the two NBC series, and both, while still pretty traditional talk shows, were created around their stars.
[size="1"]*Note that Live with Regis and Kelly is now just Live with Kelly, just as it was simply Live with Regis between the Gifford and Ripa eras.[/size]
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and both, while still pretty traditional talk shows, were created around their stars.
Well, one of them anyhow. The Late Late Show seems to have maintained its name (and even a pretty radical format change experiment) through three hosts in the same sense that Late Night has, right? And since its name is a riff off of Letterman's show title, I don't think I see that changing, even when Letterman packs it in. CBS has successfully turned Late Show into a brand, I think.
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and both, while still pretty traditional talk shows, were created around their stars.
Well, one of them anyhow. The Late Late Show seems to have maintained its name (and even a pretty radical format change experiment) through three hosts in the same sense that Late Night has, right? And since its name is a riff off of Letterman's show title, I don't think I see that changing, even when Letterman packs it in. CBS has successfully turned Late Show into a brand, I think.
Sorry, I twisted a few phrases there and may have led you off track. I was talking about Letterman and Kimmel, not Letterman and Ferguson. You're right, Late Late appears to be an established brand now, and I certainly believe the smart money will be on CBS keeping Late Show as well.
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Sorry, I twisted a few phrases there and may have led you off track. I was talking about Letterman and Kimmel, not Letterman and Ferguson.
Fair enough. You can understand why I might completely forget (even in the face of your statement) that ABC even has a late-night show. :)
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CBS has successfully turned Late Show into a brand, I think.
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And even before it was a talk show, it was the name for their late movie, at least on some of their O&O stations if not the entire network. So yeah, they pretty much own the title.
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I thought Jeff Probst did a good job with R&R Jeopardy. Would he want to give up Survivor if he had to make a choice?
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I thought Jeff Probst did a good job with R&R Jeopardy. Would he want to give up Survivor if he had to make a choice?
How much does he get paid to do Survivor, and what's his work schedule?
EDIT: According to Celebrity Net Worth, $200k an episode. (http://"http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/jeff-probst-net-worth/") That would be about $3 million a year, vs. Alex's reported $10 million. (http://"http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/alex-trebek-net-worth/")
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EDIT: According to Celebrity Net Worth, $200k an episode. (http://"http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/jeff-probst-net-worth/") That would be about $3 million a year season,
Fixed that for you, of which there are two in a year, which comes out to about six and a half mil per assuming a 16-week season.
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EDIT: According to Celebrity Net Worth, $200k an episode. (http://"http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/jeff-probst-net-worth/") That would be about $3 million a year season,
Fixed that for you, of which there are two in a year, which comes out to about six and a half mil per assuming a 16-week season.
Mea culpa. Forgot that there are two seasons of Survivor yearly. Still surprising to me that he's making less than Alex.
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Mea culpa. Forgot that there are two seasons of Survivor yearly. Still surprising to me that he's making less than Alex.
Why? Alex presents about 100 hours of television per year. (200 shows, right?) Probst presents something like 36 when you work in finales and reunion shows.
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Alex presents about 100 hours of television per year. (200 shows, right?)
230 shows, plus on-location stuff and promo material. And he's been doing it for longer.
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Mea culpa. Forgot that there are two seasons of Survivor yearly. Still surprising to me that he's making less than Alex.
Why? Alex presents about 100 hours of television per year. (200 shows, right?) Probst presents something like 36 when you work in finales and reunion shows.
I suppose that's a fair point. I just figured Probst would be making more considering he's hosting a network's flagship primetime program. Compare to the judges on American Idol, for example.
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I suppose that's a fair point. I just figured Probst would be making more considering he's hosting a network's flagship primetime program. Compare to the judges on American Idol, for example.
FWIW, Probst does make more per episode than Trebek. Poor Alex only gets a little more than $700 for each clue he reads.
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I just figured Probst would be making more considering he's hosting a network's flagship primetime program. Compare to the judges on American Idol, for example.
For the record, while the show still does well, it's at best a top-twenty show these days, not nearly the network's flagship program (sadly, that would probably be NCIS) and not remotely comparable to the consistently top-rated American Idol.
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I just figured Probst would be making more considering he's hosting a network's flagship primetime program. Compare to the judges on American Idol, for example.
For the record, ... it's at best a top-twenty show these days, not nearly the network's flagship program (sadly, that would probably be NCIS)
No kidding? Shows how well I've been paying attention to network TV lately.
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I just figured Probst would be making more considering he's hosting a network's flagship primetime program. Compare to the judges on American Idol, for example.
For the record, ... it's at best a top-twenty show these days, not nearly the network's flagship program (sadly, that would probably be NCIS)
No kidding? Shows how well I've been paying attention to network TV lately.
Lately? Hell, CSI over took Survivor years ago. You're in the stone ages, dude. ;)
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I just figured Probst would be making more considering he's hosting a network's flagship primetime program. Compare to the judges on American Idol, for example.
For the record, ... it's at best a top-twenty show these days, not nearly the network's flagship program (sadly, that would probably be NCIS)
No kidding? Shows how well I've been paying attention to network TV lately.
Lately? Hell, CSI over took Survivor years ago. You're in the stone ages, dude. ;)
Please remember that young Kevin's bedtime is before Survivor.
Oh, hi Kev. :-)
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Screw both of you. Especially you, Mike. :P
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Having watched the original "Jeopardy!" during the early 1970s on NBC, I still consider Alex the "new" host of the show, as I do Pat Sajak on Wheel, even though he's been hosting since 1981!!! Alex definitely is synonymous with Jeopardy!, and I remember when it first came back in 1984, many fans of the old Jeopardy! had to get used to this change, but they did. I think the fact that the old Jeopardy hadn't aired since 1979 on NBC, and there was a 5 year "hiatus" for the game helped somewhat. We talk of Price is Right being in its 40th season, Jeopardy has been on TV now for 43 of the past 48 years on TV, only having a hiatus from 1979-1984.
One person who was not mentioned as a possible successor to Alex is Bryant Gumbel, the former Today show host. He kind of reminds me a bit of Trebek in some ways. He has that air of "superiority" about him while at the same time it seems Bryant might be able to "kid" with a Jeopardy contestant.
I think finding a successor for Alex could prove far more difficult than for Pat Sajak. Comparatively speaking, the Wheel of Fortune host has a far easier time of it. Trebek & Fleming both became master craftsmen in the fine art of hosting Jeopardy! So many pronunciations, and a lot of talking, and rapid fire pace type questions. They made it almost look effortless, but I know it is anything but that!
I think while on the subject, there's also the thought of finding a successor for Johnny Gilbert. He sounds as fresh as ever to me, but he is 87 years young now. I would suspect if and when Alex eventually steps down, and assuming Johnny is still able to announce, that they might step down together. Any ideas about who could succeed Johnny? At best the show will find successors, not replacements...
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I think the fact that the old Jeopardy hadn't aired since 1979 on NBC, and there was a 5 year "hiatus" for the game helped somewhat. We talk of Price is Right being in its 40th season, Jeopardy has been on TV now for 43 of the past 48 years on TV, only having a hiatus from 1979-1984.
I do not agree with TPiR vs J!. Yes, TPiR is doing the 40th season, but that is the CBS version. Another version of TPiR starring Bill Cullen did have 9 seasons on NBC and ABC (1956-65) and had a hiatus from 1966-72. So, it is been on 51 of 57 years on tv. If TPiR did retire, J! will need 9 seasons to catch up.
Charles Atkins
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Bryant Gumbel's time has passed. He's too old. I think it will be someone from the world of news, such as an Anderson Cooper or sports, like a John Tesh or Jim Nantz.
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Bryant Gumbel's time has passed. He's too old. I think it will be someone from the world of news, such as an Anderson Cooper or sports, like a John Tesh or Jim Nantz.
Agrees on Bryant Gumbel being a little past the game show prime. Greg Gumbel, on the other hand....
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Any ideas about who could succeed Johnny? At best the show will find successors, not replacements...
Randy West.
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I think the fact that the old Jeopardy hadn't aired since 1979 on NBC, and there was a 5 year "hiatus" for the game helped somewhat. We talk of Price is Right being in its 40th season, Jeopardy has been on TV now for 43 of the past 48 years on TV, only having a hiatus from 1979-1984.
I do not agree with TPiR vs J!. Yes, TPiR is doing the 40th season, but that is the CBS version. Another version of TPiR starring Bill Cullen did have 9 seasons on NBC and ABC (1956-65) and had a hiatus from 1966-72. So, it is been on 51 of 57 years on tv. If TPiR did retire, J! will need 9 seasons to catch up.
Charles Atkins
Actually J! would need more than nine seasons to catch up! The original series ran from 1964-1975 (just a few months shy of a full ten years), and was revived in October 1978 until March 1979 (for five months)!
Combining this with the current series run, it adds up to about 37 out of the last 48 years!
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So, Sajak is either 4 or 6 years away from surpassing Bob Barker's record as longest-tenured host of the same show. I think he can do it!
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For Johnny Gilbert's replacement, I think we could go with Rich Fields, Joe Cipriano, or John Cramer.
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Bryant Gumbel's time has passed. He's too old. I think it will be someone from the world of news, such as an Anderson Cooper or sports, like a John Tesh or Jim Nantz.
9/10. Masterful.
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For Johnny Gilbert's replacement, I think we could go with Rich Fields, Joe Cipriano, or John Cramer.
Given that all three sleepwalked through their performances on Wheel, I don't see them doing any better on the sister show.
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For Johnny Gilbert's replacement, I think we could go with Rich Fields, Joe Cipriano, or John Cramer.
Given that all three sleepwalked through their performances on Wheel, I don't see them doing any better on the sister show.
well how about Jim Thornton perhaps?
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For Johnny Gilbert's replacement, I think we could go with Rich Fields, Joe Cipriano, or John Cramer.
Given that all three sleepwalked through their performances on Wheel, I don't see them doing any better on the sister show.
well how about Jim Thornton perhaps?
Probably not. "Wheel" travels a lot, while "Jeopardy!" mostly stays in California.
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Probably not. "Wheel" travels a lot, while "Jeopardy!" mostly stays in California.
I honestly miss Jeopardy! traveling to university campuses. (I know the reason why, but it's still a bit of a bummer)
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Probably not. "Wheel" travels a lot, while "Jeopardy!" mostly stays in California.
I honestly miss Jeopardy! traveling to university campuses. (I know the reason why, but it's still a bit of a bummer)
Can you explain why to those that don't?
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Probably not. "Wheel" travels a lot, while "Jeopardy!" mostly stays in California.
I honestly miss Jeopardy! traveling to university campuses. (I know the reason why, but it's still a bit of a bummer)
Can you explain why to those that don't?
Economics, and having to fly the crew and contestants to the campuses, and finding a place for everyone to stay.
With "Wheel" and the road trips, the contestants mostly come from that city; with "Jeopardy", in addition to the crews, you also fly the contestants from whatever college they're from, and then have to make extra accommodations, etc.
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Probably not. "Wheel" travels a lot, while "Jeopardy!" mostly stays in California.
I honestly miss Jeopardy! traveling to university campuses. (I know the reason why, but it's still a bit of a bummer)
Can you explain why to those that don't?
Economics, and having to fly the crew and contestants to the campuses, and finding a place for everyone to stay.
With "Wheel" and the road trips, the contestants mostly come from that city; with "Jeopardy", in addition to the crews, you also fly the contestants from whatever college they're from, and then have to make extra accommodations, etc.
Well things may be looking up in terms of Jeopardy traveling. They're taping Power Players Week and the Semi-Finals and Finals of the Teen Tournament in D.C. soon, so maybe that means the economy is finally looking bright for them in those regards.
As for "Wheel" traveling a lot, they've seemed to be as sparse in their travels as "Jeopardy!"; probably due to economics as well. I miss the weeks of "Wheel" when they'd shoot outside.
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Isn't J! going to Washington this year for its Power Players Week? Because outside of that, J! doesn'r really need to teavel all that much as opposed to WoF.
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For Johnny Gilbert's replacement, I think we could go with Rich Fields, Joe Cipriano, or John Cramer.
Given that all three sleepwalked through their performances on Wheel, I don't see them doing any better on the sister show.
well how about Jim Thornton perhaps?
Probably not. "Wheel" travels a lot, while "Jeopardy!" mostly stays in California.
Jeopardy will travel on occasion though. I know they are going to DC for Power Players next month. The shows will air in May.
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Probably not. "Wheel" travels a lot, while "Jeopardy!" mostly stays in California.
I honestly miss Jeopardy! traveling to university campuses. (I know the reason why, but it's still a bit of a bummer)
Can you explain why to those that don't?
Economics, and having to fly the crew and contestants to the campuses, and finding a place for everyone to stay.
With "Wheel" and the road trips, the contestants mostly come from that city; with "Jeopardy", in addition to the crews, you also fly the contestants from whatever college they're from, and then have to make extra accommodations, etc.
Grazie! I didn't think it was that simple, from the "(I know the reason why)" I thought something happened one year while traveling and they decided to never do it again. I don't see how it can be that expensive if they do 3 weeks of shows there (say tournament and a week of regular or celebrity shows) and you do it at a college near a large city. They still have to fly the college students to and board them in LA; I don't see how it'd be that much harder to find accommodations in say Chicago if they held it at Northwestern University for example. They are going back to DC so maybe they'll try it again for next year.
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I don't see how it can be that expensive if they do 3 weeks of shows there (say tournament and a week of regular or celebrity shows) and you do it at a college near a large city.
Have you ever rented a moving truck?
Now multiply that by forty and pay a bunch of guys to move your cargo (make sure they don't drop or scratch anything, for Pete's sake!)
and buy a bunch of airline tickets to send the crew there.
Now you need to buy up an entire floor at the Holiday Inn to make sure people have a place to stay.
And you need to book a venus, which isn't cheap.
I can completely understand why Jeopardy would choose to stay home and ride out the downturn. The show is more interesting for being "away," but it isn't any worse at home.
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And you need to book a venus, which isn't cheap.
How much does it cost to book a venus? I can't imagine Venus being cheap (or hospitable).
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How much does it cost to book a venus? I can't imagine Venus being cheap (or hospitable).
I have no idea, but I'm guessing that the ShoWare Center doesn't let the circus or the Harlem Globetrotters take up space for free. And that's just a smallish arena in a Seattle suburb. If you want to take over a performance hall or convention center floor, that's way more.
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And you need to book a venus, which isn't cheap.
I can't imagine Venus being cheap (or hospitable).
I can imagine a hospitable Venus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mons_Venus).
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I don't see how it can be that expensive if they do 3 weeks of shows there (say tournament and a week of regular or celebrity shows) and you do it at a college near a large city.
Have you ever rented a moving truck?
Now multiply that by forty and pay a bunch of guys to move your cargo (make sure they don't drop or scratch anything, for Pete's sake!)
and buy a bunch of airline tickets to send the crew there.
Now you need to buy up an entire floor at the Holiday Inn to make sure people have a place to stay.
And you need to book a venus, which isn't cheap.
I can completely understand why Jeopardy would choose to stay home and ride out the downturn. The show is more interesting for being "away," but it isn't any worse at home.
I have rented a moving truck, yes it's not inexpensive I'll give you that. As for movers and venue, (going off my example) "Hey Northwestern, you want us to showcase your campus and college for the next 3 weeks to millions of people? How about giving us a deal on using your ampitheatre and use of your workers to unload and set up?" As for crew, I send the essential ones to the location and the rest I recruit from the local affiliates.
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I have rented a moving truck, yes it's not inexpensive I'll give you that. As for movers and venue, (going off my example) "Hey Northwestern, you want us to showcase your campus and college for the next 3 weeks to millions of people? How about giving us a deal on using your ampitheatre and use of your workers to unload and set up?" As for crew, I send the essential ones to the location and the rest I recruit from the local affiliates.
You seem to be missing the overarching point, which is "this all has SOME extra expense, which by definition is always more than NO extra expense, and for virtually no return on the investment." If I'm making budget cuts (or hell, just looking to maximize my profits, which is the job of any publicly-held company), that's the FIRST sort of expense that gets the axe.
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I have rented a moving truck, yes it's not inexpensive I'll give you that. As for movers and venue, (going off my example) "Hey Northwestern, you want us to showcase your campus and college for the next 3 weeks to millions of people? How about giving us a deal on using your ampitheatre and use of your workers to unload and set up?" As for crew, I send the essential ones to the location and the rest I recruit from the local affiliates.
You seem to be missing the overarching point, which is "this all has SOME extra expense, which by definition is always more than NO extra expense, and for virtually no return on the investment." If I'm making budget cuts (or hell, just looking to maximize my profits, which is the job of any publicly-held company), that's the FIRST sort of expense that gets the axe.
I'm saying, the main point of these traveling shows is to bring buzz and promote the show in a different way. I'm questioning whether it was worth staying home, but losing the potential marketing value of promoting the show by traveling.
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I'm saying, the main point of these traveling shows is to bring buzz and promote the show in a different way. I'm questioning whether it was worth staying home, but losing the potential marketing value of promoting the show by traveling.
Understood, which is why I am questioning the return on the investment. These are not two shows that really need that sort of promotion; they seem to be doing just fine and dandy without it. You can't tell me you're more or less likely to watch based on whether or not they do these road trips, because I'm pretty sure you are glued to the set regardless. So why should they pay for it?
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I'm saying, the main point of these traveling shows is to bring buzz and promote the show in a different way. I'm questioning whether it was worth staying home, but losing the potential marketing value of promoting the show by traveling.
Understood, which is why I am questioning the return on the investment. These are not two shows that really need that sort of promotion; they seem to be doing just fine and dandy without it. You can't tell me you're more or less likely to watch based on whether or not they do these road trips, because I'm pretty sure you are glued to the set regardless. So why should they pay for it?
Touché, because I don't really notice it with J! or WoF, but all the time the reaction I hear when I talk about WWTBAM is, "That show's still on the air?!?"
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Touché, because I don't really notice it with J! or WoF, but all the time the reaction I hear when I talk about WWTBAM is, "That show's still on the air?!?"
Yeah, to use your anecdote about WWTBAM as evidence is just a ridiculous fallacy. You're not even talking about the same GALAXY as J! and WoF.
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Touché, because I don't really notice it with J! or WoF, but all the time the reaction I hear when I talk about WWTBAM is, "That show's still on the air?!?"
Yeah, to use your anecdote about WWTBAM as evidence is just a ridiculous fallacy. You're not even talking about the same GALAXY as J! and WoF.
But God bless Meredith, she's trying.
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Touché, because I don't really notice it with J! or WoF, but all the time the reaction I hear when I talk about WWTBAM is, "That show's still on the air?!?"
Yeah, to use your anecdote about WWTBAM as evidence is just a ridiculous fallacy. You're not even talking about the same GALAXY as J! and WoF.
But God bless Meredith, she's trying.
I agree with you. She has the same energy if not more in her 10th season as host than in her 1st. She is wonderful.
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I agree with you. She has the same energy if not more in her 10th season as host than in her 1st. She is wonderful.
Not suggesting she's not doing a fine job. I'm just pointing out what a ridiculous juggernaut J! and Wheel are in that arena.
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I agree with you. She has the same energy if not more in her 10th season as host than in her 1st. She is wonderful.
Not suggesting she's not doing a fine job. I'm just pointing out what a ridiculous juggernaut J! and Wheel are in that arena.
Gotcha. Thank you, man.
Is it me or does it not seem like close to 10 years has gone by since Meredith began hosting WWBTAM? Time is flying!
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According to this link, Pat Kiernan's dream job would be hosting Jeopardy!
Interview with Pat Kiernan (http://"http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/pat-kiernan")
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I, for one, would have no objection to that.
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Let's make this happen.
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Let's make this happen.
You know I'm ready to accept that challenge. (http://www.english.illinois.edu/-people-/faculty/debaron/wolimages/connery.jpg)
/And I'll make sure you'll see me doing your mother as well