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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Jumpondees on December 01, 2003, 06:20:59 PM
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I know a few members here have a bit of doubt when it comes to information posted over at one Mr. Beverly's website....but it seems that he's pulling the "speculationmobile" out just in time for the holidays...
Today, S.B. has a blurb at the top of his page devoted to the start of Lingo's new season tonight...At the bottom of this "article" (and I use the term "article" very liberally), comes this blurb...
"Game Show Network senior programming vice president Bob Boden said last week GSN will have "a major announcement" later this month, which will likely affect its 2004 program schedule."
So...Who here would like to fire the first shot??
I could use a good laugh today, and somehow I can always find a humorous quip or two from many of our esteemed panel.
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I'll bet 40 chips it's an aquisition of The Chamber, Jack. [sarcasm meter explodes]
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They're in negotiations with God to extend the day to 500 hours to accomodate everyones' dream schedules?
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I think it's a name change, but I have suspicions that it might be more major than that.
We can all pretty much guess what the "likely affect it's 2004 program schedule" means. They've been shifting further and further away from game shows (classics especially) this past year and I have a BAD feeling that it's about to get even worse.
Start those VCRs and get as much as you can on tape while you can...I see "GamesTV" or some crap like that in our futures.
UGH
ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
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I'm thinking reruns of "Illinois Instant Riches".......
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Well, I'm going to point out the obvious and take a look at the possible possibilities...
Acquisition of the Reg Grundy Library
Acquisition of TPIR
Acquisition of somthing else (Game show related)
Second satellite feed
New original
Renewal of current original
Schedule Change
Nixing of B&W Overnight in favor of more paid programming (Or vise versa)
Acquisition of more Game Related Programming
Name Change
I'll try to be optimistic and prey that this will be a good move. Personally, I've had enough game related programming to last a lifetime already.
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The launch of a new diginet?
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TPiR is running high
RR deadline is up
Whammy! deadline is up
i think those 3 are gonna be addressed most likely. im hoping RR and W! get renewed, and TPiR comes to the network.
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[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Dec 1 2003, 06:56 PM\'] I think it's a name change, but I have suspicions that it might be more major than that.
We can all pretty much guess what the "likely affect it's 2004 program schedule" means. They've been shifting further and further away from game shows (classics especially) this past year and I have a BAD feeling that it's about to get even worse.
Start those VCRs and get as much as you can on tape while you can...I see "GamesTV" or some crap like that in our futures.
UGH
ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com [/quote]
You are so far off that's its not funny.
Look at the schedule and tell me that they are not showing more classics, as opposed to originals.
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[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Dec 1 2003, 06:56 PM\'] I think it's a name change, but I have suspicions that it might be more major than that.
We can all pretty much guess what the "likely affect it's 2004 program schedule" means. They've been shifting further and further away from game shows (classics especially) this past year and I have a BAD feeling that it's about to get even worse.
Start those VCRs and get as much as you can on tape while you can...I see "GamesTV" or some crap like that in our futures.
UGH
ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com [/quote]
Could you give any evidence that there will be a name change? I have heard nothing to suggest such a thing, and the switch to more "game related" programming wouldn't require a name change. They've invested too much in PR in the past two years to change a name, I'd think.
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Dec 1 2003, 09:56 PM\'] Could you give any evidence that there will be a name change? I have heard nothing to suggest such a thing, and the switch to more "game related" programming wouldn't require a name change. They've invested too much in PR in the past two years to change a name, I'd think. [/quote]
They already did a sort of unofficial name change (from "Game Show Network" to "GSN")...they could choose to drop the former and just go with the acronym.
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I think it's going to most likely be either the return of "Cram" and/or some new original, including possibly the "Blackjack" one. I wouldn't get hopes up of seeing "Scrabble," "$ale," or TPIR just yet, but don't completely oppress them; who would've thought GSN would've given us "Bullseye," even if it was only two eps., last Thursday?
I'm a little excited to see what it'll be, but I won't be surprised if my original sentence is the correct one (I can't see a name change just yet because they really haven't gotten away from the game show part of it yet; the video game block tanked, remember?).
Anthony
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[quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Dec 1 2003, 07:36 PM\'] They already did a sort of unofficial name change (from "Game Show Network" to "GSN")...they could choose to drop the former and just go with the acronym. [/quote]
Makes sense; we've been calling it GSN since the beginning!
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I have this feeling that the news will have more to do with shows like "Naturally Stoned" than like "Russian Roulette." I'd be happy to be wrong, though.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' date=\'Dec 1 2003, 11:42 PM\'] I have this feeling that the news will have more to do with shows like "Naturally Stoned" than like "Russian Roulette." I'd be happy to be wrong, though. [/quote]
What's next: Jimmy Pardo or Graham Elwood, Naturally semi-Stoned :) Though a Trebek Naturally Stoned-like special would be a hoot. Even Todd Newton would be good, though we'd have to endure a certain professor making guest appearances :)
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It's remarkable how many of these guesses wouldn't qualify in the slightest as a major announcement which will have an effect on the 2004 schedule.
My money would be on a major acquisition, probably TPIR. I further predict that within an hour of finding out which episodes they've picked up, half a dozen of you will complain that they should have chosen different ones.
(For the record, I counted at least ten DIFFERENT members complaining to one degree or another about the Bullseye episodes they showed. You guys refused to be satisfied.)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 09:34 AM\'] I further predict that within an hour of finding out which episodes they've picked up, half a dozen of you will complain that they should have chosen different ones.
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I'll take it a step further and suggest that AFTER the bitching and moaning, what said acquistion starts airing, those SAME half-dozen will be clawing all over each other to be the first to post spoilers on asinine minutae or write bad recaps.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 11:34 AM\'] It's remarkable how many of these guesses wouldn't qualify in the slightest as a major announcement which will have an effect on the 2004 schedule.
My money would be on a major acquisition, probably TPIR. I further predict that within an hour of finding out which episodes they've picked up, half a dozen of you will complain that they should have chosen different ones.
(For the record, I counted at least ten DIFFERENT members complaining to one degree or another about the Bullseye episodes they showed. You guys refused to be satisfied.) [/quote]
You hit the nail on the head, Matt.
That's exactly my thinking, too - if TPiR ever DOES come back to the GSN schedule, inevitably there will probably be a limited number of episodes, and the bitching continues ad nauseum.
As I've said before, I'm from the side that is just glad to *have* a network...Even if it's episodes that are run through the cycle over and over again...
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You are so far off that's its not funny.
Possibly correct, but the thread did suggest speculation. I have a feeling that this might be something more major than an aquisition, but we will see.
GSN has finally acquired some name recognition, so a name change would be stupid IMO, but I'm saying that it is within the realm of possibility...even if they just start calling it "GSN" as opposed to "Game Show Network". Hey...maybe the screen bug will be smaller! :-D
Look at the schedule and tell me that they are not showing more classics, as opposed to originals.
I didn't say that the balance of originals was higher...I said they've been shifting more and more towards non-classic stuff. There are lots of new originals and non-traditional game shows airing on the network now as opposed to two years ago when it was 95% classic.
GSN has been very upfront about wanting to explore more non-traditional shows. I just think this "major" announcement might be something along those lines.
ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 11:34 AM\'] It's remarkable how many of these guesses wouldn't qualify in the slightest as a major announcement which will have an effect on the 2004 schedule.
My money would be on a major acquisition, probably TPIR. I further predict that within an hour of finding out which episodes they've picked up, half a dozen of you will complain that they should have chosen different ones.
(For the record, I counted at least ten DIFFERENT members complaining to one degree or another about the Bullseye episodes they showed. You guys refused to be satisfied.) [/quote]
If it's anything post 1991, I'll bet you will hear a lot more complaining.
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My money would be on a major acquisition, probably TPIR. I further predict that within an hour of finding out which episodes they've picked up, half a dozen of you will complain that they should have chosen different ones.
Steve had noted last week Bob Boden had said CBS is very protective of TPIR; they're the stumbling block, not Fremantle, from what I gather. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
But at the same time, what else could it be? Except for us megageeks, very few people are going to care if the Grundy titles are acquired. Unless it's a long-assumed "lost treasure" (the original Fleming run of Jeopardy? Split Second? Concentration?), I can't imagine what else it might be. (New programming doesn't seem to qualify.)
I guess I like speculating too.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 01:35 PM\']
Steve had noted last week Bob Boden had said CBS is very protective of TPIR; they're the stumbling block, not Fremantle, from what I gather. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
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I have a funny feeling it's TPiR....
I know what Boden had said, but my mind is veering off course and thinking of events in the news, and in sports, and when people don't confirm something.
Like last year, when Bill Parcells expressed no interest in coaching the Dallas Cowboys, (and was quoted as such), and look where he is now.
I think that GSN is pretty close to a deal with TPiR; it's just that neither of the two sides will confirm or deny.
And I too like speculation like this. :)
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GSN has a history of harmless little white lies to throw the faithful off the scent. If Bob Boden knew that TPIR negotiations were in the final stages and he didn't want to tell Steve Beverly that, a vague reference to stumbling blocks (as opposed to a firm denial) would be the approach to take.
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I will predict same day repurposing of TPIR in primetime (10pm Eastern, 7 Pacific)
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 02:38 PM\'] I will predict same day repurposing of TPIR in primetime (10pm Eastern, 7 Pacific) [/quote]
I think it will be classics that will air at 10pm (of TPiR), but repurposing is definitely not a bad idea.
I think something significant is definitely headed for the 10pm timeslot....We can't have the new 65 episodes of Lingo burned in a month...
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 11:35 AM\'] I guess I like speculating too. [/quote]
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\' Dec 2 2003, 11:46 AM\']And I too like speculation like this. :) [/quote]
And there is not a thing wrong with speculation, so long as you're not setting yourself up for a fall. The problem is, the major speculators around here (and I'm not naming names, most of you could prolly compile a list that would be 90% accurate with mine) are the first ones screaming when they end up being wrong, or the first ones to berate GSN when they predict bad news and end up being right. If you're reasonable about it, and just leave it on a speculatory level, then more power to you.
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\' Dec 2 2003, 11:53 AM\']If Bob Boden knew that TPIR negotiations were in the final stages and he didn't want to tell Steve Beverly that, [/quote]
...my respect for him would increase that much more. :)
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...my respect for him would increase that much more. :)
For who?
Boden or Beverly?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Dec 1 2003, 07:23 PM\'] I'm thinking reruns of "Illinois Instant Riches"....... [/quote]
Nah; gotta be the first season of Ohio's "Cash Explosion" (before the Double Play format)/.
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How many of you want to bet (now that I just saw the thread) that it's simply the debut of "Games Across America?" It's a major announcement (to GSN, anyway), and it will affect the 2004 program schedule (starting January 3rd!).
I could be wrong, of course, but I'm willing to bet this is what Boden was alluding to.
Anthony
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 02:38 PM\'] I will predict same day repurposing of TPIR in primetime (10pm Eastern, 7 Pacific) [/quote]
Good idea, J.O. Makes tons of sense. In that case they may also get the catalog back.
But the NBC "Classic Concentration" vibe is also real strong. I got the gut it'll either be TPIR or Conc.
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[quote name=\'Robair\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 08:21 PM\']
But the NBC "Classic Concentration" vibe is also real strong. I got the gut it'll either be TPIR or Conc. [/quote]
A stronger but less likely(unfortunately) vibe would be for the Jack Narz Concentration shows to come out of hiding.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 11:34 AM\'] It's remarkable how many of these guesses wouldn't qualify in the slightest as a major announcement which will have an effect on the 2004 schedule.
My money would be on a major acquisition, probably TPIR. I further predict that within an hour of finding out which episodes they've picked up, half a dozen of you will complain that they should have chosen different ones.
(For the record, I counted at least ten DIFFERENT members complaining to one degree or another about the Bullseye episodes they showed. You guys refused to be satisfied.) [/quote]
Very true. My thoughts are the loss of the Goodson library again. But, just pure speculation.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 08:28 PM\'] [quote name=\'Robair\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 08:21 PM\']
But the NBC "Classic Concentration" vibe is also real strong. I got the gut it'll either be TPIR or Conc. [/quote]
A stronger but less likely(unfortunately) vibe would be for the Jack Narz Concentration shows to come out of hiding. [/quote]
It's not Concentration
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 04:13 PM\'] For who?
Boden or Beverly? [/quote]
For my respect to increase, I would have had to have some to start with. Guess which one I had respect for to start with.
HINT: Not Beverly.
[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\' Dec 2 2003, 05:37 PM\']How many of you want to bet (now that I just saw the thread) that it's simply the debut of "Games Across America?" It's a major announcement (to GSN, anyway), and it will affect the 2004 program schedule (starting January 3rd!).[/quote]
Yeah, Saturday night interstitial bits constitute a MAJOR programming change. Come ON.
[quote name=\'SimpsonGeek\' date=\' Dec 2 2003, 07:04 PM\']It's not Concentration[/quote]
I trust you would know this because you work at NBC?
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[quote name=\'Card Shark\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 08:45 PM\'] Very true. My thoughts are the loss of the Goodson library again. But, just pure speculation. [/quote]
Unless MG and FF were negotiated separately, I don't see this happening...
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 2 2003, 09:47 PM\'] [quote name=\'SimpsonGeek\' date=\' Dec 2 2003, 07:04 PM\']It's not Concentration[/quote]
I trust you would know this because you work at NBC? [/quote]
Yep, and we seem to be VERY protective of the show