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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: weaklink75 on August 10, 2010, 10:31:17 PM
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Per Buzzerblog... (http://\"http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/gsn-revives-1-vs-100/\")
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This kinda reminds me of the time Press Your Luck and Chain Reaction were revived as cable originals in 2002 and 1986 respectively, due to the popularity of the respective original versions that were playing in reruns.
Unfortunately, almost every single original, since Bob Boden left, I found to be very disappointing.
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It's "1 vs. 4"!
/...to start
//You win $17 if you eliminate that Mob.
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[quote name=\'Thunder\' post=\'245698\' date=\'Aug 10 2010, 11:07 PM\']It's "1 vs. 4"!
/...to start
//You win $17 if you eliminate that Mob.[/quote]
Appearing in "The Mob" tonight in seat number 2 1/2 is former game show host and <Sarcasm> all around good guy </Sarcasm> Rossi Morriale.
Now, normally if you lose to the mob, you go home with nothing, but Rossi has been generous enough to supply you with "lots of love" should he collect your winnings tonight.
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Sounds like fun...1 vs. 100 was probably the only Endemol USA show I actually enjoyed. Somewhere in the back of my mind, I'm toying with the idea of making a trip to LA to try out.
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If GSN is doing it, the top prize will NOT be $1 million. Maybe $100K. I will watch it though. If they get Bob and the original writers back, all the better.
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'245711\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 05:48 AM\']If GSN is doing it, the top prize will NOT be $1 million. Maybe $100K.[/quote]
Did anyone ever WIN the million on the original show? It doesn't matter what top prize you advertise, if the average actual payout is within your budget.
(Budgetarily, anyhow. We've gone over the turn-off factor of advertising a top prize that is virtually impossible to win.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'245730\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 01:29 PM\']Did anyone ever WIN the million on the original show?[/quote]Yes. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYS9N72zP8o\") I don't think I ever saw a One walk away with their winnings with less than a six-figure amount, either.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'245732\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 10:33 AM\']I don't think I ever saw a One walk away with their winnings with less than a six-figure amount, either.[/quote]
And the point that the money gets paid out regardless, either to the One or the Mob, is a valid one, too. If someone runs up even 250K, that's coming out of the budget one way or the other.
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I also think GSN's jackpot for the show will be 100 grand.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'245733\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 12:39 PM\']And the point that the money gets paid out regardless, either to the One or the Mob, is a valid one, too. If someone runs up even 250K, that's coming out of the budget one way or the other.[/quote]
I was just never big on The One getting to walk away with ALL of their winnings, and the Mob basically getting nothing for scaring the contestant off. I could see them having to split their bank with the Mob should they want to cop out- isn't that the way the British version did it?
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I thought Britain did it like everywhere else <> US/AUS, that you had to wipe out the Mob to win any money.
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I'm thinking $250,000 might work for a top prize- not a complete budget-buster, but still a decent amount. It depends on what kind of money tree they use:
If they go with the first season ladder (which I prefer):
Q1-3- $250 per KO
Q4-5- $500 per KO
Q6- $750 per KO
Q7- $1,000 per KO
Q8- $1,250 per KO
Q9- $1,500 per KO
Q10-$1,750 per KO
Q11-$2,000 per KO
Q12-$2,250 per KO
Q13+-$2,500 per KO
(using this tree, if you say knocked out 10 players per question for the first 9 questions, then the total after 90 KO's would be $62,500- and that's a high number since a lot more of the Mob would be knocked out in the first few questions. The average amounts would probably be in the $25K-$30K range).
If they go with the 2nd season ladder:
10 out-$1,000
20 out-$2,500
30 out-$5,000
40 out-$10,000
50 out-$20,000
60 out-$30,000
70 out-$40,000
80 out-$50,000
90 out-$100,000
100 out-$250,000
I'm thinking going with the first season money tree is cheaper for them in the long run...
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245746\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 04:15 PM\']I thought Britain did it like everywhere else <> US/AUS, that you had to wipe out the Mob to win any money.[/quote]
They did in the UK (but if the One knocked out the 100 on an question they didn't use a dodge on, they could bail with the money accumulated or risk it on the last answer being right to win a £50,000 bonus). A lot of the other European versions followed the US rules as well.
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I can't see GSN offering $250K, even for a weekly show. I'm guessing $50 or 100K, with a shorter tree and lower amounts...$100 for the first three questions, $250 for questions four and five, $500, for six and seven, then $1,000 from there on out.
Honestly, I'd just do $250 or 500 for the first 50 knocked out, then double for each of the remaining 50. But, I guess that could get a little pedestrian after awhile.
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'245750\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 09:25 PM\']They did in the UK (but if the One knocked out the 100 on an question they didn't use a dodge on, they could bail with the money accumulated or risk it on the last answer being right to win a £50,000 bonus). A lot of the other European versions followed the US rules as well.[/quote]
And, well, none of them lasted very long, whereas the versions that followed the Dutch ruleset have been much more successful. many still going. I have a feeling a GSN version would be more Dutch, but I also think that having been spoiled by the big money network version it won't go down too well.
An interesting dilemma indeed.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'245755\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 05:09 PM\'][quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'245750\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 09:25 PM\']They did in the UK (but if the One knocked out the 100 on an question they didn't use a dodge on, they could bail with the money accumulated or risk it on the last answer being right to win a £50,000 bonus). A lot of the other European versions followed the US rules as well.[/quote]
And, well, none of them lasted very long, whereas the versions that followed the Dutch ruleset have been much more successful. many still going. I have a feeling a GSN version would be more Dutch, but I also think that having been spoiled by the big money network version it won't go down too well.
An interesting dilemma indeed.
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For me, regardless of the money setup, 1 vs 100 is a good game, which is why I played every night the XBOX 360 version, and which is why I'll watch either way. I am of the agreement though that GSN's history of being a low budget network would go with some variation of the Dutch rules.
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Well, XBox 1vs100 was alright (I thought it did a lot right, but it did other things quite poorly), but I think losing 80-90% of players over two eight week runs (admittedly UK numbers) is quite telling.
GSN should just do a version of Everybody's Equal on the 1 vs 100 set.
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My idea for a complex, yet simple payout is this: Final winnings=Top Prize/(1+Mob left)
So if there's a $200,000 top prize and there are 79 people left, the offer would be $2,500, 39 people left would be $5,000, etc.
I think this allows for a higher-than-normal top prize while working within normal budget constraints.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'245799\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 10:24 AM\']My idea for a complex, yet simple payout[/quote]
I stopped reading right here.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'245800\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 01:30 PM\'][quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'245799\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 10:24 AM\']My idea for a complex, yet simple payout[/quote]
I stopped reading right here.
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Then hope they don't go with the system they use in the original Netherlands version:
Each question is worth €50,000. That is divided by the number of Mob members still in play, and that is what the player earns for each knockout (so the first question with 100 Mob members, each knockout is worth €500. With 50 Mob members left, each knockout is worth €1,000. and so on). Instead of the Trust/Poll/Ask helps, they have 3 skips, which they can only use after the first question.When they use a skip, they earn no money for knockouts, plus lose money from their bank. The first skip costs 25% of the current bank. The 2nd costs 50%, and the 3rd 75%. They can also elect to double the value of one question when they answer. It's all or nothing- they can't stop.
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'245803\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 01:10 PM\']Then hope they don't go with the system they use in the original Netherlands version:[/quote]
I strongly suspect they won't.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'245732\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 01:33 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'245730\' date=\'Aug 11 2010, 01:29 PM\']Did anyone ever WIN the million on the original show?[/quote]Yes. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYS9N72zP8o\") I don't think I ever saw a One walk away with their winnings with less than a six-figure amount, either.
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I'll apologize in advance for this being a fairly dumb uninformed question.
In the episode cited above, what would have happened if the all of the remaining mob members and the contestant had picked the wrong answer? No money awarded at all?
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'245803\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 04:10 PM\']Then hope they don't go with the system they use in the original Netherlands version:
Each question is worth €50,000. That is divided by the number of Mob members still in play, and that is what the player earns for each knockout (so the first question with 100 Mob members, each knockout is worth €500. With 50 Mob members left, each knockout is worth €1,000. and so on).[/quote]
I had to read that a couple of times to get that. I suspect Bob Saget or whoever they pick up won't have a lot of time to break that down to the viewer, and then you end up with this. Not only that, but to me, saying a question's worth 50K when it technically isn't kinda reeks of something IMO.
JIM BOB: "Hey Cletus, that Full House guy said the question's worth $50,000...why'd he only get $3,500?"
CLETUS: "I dunno...what's on Judge Judy?"
Not only that, but they had a method that worked on NBC...I don't see why they should alter it that much, except to reduce the values of the multipliers.
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[quote name=\'irwinsjournal.com\' post=\'245805\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 04:20 PM\']In the episode cited above, what would have happened if the all of the remaining mob members and the contestant had picked the wrong answer? No money awarded at all?[/quote]That's right. The official rule bible (http://\"http://www.nbc.com/casting/Applications/1v100_rules.pdf\") mentions this in a scenario relating to the Ask the Mob lifeline:
If The Player decides to use “Ask the Mob” and all eligible Mob members chose the same answer, The Player will only hear from the first eligible Mob member. The Host will inform The Player that the remaining eligible Mob members chose the same answer and describe four possibilities:
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2) If The Player chooses the same answer and it is wrong, the game is over for the Player and all Mob members—no prize money will be awarded for that game.
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I was never a massive fan of the NBC system. If you get to (for example) $150k and there are still 15 Mob members left who have got to that point because they're good enough to get every single answer right, who in their right mind would gamble their entire winnings on one more question that's only really likely to offer a $10-20k return? It is generally never great design to have a structure that encourages people to quit.
And if you're in the mob, that's basically a massively thankless task anyway.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'245808\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 04:33 PM\']I was never a massive fan of the NBC system. If you get to (for example) $150k and there are still 15 Mob members left who have got to that point because they're good enough to get every single answer right, who in their right mind would gamble their entire winnings on one more question that's only really likely to offer a $10-20k return? It is generally never great design to have a structure that encourages people to quit.[/quote]
While I don't disagree, I'm not a big fan of the all-or-nothing system, esp. with life-changing amounts of money. To me, I feel that a contestant should receive some sort of reward for the questions you did answer correctly, whether it was with help or without.
Do any countries allow contestants to walk but with deducted winnings? Perhaps offer something along those lines, where you still have to answer the first three, and the deduction is based on what question level you reach, i.e. 40% after level 1, 30% for level 2, 20% for level 3, etc. Like with Millionaire, if you don't make it past the first tier, then you get nothing, and that first level would be the only safety net. At least with a big deduction, there's still a reward for the questions, but there's also some risk for playing on.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245809\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 09:48 PM\']Do any countries allow contestants to walk but with deducted winnings?[/quote]
Actually there has been - in France, you could walk away after seeing the question and leave with 25% of your bank, with the other 75% being split between the remaining members of the mob. Although I believe the One also split his money with a home viewer as was the rage with TF1 shows of the period, and the question values started at €100 and increased very slowly, so the bank was never going to get overly massive and the top prize of €200,000 looks like it's worth going for. The Mob got to stay the whole week (it was a daily strip) as well.
As a structure I quite like that in that the utility makes the top prize usually worth going for (11 winners across three seasons, according to Wikipedia) and it enfranchises the mob a lot more (small wins granted, but more likely, and you don't get chucked out the door the first time you misstep).
I don't think this is by any means perfect, but I do think it's a step in the right direction.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245809\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 04:48 PM\']Do any countries allow contestants to walk but with deducted winnings?[/quote]
French version (based on NBC rules) allowed contestants to walkaway with 25% of their accumulated winnings , should they elect to quit after seeing question/answers.
/Actually, it was more like 12.5% - since money was split with an home viewer, in traditional TF1 gameshow fashion
//AFAIK, the remaining 75% were NOT given to the Mob
As long i'm talking of the french version , it had a 100/150/200/250/300/350/400/500/600/700/1000€ chain (advance after each question) - top prize 200,000€ . Contestants hardly achived to accumulate more than 25,000€ during their run.
Divide all values that i provided there in half - you may have a good version.
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[quote name=\'Setsunael\' post=\'245811\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 11:02 PM\']//AFAIK, the remaining 75% were NOT given to the Mob[/quote]
The French Wiki article (http://\"http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_contre_100\") seems to suggest they do, but I'm happy to take your word over theirs!
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'245810\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 04:56 PM\']Actually there has been - in France, you could walk away after seeing the question and leave with 25% of your bank, with the other 75% being split between the remaining members of the mob.[/quote]
Didn't the US version have this rule? (But was never implemented, so all mentions were edited out, IIRC)
Anyway, here's my idea for a 1 vs. 100 format:
Top prize of $25,000. $100 per eliminated mob member. The One keeps whatever money accumulated, win or lose. The next contestant is randomly selected from the surviving mob members. (If they're all knocked out, all 100 are eligible)
This way, the One can go for the jackpot with no risk/pressure and the Mob has motivation to keep playing.
What do you think sirs?
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I've seen much worse ideas. Especially if you were to do that stripped daily.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'245812\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 06:08 PM\'][quote name=\'Setsunael\' post=\'245811\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 11:02 PM\']//AFAIK, the remaining 75% were NOT given to the Mob[/quote]
The French Wiki article (http://\"http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_contre_100\") seems to suggest they do, but I'm happy to take your word over theirs!
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Yep - but I really remember moments where the Mob was seriously booing contestants leaving with the 25% - and no mention of money for the mob . Maybe it was changed later in the run , too.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'245814\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 05:20 PM\']I've seen much worse ideas. Especially if you were to do that stripped daily.[/quote]
That's what I had in mind, yes.
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[quote name=\'Brig Bother\' post=\'245808\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 04:33 PM\']I was never a massive fan of the NBC system. If you get to (for example) $150k and there are still 15 Mob members left who have got to that point because they're good enough to get every single answer right, who in their right mind would gamble their entire winnings on one more question that's only really likely to offer a $10-20k return? It is generally never great design to have a structure that encourages people to quit.[/quote]
Exactly!!!! That's why I liked the most recent format, where eliminating every 10 people increased your winnings.
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I welcome the return of the series.
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If knowing is half the battle, then wild speculation is half of the fun in this forum ;)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245806\' date=\'Aug 12 2010, 04:25 PM\']JIM BOB: "Hey Cletus, <INSERT INANE QUESTION BASED ON PRIOR POST HERE>
CLETUS: "I dunno...what's on Judge Judy?"[/quote]
Gee...I've seen this fish up close before...LOL
Here's my take. I would take a variation of the NBC rules and the Dutch rules. This would keep the game familiar to those who know it, and possibly keep payouts low for a cheap network like GSN.
First off, there would be no walk-offs, either The One eliminates The Mob and takes home the money in their bank, or The Mob splits whatever is in The One's bank when they bomb out.
Top Prize would be $100k. To get there, a contestant must clear each Mob member at $500 each ($50,000) and if they do that, they get a $50k bonus.
(No complicated formula here, just a straight dollar value for each eliminated mob member + a bonus for clearing them all)
To get to the 100k, would require The One to knock out all 100 mob members without using one of three "helps" that can be purchased for 50% of whatever is in the bank at that time.
(This combines the NBC "helps" with the Dutch "Dodges")
The helps would be:
Trust The Mob
--Same as before, The One is committed to the most popular answer in The Mob
Poll The Mob
--Same as before, The One picks an answer choice and then sees how many mob members picked that answer, then has the chance to ask one of the mob members that selected said answer to explain why.
Then I would add a new "help", and that would be the "Free Pass", which would allow The One to skip the question and eliminate any incorrect mob responses, but no money from mob eliminations would be added to the bank for that question.
Now, I don't see this show coming back in anything less than a 60 minute format, and I can't imagine GSN doing this show more than once a week, but should they decide to be adventurous and go Monday-Friday. I would suggest going the Syndie DOND route, or maybe a better example would be Jackpot!, and play with the same 101 people (Mob +1) all week, allowing The One to go into The Mob at the end of their game to continue to play for extra cash, but once someone has had a turn as The One during their week, they cannot be selected for that again.
I think what I've laid out pretty much keeps the original NBC game intact but with a few small rules tweaks to customize it to a cable-net budget. I'd be open to suggestions if there are any.
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Not sure what I think about the rest of your proposal, but this:
[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'245877\' date=\'Aug 13 2010, 07:16 PM\'][M]aybe a better example would be Jackpot!, and play with the same 101 people (Mob +1) all week, allowing The One to go into The Mob at the end of their game to continue to play for extra cash, but once someone has had a turn as The One during their week, they cannot be selected for that again.[/quote]
is brilliant!
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Remember the acronym: 'KISS' - Keep It Strictly Simple
I would go back to the 2nd format from Season 1, which many people (including myself) liked, before they went to the Season 2 (money-for-every-10-out) format. Just divide the prize values by 10.
First three questions - $100/head
Next two questions - $200/head
Every question thereafter - $300/head, up to $1,000 (questions 13 & beyond).
$100,000 Grand Prize for eliminating all 100.
Keep the 'Helps' as they were: Trust the Mob, Poll the Mob, and Ask the Mob.
A 'Sneak Peek' at the question (but not the answers) will be available, if the 'Mob' is dwindled down to 10 or fewer AND all 3 'Helps' have been used.
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I'm in the process of filling out the application form. It says something that the casting director only wants California residents. Is this just something the website lists for every casting call (and can thus be ignored), or are they serious about this?
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[quote name=\'phvHounds2010\' post=\'245905\' date=\'Aug 14 2010, 10:48 PM\']I'm in the process of filling out the application form. It says something that the casting director only wants California residents. Is this just something the website lists for every casting call (and can thus be ignored), or are they serious about this?[/quote]
Likely they are asking for this because they don't want to have to deal with coordinating with out-of-state people for taping / tryouts / etc.
Seems to me that it costs you nothing to fill out the form, depending on how you value your time, and since you're home on a Saturday night filling it out, you might as well finish the job.
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My idea for a complex, yet simple payout is this: Final winnings=Top Prize/(1+Mob left)
While I could eventually calculate the prize per mob member, I don't buy "complex yet simple". You get one or the other.
JIM BOB: "Hey Cletus, that Full House guy said the question's worth $50,000...why'd he only get $3,500?"
CLETUS: "I dunno...what's on Judge Judy?"
Challenge flag, tired of the meme.
If you want to do the thing where you earn more money for taking out bigger chunks of the mob per time (you get paid more for knocking out 90% of the survivors than for 9%) that's fine, just put up the value on screen, say "you knocked out whatever percent of the mob, whatever percent of $10,000 is $whatever, so we add that to your bank, you have $bank. Money or the mob?" Take the having to do math away from the audience, and they'll just accept what the screen text says.
The thing that most bugged me about the show is that it seemed like the Mob were treated as chattel, and just there to be cut down. When I hear that tapings take several hours, and the first few episodes are used as beta-testing for various format changes, I don't like it. I don't like the One is chosen because he or she is the most vivacious, or outgoing bugged me. (witness the One for the 1 vs. 100 Kids episode)
If I'm king of the world, I allow mob members to return for another game until they're wrong three times. The One is chosen from however many survivors are left. You must knock out the entire mob to take home any money. I'll leave the lifelines and how to dole out the money to people who are more interested in that angle than I am.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245919\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 12:07 PM\']Take the having to do math away from the audience, and they'll just accept what the screen text says.[/quote]
Except they won't. If you flash a number up on screen, and people can't figure out how that number was arrived at themselves, they have no investment in it.
And that's good news...for Judge Judy.
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[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'245877\' date=\'Aug 13 2010, 07:16 PM\']First off, there would be no walk-offs, either The One eliminates The Mob and takes home the money in their bank, or The Mob splits whatever is in The One's bank when they bomb out.[/quote]
I have a problem with this. The old way stilts the game way too much in favor of The One, since s/he can bail out and The Mob gets nothing except the opportunity to return (so The One would have to be a real idjit to not walk away with any money). This way stilts the game way too much in favor of The Mob, since The One can't bail out and gets nothing even if he answers 15 questions in a row with, say, only one Mob member matching him question for question (before tripping up on #16).
Perhaps a penalty fee for a bailout would make it work--say 10%. So if The One has $40,000, it costs him $4,000 of that to bail (which would be split by the surviving Mob members, who again would be able to return).
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'245932\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 07:14 PM\']Perhaps a penalty fee for a bailout would make it work--say 10%. So if The One has $40,000, it costs him $4,000 of that to bail (which would be split by the surviving Mob members, who again would be able to return).[/quote]That's a mighty low insurance policy to keep someone around.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245933\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 09:30 PM\'][quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'245932\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 07:14 PM\']Perhaps a penalty fee for a bailout would make it work--say 10%. So if The One has $40,000, it costs him $4,000 of that to bail (which would be split by the surviving Mob members, who again would be able to return).[/quote]That's a mighty low insurance policy to keep someone around.
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True. 20% or even 25% would be more ideal, but then we start dealing with math and Judge Judy. :)
50% would be easier as far as math goes, but that would prolly be too high.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'245938\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 08:02 PM\']True. 20% or even 25% would be more ideal, but then we start dealing with math and Judge Judy. :)[/quote] Oh dear, and we can't have that, can we.
50% would be easier as far as math goes, but that would prolly be too high.
So here's something. What if the One is allowed to use an Escape to skip a question, but the money that is deducted from his account is paid to the surviving Mob members?
What if the game was not so much about a David and Goliath struggle where there must be one side that is victorious? What if several people can win money in a particular game? Sure, it doesn't fit into the current memes of what a game show ought to be, but I think game shows would be better for breaking out of that box.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245939\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 08:24 PM\']Oh dear, and we can't have that, can we.[/quote]
Since the goal is for people to CONTINUE to watch our show: no, we can't.
What if the game was not so much about a David and Goliath struggle where there must be one side that is victorious? What if several people can win money in a particular game?
Then the game would no longer be 1 vs. 100, it would be 1 and 100 Answer Questions And Some Might Lose.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'245940\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 08:34 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245939\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 08:24 PM\']Oh dear, and we can't have that, can we.[/quote]Since the goal is for people to CONTINUE to watch our show: no, we can't.[/quote] It is not my problem if you can't understand that I was trying to goof around with Doug.
What if the game was not so much about a David and Goliath struggle where there must be one side that is victorious? What if several people can win money in a particular game?
Then the game would no longer be 1 vs. 100, it would be 1 and 100 Answer Questions And Some Might Lose.
Which is what they had anyway. Some number of people would end up winning money, some wouldn't. I've enumerated the things I didn't like about the Original Recipe of American 1 vs. 100, and I hope they fix as many of them as possible. if they don't, I still have the choice to watch or to not watch, just like before.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'245938\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 11:02 PM\']True. 20% or even 25% would be more ideal, but then we start dealing with math and Judge Judy. :)
50% would be easier as far as math goes, but that would prolly be too high.[/quote]
I do think the mob should be compensated for their work, but even if it's daily, I doubt GSN wants to deal with the continuity of a week's worth of episodes (makes no sense to me either). I actually did suggest that somewhere in this thread, but it would be based on how far the contestant got. Probably shorten the money tree to keep viewers from going over to Mrs. Sheindlin.
Level 1 (questions 1-3): $200 (10% penalty)
Level 2 (questions 4-6): $300 (15% penalty)
Level 3 (questions 7-9): $500 (20% penalty)
Level 4 (questions 10 and up): $1,000 (30% penalty)
The math might get a little weird there, but it's a little simpler, and everything ties to one another. The more you make, the more you give up. It's just like the IRS! ;-)
I don't like the all-or-nothing concept for the same reason I don't like the mob not receiving any incentive upon a bailout. The first and second levels are both safety nets like with Millionaire.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245947\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 09:03 PM\']The math might get a little weird there, but it's a little simpler, and everything ties to one another. The more you make, the more you give up. It's just like the IRS! ;-)[/quote] BOO THIS MAN! :)
One of the things I liked about the last payout schematic for the first series was that you had to answer some number of questions before being able to leave the game. If your choice is $1,000 or 1 vs. 99, you really don't need to ask the question, do you?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245948\' date=\'Aug 16 2010, 12:07 AM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'245947\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 09:03 PM\']The math might get a little weird there, but it's a little simpler, and everything ties to one another. The more you make, the more you give up. It's just like the IRS! ;-)[/quote] BOO THIS MAN! :)
One of the things I liked about the last payout schematic for the first series was that you had to answer some number of questions before being able to leave the game. If your choice is $1,000 or 1 vs. 99, you really don't need to ask the question, do you?
[/quote]
True, that was a good move IMO, and I'm not against that being utilized in the GSN version either. Like with Millionaire, that would probably be the one instance where you could lose and not win a dime.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'245942\' date=\'Aug 15 2010, 08:52 PM\']It is not my problem if you can't understand that I was trying to goof around with Doug.[/quote]
No, it's not, but hopefully you'd be willing to take a second look at your position when someone like me can't tell if you're joking or not.
I've enumerated the things I didn't like about the Original Recipe of American 1 vs. 100, and I hope they fix as many of them as possible. if they don't, I still have the choice to watch or to not watch, just like before.
Okay, but what you're saying there is that you want to watch something other than 1 vs. 100. Which is fine; I'd enjoy 1 vs. 100 a lot more if it were a game where teams of fifty, two at a time, communicated words to a roving guesser by forming questions one word at a time. It's just not a terribly profound statement at that point.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'245952\' date=\'Aug 16 2010, 12:20 AM\']I'd enjoy 1 vs. 100 a lot more if it were a game where teams of fifty, two at a time, communicated words to a roving guesser by forming questions one word at a time. It's just not a terribly profound statement at that point.[/quote]
Now, if the roving guesser had to jump across a series of large rubber balls mounted over a pool of water, I think you'd really have something.
(Not, however, if everything in sight was covered in foam. I think the foam is unnecessary.)
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This is interesting- Buzzerblog tweeted that this is planned as a daily program, not a weekly one...
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and about.comhas more info on how this will work.. (http://\"http://gameshows.about.com/\") The mob pre-taped and digitally added to the game????
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'246157\' date=\'Aug 19 2010, 08:23 PM\']The mob pre-taped and digitally added to the game?[/quote]It would work just like it did for Scattergories. "You were correct, let's go to the Mob Wall and see who were wrong." You tape a bunch of questions fifteen seconds at a time, and run through them. I bet that would be easier on the production schedule.
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'246157\' date=\'Aug 19 2010, 11:23 PM\']and about.comhas more info on how this will work.. (http://\"http://gameshows.about.com/\") The mob pre-taped and digitally added to the game????[/quote]
Curious to see how they will do this -- the technology has improved significantly since the days of "Paranoia" that a "digital mob" would look good on TV. The show may be wise to connect sponsor-wise with Skype, X-Box Live, Facebook, etc., to try to put something together to make the mob national in scope -- don't focus on finding, say, 100 wanna-be actors living in SoCal for your mob.
JD
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[quote name=\'colonial\' post=\'246163\' date=\'Aug 20 2010, 08:31 AM\']The show may be wise to connect sponsor-wise with Skype, X-Box Live, Facebook, etc., to try to put something together to make the mob national in scope -- don't focus on finding, say, 100 wanna-be actors living in SoCal for your mob.[/quote]
In the back of my mind, I was wondering how they'd pull it off. I wouldn't be surprised if it were indeed X-Box Live, given their connection with the home game. Perhaps avatars/userpics in lieu of the live people?
Now, hopefully Endemol won't take 6 hours to shoot an episode. :-P
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'246161\' date=\'Aug 20 2010, 01:25 AM\']It would work just like it did for Scattergories. "You were correct, let's go to the Mob Wall and see who were wrong." You tape a bunch of questions fifteen seconds at a time, and run through them. I bet that would be easier on the production schedule.[/quote]Hey, look who's right on the money.
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Craig's List (http://\"http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/tfr/1941149853.html\") would suggest they've settled on $50,000.
-Jason
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Well, here's how I'd work the format with a $50K jackpot:
Each Mob member knocked out is worth $250. There are three helps, but each one costs a set amount of money (Ask the Mob and Poll the Mob each cost $2500, while a "Switch the Question" costs $5K), which then goes into the Mob's "bank" to split at the end of the game.
If a contestant wants to walk, they give up half of their bank to the Mob. If they answer incorrectly, the Mob gets the 80/20 split of the contestant's bank.
If the contestant knocks out all 100 members of the Mob, their bank is doubled.
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We have a host for 1 vs 100... (http://\"http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101007/ap_en_tv/us_tv_carrie_ann_inaba;_ylt=Aj.h9FB2vr96B7.E8vuIX9BpMhkF;_ylu=X3oDMTJzbGdmNDB0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMDA3L3VzX3R2X2NhcnJpZV9hbm5faW5hYmEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA3luX3BhZ2luYXRlX3N1bW1hcnlfbGlzdARzbGsDY2FycmllYW5uaW5h\")..or should we rename it "Dancing With the Mob"?
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'248853\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 01:44 PM\']We have a host for 1 vs 100... (http://\"http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101007/ap_en_tv/us_tv_carrie_ann_inaba;_ylt=Aj.h9FB2vr96B7.E8vuIX9BpMhkF;_ylu=X3oDMTJzbGdmNDB0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMDA3L3VzX3R2X2NhcnJpZV9hbm5faW5hYmEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA3luX3BhZ2luYXRlX3N1bW1hcnlfbGlzdARzbGsDY2FycmllYW5uaW5h\")..or should we rename it "Dancing With the Mob"?[/quote]
Seems like it should be renamed "LOL WUT (http://\"http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/lol_wut1.jpg\")"...
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I'll withhold judgement until we see an episode actually air- I was skeptical when Alfonso Ribero was picked for Catch 21, but he hasn't been too bad..
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She'll continue to work on ABC's "Dancing With Stars" on Monday and Tuesday and then tape the game show on the other three weekdays. It's an "incredibly intense" schedule
Those five-day work weeks really take it out of you...
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Bob Stewart would have produced ten half-hour episodes of this in one day.
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'248862\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 08:26 PM\']Bob Stewart would have produced ten half-hour episodes of this in one day.[/quote]
But in the Endemol School of Game Show Production, one half-hour episode actually takes ten hours to tape...
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'248853\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 04:44 PM\']We have a host for 1 vs 100... (http://\"http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101007/ap_en_tv/us_tv_carrie_ann_inaba;_ylt=Aj.h9FB2vr96B7.E8vuIX9BpMhkF;_ylu=X3oDMTJzbGdmNDB0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMDA3L3VzX3R2X2NhcnJpZV9hbm5faW5hYmEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA3luX3BhZ2luYXRlX3N1bW1hcnlfbGlzdARzbGsDY2FycmllYW5uaW5h\")..or should we rename it "Dancing With the Mob"?[/quote]
Man, I had such high hopes it was gonna be Bergeron...
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I hope we're at the point where GSN can't afford Bergeron.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'248873\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 10:57 PM\']I hope we're at the point where GSN can't afford Bergeron.[/quote]
I think Mr. Zambo was being sarcastic there, but that's me.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'248874\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 09:01 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'248873\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 10:57 PM\']I hope we're at the point where GSN can't afford Bergeron.[/quote]
I think Mr. Zambo was being sarcastic there, but that's me.[/quote]
Well, I say that because admittedly I thought the same thing when I first saw the headline. :)
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Why do all the new-generation hosts have to say "I never thought of myself as a game-show host." ?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'248877\' date=\'Oct 8 2010, 02:32 AM\']Why do all the new-generation hosts have to say "I never thought of myself as a game-show host." ?[/quote]
The game show host stereotypes of days past, perpetrated by this guy (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ex3leQNaOg\") on the sponge-like minds of toddlers.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'248875\' date=\'Oct 8 2010, 12:13 AM\'][quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'248874\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 09:01 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'248873\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 10:57 PM\']I hope we're at the point where GSN can't afford Bergeron.[/quote]
I think Mr. Zambo was being sarcastic there, but that's me.[/quote]
Well, I say that because admittedly I thought the same thing when I first saw the headline. :)
[/quote]
I wouldn't say so much that I was being sarcastic as I hadn't thought the whole thing through--and if you say "DTWS" to me regarding a new game show, I *hope* you mean Bergeron. Although I just checked with my producers, and "Marie Osmond" would also have been an acceptable answer. ;)
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'248882\' date=\'Oct 8 2010, 10:39 AM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'248875\' date=\'Oct 8 2010, 12:13 AM\'][quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'248874\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 09:01 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'248873\' date=\'Oct 7 2010, 10:57 PM\']I hope we're at the point where GSN can't afford Bergeron.[/quote]
I think Mr. Zambo was being sarcastic there, but that's me.[/quote]
Well, I say that because admittedly I thought the same thing when I first saw the headline. :)
[/quote]
I wouldn't say so much that I was being sarcastic as I hadn't thought the whole thing through--and if you say "DTWS" to me regarding a new game show, I *hope* you mean Bergeron. Although I just checked with my producers, and "Marie Osmond" would also have been an acceptable answer. ;)
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Could have been Joey Fatone. He's getting a good number of game show gigs lately.
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Well they're going with the season 2 money ladder.. (http://\"http://gameshows.about.com/b/2010/10/08/gsns-1-vs-100-new-host-game-details.htm\")a little disappointed at that..
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'248893\' date=\'Oct 8 2010, 02:00 PM\']Could have been Joey Fatone. He's getting a good number of game show gigs lately.[/quote]
Yeah, coulda been. But I'd rather watch Marie...
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'248893\' date=\'Oct 8 2010, 11:00 AM\']Could have been Joey Fatone. He's getting a good number of game show gigs lately.[/quote]One is a good number?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248908\' date=\'Oct 8 2010, 07:28 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'248893\' date=\'Oct 8 2010, 11:00 AM\']Could have been Joey Fatone. He's getting a good number of game show gigs lately.[/quote]One is a good number?[/quote]
What do you have against 1? Did 1 steal your lunch money or someth....oh wait.
In seriousness, the Fat One has the VO work for Family Feud, is apparently also part of the TPiR Live rotation, and is coming up to Foxwoods later this month to host the LMAD Stage Show.
/No is the saddest experience
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'248901\' date=\'Oct 9 2010, 09:00 AM\']Well they're going with the season 2 money ladder.. (http://\"http://gameshows.about.com/b/2010/10/08/gsns-1-vs-100-new-host-game-details.htm\")a little disappointed at that..[/quote]
I personally would've gone for the monetary values used in the Australian version, which would be modified to fit the top prize of $50,000.
That means that the first 3 questions would be for $50, the next two would be for $100, then $150 for the next question then rising $50 for each question until it reaches $500.
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[quote name=\'trustno1\' post=\'248942\' date=\'Oct 9 2010, 05:44 PM\']That means that the first 3 questions would be for $50, the next two would be for $100, then $150 for the next question then rising $50 for each question until it reaches $500.[/quote]You've defeated eight mob members. You can take the four hundred dollars and go home or keep going. The money or the mob?"
In the words of Chad Eightfive, child, please.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248943\' date=\'Oct 9 2010, 09:22 PM\'][quote name=\'trustno1\' post=\'248942\' date=\'Oct 9 2010, 05:44 PM\']That means that the first 3 questions would be for $50, the next two would be for $100, then $150 for the next question then rising $50 for each question until it reaches $500.[/quote]"You've defeated eight mob members. You can take the four hundred dollars and go home or keep going. The money or the mob?"[/quote]
I don't think that argument works when the actual tree offers $0 for the same hypothetical amount.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'248948\' date=\'Oct 9 2010, 08:25 PM\']I don't think that argument works when the actual tree offers $0 for the same hypothetical amount.[/quote]That would be the case if you could bail before dispatching forty mob members.
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Ah. That I did not see. I guess the lower amounts are for the sake of a flameout, then.
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If the mob is pre-taped, can't the producers "control" how far a "one" can get?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'248955\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 09:48 AM\']If the mob is pre-taped, can't the producers "control" how far a "one" can get?[/quote]"No."
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'248952\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 06:36 AM\']Ah. That I did not see. I guess the lower amounts are for the sake of a flameout, then.[/quote]Like when forty-five people split the $1,000 that had built up in the bank on the Christmas episode.
The problem with doing a money ladder and a top prize of $50,000 is that the game is tedious until you get to some good money. The contestant can't quit until $1,000 has built up anyway, and who would be on a game show to win $750? If they came to me, and said that they absolutely are going with the ladder payout thing, I would have far fewer levels; maybe as few as three or four, and start the money off much higher; perhaps fifty out for $5,000 and go from there. If the money is too small, there's no excitement, because the contestant is risking Not Much to win A Skosh More Than Not Much.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248956\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 01:13 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'248955\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 09:48 AM\']If the mob is pre-taped, can't the producers "control" how far a "one" can get?[/quote]"No."
[/quote]
Wrong. The rest of the forum splits your winnings.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'248971\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 01:45 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248956\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 01:13 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'248955\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 09:48 AM\']If the mob is pre-taped, can't the producers "control" how far a "one" can get?[/quote]"No."[/quote]Wrong. The rest of the forum splits your winnings.[/quote]Beg pardon? The One player controls how far the One can get by providing correct answers.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248980\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 05:39 PM\'][quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'248971\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 01:45 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248956\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 01:13 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'248955\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 09:48 AM\']If the mob is pre-taped, can't the producers "control" how far a "one" can get?[/quote]"No."[/quote]Wrong. The rest of the forum splits your winnings.[/quote]Beg pardon? The One player controls how far the One can get by providing correct answers.
[/quote]
Sorta. But the argument doesn't lie with how smart the one is.....
Here's my beef w/ taped players. Producers no longer have to stack tough questions against one player. If they want someone to win 50K, they load up 100 players with the knowledge that at some (early) point, they all get stumped. If they want someone to win nothing, they throw in a player that, cause the questions were taped in advance, they already know can't be stumped. And who's to say that the stack won't be a set different number of questions each time? Not fair.
This reeks of fixing outcomes.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'248982\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 02:55 PM\']Here's my beef w/ taped players. Producers no longer have to stack tough questions against one player. If they want someone to win 50K, they load up 100 players with the knowledge that at some (early) point, they all get stumped. If they want someone to win nothing, they throw in a player that, cause the questions were taped in advance, they already know can't be stumped. And who's to say that the stack won't be a set different number of questions each time? Not fair.
This reeks of fixing outcomes.[/quote]I would think that the producers would stack the questions so that if the One answers correctly enough times, he'll win. If he's wrong at some point, it doesn't matter because he's done. At some point, there has to be a winning side, doesn't there?
But the more I think about it, and the way you explain it...it really doesn't pass the sniff test.
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Speaking of the mob, almost all of them will be pre-recorded and added to the game digitally, with a handful of them actually live and interacting with the contestants.
Yes, there's going to be pre-taped Mob, but not all of it (I'm guessing the "headliners" are going to be live), thus reducing the ability to control the outcome by shuffling the stack.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248983\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 06:13 PM\']At some point, there has to be a winning side, doesn't there?[/quote]
If my understanding of the show's rules is correct, no. It is entirely possible for both the One and the Mob to answer a question incorrectly, hence awarding no money.
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[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'248988\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 04:23 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'248983\' date=\'Oct 10 2010, 06:13 PM\']At some point, there has to be a winning side, doesn't there?[/quote]If my understanding of the show's rules is correct, no. It is entirely possible for both the One and the Mob to answer a question incorrectly, hence awarding no money.
[/quote]Which isn't really the point I was going for, and would be a happy little side affect for GSN, if they prefer doling out no money to having a winner.
Barring the fluke that everybody misses on a question, somebody has to win; either because the One goofs, or the Mob has all struck out. Back in the "good old days," no one knew beforehand when that would be, because only the question stack was known. Now the production team can decide whether the maximum length of the game will be five questions or forty.
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I suppose it's expecting too much that there might be a firewall, so the people who decide on the questions in a stack don't know what responses were given.
Just hoping against hope.
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'249043\' date=\'Oct 11 2010, 06:58 PM\']I suppose it's expecting too much that there might be a firewall, so the people who decide on the questions in a stack don't know what responses were given.[/quote]
Expecting WAY too much, I suspect.
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Just a reminder that the new series premieres this Monday at 7 pm ET (same day rerun at 10 pm). If you haven't noticed my signature, I will be one of the rotating mob members throughout the season so I'll be having fun throughout the next few weeks trying to spot myself in the mob and see if I won any money. I encourage everyone to give the show a chance. Even though the top prize isn't as extravagant as it used to be, it's still the same game that many people enjoyed. I really think you'll be impressed.
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Buzzerblog has some clips up... (http://\"http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/actual-footage-from-gsns-1-vs-100/\")..I will give them this, the video wall looks great. I share the concern that others have said about the producers gaming the question stack since they'll know how the mob did on each question..If they randomized the questions somehow, I'd feel a little more comfortable with it. They could have the contestants pick questions either randomly- tell them to hit A,B, or C to pick the question- or do what they do in some other versions; give them a choice of categories or give them the choice of an easier or a harder question in a specific category..
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'250502\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 12:58 AM\']Just a reminder that the new series premieres this Monday at 7 pm ET (same day rerun at 10 pm). If you haven't noticed my signature, I will be one of the rotating mob members throughout the season so I'll be having fun throughout the next few weeks trying to spot myself in the mob and see if I won any money. I encourage everyone to give the show a chance. Even though the top prize isn't as extravagant as it used to be, it's still the same game that many people enjoyed. I really think you'll be impressed.[/quote]
I must admit I'm confused here. You seem to be implying that you weren't in the studio during the actual shows, yet you're saying that you think we'll be impressed by them. Were you guys shown clips of the program when you taped your mob appearances?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'250565\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 10:32 PM\']Were you guys shown clips of the program when you taped your mob appearances?[/quote]I'm speaking from clips that have been posted from GSN, seeing the material that will be used plus interacting with people who really care about replicating the success of the NBC program. Many of the same people from Saget's show worked on this one.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'250567\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 10:41 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'250565\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 10:32 PM\']Were you guys shown clips of the program when you taped your mob appearances?[/quote]I'm speaking from clips that have been posted from GSN, seeing the material that will be used plus interacting with people who really care about replicating the success of the NBC program. Many of the same people from Saget's show worked on this one.
[/quote]
Without going into detail about gameplay, what exactly took place during your session? Were you in front a camera answering questions a producer asked you? Piggybacking on Steve's question, were you shown anything at all regarding the show as far as the set, etc.?
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To be as vague as possible, the answering of questions did not take place in front of a camera. The answering of questions and recording of reactions were two different occurrences. (You'll see all about the reactions when the show airs.) We had no knowledge of anything program-wise except for the rules we signed.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'250573\' date=\'Nov 9 2010, 11:37 PM\']We had no knowledge of anything program-wise except for the rules we signed.[/quote]
Then what would lead you to believe we will or won't be impressed?
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'250594\' date=\'Nov 10 2010, 10:24 AM\']Then what would lead you to believe we will or won't be impressed?[/quote]
He did say that GSN's posted clips, didn't he?
(Yes, I realize this smacks of self-promotion. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'250596\' date=\'Nov 10 2010, 01:33 PM\']He did say that GSN's posted clips, didn't he?[/quote]That would be the impressive factor. They've kept the set very similar to the Saget version and the mob screen is massive. I forgot to link to the videos originally, but they're on GSN.com (http://\"http://tv.gsn.com/videos\"). The top two clips in the playlist should be 1 vs. 100 related.
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'250596\' date=\'Nov 10 2010, 01:33 PM\'](Yes, I realize this smacks of self-promotion. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here.)[/quote]Sure, but I don't have much to self-promote when I'm going to end up pausing the show on DVR twenty times to see if I'm even in a mob for a given game. :P
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'250596\' date=\'Nov 10 2010, 01:33 PM\']He did say that GSN's posted clips, didn't he?[/quote]
Yes, but given the context, I'd gotten the impression that he knew something the rest of us didn't, as opposed to having watched clips that anybody could look at.
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Ratings for "1 vs. 100" premiere from Douglas at Marc Berman's media blog: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3...08533#457108533 (http://\"http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/39210607/m/73110829?r=457108533#457108533\"). Does not include the ratings for the 10pm primetime repeats.
Monday, November 15, 2010
Newlywed Game (GSN; 6:00-6:30pm)
Viewers: 532,000
A18-49: 0.1
A25-54: 0.1
A50+: 0.4
Baggage (GSN; 6:30-7:00pm)
Viewers: 565,000
A18-49: 0.1
A25-54: 0.2
A50+: 0.4
1 vs. 100 (GSN; 7:00-7:30pm)
Carrie Ann Inaba's 1st episode
Viewers: 568,000 (most-watched GSN program of the day)
A18-49: 0.1
A25-54: 0.2
A50+: 0.4
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On tonight's show, they played two complete games. The mob won twice.
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Being home sick and with a sick kid for three days gives you a decent amount of free time to watch TV... and one of the shows has been this incarnation of 1v100. I like/understand why they had to do the big mob screen - they keep to the format... yet something's bugging me:
The Richard Karn-vocal stylings of Carrie Ann. For some reason that DJ styling of "it's one versus 100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LIKEOMG!" with a pinch of valley girl doesn't jibe with me.
Maybe I'm the only one that can't stand this. Not a deal-breaker but it's a big spot on a show that I really, really like.
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Well, she's terrible, but we knew that going in.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'252570\' date=\'Dec 15 2010, 03:00 PM\']Well, she's terrible, but we knew that going in.[/quote]
What's this "we"? Unlike some people, I actually give hosts a chance before writing them off as "terrible".
From what little I've watched, she could be okay if she turned down the energy a few notches.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'252575\' date=\'Dec 15 2010, 05:15 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'252570\' date=\'Dec 15 2010, 03:00 PM\']Well, she's terrible, but we knew that going in.[/quote]
What's this "we"? Unlike some people, I actually give hosts a chance before writing them off as "terrible".
From what little I've watched, she could be okay if she turned down the energy a few notches.
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Who's gonna tell her to do that, though? She's probably following the direction of the producers and it makes her look bad.
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[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'252549\' date=\'Dec 15 2010, 07:48 AM\']Maybe I'm the only one that can't stand this. Not a deal-breaker but it's a big spot on a show that I really, really like.[/quote]Among all the other things, it is not as noticeable, but when she does the high rising terminal every freakin' sentence, and let slip an "ohmygod" during the show, I am convinced that if you were to attach spikes to her shoulders, she'd be impaled by the end of the series.
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'252579\' date=\'Dec 15 2010, 03:26 PM\']Who's gonna tell her to do that, though? She's probably following the direction of the producers and it makes her look bad.[/quote]So what? That doesn't answer Joe's point that you were predisposed to dislike her performance. Joe got you. Own it.
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I'm not a fan of female hosts, with the exception of Jill Wagner.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'252600\' date=\'Dec 16 2010, 12:02 AM\']I'm not a fan of female hosts, with the exception of Jill Wagner.[/quote]Betty White didn't cut it for ya, huh?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'252618\' date=\'Dec 16 2010, 10:49 AM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'252600\' date=\'Dec 16 2010, 12:02 AM\']I'm not a fan of female hosts, with the exception of Jill Wagner.[/quote]Betty White didn't cut it for ya, huh?
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In that role, no. Love her as a guest panelist or game player.
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As much as I hate it when they cut to commercial before revealing the correct answer (doubly so if I knew the answer as soon as I saw the question), there's a somewhat narrow scenario that bugs me even more:
1. Contestant Polls the Mob.
2. chooses the answer they asked about
3. said answer is correct
4. (here's the kicker) Carrie asks how many people missed it.
Hello! You just told us how many people got it right. That means we know how many people got it wrong! (More to the point, we know whether the contestant crossed a threshhold for more money.)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'252700\' date=\'Dec 17 2010, 08:31 PM\']As much as I hate it when they cut to commercial before revealing the correct answer (doubly so if I knew the answer as soon as I saw the question), there's a somewhat narrow scenario that bugs me even more:
1. Contestant Polls the Mob.
2. chooses the answer they asked about
3. said answer is correct
4. (here's the kicker) Carrie asks how many people missed it.
Hello! You just told us how many people got it right. That means we know how many people got it wrong! (More to the point, we know whether the contestant crossed a threshhold for more money.)[/quote]
Agreed.
It's 1 vs. 78!
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I don't know how many eps were ordered, but they aired 29, with a rerun on Christmas Eve. There are no new shows scheduled through January 17.
My DVR cut off a little early. Did the game that started on 12/23 straddle, as it appeared?
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'253462\' date=\'Dec 27 2010, 01:09 PM\']My DVR cut off a little early. Did the game that started on 12/23 straddle, as it appeared?[/quote]Yes. It starts today at 1 vs. 30, $5,000, Trust still in tact. BuzzerBlog's schedules show the next two weeks will still have the rest of the new episodes.
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My wife and I were at a friend's house on Christmas Eve and I saw the GSN version for the first time. To be honest, I really didn't like the mob "wall". The constant out of focus shots were a distraction.
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The questions are pretty good and I like to play along so I can forgive the program's faults.
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chad1m: I don't know if you remember, but I'll ask anyway. A contestant took the money rather than attempt the question, "Which T.V. show currently in production does not have a title ending with a punctuation mark?" What were the choices? I'm assuming it was one of their two-stage questions.
A really diabolical choice would be "the one starring Hugh Laurie." If you think that House is the full title, you'll choose that and be wrong. (It's House, M.D.)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'253578\' date=\'Dec 29 2010, 11:22 AM\']chad1m: I don't know if you remember, but I'll ask anyway. A contestant took the money rather than attempt the question, "Which T.V. show currently in production does not have a title ending with a punctuation mark?" What were the choices? I'm assuming it was one of their two-stage questions.
A really diabolical choice would be "the one starring Hugh Laurie." If you think that House is the full title, you'll choose that and be wrong. (It's House, M.D.)[/quote]
Wasn't the question "What current game show does not have a title ending with a punctuation mark?" One of the answers had to be
"The One hosted by Alex Trebek"
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chad1m: I don\'t know if you remember, but I\'ll ask anyway
I do, because I liked this question. :) It would have been: \"The title of which current game show doesn\'t end with a punctuation mark?\"
A: The one hosted by Meredith Vieira
B: The one hosted by Alex Trebek
C: The one hosted by Jeff Foxworthy
The answer, I believe, would be A. (Who Wants to be a Millionaire, Jeopardy! and Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader? are how each official website titles their program.)
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'253584\' date=\'Dec 29 2010, 12:31 PM\']"The title of which current game show doesn't end with a punctuation mark?"
A: The one hosted by Meredith Vieira
B: The one hosted by Alex Trebek
C: The one hosted by Jeff Foxworthy[/quote]
I love 1 vs 100 questions, because I would have gotten this one wrong because I was thinking C, but it's A. Did A ever have a question mark at the end? I thought it did in Regis's time with the program.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'253584\' date=\'Dec 29 2010, 12:31 PM\'][quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'253578\' date=\'Dec 29 2010, 11:22 AM\']chad1m: I don't know if you remember, but I'll ask anyway[/quote]I do, because I liked this question. :) It would have been: "The title of which current game show doesn't end with a punctuation mark?"
A: The one hosted by Meredith Vieira
B: The one hosted by Alex Trebek
C: The one hosted by Jeff Foxworthy
[/quote]
Hmm, let's see. A and C's titles are questions, so logically they would end with a question mark. B is the answer, because it ends with an exclamation point, not a mark. Tricky one, for sure!
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[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'253588\' date=\'Dec 29 2010, 01:33 PM\']Did A ever have a question mark at the end? I thought it did in Regis's time with the program.[/quote]It does in England, but not in America.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'253589\' date=\'Dec 29 2010, 10:38 AM\']Hmm, let's see. A and C's titles are questions, so logically they would end with a question mark. B is the answer, because it ends with an exclamation point, not a mark. Tricky one, for sure![/quote]
Apparently. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclamation_point\")
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'253589\' date=\'Dec 29 2010, 12:38 PM\']Hmm, let's see. A and C's titles are questions, so logically they would end with a question mark. B is the answer, because it ends with an exclamation point, not a mark. Tricky one, for sure![/quote]
Your prize for that "clever" answer. (http://\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/hmtriplecrown/leaffail.jpg\")
Wow.
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Jimmy fails to be clever and correct: take two drinks.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'252700\' date=\'Dec 18 2010, 12:31 PM\']As much as I hate it when they cut to commercial before revealing the correct answer (doubly so if I knew the answer as soon as I saw the question), there's a somewhat narrow scenario that bugs me even more:
1. Contestant Polls the Mob.
2. chooses the answer they asked about
3. said answer is correct
4. (here's the kicker) Carrie asks how many people missed it.
Hello! You just told us how many people got it right. That means we know how many people got it wrong! (More to the point, we know whether the contestant crossed a threshhold for more money.)[/quote]
That was a problem with the Australian edition, as well.
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[quote name=\'trustno1\' post=\'254217\' date=\'Jan 7 2011, 10:13 PM\'][quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'252700\' date=\'Dec 18 2010, 12:31 PM\']As much as I hate it when they cut to commercial before revealing the correct answer (doubly so if I knew the answer as soon as I saw the question), there's a somewhat narrow scenario that bugs me even more:
1. Contestant Polls the Mob.
2. chooses the answer they asked about
3. said answer is correct
4. (here's the kicker) Carrie asks how many people missed it.
Hello! You just told us how many people got it right. That means we know how many people got it wrong! (More to the point, we know whether the contestant crossed a threshhold for more money.)[/quote]
That was a problem with the Australian edition, as well.[/quote]Not everyone is able to do that math quickly enough/retain that number/care. So I don't mind repeating it. Plus they have to put out the lights of the losers anyhow, right?
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Did anyone see the eps the week of January 3rd where the top prize was bumped to $100K? I didn't see any discussion of this in Show Summaries.
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I think it kind of backfired. People who were satisfied with a given figure when there's $50K available were just as satisfied with the same figure when there was $100K available. That meant they took home the same amount in fewer questions.
They apparently used the same 100 for all five shows. Carrie Ann seemed to point out the same groups in every show, occupying the same numbers, including the cute librarian in #31.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'254365\' date=\'Jan 9 2011, 11:00 PM\']They apparently used the same 100 for all five shows. Carrie Ann seemed to point out the same groups in every show, occupying the same numbers, including the cute librarian in #31.[/quote]
No they didn't, I have a friend who was in the mob for only two of the shows last week. The groups may have been the same, but they switched out the rest.
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My bad, then.
FYI, the .pdf's were wrong for this week. They're running new eps. (Either that, or last night's ep was the 12th produced.)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'254446\' date=\'Jan 11 2011, 10:42 AM\']My bad, then.
FYI, the .pdf's were wrong for this week. They're running new eps. (Either that, or last night's ep was the 12th produced.)[/quote]
I believe that's correct, they aired reruns on Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve, so yesterday's and today's episodes are probably the ones that were swapped out. Reruns start on Wednesday with episode three.
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How rare are episodes with two contestants (like the one they just aired)?
-- Don
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Recently, GSN has aired half-hour episodes where they had the "you get to see the question (but not the answers) before deciding whether to stop or continue if you have used both of your helps" rule, and episodes where they did not. Which rule was first for the half-hour version, and when did it change?
-- Don
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Those conditions are true, along with that of passing a certain level (10k I believe) before getting the "sneak peek."
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'254619\' date=\'Jan 13 2011, 12:45 PM\']Those conditions are true, along with that of passing a certain level (10k I believe) before getting the "sneak peek."[/quote]
GSN's 10PM episode on 1/14 had somebody at the $10,000 level with both of their helps gone, and he didn't get the sneak peek (or at least they didn't show him getting it - they didn't show the question board, so theoretically it is possible they did give him the sneak peek but it was edited for some reason).
-- Don
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' post=\'254480\' date=\'Jan 11 2011, 09:54 PM\']How rare are episodes with two contestants (like the one they just aired)?[/quote]Not very. 15 episodes had carryover contestants (or, in one instance, two full games.)
[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' post=\'254734\' date=\'Jan 15 2011, 12:30 AM\']To theoretically it is possible they did give him the sneak peek but it was edited for some reason)[/quote]That's possible. That way, they could fit the carryover and another full game in without going through the minute or minute-and-a-half rigmarole of showing and debating about the sneak peek.