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Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: 14gameshows on March 05, 2010, 12:44:50 PM
Do you think Wheel of Fortune can and would continue without Pat and Vanna as the host/hostess of the show???

Also, who do you think would be a good replacement for them?

How much longer do they have on their contract with the show anyways?
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: TheLastResort on March 05, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
[quote name=\'14gameshows\' post=\'236931\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 12:44 PM\']Do you think Wheel of Fortune can and would continue without Pat and Vanna as the host/hostess of the show???[/quote]

I'm sure they would continue it if the ratings were still there.  

[quote name=\'14gameshows\' post=\'236931\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 12:44 PM\']Also, who do you think would be a good replacement for them?[/quote]

I'd vote for Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs.  No replacement needed for Vanna.

[quote name=\'14gameshows\' post=\'236931\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 12:44 PM\']How much longer do they have on their contract with the show anyways?[/quote]

Beats me.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on March 05, 2010, 02:58:36 PM
[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'236937\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 01:25 PM\'][quote name=\'14gameshows\' post=\'236931\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 12:44 PM\']Also, who do you think would be a good replacement for them?[/quote]
I'd vote for Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs.  No replacement needed for Vanna.
[/quote]
True, but they'd probably get him a co host anyways. The puzzleboard would probably look a bit empty without someone there.

Like it or not, I imagine this day is coming sooner rather than later, and I'm almost certain Pat and Vanna will leave at the same time. Depending on how long their contracts are for, I wouldn't be surprised to see them ride out their current contracts and then retire.

I'd like to see what Tom Bergeron would be like in the role, but after doing Hollywood Squares for 6 years, I'd imagine everything since that gig being somewhat "tame".

As far as Vanna's replacement, I don't know who specifically, but someone with a Kelly Ripa-like personality....or just Kelly Ripa. I dunno if they'd take her only because she's turning 40 this year.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: Kniwt on March 05, 2010, 03:16:16 PM
Carol Vorderman is reportedly available.  And she knows her vowels and consonants.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: GrandGame1440 on March 05, 2010, 03:20:28 PM
[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'236939\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 02:58 PM\']As far as Vanna's replacement, I don't know who specifically, but someone with a Kelly Ripa-like personality....or just Kelly Ripa.[/quote]

I doubt Ms. Ripa would accept a job where she has to remain silent for the better part of a half-hour.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: clemon79 on March 05, 2010, 03:30:37 PM
[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'236939\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 11:58 AM\']Like it or not, I imagine this day is coming sooner rather than later, and I'm almost certain Pat and Vanna will leave at the same time. Depending on how long their contracts are for, I wouldn't be surprised to see them ride out their current contracts and then retire.[/quote]
Considering how much they are getting paid for how little work they do (compared to folks who actually have to work for a living, mind you), I cannot possibly see them leaving those jobs voluntarily.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: Bob Zager on March 05, 2010, 03:43:24 PM
[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'236937\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 02:25 PM\']I'd vote for Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs.  No replacement needed for Vanna.[/quote]

Back in the mid- to late-90s, a CD-ROM based computer game called "Radio Active" was released, and featured Mike Rowe as the host (by the name of Bobby Arpegio, don't know if I spelled it correctly!)

He seemed pretty good, and the game was like a futuristic "Name That Tune."
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: WarioBarker on March 05, 2010, 04:24:05 PM
Do you think Wheel of Fortune can and would continue without Pat and Vanna as the host/hostess of the show?
Could probably continue without Harry Friedmantle, too. If the ratings justify a renewal after they leave, then yes it could continue. Whether it will, however, is another story entirely.

who do you think would be a good replacement for them?
Carol Vorderman is reportedly available. And she knows her vowels and consonants.
I'm with Kniwt on this one. Channel Four planned to cut Countdown's budget by 33%, and Carol was willing to take a 33% salary cut, but Four told her she had two days to take a 90% pay cut or get out.

I'd say that Carol should host as well, but I think it's time for a reunion with Des O'Connor.

Considering how much they are getting paid for how little work they do (compared to folks who actually have to work for a living, mind you), I cannot possibly see them leaving those jobs voluntarily.
And that right there is the clincher -- will Pat and Vanna leave voluntarily? That's the question.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: tvwxman on March 06, 2010, 06:07:26 AM
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'236956\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 04:24 PM\'][quote name=\'14gameshows\' post=\'236931\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 12:44 PM\']Do you think Wheel of Fortune can and would continue without Pat and Vanna as the host/hostess of the show?[/quote]
Could probably continue without Harry Friedmantle, too. [/quote]
Excuse you, but just what in the hell has Harry Friedman done to justify that comment?
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: Kevin Prather on March 06, 2010, 07:47:17 AM
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'236956\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 01:24 PM\'](Edited to remove a stupid comment I made.)[/quote]
Missed one.

[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'236956\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 01:24 PM\']Could probably continue without Harry Friedmantle, too.[/quote]
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: chad1m on March 06, 2010, 02:15:45 PM
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'236956\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 04:24 PM\']Harry Friedmantle[/quote]WarioBarker, ladies and gentlemen.

/You are aware that he is executive producer of the top two programs in American syndication and that they're in the top two by a margin that is rarely penetrated... right?
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: BrandonFG on March 06, 2010, 02:16:43 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'236984\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 02:15 PM\'][T]hey're in the top two by a margin that is rarely penetrated... right?[/quote]
That's what she said!

/Wait what?
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: Neumms on March 06, 2010, 03:47:34 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'236984\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 02:15 PM\'][quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'236956\' date=\'Mar 5 2010, 04:24 PM\']Harry Friedmantle[/quote]WarioBarker, ladies and gentlemen.

/You are aware that he is executive producer of the top two programs in American syndication and that they're in the top two by a margin that is rarely penetrated... right?
[/quote]

Does this make him a candidate for canonization? "Wheel of Fortune" may still be popular, but one could take a view that Harry's changes have made it a less enjoyable show. He's also responsible for Donnymid. Bob Barker was the executive producer of one of daytime's top two programs for, what, 35 years and people call him names, too. Some are more clever than others, but your outrage might not be justified.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: TLEberle on March 06, 2010, 04:00:19 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'236992\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 12:47 PM\']Does this make him a candidate for canonization? "Wheel of Fortune" may still be popular, but one could take a view that Harry's changes have made it a less enjoyable show.[/quote]For us. He still has the 1-2 syndication slots in a sleeper hold and has for as long as I can remember.

 Mr. Benfield/Lawrence/Barker was out of line, and was justly pwned for it.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: chad1m on March 06, 2010, 05:56:30 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'236992\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 03:47 PM\']"Wheel of Fortune" may still be popular, but one could take a view that Harry's changes have made it a less enjoyable show.[/quote]And if something is popular, isn't it usually inherent that the product is being enjoyed?
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: WarioBarker on March 06, 2010, 09:36:25 PM
Could probably continue without Harry Friedmantle, too.
Excuse you, but just what in the hell has Harry Friedman done to justify that comment?
He's also responsible for Donnymid.

/You are aware that he is executive producer of the top two programs in American syndication and that they're in the top two by a margin that is rarely penetrated... right?
Yes, I'm aware that most of America loves the five-a-week gimmickfest that doesn't recognize its origins and the show that's managed to retain its integrity (and theme music!) while embracing its history.

"Wheel of Fortune" may still be popular, but one could take a view that Harry's changes have made it a less enjoyable show.
Indeed. My main beef is the fact that their definition of "history" is skewed (they'll show clips of Edd Byrnes, but not Chuck Woolery) and any attempt to prove them wrong has been shot down from the airwaves (GSN only airing three daytime episodes; the E! True Hollywood Story being shot down from both YouTube and the E! network itself). It had to have been somebody's decision, because I know it's okay to take footage from the collectors if you want to show some. If the show just airs a few clips (with original sounds) of Chuck and Susan, even if they're low-quality, I'll shut up.

Please don't misunderstand me -- I still watch Wheel when I can, but it just isn't the same for me. I might have been born in 1988, but the 1970s-90s era runs circles around the modern-day show, mainly because of the atmosphere (particularly during the Woolery/Stafford period).
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: TLEberle on March 06, 2010, 09:46:56 PM
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237019\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 06:36 PM\']I was playing on words, Travis. I very highly doubt that Mr. Friedman reads this or any other message board (including the Sony Boards).[/quote]Of COURSE you were "playing on words". Unfortunately, your assessments seem to be grounded in a plane of reality that is inhabited solely by you, and no one else from this board.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: chad1m on March 06, 2010, 10:00:53 PM
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237019\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 09:36 PM\']I rest my case.[/quote]...you rest your case with one bad show out of everything he's accomplished? That's like using Showoffs to explain why Mark Goodson is a crappy producer.
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237019\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 09:36 PM\']Yes, I am aware that most of America loves the five-a-week gimmickfest that doesn't recognize its origins and the show that has managed to retain its integrity (and theme music!) while embracing its history.[/quote]So then quit your bitching. America clearly doesn't care about everything that you do and they rightly don't have to. Give it up and take up a grievance elsewhere.
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237019\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 09:36 PM\']//This is why my signature says "This post is ©2010 DB Enterprises, Inc."[/quote]And that's kinda part of why you're not taken very seriously.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: WarioBarker on March 06, 2010, 10:41:16 PM
...you rest your case with one bad show out of everything he's accomplished? That's like using Showoffs to explain why Mark Goodson is a crappy producer.
Friedman hasn't exactly left me feeling positive about his handiwork, especially after rediscovering Donnymid. I don't know exactly why -- something about him just irks me. Also, Showoffs wasn't that bad, but rather a victim of unforeseen circumstances.

So then quit your bitching. America clearly doesn't care about everything that you do and they rightly don't have to. Give it up and take up a grievance elsewhere.
I have no grievances, Chad. I'm not saying that America cares or doesn't care -- the fact that Wheel has remained very popular, despite its gimmicks, is because of its solid format.

Quote from: Dan88
//This is why my signature says "This post is ©2010 DB Enterprises, Inc."
And that's kinda part of why you're not taken very seriously.
I've changed my signature -- less childish, I suppose, and more mature-sounding. I'm not trying to offend anybody here -- I'm relatively new, and I have the ability to post freely so the admins are obviously trusting me to not be a moron. I'm not trying to sound like a moron, an idiot, or a guy stuck in a time before he was even born. And I don't want to screw up again.

I apologize for my boorish attitude, and my lack of level-headedness.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: J.R. on March 06, 2010, 11:59:50 PM
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237036\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 09:41 PM\']My assessments are my opinion. And I am quite sane, thank you. 0_0[/quote]
In your opinion, sure.

/I've seen your written "work". I'm not sure I'd agree with said opinion.
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on March 08, 2010, 09:38:41 AM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'237006\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 04:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'236992\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 03:47 PM\']"Wheel of Fortune" may still be popular, but one could take a view that Harry's changes have made it a less enjoyable show.[/quote]And if something is popular, isn't it usually inherent that the product is being enjoyed?
[/quote]
Just because something is being enjoyed today doesn't mean that it wasn't more enjoyable in the past.  Isn't that why nostalgia exists?
Title: Pat and Vanna
Post by: Joe Mello on March 08, 2010, 12:32:19 PM
[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'237142\' date=\'Mar 8 2010, 09:38 AM\']Just because something is being enjoyed today doesn't mean that it wasn't more enjoyable in the past.  Isn't that why nostalgia exists?[/quote]
My 2 cents says it exists because your view of the world has changed and it's not how you expected or wanted it to be.  I can't speak for everyone else (or every other person my age) but 10-15 years ago, I certainly wasn't thinking about money management, finding a better job, maintaining a relationship, keeping myself not depressed, living by myself, or "The Issues."

When people say "times were simpler," it's not necessarily because there was less in the world, it's because they didn't have to worry about them.