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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: xavier45 on February 03, 2010, 11:44:07 PM
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A while back, Randy West posted Wink was coming back to host a new show. Well here it is. Wink posted on his website that he is coming back to Game Shows, and GSN got him. He will be hosting their new hidden camera Game, Instant Recall. Buzzerblog says that this game puts people in different situations while being watched by a Hidden Camera. Then later, they will have to remember exactly what happened to them. The more the know, the more money they will win.
It will be interesting to see if this show does any good in the ratings. Hidden Agenda is down to 3 airings now after getting terrible numbers in both first run and reruns. But either way, good to see Wink back in Game Shows.
It premieres March 4th.
http://www.winkmartindale.com/mainmenu/images/winks_back.jpg (http://\"http://www.winkmartindale.com/mainmenu/images/winks_back.jpg\")
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As happy as I am for Wink that he's working again, I just don't care about the idea enough to watch more than the one. It was done already with The Phone last year. One of the big problems for me with Hidden Agenda is the lack of any sort of tension-building or episode-ending climax. Cash Cab is played for even lower stakes but manage to keep the game entertaining because there's the threat of the game ending after two wrong answers, so when a group manages to reach their destination on two strikes, it is that much more exciting. And then they have the Double-or-Nothing question to try for at the end. Hidden Agenda has...three more big-money stunts and the reveal. Yawn.
The worst thing about this is that GSN's push-poll seems to be saying "We intend to move farther in this direction, and we want to know if you think this idea is merely great or incredibly awesome." I would rather endure more Chain Reaction or Catch 21, which at least look like game shows, rather than fly-on-the wall shows like Unstapled or games like Candid Hit Man.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'235574\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 12:18 AM\']As happy as I am for Wink that he's working again, I just don't care about the idea enough to watch more than the one.[/quote]
I'm with you. Not to prejudge the show, but I gotta admit, I was a bit disappointed when I found that this was the show he was hosting. Maybe it's the fact that it just sounds out of place for a traditional host like Wink to host what this kind of show. Outside of the posters on this forum, what percentage of GSN's target demo is aware of who or what a Wink Martindale is? I mean, his last game show was what, a dozen years ago?
Oh wait, this is GSN...I forgot they love celebrities who haven't done a TV show in a dozen or more years. {Emily Litella}Never-minnnnnd...{/EL}
/So much for that TTD10
///TTD-X?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'235584\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 08:01 AM\']what percentage of GSN's target demo is aware of who or what a Wink Martindale is? I mean, his last game show was what, a dozen years ago?[/quote]I know you were being sarcastic, but hasn't he done commercials very recently for Orbitz? Or am I thinking of someone else?
/He did do those commercials for Digornio.
//It isn't delivery, dammit.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'235588\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 09:45 AM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'235584\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 08:01 AM\']what percentage of GSN's target demo is aware of who or what a Wink Martindale is? I mean, his last game show was what, a dozen years ago?[/quote]I know you were being sarcastic, but hasn't he done commercials very recently for Orbitz? Or am I thinking of someone else?
/He did do those commercials for Digornio.
//It isn't delivery, dammit.
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It was Wink. And while that's true, I guess I should say who in GSN's target demo knows him from his game shows, and not his game show host parodies from recent commercials? Then again, Chuck Woolery wasn't necessarily a household name when he did Lingo, and I remember him saying some teenagers recognized him on the street after that show started...
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So is a new Toyota the grand prize?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'235591\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 10:59 AM\']It was Wink. And while that's true, I guess I should say who in GSN's target demo knows him from his game shows, and not his game show host parodies from recent commercials? Then again, Chuck Woolery wasn't necessarily a household name when he did Lingo, and I remember him saying some teenagers recognized him on the street after that show started...[/quote]
Who can forget one guy on the New Jersey Turnpike calling him "Chuck Lowery" on an episode of Naturally Stoned?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'235588\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 09:45 AM\']I know you were being sarcastic, but hasn't he done commercials very recently for Orbitz?[/quote]
Those wouldn't fit my definition of "recently," let alone "very recently."
/Is it just me or do the current Orbitz commercials use What's My Line? music?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'235584\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 05:01 AM\']Maybe it's the fact that it just sounds out of place for a traditional host like Wink to host what this kind of show. Outside of the posters on this forum, what percentage of GSN's target demo is aware of who or what a Wink Martindale is?[/quote]It isn't even that for me. As much as we knocked Amnesia, at least the show built to a meaningful climax. (The fact that people weren't willing to have a go on the $25,000 question notwithstanding...)
Game shows are supposed to build to a climax by increasing the money, the tension, the difficulty...something. Hidden Agenda didn't build to much of anything, because there was no tension or risk. The couple is going to win some money no matter what. Now if the "in on it" partner can bet those thousands of dollars on the sucker partner doing it, at least that's something.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'235767\' date=\'Feb 12 2010, 12:33 AM\']As much as we knocked Amnesia, at least the show built to a meaningful climax. (The fact that people weren't willing to have a go on the $25,000 question notwithstanding...)[/quote]
Am I the only one who really enjoyed Amnesia? Despite the way-too-personal-to-play-along format, I thought it was a refreshingly pleasant show to watch.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'235769\' date=\'Feb 12 2010, 02:54 AM\']Am I the only one who really enjoyed Amnesia? Despite the way-too-personal-to-play-along format, I thought it was a refreshingly pleasant show to watch.[/quote]
I did too...would've been a cute daytime or cable game show, and I don't really believe the talk about it having no play-along value. I mean, you can't really "play along" with "The Newlywed Game", and that's been around for 40+ years!
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Congrats to The Winker. Hopefully, the show will turn out to be worthy of him.
[quote name=\'chrisholland03\' post=\'235598\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 01:44 PM\']So is a new Toyota the grand prize?[/quote]
Why would it be?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'235791\' date=\'Feb 12 2010, 04:03 PM\']Congrats to The Winker. Hopefully, the show will turn out to be worthy of him.[quote name=\'chrisholland03\' post=\'235598\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 01:44 PM\']So is a new Toyota the grand prize?[/quote]Why would it be?[/quote]
Surely you've heard of the Toyota recalls...
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'235792\' date=\'Feb 12 2010, 04:06 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'235791\' date=\'Feb 12 2010, 04:03 PM\']Congrats to The Winker. Hopefully, the show will turn out to be worthy of him.[quote name=\'chrisholland03\' post=\'235598\' date=\'Feb 9 2010, 01:44 PM\']So is a new Toyota the grand prize?[/quote]Why would it be?[/quote]
Surely you've heard of the Toyota recalls...
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Gotcha.
As for what will really be given away, what is the cash and prizes potential to be for Wink's first game of the 21st century?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'235770\' date=\'Feb 12 2010, 05:31 AM\'][quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'235769\' date=\'Feb 12 2010, 02:54 AM\']Am I the only one who really enjoyed Amnesia? Despite the way-too-personal-to-play-along format, I thought it was a refreshingly pleasant show to watch.[/quote]
I did too...would've been a cute daytime or cable game show, and I don't really believe the talk about it having no play-along value. I mean, you can't really "play along" with "The Newlywed Game", and that's been around for 40+ years!
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Of course you can play along with TNG, especially if you are married. Otherwise, how could four unrelated couples be able to play the game together???
The difference between Newlywed questions and Amnesia questions was that many of the Amnesia questions were so personalized, it was damn near impossible to play along (i.e. "What did your Uncle Eddie call you in the 3rd Grade?").
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Well the commercials have started...
and Wink has a sense of humor, I'll give him that... (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYLypGFz3BE\")
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'236322\' date=\'Feb 22 2010, 07:40 PM\']Well the commercials have started...
and Wink has a sense of humor, I'll give him that... (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYLypGFz3BE\")[/quote]
I guess they found some leftover props from this 2003 GSN promo. (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-29_JMzLg&feature=PlayList&p=029FDA2A003A0F46&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=32\")
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Does Wink nor GSN not remember that he was hosting game shows prior to 1973?
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'236335\' date=\'Feb 22 2010, 10:18 PM\']Does Wink nor GSN not remember that he was hosting game shows prior to 1973?[/quote]
They probably do remember, but maybe GSN didn't want to make Wink THAT old on the promo.
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For the very few of you that care about this show, GSN has now moved the first-run airings to Friday nights at 8 PM.
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Well Instant Recall doesn't seem to be burning up the ratings on GSN. It supposedly got an 0.1 for its first airing. They'd probably get better ratings acquiring, Debt, High Rollers or any other show that Wink hosted.
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'237518\' date=\'Mar 13 2010, 03:21 PM\']Well Instant Recall doesn't seem to be burning up the ratings on GSN. It supposedly got an 0.1 for its first airing. They'd probably get better ratings acquiring, Debt, High Rollers or any other show that Wink hosted.[/quote]
They'd probably get better ratings from an infomercial (maybe moreso if Wink were hosting)
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'237410\' date=\'Mar 11 2010, 08:54 PM\']For the very few of you that care about this show, GSN has now moved the first-run airings to Friday nights at 8 PM.[/quote]
Heh...so the "Friday night death slot" (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_night_death_slot\") now applies to second tier cable game shows as well. ;-)
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'236335\' date=\'Feb 22 2010, 07:18 PM\']Does Wink nor GSN not remember that he was hosting game shows prior to 1973?[/quote]Don't let something like a good rhyme or keeping the beat get in the way of the cold hard facts, Tim.
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I just saw this for the first time today, and I gotta say, it was pretty fun. It seems like it'd do better by not being on GSN though. I'm not really sure how many people these days actually get the network, let alone watch it regularly.
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[quote name=\'GrandMasterGalvatron\' post=\'237905\' date=\'Mar 19 2010, 05:31 PM\']I just saw this for the first time today, and I gotta say, it was pretty fun. It seems like it'd do better by not being on GSN though. I'm not really sure how many people these days actually get the network, let alone watch it regularly.[/quote]Really? I saw enough of it to be left bemused. They go to the trouble of having big red buttons on the little stand there, and don't ever use them? The game is three questions and everyone keeps the money earned? That isn't a game, that's people answering questions for money.
Have the first half of the show be the setup (maybe give pop-up clues so that the viewer knows what to look for) and then have the second half be the game. And more than just "which of these was the book cover?" What game show has been made worse by adding a flash round to it?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'238071\' date=\'Mar 22 2010, 08:35 PM\']They go to the trouble of having big red buttons on the little stand there, and don't ever use them?[/quote]
Sorta like Tic Tac Dough did for quite a few years it seems... :) Maybe it's just Wink.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'238071\' date=\'Mar 22 2010, 10:35 PM\'][quote name=\'GrandMasterGalvatron\' post=\'237905\' date=\'Mar 19 2010, 05:31 PM\']I just saw this for the first time today, and I gotta say, it was pretty fun. It seems like it'd do better by not being on GSN though. I'm not really sure how many people these days actually get the network, let alone watch it regularly.[/quote]Really? I saw enough of it to be left bemused. They go to the trouble of having big red buttons on the little stand there, and don't ever use them? The game is three questions and everyone keeps the money earned? That isn't a game, that's people answering questions for money.
Have the first half of the show be the setup (maybe give pop-up clues so that the viewer knows what to look for) and then have the second half be the game. And more than just "which of these was the book cover?" What game show has been made worse by adding a flash round to it?
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Well, it doesn't seem so much of a true game show, but more a parody of one. In fact, I think that's the appeal. That everything's so intentionally cheesy and over the top. Part of the fun is also watching the people get put through strange situations.
It's nothing groundbreaking at all, but something like a last bit of fun for Wink to have before retiring I guess.
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[quote name=\'GrandMasterGalvatron\' post=\'238154\' date=\'Mar 24 2010, 12:36 PM\']Well, it doesn't seem so much of a true game show, but more a parody of one. In fact, I think that's the appeal. That everything's so intentionally cheesy and over the top. Part of the fun is also watching the people get put through strange situations.
It's nothing groundbreaking at all, but something like a last bit of fun for Wink to have before retiring I guess.[/quote]
If it were simply him doing schtick for commercials (a la the ones he did for Mountain Dew, DiGiorno, or Orbitz), it would be one thing. This show, to me, could've been done with any Hollywood actor who would play the same role on a fictional sitcom game show, and Wink could've escaped the cheesy stereotype of a game show host that he's played for the last 15 or 20 years.
/Now where's that Dragon! The All-New Tic Tac Dough?
//Followed by Lede! The All-New Headline Chasers
///Sorry, I'll stop now
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'238161\' date=\'Mar 24 2010, 11:55 AM\']and Wink could've escaped the cheesy stereotype of a game show host that he's played for the last 15 or 20 years.[/quote]
You operate under the assumption that he wants to escape that stereotype. It's kept him employed over those last 15 or 20 years