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Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on August 04, 2009, 09:46:14 PM

In an article in BusinessWeek (http://\"http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/aug2009/db2009084_008420.htm\"), they discussed the recent celebrity guest hosts World Wrestling Entertainment has had for its flagship program on USA, Monday Night RAW. Such previous stars have included Donald Trump, Jeremy Piven, Shaquille O'Neal and Seth Green (along with a couple of legend wrestlers.) The gimmick has been going on for a month and shows no signs of slowing down.

The following quote is from that article: "Down the road, [Vince McMahon's daughter and WWE's executive vice-president of creative development and operation] Stephanie McMahon says the show plans to have as hosts Freddie Prinze Jr., who will promote his new role on the Fox TV show 24, former game show host Bob Barker, and the Reverend Al Sharpton (who hasn't yet said exactly what he'll be promoting). The upside for the stars is huge. According to McMahon, by providing promotions in upcoming shows, replaying shows on its Web site, and adding the pickup it gets from other news outlets, the show can offer as many as 40 million impressions for whatever its hosts might be promoting."

This would be neat, yet completely nonsensical to most wrestling fans. Even if they did bring him in, he'll just sleep with all of the Divas and then fire them for being too fat.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Joe Mello on August 05, 2009, 12:03:43 AM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'222022\' date=\'Aug 4 2009, 09:46 PM\']This would be neat, yet completely nonsensical to most wrestling fans.[/quote]
Has it been 13 years already? (http://\"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116483/\")

I'm sure Vince's cracker-jack writing staff </sarcasm> can think of something.

/Maybe he thought he was joining the WWF

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on August 05, 2009, 12:33:29 AM

But also, let's not forget (or for some, let's find out) that game show hosts in the WWE isn't necessarily (http://\"http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9213/vandb.jpg\") anything (http://\"http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2761/wm7e.jpg\") new (http://\"http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/263/wm8t.jpg\"). Someone who even partook in a match ended up as a current host (http://\"http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7226/rr201.jpg\")...

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 05, 2009, 03:59:36 AM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'222022\' date=\'Aug 4 2009, 06:46 PM\']This would be neat, yet completely nonsensical to most wrestling fans.[/quote]
And the Piven show WASN'T?

I was simultaneously embarrassed to be a wrestling fan and unable to turn away from the trainwreck...

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on August 05, 2009, 04:13:31 AM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'222036\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 03:59 AM\']And the Piven show WASN'T?[/quote]First off, I definitely agree. But, I think much of the demographic of Jeremy Piven's movies/Entourage and WWE overlap. I don't think (and I could be completely wrong) that the same people mixing their Metamucil and taking their diabeetus medication on their Hoverounds are buying "Suck it!" t-shirts. Then again, Barker has/had that frat boy attraction going for him..

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Fedya on August 05, 2009, 08:27:02 AM

Who's Jeremy Piven? (http://\"http://www.snpp.com/episodes/AABF09\")

Producer #1: The thirteen of us began with a singular vision --
"Titanic" meets "Frasier".
Producer #2: But then we found out that ABC had a similar project in
development with Annie Potts and Jeremy Piven.
Homer: Who's Jeremy Piven?
Producer #3: We don't know.
Producer #4: But it scared the hell out of us, so we slapped together
a cop show instead.

I don't have the premium cable channels, so I had no idea Jeremy Piven was still working anywhere....

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: MikeK on August 05, 2009, 10:23:24 AM

[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'222045\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 08:27 AM\']I don't have the premium cable channels, so I had no idea Jeremy Piven was still working anywhere....[/quote]
He was on The Tonight Show last night. Thus, he had something to plug.

/Only watched last night for the two female human cannonballs.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: calliaume on August 05, 2009, 10:41:37 AM

[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'222052\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 09:23 AM\']He was on The Tonight Show last night. Thus, he had something to plug.[/quote]
His new album, Mercury Rising?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on August 05, 2009, 10:46:42 AM

[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'222053\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 10:41 AM\'][quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'222052\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 09:23 AM\']He was on The Tonight Show last night. Thus, he had something to plug.[/quote]His new album, Mercury Rising?[/quote]
According to David Mamet, he's pursuing a career as a thermometer.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: BillCullen1 on August 05, 2009, 11:26:20 AM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'222022\' date=\'Aug 4 2009, 09:46 PM\']The following quote is from that article: "Down the road, [Vince McMahon's daughter and WWE's executive vice-president of creative development and operation] Stephanie McMahon says the show plans to have as hosts Freddie Prinze Jr., who will promote his new role on the Fox TV show 24, former game show host Bob Barker, and the Reverend Al Sharpton (who hasn't yet said exactly what he'll be promoting). The upside for the stars is huge. According to McMahon, by providing promotions in upcoming shows, replaying shows on its Web site, and adding the pickup it gets from other news outlets, the show can offer as many as 40 million impressions for whatever its hosts might be promoting."

This would be neat, yet completely nonsensical to most wrestling fans. Even if they did bring him in, he'll just sleep with all of the Divas and then fire them for being too fat.[/quote]

I hope they put Barker in the ring with a Samoan woman - it would serve him right!!

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: bandit_bobby on August 05, 2009, 02:18:25 PM

I would like to see Bob give away a car to an audience member on RAW with one of the WWE Divas modeling the car.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: LetsGoMets2003 on August 05, 2009, 05:27:25 PM

Betty White will not be happy. Per a new interview with Stephanie McMahon

http://bit.ly/SpVzX (http://\"http://bit.ly/SpVzX\")

(How many divas will Bob try to seduce? Bring on the bad puns, too.)

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: SRIV94 on August 05, 2009, 05:33:22 PM

Already being discussed here. (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18488\")

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Johnissoevil on August 05, 2009, 06:39:27 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'222036\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 03:59 AM\']And the Piven show WASN'T?

I was simultaneously embarrassed to be a wrestling fan and unable to turn away from the trainwreck...[/quote]

I hear ya. What I hated most was when they turned him heel just so that Cena could throw him and his sidekick around. What was the point in that?

/Barker on RAW?
//Someone call Adam Sandler, time for a rematch!

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Johnissoevil on August 05, 2009, 06:52:46 PM

[quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'222115\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 05:27 PM\']Betty White will not be happy. Per a new interview with Stephanie McMahon

http://bit.ly/SpVzX (http://\"http://bit.ly/SpVzX\")

(How many divas will Bob try to seduce? Bring on the bad puns, too.)[/quote]

Here's another bit of information pertaining to Price...

Tom Kennedy left the nighttime version.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: DoorNumberFour on August 05, 2009, 07:20:46 PM

[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'222125\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 06:52 PM\']Here's another bit of information pertaining to Price...

Tom Kennedy left the nighttime version.[/quote]
Already being discussed here. (http://\"http://www.golden-road.net\")

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 05, 2009, 07:58:06 PM

[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'222123\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 03:39 PM\']What I hated most was when they turned him heel just so that Cena could throw him and his sidekick around.[/quote]
Oh, the heel turn was epic in its WTF-ness.

/and what the fark was the deal with that sidekick?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: comicus on August 05, 2009, 08:07:03 PM

I haven't watched professional wrestling in about a year, and now pretty much consider myself an ex-fan... but I'd tune into this simply for the WTF factor. I get the feeling that it would re-affirm my abandonment of the fandom.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 05, 2009, 08:54:42 PM

[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'222133\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 05:07 PM\']I get the feeling that it would re-affirm my abandonment of the fandom.[/quote]
You have NO idea.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on August 06, 2009, 03:08:58 AM

This is coming from an old school wrestling fan...

Vince is doing the same thing that killed WCW almost a decade ago. Between Shaquille "Tell Me How My A** Tastes" O'Neal, Jeremy Piven, and Seth Green, this pretty much confirms that I am doing the right thing and giving up on the product.

Now, these people are thinking about Bob Barker? Seriously? Granted, he was on television for 50 years and pretty much carried TPIR to the 21st century, but getting him to connect to current fans and bring in new ones is reaching...and that's to say the very least.

Too bad TNA sucks worse...

The Inquisitive One

/another DX reunion...really?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on August 06, 2009, 11:12:05 AM

[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' post=\'222191\' date=\'Aug 6 2009, 03:08 AM\']Too bad TNA sucks worse...[/quote]Have you actually been keeping up with their shows? Because compared to Monday Night Raw, TNA is pretty darn good right now.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 06, 2009, 11:36:22 AM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'222207\' date=\'Aug 6 2009, 08:12 AM\']Because compared to Monday Night Raw, TNA is pretty darn good right now.[/quote]
Compared to Monday Night Raw, Manimal looks pretty good right now.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on August 06, 2009, 11:41:29 AM

[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'222052\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 09:23 AM\'][quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'222045\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 08:27 AM\']I don't have the premium cable channels, so I had no idea Jeremy Piven was still working anywhere....[/quote]
He was on The Tonight Show last night. Thus, he had something to plug.
[/quote]
He's got a movie coming out next weekend. That one about the used car lot, if I recall.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Monarx on August 07, 2009, 01:59:02 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'222210\' date=\'Aug 6 2009, 11:36 AM\'][quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'222207\' date=\'Aug 6 2009, 08:12 AM\']Because compared to Monday Night Raw, TNA is pretty darn good right now.[/quote]
Compared to Monday Night Raw, Manimal looks pretty good right now.
[/quote]

Of course, there's always Smackdown, ECW, and Superstars, which are all pretty good right now, and on Hulu to boot.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Adam Nedeff on August 07, 2009, 03:52:22 PM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'222033\' date=\'Aug 4 2009, 11:33 PM\']But also, let's not forget (or for some, let's find out) that game show hosts in the WWE isn't necessarily (http://\"http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9213/vandb.jpg\") anything (http://\"http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2761/wm7e.jpg\") new (http://\"http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/263/wm8t.jpg\"). Someone who even partook in a match ended up as a current host (http://\"http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7226/rr201.jpg\")...[/quote]
Game show hosts may have been involved in wrestling even longer than that. I'm still waiting for definitive proof that Bill Cullen and Gordon Solie were two different people.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on August 07, 2009, 04:29:49 PM

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: NickS on August 07, 2009, 04:46:13 PM

You know - if it weren't for that Lee Marshall clone on HDNet's ROH, I'd still be watching it.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: comicus on August 07, 2009, 11:34:39 PM

[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'222305\' date=\'Aug 7 2009, 03:52 PM\']Game show hosts may have been involved in wrestling even longer than that. I'm still waiting for definitive proof that Bill Cullen and Gordon Solie were two different people.[/quote]

[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'222309\' date=\'Aug 7 2009, 04:46 PM\']You know - if it weren't for that Lee Marshall clone on HDNet's ROH, I'd still be watching it.[/quote]

Insanely contrived connection between Bill Cullen and Lee Marshall: One of Cullen's earliest jobs in New York was as a writer for the radio show Easy Aces, created by Goodman Ace... Ace collaborated with Frank Wilson on NBC radio's The Big Show, hosted by Tallulah Bankhead... a frequest guest on that show was popular singer Frankie Laine... Thurl Ravenscroft, as a member of The Mellowmen, sang backup for Laine on a number of occasions... Ravenscroft voiced Tony the Tiger in ads for Kellogg's Frosted Flakes for decades until his death in 2005... when Ravenscroft died, Lee Marshall signed a contract with Kellogg's to become Tony's new voice.

Ta da.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Johnissoevil on August 09, 2009, 04:23:59 AM

[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'222305\' date=\'Aug 7 2009, 03:52 PM\']I'm still waiting for definitive proof that Bill Cullen and Gordon Solie were two different people.[/quote]

You too? I thought I was the only one that suspected that they were the same person...

/Did Gordon Solie toss...no, I'm not going there

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on August 09, 2009, 11:17:23 AM

[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'222329\' date=\'Aug 7 2009, 11:34 PM\']Insanely contrived connection between Bill Cullen and Lee Marshall: One of Cullen's earliest jobs in New York was as a writer for the radio show Easy Aces, created by Goodman Ace... Ace collaborated with Frank Wilson on NBC radio's The Big Show, hosted by Tallulah Bankhead... a frequest guest on that show was popular singer Frankie Laine... Thurl Ravenscroft, as a member of The Mellowmen, sang backup for Laine on a number of occasions... Ravenscroft voiced Tony the Tiger in ads for Kellogg's Frosted Flakes for decades until his death in 2005... when Ravenscroft died, Lee Marshall signed a contract with Kellogg's to become Tony's new voice.[/quote]
Lee Marshall worked with Bobby "The Brain" Heenan on a Women of Wrestling pay-per-view event. When Heenan first worked for the WWF, it was as the manager for Jesse Ventura. Jesse Ventura played Captain Freedom in The Running Man, a film which featured Richard Dawson as the evil game show host Killian. On a special week of Family Feud episodes, Richard Dawson welcomed ten famous game show hosts, among them Bill Cullen.

Ta da.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: MikeK on August 09, 2009, 12:04:17 PM

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'222370\' date=\'Aug 9 2009, 11:17 AM\']Lee Marshall worked with Bobby "The Brain" Heenan on a Women of Wrestling pay-per-view event. When Heenan first worked for the WWF, it was as the manager for Jesse Ventura. Jesse Ventura played Captain Freedom in The Running Man, a film which featured Richard Dawson as the evil game show host Killian. On a special week of Family Feud episodes, Richard Dawson welcomed ten famous game show hosts, among them Bill Cullen.

Ta da.[/quote]
Great. Matt's showing off his omnipotence again!

/All I got is Lee Marshall, Bill Cullen, and Bernie Solis are three people who have never been in my kitchen.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: comicus on August 09, 2009, 08:09:05 PM

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'222370\' date=\'Aug 9 2009, 11:17 AM\']Lee Marshall worked with Bobby "The Brain" Heenan on a Women of Wrestling pay-per-view event. When Heenan first worked for the WWF, it was as the manager for Jesse Ventura. Jesse Ventura played Captain Freedom in The Running Man, a film which featured Richard Dawson as the evil game show host Killian. On a special week of Family Feud episodes, Richard Dawson welcomed ten famous game show hosts, among them Bill Cullen.

Ta da.[/quote]

Ehh... partial credit. Don't recall Heenan ever working on any ladies' wrestling PPVs. The duo did announce together in WCW for a time, though, so you can make the connection that way.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on August 09, 2009, 08:54:02 PM

[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'222377\' date=\'Aug 9 2009, 08:09 PM\']Ehh... partial credit. Don't recall Heenan ever working on any ladies' wrestling PPVs.[/quote]Yeah. Don't ever doubt the Ottinger. (http://\"http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamWrestlingBiosH/heenan_feb01-can.html\")

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: comicus on August 12, 2009, 08:17:03 PM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'222378\' date=\'Aug 9 2009, 08:54 PM\'][quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'222377\' date=\'Aug 9 2009, 08:09 PM\']Ehh... partial credit. Don't recall Heenan ever working on any ladies' wrestling PPVs.[/quote]Yeah. Don't ever doubt the Ottinger. (http://\"http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamWrestlingBiosH/heenan_feb01-can.html\")
[/quote]
I stand corrected.

Man, the Brain must have been Ed McMahon broke to take that gig...

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: weaklink75 on August 17, 2009, 12:11:47 AM

Looks like it's going to happen at some point this year... (http://\"http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118007339.html?categoryId=14&cs=1\")

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chris319 on August 17, 2009, 01:36:51 AM

I recently had to explain to a co-worker who Thurl Ravenscroft was. Mr. Ravenscroft used to appear on Reverend Schooooooooooooooooler's (http://\"http://api.ning.com/files/h2EXCtDzmV4WYc6jf04lPi9bGjTa9V6oWP7OC-q57uVTgCcKQAAxAqoStRPzB1-afbpZ8hRv48gDDai5Ei*-Oe0iOYlU*t2-/robertschuller.jpg\") TV program from the Crystal Cathedral which for many years ran on the station said co-worker currently works for.

Mr. Ravenscroft also sang with the Johnny Mann singers. The group sang an a capella tone poem for San Francisco radio station KSFO when it was owned by Gene Autry's Golden West Broadcasting (together with KTLA). Mr. Lemon, you are too young to remember the tone poem.

To the best of my knowledge, Bill Cullen never met Gene Autry, Reverend Schooooooooooooooler, Johnny Mann or my co-worker.

Are we all clear on this?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 17, 2009, 02:23:16 AM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'223192\' date=\'Aug 16 2009, 10:36 PM\']The group sang an a capella tone poem for San Francisco radio station KSFO when it was owned by Gene Autry's Golden West Broadcasting (together with KTLA). Mr. Lemon, you are too young to remember the tone poem.[/quote]
Also KSFO was well outside of my listening range in Monterey. The furthest I could pull in FM stations from was San Jose.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: fishbulb on August 17, 2009, 11:44:26 AM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'223192\' date=\'Aug 16 2009, 10:36 PM\']I recently had to explain to a co-worker who Thurl Ravenscroft was. Mr. Ravenscroft used to appear on Reverend Schooooooooooooooooler's (http://\"http://api.ning.com/files/h2EXCtDzmV4WYc6jf04lPi9bGjTa9V6oWP7OC-q57uVTgCcKQAAxAqoStRPzB1-afbpZ8hRv48gDDai5Ei*-Oe0iOYlU*t2-/robertschuller.jpg\") TV program from the Crystal Cathedral which for many years ran on the station said co-worker currently works for.

Mr. Ravenscroft also sang with the Johnny Mann singers. The group sang an a capella tone poem for San Francisco radio station KSFO when it was owned by Gene Autry's Golden West Broadcasting (together with KTLA). Mr. Lemon, you are too young to remember the tone poem.

To the best of my knowledge, Bill Cullen never met Gene Autry, Reverend Schooooooooooooooler, Johnny Mann or my co-worker.

Are we all clear on this?[/quote]

I wouldn't touch this discussion with a... thirty-nine and a half foot pole.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: trainman on August 17, 2009, 09:34:41 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'223194\' date=\'Aug 16 2009, 11:23 PM\']Also KSFO was well outside of my listening range in Monterey. The furthest I could pull in FM stations from was San Jose.[/quote]

That's KSFO 560 (http://\"http://www.bayarearadio.org/audio/ksfo/index.shtml\"), which should be audible in Monterey, especially at night. Sister station to Gene Autry's KMPC in Los Angeles, which is now KSPN, and still has a nice old red brick transmitter building on Burbank Boulevard in the Valley, which had the "KMPC" letters removed at some point but retains a matching "50000 WATT STATION" slogan. Alas, they're building a bigger, uglier building right next to it.

Surely only two words are necessary to explain the existence of Mr. Ravenscroft to a young'un: "they're great." If that doesn't satisfy, you can use six more: "you're a mean one, Mr. Grinch."

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 17, 2009, 10:23:15 PM

[quote name=\'trainman\' post=\'223250\' date=\'Aug 17 2009, 06:34 PM\']That's KSFO 560 (http://\"http://www.bayarearadio.org/audio/ksfo/index.shtml\"), which should be audible in Monterey, especially at night.[/quote]
Yes, that's true. I think my dad might have listened to it every so often. My AM listening was pretty much confined to KGO and KNBR.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on August 21, 2009, 12:31:16 AM

This morning on 105.7 FM (The X) in the central Pennsylvania region, Barker did an interview where he confirmed that he will be hosting the September 7 episode of RAW, which will emanate from Chicago, IL.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on August 21, 2009, 05:29:38 PM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' date=\'Yesterday 9:31AM\']This morning on 105.7 FM (The X) in the central Pennsylvania region, Barker did an interview where he confirmed that he will be hosting the September 7 episode of RAW, which will emanate from Chicago, IL.[/quote]
Bobbo (who's frustrated monumental ego IMO obviously will not let him retire gracefully) is going to do this latest circling-the-drain attempt to stay in the public eye now, which is good because in a year or two today's generation of new game show fans will be saying;

TPIR
All new,
All Drew.
Bob who?

[quote name=\'chad1m\']Then again, Barker has/had that frat boy attraction going for him..[/quote]
I know the Spin Doctors repeatedly told us that the frat boy demographic was due to "Bob's cult-like following among college aged males", but really now, were those hormone driven frat boys tuning in to watch an old gray haired man, or the only hottie playmates wearing bathing suits on television at ten in the morning?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: tvrandywest on August 21, 2009, 05:40:56 PM

[quote name=\'trainman\' post=\'223250\' date=\'Aug 17 2009, 06:34 PM\']That's KSFO 560 (http://\"http://www.bayarearadio.org/audio/ksfo/index.shtml\"), which should be audible in Monterey, especially at night. Sister station to Gene Autry's KMPC in Los Angeles, which is now KSPN, and still has a nice old red brick transmitter building on Burbank Boulevard in the Valley, which had the "KMPC" letters removed at some point but retains a matching "50000 WATT STATION" slogan. Alas, they're building a bigger, uglier building right next to it....[/quote]
And sadly, that brick KMPC transmitter building was just demolished ;-(

After almost 70 years, it had "outlived its usefullness (I've felt like that), and has been replaced with a far less stylish little tan building on the same site. But we will always have its memory - it was the site of Wolfman Jack’s radio studio in the film "American Graffiti" and more recently the interior of that old broadcasting treasure trove was used in an episode of Fox TV’s "24".

Randy
tvrandywest.com

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 21, 2009, 05:46:00 PM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'223684\' date=\'Aug 21 2009, 02:29 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'222036\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 03:59 AM\']Then again, Barker has/had that frat boy attraction going for him..[/quote][/quote]
Please make sure you're attributing quotes to the right people going forward. I didn't say this.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on August 21, 2009, 05:51:54 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'223689\' date=\'Aug 21 2009, 02:46 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'223684\' date=\'Aug 21 2009, 02:29 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'222036\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 03:59 AM\']Then again, Barker has/had that frat boy attraction going for him..[/quote][/quote]
Please make sure you're attributing quotes to the right people going forward. I didn't say this.
[/quote]
I'm sorry. Hope I have it correctly now.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chris319 on August 21, 2009, 06:31:41 PM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'223552\' date=\'Aug 20 2009, 09:31 PM\']This morning on 105.7 FM (The X) in the central Pennsylvania region, Barker did an interview where he confirmed that he will be hosting the September 7 episode of RAW, which will emanate from Chicago, IL.[/quote]
Oh. My. Gawd. How the once-mighty have fallen. After this appearance he will no longer be circling the drain but will be headed straight for the sewage treatment plant. The last vestiges of his dignity as a performer will go right down the drain. I can't wait to see him get knocked senseless by a guy wielding a metal folding chair or by a run-in with a cafeteria table.

Quote

I know the Spin Doctors repeatedly told us that the frat boy demographic was due to "Bob's cult-like following among college aged males", but really now, were those hormone driven frat boys tuning in to watch an old gray haired man, or the only hottie playmates wearing bathing suits on television at ten in the morning?

The exposure he got from his appearance in Happy Gilmore didn't hurt, but yeah, you're right about those hotties.

Quote

And sadly, that brick KMPC transmitter building was just demolished ;-(

I hope they turned the transmitter off first :-)

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: bandit_bobby on August 30, 2009, 05:13:35 PM

It's been confirmed. (http://\"http://www.pwinsider.com/article/41084/labor-day-and-914-raw-guest-hosts-announced.html?p=1\")

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on August 30, 2009, 09:36:03 PM

[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'224475\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 05:13 PM\']It's been confirmed. (http://\"http://www.pwinsider.com/article/41084/labor-day-and-914-raw-guest-hosts-announced.html?p=1\")[/quote]By the exact same source I noted a couple posts back.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: LetsGoMets2003 on August 30, 2009, 09:39:07 PM

So now, the question is, what will he be doing on the show.

Flirting with the divas is obvious. I can't see him getting "punted" by Randy Orton. Any guesses?

(It's going to be a weird "mark-out" moment for me if Lillian Garcia introduces him and they play the TPiR theme. Let's see what kind of "pop" that gets from Chicago.)

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 30, 2009, 09:51:26 PM

[quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'224507\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 06:39 PM\']Flirting with the divas is obvious.[/quote]
That would surprise me a great deal, considering litigation about precisely that behavior is still in progress, is it not?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: LetsGoMets2003 on August 30, 2009, 10:40:16 PM

On second thought, perhaps Chris is right. If I can't come up with any ideas for an 80-something game show host on a professional wrestling program, imagine how WWE Creative must be feeling.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 30, 2009, 11:00:26 PM

[quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'224507\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 06:39 PM\'](It's going to be a weird "mark-out" moment for me if Lillian Garcia introduces him and they play the TPiR theme.[/quote]
It would be interesting to know, if they don't, *why* they don't. Either they don't want to pay for the rights...or Fremantle doesn't want to sell them.
[quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'224518\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 07:40 PM\']On second thought, perhaps Chris is right. If I can't come up with any ideas for an 80-something game show host on a professional wrestling program, imagine how WWE Creative must be feeling.[/quote]
Hey, this is why Steph Bear gets paid the big bucks, right?

/right?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: sumuffin on August 31, 2009, 12:34:17 AM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224523\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 11:00 PM\'][quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'224507\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 06:39 PM\'](It's going to be a weird "mark-out" moment for me if Lillian Garcia introduces him and they play the TPiR theme.[/quote]
It would be interesting to know, if they don't, *why* they don't. Either they don't want to pay for the rights...or Fremantle doesn't want to sell them.
[quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'224518\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 07:40 PM\']On second thought, perhaps Chris is right. If I can't come up with any ideas for an 80-something game show host on a professional wrestling program, imagine how WWE Creative must be feeling.[/quote]
Hey, this is why Steph Bear gets paid the big bucks, right?

/right?
[/quote]

Spin the Big Wheel, Make the Deal
"Have Your Pets spayed or neutered" Dog Collar Match
Instead of nearfalls, they will be called "one away"
Golden Road Ironman Match

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chris319 on August 31, 2009, 01:12:15 AM

I want to see Dian Parkinson beat him senseless with a metal folding chair and then have Paul Wight introduce his head to a cafeteria table.

Dian's "second" can be Nick Alden.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: parliboy on August 31, 2009, 01:19:09 AM

[quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'224518\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 09:40 PM\']On second thought, perhaps Chris is right. If I can't come up with any ideas for an 80-something game show host on a professional wrestling program, imagine how WWE Creative must be feeling.[/quote]

Eh, they can just do the Beat the Clock challenge with a twist. Have a lame skit where ~~wrestlers~~ ~~superstars~~ entertainers "bid" on how long a match will last, without going over, and the winner gets something.

/chairshot to the head for an exact bid.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on August 31, 2009, 01:33:19 AM

I was hoping they'd bring back a version of RAW Roulette (http://\"http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ckno_raw-roulette-2-highlights_sport\")

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Johnissoevil on August 31, 2009, 01:54:33 AM

They could always take three wrestlers and have them spin the big wheel. Whoever comes closest to $1 without going over gets a shot at Randy Orton at the end of the night. In the event of a tie, they can do a spin off. Those who don't qualify get a shot at Kofi Kingston's US title in a triple threat match.

/not the best idea, i know
//but it sure beats the crap out of the sh*t they write these days...

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: comicus on August 31, 2009, 04:48:33 PM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'224541\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 01:33 AM\']I was hoping they'd bring back a version of RAW Roulette (http://\"http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ckno_raw-roulette-2-highlights_sport\")[/quote]
My money's on this. Perhaps we'll also see a Mae Young cameo. (The newest "Barker's Beauty.")

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 31, 2009, 04:59:43 PM

[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'224571\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 01:48 PM\']Perhaps we'll also see a Mae Young cameo.[/quote]
Oh I hope I hope I hope I hope!!!!

/not really

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: BrandonFG on August 31, 2009, 05:08:18 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224573\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 04:59 PM\'][quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'224571\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 01:48 PM\']Perhaps we'll also see a Mae Young cameo.[/quote]
Oh I hope I hope I hope I hope!!!!

/not really
[/quote]
Wait...she's still alive?!

/Watched wrestling back in high school
//When Mae had just turned 110
///Still remember seeing her thrown through a table

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: comicus on August 31, 2009, 05:09:33 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224573\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 04:59 PM\'][quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'224571\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 01:48 PM\']Perhaps we'll also see a Mae Young cameo.[/quote]
Oh I hope I hope I hope I hope!!!!

/not really
[/quote]
"Why don't you hit on someone your own age, Bobbo?"

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 31, 2009, 05:11:50 PM

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'224574\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 02:08 PM\']Wait...she's still alive?![/quote]
Define "alive". Is she upright and able to move under her own power? Yes.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on August 31, 2009, 05:20:24 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224577\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 05:11 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'224574\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 02:08 PM\']Wait...she's still alive?![/quote]
Define "alive". Is she upright and able to move under her own power? Yes.[/quote]
And for the record, exactly nine months older than Mr. Barker.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: SRIV94 on August 31, 2009, 05:40:31 PM

[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'224575\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 04:09 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224573\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 04:59 PM\'][quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'224571\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 01:48 PM\']Perhaps we'll also see a Mae Young cameo.[/quote]
Oh I hope I hope I hope I hope!!!!

/not really
[/quote]
"Why don't you hit on someone your own age, Bobbo?"
[/quote]
They're bringing Regis in for this, too?

/Of course, Reege will call him "Bobo."

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on August 31, 2009, 09:08:20 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224512\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 06:51 PM\'][quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'224507\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 06:39 PM\']Flirting with the divas is obvious.[/quote]
That would surprise me a great deal, considering litigation about precisely that behavior is still in progress, is it not?
[/quote]
This latest lawsuit against Barker is based on his alleged policy of Racial Discrimination restricting the number of African American contestants per show, and the suit is against Barker for the Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress on the woman who reported it. No divas involved in this one.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chris319 on August 31, 2009, 09:39:31 PM

Quote

This latest lawsuit against Barker is based on his alleged policy of Racial Discrimination restricting the number of African American contestants per show, and the suit is against Barker for the Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress on the woman who reported it.

But didn't the judge decide that Barker wouldn't be a defendant in this suit?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: comicus on August 31, 2009, 10:07:47 PM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'224610\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 09:08 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224512\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 06:51 PM\'][quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'224507\' date=\'Aug 30 2009, 06:39 PM\']Flirting with the divas is obvious.[/quote]
That would surprise me a great deal, considering litigation about precisely that behavior is still in progress, is it not?
[/quote]
This latest lawsuit against Barker is based on his alleged policy of Racial Discrimination restricting the number of African American contestants per show, and the suit is against Barker for the Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress on the woman who reported it. No divas involved in this one.
[/quote]
Certainly not. For the uninitiated, "The Divas" is the collective name given to the WWE's various female wrestlers. (Just making sure nobody thinks anyone was insulting the female litigants.)

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on August 31, 2009, 10:10:28 PM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'224611\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 06:39 PM\']

Quote

This latest lawsuit against Barker is based on his alleged policy of Racial Discrimination restricting the number of African American contestants per show, and the suit is against Barker for the Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress on the woman who reported it.

But didn't the judge decide that Barker wouldn't be a defendant in this suit?
[/quote]
No, what the judge ruled was that Barker and Fremantle were not Curling's employer, CBS was. So Barker was removed as an "employer", but is still the defendant in the Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress (along with his boy Roger, 'cause hey, somebody had to do that retalliation dirty work.)

Typical of Barker and his Public Image Damage Control Squad/Deliberate Mis-information PR team, press releases flew out that made it appear as if Barker had been dismissed, when in fact Bobbo is still knee-deep in the lawsuit hoopla!

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on August 31, 2009, 10:47:23 PM

Well, the least we can do is come up with a decent drinking game for next Monday! Any ideas?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 31, 2009, 10:51:54 PM

[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'224625\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 07:47 PM\']Well, the least we can do is come up with a decent drinking game for next Monday! Any ideas?[/quote]
1) Acquire fifth of Jack Daniels
2) Drink entire fifth of Jack Daniels
3) Watch show, secure in the knowledge that you are now too drunk to claw your eyes out with a fork

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on August 31, 2009, 10:58:59 PM

Accompanied by a few moments of clips, it was indeed confirmed by WWE on RAW moments ago that he'll be the guest host next Monday.

/And yes, they did play the Price is Right theme with the announcement, and I assume he'll enter to it next week.
//The 2007 version, you nit-picker.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chris319 on August 31, 2009, 11:14:49 PM

Quote

3) Watch show, secure in the knowledge that you are now too drunk to claw your eyes out with a fork

Why would I want to claw my eyes out? I WANT to see octo-man's head go through that cafeteria table.

And people say Professor Price was a bad idea.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on August 31, 2009, 11:17:12 PM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'224633\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 08:14 PM\']Why would I want to claw my eyes out?[/quote]
Unless you've been watching the show regularly for the last couple of months like I have, you're just gonna have to trust me on this one.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 01, 2009, 02:37:25 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224627\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 07:51 PM\'][quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'224625\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 07:47 PM\']Well, the least we can do is come up with a decent drinking game for next Monday! Any ideas?[/quote]
1) Acquire fifth of Jack Daniels
2) Drink entire fifth of Jack Daniels
3) Watch show, secure in the knowledge that you are now too drunk to claw your eyes out with a fork
[/quote]
I LOVE THIS FORUM!!!

You guys are just too wicked funny. "Watch show, secure in the knowledge that you are now too drunk to claw your eyes out with a fork" ! ROTFL!

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: gaubster2 on September 02, 2009, 07:40:31 PM

WWE Hall of Famer Broadcaster Jim Ross posted an updated blog on his website (http://\"http://www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/bryan-danielsonrey-vs-morrisonam1560-gamevintage-bob-barker-story\"): ""The Price is Right" TV legend Bob Barker is an alleged lady's man so when "Mr. Come on Down" guest hosts Raw in Chicago it might be a good idea for the smart, sexy, powerful Divas of Raw to beware or it could be a "vintage" May to December romance opportunity. The late, Ray Combs of "Family Feud" fame told me many "tales" of Barker's legendary eye for the ladies. Not that there is anything wrong with that, for the record.

http://www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/bryan-daniels...ob-barker-story (http://\"http://www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/bryan-danielsonrey-vs-morrisonam1560-gamevintage-bob-barker-story\")

/Cue Pentellit response in 3...2...1...

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2009, 07:59:44 PM

Oh. My. God.

/again, approves (http://\"http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3324/joey7.jpg\")

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chris319 on September 02, 2009, 09:10:50 PM

The old buzzard has taken leave, that's all there is to it.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 02, 2009, 10:38:17 PM

[quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'224750\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 04:40 PM\']/Cue Pentellit response in 3...2...1...[/quote]
gaubster2, I would love to give a response, but I am 100% totally clueless about wrestling shows. I have never seen one. I read these posts and try to follow the thread, but it's like you're all speaking a foreign language. I wish I understood because I'm sure there are some juicy quips and great references going about, but I am totally clueless. The only tv wrestling I've ever seen is promos for it during commercials. (Sorry guys, I'm a TV Food Network kinda gal.)

But here's a question for you; is this tv wrestling real? What I've seen of it during the ten seconds it takes me to find the remote and change the channel, I gotta say it is horribly violent. I can't imagine that a human being, albiet a buff 250 pound side o' beef (with fabulous hair extensions BTW!) could survive the kinds of impacts that I see. Is it real?

And if it's not real, if it's all staged, then what's the attraction? I'm not being facetious here, I would genuinely like to understand the appeal. And also to know if it's real or not.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2009, 10:39:33 PM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'224768\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 07:38 PM\']And if it's not real, if it's all staged, then what's the attraction? I'm not being facetious here, I would genuinely like to understand the appeal. And also to know if it's real or not.[/quote]
It's the male version of a soap opera. Simple as that.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 02, 2009, 10:45:28 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224769\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 07:39 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'224768\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 07:38 PM\']And if it's not real, if it's all staged, then what's the attraction? I'm not being facetious here, I would genuinely like to understand the appeal. And also to know if it's real or not.[/quote]
It's the male version of a soap opera. Simple as that.
[/quote]
Do people or "characters" fall in love? (I like a good romance.)

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: J.R. on September 02, 2009, 10:48:23 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224769\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 09:39 PM\']It's the male version of a soap opera. Simple as that.[/quote]
Would you say Japanese Iron Chef fits in that category as well?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on September 02, 2009, 10:58:41 PM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'224771\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 10:45 PM\']Do people or "characters" fall in love? (I like a good romance.)[/quote]They sure do. And then they fall in love for real and before you know it, one of 'em's set to run the company in a few years.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 02, 2009, 11:32:18 PM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'224776\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 07:58 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'224771\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 10:45 PM\']Do people or "characters" fall in love? (I like a good romance.)[/quote]They sure do. And then they fall in love for real and before you know it, one of 'em's set to run the company in a few years.
[/quote]
Now see, there's another wrestling reference that I don't get. (I can pretty much figure it out though, but I still don't get it.)

So based on clemon79 saying wrestling is like a male soap opera, and since soap operas aren't real, I'm making the assumption that wrestling is not real. I'm also basing it on a simple knowledge of human physiology and crash test dummies.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chris319 on September 02, 2009, 11:45:00 PM

Your common TV wrestling is most decidedly NOT for real. The outcomes are 100% predetermined. The guys and gals are, however, fabulous acrobats and utilize many of the tricks stunt people use. For example, if I land a punch on someone else, I don't have to connect very hard, but if the other guy reels from it (or looks like he's reeling) it looks like my blow was devastating. If the guy I punch is merely acting, staggers around, falls over backwards, doubles over in pain, etc., it's 99% due to his acting and 1% due to the blow I landed. As I say, they are master illusionists.

They also invent silly plot lines and rivalries.

No wrestler wants to inflict genuine injury to his opponent because he's going to need to wrestle that same guy the next week or the next day in the next city.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2009, 11:53:50 PM

[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'224772\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 07:48 PM\']Would you say Japanese Iron Chef fits in that category as well?[/quote]
Not as much.

/the computers on my home network are all named after Iron Chefs

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: jalman on September 02, 2009, 11:55:31 PM

It's still real to me! *sobs (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI\")*

/Real as in non-animated, non-fictitious
// Punches are SUPPOSED to illegal in a normal match
/// However, logic and sticking to rules is not always fully enforced
//// This (http://\"http://www.nfb.ca/film/hitman_hart_wrestling_with_shadows/\") should be shown in "Pro Wrestling 101" courses.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: tvrandywest on September 03, 2009, 12:32:01 AM

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. And no, Pentellit, TV wrestling is not real. In fact, it never was.

In researching the bio on Johnny Olson, I was all over the history of the DuMont TV network where two guys we all know and who worked together at TPiR, Johnny and Dennis James started their TV careers in the late 1940s. Both announced the earliest TV wrestling and boxing for DuMont.

The sports were chosen because they were in a small, enclosed, controlled, well-lit, indoor environment - a roped-off ring - that could be covered with only two cameras. It was far easier to broadcast than baseball or football.

They quickly found ways to adapt the two sports for TV. Boxing had timed 3-minute rounds that allowed for regular commercial breaks. For wrestling, a sport without regular timed segments, a stage manager on headset was positioned beneath the springy, padded floor of the ring and would bang on the bottom of the ring when it was time for a commercial. The good guy would pin the bad guy, the referee would count to three and John/Dennis would cue the commercial.

It's now a huge, multi-million dollar sport, and, like Johnny and Dennis, Georgeous George, Gorilla Monsoon and Haystack Calhoun are all long gone. But some things haven't changed ;-)

Randy
tvrandywest.com

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 03, 2009, 12:50:12 AM

[quote name=\'jalman\' post=\'224787\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 08:55 PM\']///This (http://\"http://www.nfb.ca/film/hitman_hart_wrestling_with_shadows/\") should be shown in "Pro Wrestling 101" courses.[/quote]
Thanks Chris and Randy for further elaborating and explaining tv wrestling. Now I can at least better understand and appreciate the athletics, body building, and the theatre and choreography of the sport, (is it considered a "sport"?)

In a sincere effort to educate myself further I did watch the "It's Real To Me" clip from YouTube. But when I opened the Pro Wrestling 101 video and saw it was 93 minutes long (!) I decided to just take you guy's word for it!

It's like the old joke about the basic difference between men and women; "Men like the Three Stooges."

'nuff said!

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: comicus on September 03, 2009, 01:02:38 AM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'224768\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 10:38 PM\'][quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'224750\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 04:40 PM\']/Cue Pentellit response in 3...2...1...[/quote]
gaubster2, I would love to give a response, but I am 100% totally clueless about wrestling shows. I have never seen one. I read these posts and try to follow the thread, but it's like you're all speaking a foreign language. I wish I understood because I'm sure there are some juicy quips and great references going about, but I am totally clueless. The only tv wrestling I've ever seen is promos for it during commercials. (Sorry guys, I'm a TV Food Network kinda gal.)

But here's a question for you; is this tv wrestling real? What I've seen of it during the ten seconds it takes me to find the remote and change the channel, I gotta say it is horribly violent. I can't imagine that a human being, albiet a buff 250 pound side o' beef (with fabulous hair extensions BTW!) could survive the kinds of impacts that I see. Is it real?

And if it's not real, if it's all staged, then what's the attraction? I'm not being facetious here, I would genuinely like to understand the appeal. And also to know if it's real or not.
[/quote]
Wrestling is an athletic exhibition meant to resemble spirited combat. Scripted "storylines" are written to gin up viewers/fans' interest in seeing the wrestlers fight. The wrestlers, for their part, make every effort to make the performance look real, including taking dangerous falls (known as "bumps" in insider lingo) and sometimes allowing themselves to be hit with weapons. These things don't tickle, and it takes either an extraordinary athlete (Kurt Angle, Shawn Michaels) or a complete nut (Mick Foley) to successfully pull off the charade.

Many older wrestlers come away from their careers with crippling injuries, and many more suffer through those injuries during their career. Some wrestle much longer than they ought to simply because they can't bring themselves to do anything else (see the movie "The Wrestler" for a fine dramatization of such a life). Those very real injuries quite often lead to very real drug addictions, which have claimed dozens of young lives or, in rare and more tragic circumstances (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit_double_murder_and_suicide\"), led them to madness.

But yeah, Food Network is decidedly more "real," even if I do sometimes wish to see Bobby Flay take a folding chair to the head. :P

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 03, 2009, 01:11:39 AM

[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'224794\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 10:02 PM\']But yeah, Food Network is decidedly more "real," even if I do sometimes wish to see Bobby Flay take a folding chair to the head. :P[/quote]
Or see Mario Batalli get Flay in a Koji Clutch? (See, I am learning!)

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: jalman on September 03, 2009, 01:51:35 AM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'224795\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 01:11 AM\']Or see Mario Batalli get Flay in a Koji Clutch? (See, I am learning!)[/quote]
Hehe, submission holds like the Koji Clutch (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfQ9YCvnVSU\") at their best build the drama of the match. Although you're more likely will see stuff like bear hugs, full nelsons, etc.

The second I link posted (Wrestling with Shadows, which some fans still oddly insist was faked) surrounds this event (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxSSgYxyApM\"). The Montreal Screwjob stands as one of the realities of (modern) pro wrestling: the rampaging egos. Also, there was the Monday Night Wars (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monday_night_wars\") between rival companies WCW and WWF (now WWE).

[quote name=\'Wikipedia\']The Montreal Screwjob (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Montreal_Screwjob&oldid=310806288\") was the real life double-crossing of defending WWF Champion Bret Hart by Vince McMahon, the owner of the World Wrestling Federation (WWF), during the main event match of the professional wrestling pay-per-view event Survivor Series held on November 9, 1997...

[...]

The reason for this screwjob was rooted in Hart's decision to leave McMahon's company for its chief competitor, World Championship Wrestling (WCW), after McMahon told Hart that financial problems would not allow him to keep Hart on under his recently signed 20 year contract.[/quote]

/I don't think Gorgeous George gets enough credit for his influence upon pro wrestling, or even pop culture.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: gaubster2 on September 04, 2009, 01:43:59 AM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'224768\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 07:38 PM\'][quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'224750\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 04:40 PM\']/Cue Pentellit response in 3...2...1...[/quote]
gaubster2, I would love to give a response, but I am 100% totally clueless about wrestling shows. I have never seen one. I read these posts and try to follow the thread, but it's like you're all speaking a foreign language. I wish I understood because I'm sure there are some juicy quips and great references going about, but I am totally clueless. The only tv wrestling I've ever seen is promos for it during commercials. (Sorry guys, I'm a TV Food Network kinda gal.)

But here's a question for you; is this tv wrestling real? What I've seen of it during the ten seconds it takes me to find the remote and change the channel, I gotta say it is horribly violent. I can't imagine that a human being, albiet a buff 250 pound side o' beef (with fabulous hair extensions BTW!) could survive the kinds of impacts that I see. Is it real?

And if it's not real, if it's all staged, then what's the attraction? I'm not being facetious here, I would genuinely like to understand the appeal. And also to know if it's real or not.
[/quote]

Pentellit, I thought you might have a quip about the fact that Bob Barker @ 83 years old (or so) is the "guest host" (similar to SNL) of a scripted, "sports entertainment" event in which the only thing of note for him to promote would be his book. (Which I don't think the WWE target demographic is much interested in.) The Ray Combs reference about Barker's attitude towards the ladies is something I thought you might comment on.

The Barker appearance may make for fascinating tv.

/note I didn't say "good" tv

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 04, 2009, 02:54:35 AM

[quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'224887\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 10:43 PM\']Pentellit, I thought you might have a quip about the fact that Bob Barker @ 83 years old (or so) is the "guest host" (similar to SNL) of a scripted, "sports entertainment" event in which the only thing of note for him to promote would be his book. (Which I don't think the WWE target demographic is much interested in.) The Ray Combs reference about Barker's attitude towards the ladies is something I thought you might comment on.The Barker appearance may make for fascinating tv./note I didn't say "good" tv[/quote]
Well since I won't be watching, nor I suspect many people who actually worked with the creepy old bastard, you guys watch it. Most likely I'm going to be home watching something really interesting, like re-runs of Lifetime Movie Network's sexiest secret movies.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chris319 on September 04, 2009, 03:48:44 AM

Pentellit, wrestling is one of those things you must watch just once in your life in order to have a well-rounded life experience. I can understand your not wanting to watch while the old buzzard Barker is on, but do watch it after he's gone. It's like going to the ballet or a Broadway play or an art museum or the Demolition Derby. I have done all of those things and have watched wrestling on TV, and my life is just that much richer for having done them.

Now you can watch with the perspective of knowing it's all fake.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 04, 2009, 11:54:39 PM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'224893\' date=\'Sep 4 2009, 12:48 AM\']Pentellit, wrestling is one of those things you must watch just once in your life in order to have a well-rounded life experience.[/quote]
Ok, I can do that. But do they have any shows upcoming that aren't so violent? I get now that it's staged, but still....it's so horrible to watch a person do (or fake doing) such painful and brutal things to another (it makes me cover my eyes with a couch pillow. Ouch!)

Signed, Pentellit (aka Big Wussy Baby )

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Loogaroo on September 05, 2009, 05:05:09 AM

While not a fan of pro wrestling, I have enough friends who are big fans of it to appreciate what's going on and why it needs to be scripted. (Mainly because if it wasn't, the average wrestler's career would last maybe, maybe, five matches, before spending the rest of their productive lives in traction.)

The key thing to understand is that pro wrestling isn't all about piledrivers and body slams. Storytelling also plays a major element, with stand-up segments and skits helping to set up the conflicts that are to take place in the future. Two random wrestlers don't just climb into a ring and beat each other's brains out; there's a backstory and profile for each character, and the match you're seeing has probably been percolating for weeks.

As for the whole "non-violent" angle, you're kinda asking for non-dairy ice cream there. Such a thing might exist, but you probably wouldn't want it anyway. Steer clear of gimmick matches like the ladder or table matches, and avoid non-disqualification bouts, since that's where the folding chairs and other paraphenalia come into play. Other than that, it's really a matter of the style that the two wrestlers employ, and like I said I'm not well-versed enough in that to really make any recommendations. If anything, just remember: every move you see, no matter how brutal, was carefully planned ahead of time. Like I said, it has to be, otherwise everyone would break their neck after a week.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chris319 on September 05, 2009, 10:36:37 AM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225006\' date=\'Sep 4 2009, 08:54 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'224893\' date=\'Sep 4 2009, 12:48 AM\']Pentellit, wrestling is one of those things you must watch just once in your life in order to have a well-rounded life experience.[/quote]
Ok, I can do that. But do they have any shows upcoming that aren't so violent? I get now that it's staged, but still....it's so horrible to watch a person do (or fake doing) such painful and brutal things to another (it makes me cover my eyes with a couch pillow. Ouch!)

Signed, Pentellit (aka Big Wussy Baby)[/quote]
Knowing it's fake, just watch as much as you can stand. Unless it's Bob Barker being beaten senseless, then watch the whole thing.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: gaubster2 on September 06, 2009, 12:49:40 AM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225022\' date=\'Sep 5 2009, 07:36 AM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225006\' date=\'Sep 4 2009, 08:54 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'224893\' date=\'Sep 4 2009, 12:48 AM\']Pentellit, wrestling is one of those things you must watch just once in your life in order to have a well-rounded life experience.[/quote]
Ok, I can do that. But do they have any shows upcoming that aren't so violent? I get now that it's staged, but still....it's so horrible to watch a person do (or fake doing) such painful and brutal things to another (it makes me cover my eyes with a couch pillow. Ouch!)

Signed, Pentellit (aka Big Wussy Baby)[/quote]
Knowing it's fake, just watch as much as you can stand. Unless it's Bob Barker being beaten senseless, then watch the whole thing.
[/quote]

Pentellit, think of it as Cirque de Soleil. Its a performance in which the storylines don't always make much sense. There are acrobatics and pretend fighting. Costumes and choreography may not be as elaborate, but the audience participation can sometimes make or break a show.

For the record, the "Guest Host" gets to have "unlimited" power to make matches and stipulations between wrestlers. So watching in that context may help clarify this coming Monday night's events.

Let us know what you think if you do watch!

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 06, 2009, 03:09:40 PM

[quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'225088\' date=\'Sep 5 2009, 09:49 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'225022\' date=\'Sep 5 2009, 07:36 AM\']Knowing it's fake, just watch as much as you can stand. Unless it's Bob Barker being beaten senseless, then watch the whole thing.[/quote]
Pentellit, think of it as Cirque de Soleil. Its a performance in which the storylines don't always make much sense. There are acrobatics and pretend fighting. Let us know what you think if you do watch![/quote]
Re: Barker's appearance Clemon79 had me ROTFL with;
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224627\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 07:51 PM\']1) Acquire fifth of Jack Daniels
2) Drink entire fifth of Jack Daniels
3) Watch show, secure in the knowledge that you are now too drunk to claw your eyes out with a fork.[/quote]
But no, not enough Jack D. in the world to make me watch that slimey old bastard.

But if there's something coming up that would meet the criteria that Loogaroo suggested ("Steer clear of gimmick matches like the ladder or table matches, and avoid non-disqualification bouts"...), something that would be a good entree into the world of wrestling I would definitely try it now. I LOVE Cirque de Soleil. I even love the Fruit of the Loom Cirque de Soleil style commercial! And I reeeeally love big, buff, beefy guys running around nearly naked!

And if it could have just a little romance......

Nah, that's probably asking too much!

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Robair on September 06, 2009, 03:39:39 PM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225006\' date=\'Sep 4 2009, 11:54 PM\']Ok, I can do that. But do they have any shows upcoming that aren't so violent? I get now that it's staged, but still....it's so horrible to watch a person do (or fake doing) such painful and brutal things to another (it makes me cover my eyes with a couch pillow. Ouch!)

Signed, Pentellit (aka Big Wussy Baby )[/quote]
You know that TV rating box which precedes any ENTERTAINMENT TV show (its very presence on wrestling shows is a huge clue right there about its authenticity) and does not precede any live sporting event? Just watch it when there are the minimum of letters on the bottom. D. L. S. V. Especially V. Maybe a show which has an S will have the romance you crave. It may just be divas kissing, but what the hell.

Or you can go onto YouTube and watch before it became el grande de melodrama. Like Bruno Sammartino, Big Jay Strongbow, or the best little wrestler ever, Sky Lo Lo. Lots of cool 60s and 70s style bouts.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Joe Mello on September 06, 2009, 03:47:11 PM

I totally expect Bob to punch out or karate chop whoever the Heel of the Week is.

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224627\' date=\'Aug 31 2009, 10:51 PM\']1) Acquire fifth of Jack Daniels
2) Drink entire fifth of Jack Daniels
3) Watch show, secure in the knowledge that you are now too drunk to claw your eyes out with a fork[/quote]
This is probably what I should have done while recapping Temptation.

/Barker'll skin you alive
//As long as nobody wears the skin

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on September 06, 2009, 04:21:54 PM

pentellit (and for anyone else), I think I've got the perfect introduction to show you what modern pro wrestling is all about: A thirty minute classic, The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels at this year's WrestleMania 25 (http://\"http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoafJiiO.html\"). (The audio on the clip is unfortunately about four seconds out of sync.) WrestleMania is WWE's flagship pay-per-view extravaganza, usually featuring the best athletes and matches the company has to offer. (I was lucky enough to go to 'Mania 23 at Ford Field.) The story going into this match is that The Undertaker has been in WWE since 1990 and, prior to the match, has wrestled at sixteen WrestleManias, never losing a match. Since he's such a legend, not only is it a big deal to face the Undertaker, but to defeat him at "his" show is huge.

On the other hand, his opponent Shawn Michaels (also a legend in the sport) is known as "Mr. WrestleMania." While he doesn't have the Undertaker's undefeated streak, he is known for always bringing the goods at WrestleMania, consistently delivering exciting matches. These two are the longest-serving members of WWE's roster, and you can see why they've captivated so many people's imaginations and retained their spot for so many years. I hope you'll watch and enjoy.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on September 07, 2009, 01:11:55 AM

[quote name=\'Robair\' post=\'225134\' date=\'Sep 6 2009, 02:39 PM\']Or you can go onto YouTube and watch before it became el grande de melodrama. Like Bruno Sammartino, Big Jay Strongbow, or the best little wrestler ever, Sky Lo Lo. Lots of cool 60s and 70s style bouts.[/quote]
A Winner Is You.

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'225140\' date=\'Sep 6 2009, 03:21 PM\']pentellit (and for anyone else), I think I've got the perfect introduction to show you what modern pro wrestling is all about: A thirty minute classic, The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels at this year's WrestleMania 25 (http://\"http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoafJiiO.html\").

...These two are the longest-serving members of WWE's roster, and you can see why they've captivated so many people's imaginations and retained their spot for so many years. I hope you'll watch and enjoy.[/quote]
And you.

/I get to be Star Man
//You two can choose between the 6 that aren't Star Man.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jumpondees on September 07, 2009, 09:09:04 PM

I hope this gets better as the night goes on....

I'd love to see something that eclipses Bob's Happy Gilmore moment

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: byrd62 on September 07, 2009, 09:15:50 PM

[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'225282\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 09:09 PM\']I hope this gets better as the night goes on....[/quote]

Veteran WWE ring announcer Howard Finkel ["The Fink"] did his best Johnny/Rod/Rich on the show. The Contestants' Row displays had that video-board look. Nice bit between Bob and Chris Jericho, too.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: tpirfan28 on September 07, 2009, 09:16:15 PM

I tried - made it fourteen minutes before turning it off and stopping the DVR recording. I never have watched professional wrestling - tonight was the first - and last try at watching. Just not into it (and all the extra dramatics was too much for me).

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 07, 2009, 09:18:12 PM

[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'225282\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 06:09 PM\']I hope this gets better as the night goes on....[/quote]
Honestly? My initial thought after the first segment was "Ya know, this could have been much worse."

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I'd love to see something that eclipses Bob's Happy Gilmore moment

Like that.

(Of course, we have the rest of the show to go yet...)

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: opimus on September 07, 2009, 09:21:36 PM

How much did the WWE pay Fremantle to use the TPIR music format and logos? Idid like did read outs in thier fake contestant row,

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jumpondees on September 07, 2009, 09:22:42 PM

Allow me to hijack the thread by asking the mid-thread question, barring a drop dead hilarious "priceless" memory.

--Will this public appearance enhance or tarnish Bob's legacy?

I'll be the first to answer with...

...Who cares, Vince McMahon rents a television legend for two hours for about the cost of what I would assume would be a sizable donation to one of Bob's favorite animal causes.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on September 07, 2009, 09:28:45 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225286\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 08:18 PM\'][quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'225282\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 06:09 PM\']I hope this gets better as the night goes on....[/quote]
Honestly? My initial thought after the first segment was "Ya know, this could have been much worse."
[/quote]
It was better than I expected, and it was nice that they copied the Price intro. Bob got a nice Standing O (from the crowd, not Dian), and I'm just taking this for what it is gonna be: a two hour product promotion special, just using the Price themed show as an excuse to place more WWE swag on TV. Price in a stadium looks kinda cool, though.

Anybody else think that Barker was wondering "Man, we should have done more road shows so I could draw more crowds like this"?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 07, 2009, 09:37:51 PM

[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'225289\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 09:22 PM\']--Will this public appearance enhance or tarnish Bob's legacy?[/quote]
I'd seriously entertain that question if we were talking about Nelson Mandela or something.

He's a game show host. Do you really think appearing on a wrestling program is a significant step down?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jumpondees on September 07, 2009, 10:02:54 PM

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'225291\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 09:37 PM\']He's a game show host. Do you really think appearing on a wrestling program is a significant step down?[/quote]

Matt, let me with great respect, answer that with this...

Do you think Bob really (and I stress in Ace Ventura: Pet Detective style, "re-he-HE-HEel-ly") needed to appear on a wrestling show?

I mean truthfully, of all the projects he could possibly do, what would have ultimately brought Bob to decide to show up and do pro wrestling for reasons other than money?

My whole mindset is that although I'd be watching wrestling tonight anyway, I'm of the feeble position that Bob Barker is "above" this kind of "live theater" and could have found something more entertaining to do with two+ hours of his time.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: davemackey on September 07, 2009, 10:05:53 PM

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: LetsGoMets2003 on September 07, 2009, 10:48:01 PM

Guys, if you were expecting serious professional wrestling (that's an oxymoron, but you know what I'm trying to say), tune in TNA, Ring of Honor or any other promotion you wish. This was just about having fun, and I enjoyed it. And I haven't said that about wrestling in a long time.

"Two words: Spin It."

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 07, 2009, 10:49:38 PM

[quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'225300\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 07:48 PM\']Guys, if you were expecting serious professional wrestling, tune in TNA[/quote]
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Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 07, 2009, 10:50:05 PM

[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'225285\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 09:16 PM\']I tried - made it fourteen minutes before turning it off and stopping the DVR recording.[/quote]
My TiVo actually rebelled. At ten, it switched away to record a long-forgotten episode of Castle that my wife missed the first time around.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 07, 2009, 10:55:26 PM

[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'225292\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 10:02 PM\']Do you think Bob really (and I stress in Ace Ventura: Pet Detective style, "re-he-HE-HEel-ly") needed to appear on a wrestling show?[/quote]
Bob probably hasn't re-he-HEEL-ly needed to work since the mid 1980s.
[quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'225292\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 10:02 PM\']I'm of the feeble position that Bob Barker is "above" this kind of "live theater"[/quote]
It is, in fact, a very feeble position. Bob has essentially been doing this sort of "live theater" his entire career. Fundamentally, appearing on a wrestling show and appearing on a game show are not markedly different. They both are generally looked down upon by the rest of the entertainment community.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: gaubster2 on September 07, 2009, 11:55:43 PM

Well, that wasn't the train wreck I thought it could have been.

That says a lot, considering that it is WWE. I was entertained; it could have been much worse.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Johnissoevil on September 07, 2009, 11:55:46 PM

I lol'd at Santino thinking he was on Wheel when it was his turn to bid. "I'd like to buy a vowel."

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 08, 2009, 12:02:07 AM

[quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'225308\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 08:55 PM\']Well, that wasn't the train wreck I thought it could have been.

That says a lot, considering that it is WWE. I was entertained; it could have been much worse.[/quote]
The low point of the show was that idiotic karate chop segment with Chavo. Other'n that, they kept his bits to "hosting Price Is Right" stuff. Certainly it was more tolerable than Seth Green or Jeremy Piven, who were both embarrassing.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Johnissoevil on September 08, 2009, 01:17:31 AM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225310\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 12:02 AM\']The low point of the show was that idiotic karate chop segment with Chavo. Other'n that, they kept his bits to "hosting Price Is Right" stuff. Certainly it was more tolerable than Seth Green or Jeremy Piven, who were both embarrassing.[/quote]

I liked the segment he did with DX. Being the smartasses that they are, I would've booked them to confuse him with other hosts.

Shawn: Hey, look, it's Chuck Woolery!
Hunter: Chuck Woolery? No way man. That's Wink Martindale!

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: gaubster2 on September 08, 2009, 01:24:04 AM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225310\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 09:02 PM\'][quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'225308\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 08:55 PM\']Well, that wasn't the train wreck I thought it could have been.

That says a lot, considering that it is WWE. I was entertained; it could have been much worse.[/quote]
The low point of the show was that idiotic ~~karate chop~~ segment with Chavo.
[/quote]

Fixed that for you. Actually, that statement applies to the last several weeks of Chavo's segments on Raw and probably the next couple of weeks to come.

Seriously, who's corn flakes did Chavo wee-wee in to get buried like he is? At least Santino is hilarious to watch.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 08, 2009, 01:46:55 AM

[quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'225322\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 10:24 PM\']Fixed that for you.[/quote]
And correctly so, thank you. Reminds me of Orlando Jordan's jobfest against Chris Benoit.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Johnissoevil on September 08, 2009, 02:06:07 AM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225323\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 01:46 AM\']And correctly so, thank you. Reminds me of Orlando Jordan's jobfest against Chris Benoit.[/quote]

Orlando Jordan actually existed? I thought he was a figment of my imagination. BTW, I fixed the reference you made to that other non-existant wrestler.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: gaubster2 on September 08, 2009, 02:38:30 AM

For those of you who didn't watch (or don't care), I was heartened to hear TWO references to Johnny Olson by name tonight (one by Barker, himself)! The fact that Johnny's name is still mentioned out loud (and on some wrestling news websites as people remember him as the announcer) is a testament to the talent and mainstream appeal that Johnny had.

I still cannot wait for Randy's book to come out!

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: rwalker on September 08, 2009, 10:20:15 AM

[quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'225326\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 02:38 AM\']For those of you who didn't watch (or don't care), I was heartened to hear TWO references to Johnny Olson by name tonight (one by Barker, himself)! The fact that Johnny's name is still mentioned out loud (and on some wrestling news websites as people remember him as the announcer) is a testament to the talent and mainstream appeal that Johnny had.

I still cannot wait for Randy's book to come out![/quote]

That, and Bobarino talking down to the Jericho guy were the best parts of it. With Tivo, you can pause it, go to the neighbors, come back, and skip through the wrastling b.s., and watch the parts that we game show fans wanted to see.

Bob had his usual "refrigerator" line also at the beginning

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on September 08, 2009, 10:52:04 AM

[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'225309\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 10:55 PM\']I lol'd at Santino thinking he was on Wheel when it was his turn to bid. "I'd like to buy a vowel."[/quote]
Between that and Santino calling Bob "Roberto", he was definitely the highlight of the show. As a matter of fact, most of the time Santino is the ONLY amusing part of Monday Night Raw.

BTW, I.R.S.? Really? C'mon, WWE, your overloaded roster is so crappy that you actually went out and dug up I.R.S?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 08, 2009, 11:53:39 AM

[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'225341\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 07:52 AM\']BTW, I.R.S.? Really? C'mon, WWE, your overloaded roster is so crappy that you actually went out and dug up I.R.S?[/quote]
1) They don't have to go out and dig him up; Rotunda works for the company as a road agent, same as Sgt. Slaughter, same as Ron Simmons. (Damn.)

2) I.R.S. RULES. The man walks into the ring and gets an arena-ful of heat just by saying "Have you paid your TAXES?" That, sir, is the sign of a quality heel.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: cmjb13 on September 08, 2009, 12:36:26 PM

How has Barker's book being doing? I'm wondering if he really did this because sales of his book haven't been what he expected.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jeremy Nelson on September 08, 2009, 01:37:13 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225349\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 10:53 AM\'][quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'225341\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 07:52 AM\']BTW, I.R.S.? Really? C'mon, WWE, your overloaded roster is so crappy that you actually went out and dug up I.R.S?[/quote]
1) They don't have to go out and dig him up; Rotunda works for the company as a road agent, same as Sgt. Slaughter, same as Ron Simmons. (Damn.)
[/quote]
Shows how much I know- I knew about Simmons and Slaughter, but I didn't know I.R.S. was a roadie. I just looked him up, and he's better than I thought- I had assumed he was just one of DiBiase's lackeys, like Virgil.

Quote

2) I.R.S. RULES. The man walks into the ring and gets an arena-ful of heat just by saying "Have you paid your TAXES?" That, sir, is the sign of a quality heel.

I have to disagree with you on that one. I often found wrestlers who were just straight up jerks (Like Edge) to be more fun to hate than wrestlers who had heel gimmicks that were just stereotypical "people to hate". For example, Muhammad Hassan is anti- American, and played to that gimmick, but he never gave me a reason to hate him other than his constant cries of "I Hate America!!!!!". Of course, people booed at that and started a USA! chant. Same with taxes. People don't like em, and if you're preaching that people should be paying them, of course you're gonna get booed too. I'll give I.R.S. the benefit of the doubt, cause I haven't seen much of his material, but I just don't think that having a gimmick with a built in bias makes you a quality heel.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Joe Mello on September 08, 2009, 01:39:24 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225349\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 11:53 AM\']2) I.R.S. RULES. The man walks into the ring and gets an arena-ful of heat just by saying "Have you paid your TAXES?" That, sir, is the sign of a quality heel.[/quote]
As an outsider, I'd attribute that more to the material.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jumpondees on September 08, 2009, 02:16:54 PM

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225349\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 11:53 AM\'][quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'225341\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 07:52 AM\']BTW, I.R.S.? Really? C'mon, WWE, your overloaded roster is so crappy that you actually went out and dug up I.R.S?[/quote]
1) They don't have to go out and dig him up; Rotunda works for the company as a road agent
[/quote]

Rotunda I think for many fans is, and always will be remembered for playing Irwin R. Schyster in the 1990's, but before this gimmick he had a great run in WCW, NWA, WWF(E), and in his time in All-Japan pro wrestling.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Jumpondees on September 08, 2009, 02:19:51 PM

[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'225341\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 10:52 AM\'][quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'225309\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 10:55 PM\']I lol'd at Santino thinking he was on Wheel when it was his turn to bid. "I'd like to buy a vowel."[/quote]
Between that and Santino calling Bob "Roberto", he was definitely the highlight of the show. As a matter of fact, most of the time Santino is the ONLY amusing part of Monday Night Raw.
[/quote]

I think if I heard right, I believed Bob called Santino, "San-tin-i-o" a few times, lol

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: bandit_bobby on September 08, 2009, 02:37:18 PM

One of my blog's readers thought that "Truth or Consequences" would've worked better as the night's gimmick. Honestly, the only way that could've happened is if the episode had eminated from New Mexico.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 08, 2009, 03:23:48 PM

[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'225359\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 10:37 AM\']For example, Muhammad Hassan is anti- American, and played to that gimmick, but he never gave me a reason to hate him other than his constant cries of "I Hate America!!!!!". Of course, people booed at that and started a USA! chant.[/quote]
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'225360\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 10:39 AM\']As an outsider, I'd attribute that more to the material.[/quote]
The two of you prove my point. Hassan failed because he was bad at it and his schtick was REALLY poorly timed. (Really more the latter, but hey.) Rotunda took a horrible gimmick and got over with it, with one line. That takes at least something.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 08, 2009, 03:25:39 PM

[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'225351\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 09:36 AM\']How has Barker's book being doing? I'm wondering if he really did this because sales of his book haven't been what he expected.[/quote]
What sales?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: JMFabiano on September 08, 2009, 04:41:25 PM

Wonder if Bob and Triple H were sharing tips on backstage politics off-camera...

[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'222125\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 06:52 PM\'][quote name=\'LetsGoMets2003\' post=\'222115\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 05:27 PM\']Betty White will not be happy. Per a new interview with Stephanie McMahon

http://bit.ly/SpVzX (http://\"http://bit.ly/SpVzX\")

(How many divas will Bob try to seduce? Bring on the bad puns, too.)[/quote]

Here's another bit of information pertaining to Price...

Tom Kennedy left the nighttime version.
[/quote]

...because he failed the Wellness Program.

Oops, wrong Kennedy...

...

...

...

...

...Kennedy.

[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'225365\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 02:37 PM\']One of my blog's readers thought that "Truth or Consequences" would've worked better as the night's gimmick. Honestly, the only way that could've happened is if the episode had eminated from New Mexico.[/quote]

...and if Mick Foley was still in the company.

Also, if Umaga was still there, he should have done a segment with Barker...just for the Samoan connection ;-)

Drew should have invaded one of his segments (hey, he could plug the upcoming new season too...and after all, he DID survive minutes in the 2001 Royal Rumble!) As I don't watch Raw (or anything WWE, really...give me old school WWF and etc. anyday. I did peek at the Barker segments though...), did anyone bring anything referencing Drew or something?

/I would have decided on BARKER FEARS DENNIS/TOM/HOLLY/DIAN/BETTY, myself.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: JMFabiano on September 08, 2009, 05:24:22 PM

[quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'225322\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 01:24 AM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225310\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 09:02 PM\'][quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'225308\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 08:55 PM\']Well, that wasn't the train wreck I thought it could have been.

That says a lot, considering that it is WWE. I was entertained; it could have been much worse.[/quote]
The low point of the show was that idiotic ~~karate chop~~ segment with Chavo.
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Fixed that for you. Actually, that statement applies to the last several weeks of Chavo's segments on Raw and probably the next couple of weeks to come.

Seriously, who's corn flakes did Chavo wee-wee in to get buried like he is? At least Santino is hilarious to watch.
[/quote]

Yeah really. I am wondering if it was A) Wellness related? Or B) Taking Vickie quitting out on him? Or that C) They're resentful cause he's still alive so they can't exploit him too? Or D) Did they find out he had his way with a young Stephanie McMahon too, oooooooh yeah?

Seriously, does anyone know the answer????

I'd be calling Jeff and Dixie if I were him...oops, we remember what happened before with Chavo + Russo booking...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DicWsPrRqK8 (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DicWsPrRqK8\")

(Sadly, I couldn't find footage of him as the Amway Salesman...)

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: JMFabiano on September 08, 2009, 07:49:33 PM

[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'225324\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 02:06 AM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'225323\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 01:46 AM\']And correctly so, thank you. Reminds me of Orlando Jordan's jobfest against Chris Benoit.[/quote]

Orlando Jordan actually existed? I thought he was a figment of my imagination. BTW, I fixed the reference you made to that other non-existant wrestler.
[/quote]

*sigh*

Not to say you're protesting his non-existance, but the debate is still tiresome. This (excellent) review of the WCW doc includes a reality check or two on that topic, pretty much, and one I feel more people need to accept:

http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/09/0...cw-the-feature/ (http://\"http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2009/09/03/the-way-too-long-review-of-the-rise-fall-of-wcw-the-feature/\")

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: chad1m on September 08, 2009, 08:03:23 PM

Trying to steer this topic more sanely, I posted the video of all segments Barker appeared in in the A/V section (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18702&pid=225391&st=0&#entry225391\"), about 26 minutes worth.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pacdude on September 08, 2009, 08:19:09 PM

As much as I don't like wrestling, and as much as I don't like WWE, I will say as much:

That's one fancy set they had.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: clemon79 on September 08, 2009, 08:34:10 PM

[quote name=\'pacdude\' post=\'225395\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 05:19 PM\']That's one fancy set they had.[/quote]
Yeah, they dropped a few bucks when they decided they were gonna shoot all of their shows in HD going forward.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: gaubster2 on September 08, 2009, 10:14:45 PM

Did anybody else think Howard Finkel sounded like Gene Wood?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Johnissoevil on September 08, 2009, 10:26:50 PM

[quote name=\'gaubster2\' post=\'225399\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 10:14 PM\']Did anybody else think Howard Finkel sounded like Gene Wood?[/quote]

I will agree, his style matched Gene's. But I don't think the voices could ever match even if Howard tried.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Walrus5241 on September 08, 2009, 10:38:57 PM

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'225291\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 09:37 PM\'][quote name=\'Jumpondees\' post=\'225289\' date=\'Sep 7 2009, 09:22 PM\']--Will this public appearance enhance or tarnish Bob's legacy?[/quote]
I'd seriously entertain that question if we were talking about Nelson Mandela or something.

He's a game show host. Do you really think appearing on a wrestling program is a significant step down?
[/quote]

Well, yes, a lot of the snobby "intellectual" media critics (such as Morris Holbrook) look down on game shows and game show hosts. But a lot of the entertainment industry--and of course the public--have come to respect game shows over the years. Barker isn't some D-lister like George Gray or something; he's a television legend. He's in the Television Hall of Fame and has an Emmy Lifetime Achievement Award.

I think game shows can't be truly assessed in terms of a TV food chain; some are extremely successful and are among the most legendary television programs of all time (The Price is Right, Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, etc) and others are so low that they don't even make a dent (Trivial Pursuit). Same can be said for any type of TV show; everyone knows and loves Cheers or The Golden Girls, but not so much Kath & Kim or The Michael Richards Show. As a result, I always bristle when I hear or read people suggesting that they're bottom-feeders; some are, but others are some of the greatest things ever put on the tube.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 08, 2009, 10:55:53 PM

[quote name=\'Walrus5241\' post=\'225405\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 10:38 PM\']I think game shows can't be truly assessed in terms of a TV food chain; some are extremely successful and are among the most legendary television programs of all time (The Price is Right, Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, etc) and others are so low that they don't even make a dent (Trivial Pursuit). Same can be said for any type of TV show;[/quote]
Sorry to cut it off right there, but it makes my entire point.

Same can be said for any type of TV show...even wrestling.

Certainly if Bob even considered for a moment his "legacy," he chose the preeminent wrestling company with which to align himself. The top of the TV wrestling food chain. The most famous, most recognizable brand in the industry, though I'm sure a lot of old folks still call it the WWF.

Now if Bob were to suddenly start making appearances on cheap local midwestern circuits whose matches are televised on public access stations, then yeah, maybe we could have a discussion about tarnishing his image. But the question as I understood it was whether a big-time game show host was slumming by appearing on a big-time wrestling program. All things being that equal, I think not.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: JMFabiano on September 08, 2009, 11:07:42 PM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'225393\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 08:03 PM\']Trying to steer this topic more sanely, I posted the video of all segments Barker appeared in in the A/V section (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18702&pid=225391&st=0&#entry225391\"), about 26 minutes worth.[/quote]

...and to bring it back to insanity...I think Barry Darsow should have made an appearance to play Hole in One...or Two ;-)

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Walrus5241 on September 08, 2009, 11:25:32 PM

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'225406\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 10:55 PM\'][quote name=\'Walrus5241\' post=\'225405\' date=\'Sep 8 2009, 10:38 PM\']I think game shows can't be truly assessed in terms of a TV food chain; some are extremely successful and are among the most legendary television programs of all time (The Price is Right, Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, etc) and others are so low that they don't even make a dent (Trivial Pursuit). Same can be said for any type of TV show;[/quote]
Sorry to cut it off right there, but it makes my entire point.

Same can be said for any type of TV show...even wrestling.

Certainly if Bob even considered for a moment his "legacy," he chose the preeminent wrestling company with which to align himself. The top of the TV wrestling food chain. The most famous, most recognizable brand in the industry, though I'm sure a lot of old folks still call it the WWF.

Now if Bob were to suddenly start making appearances on cheap local midwestern circuits whose matches are televised on public access stations, then yeah, maybe we could have a discussion about tarnishing his image. But the question as I understood it was whether a big-time game show host was slumming by appearing on a big-time wrestling program. All things being that equal, I think not.
[/quote]

Touche, Mr. Ottinger. Well-put. I suppose I was just bristling at the suggestion that game shows in general/Bob Barker are/is way down on the TV food chain, and I took it from there. I suppose that was silly of me, in hindsight. What you just wrote now is something I totally agree with and think is most queloquently stated.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 10, 2009, 12:02:02 AM

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'225140\' date=\'Sep 6 2009, 01:21 PM\']pentellit (and for anyone else), I think I've got the perfect introduction to show you what modern pro wrestling is all about: ...These two are the longest-serving members of WWE's roster, and you can see why they've captivated so many people's imaginations and retained their spot for so many years. I hope you'll watch and enjoy.[/quote]
Okay chad1m, et al, in a sincere desire to understand the popularity of tv wrestling, I turned on the bout between the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels that chad1m recommended.

I wish I could report that I loved it, but in reality, after the Undertaker punched Shawn Michaels in the face about 5 times, I dove for the couch pillow. I get that this is a testament to these performers talent; to make me believe and cringe, and hide my eyes behind a pillow. I get that, so much that I felt like the "IT'S REAL TO ME!" YouTube guy. So when he jumped up, and came CRASHING down on the guy, …… that was it for me. I was done with television wrestling.

So my advice to you WWE fans, if you find someone who loves WWE, marry them! Cherish them. Otherwise you’ll have to settle for someone like me who won’t watch WWE, but will make you and your friends yummy snacks, courtesy of the TV Food Network, while you all watch huge beefy guys brutalize each other on WWE.

OK?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: gaubster2 on September 10, 2009, 01:41:53 AM

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'225509\' date=\'Sep 9 2009, 09:02 PM\'][quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'225140\' date=\'Sep 6 2009, 01:21 PM\']pentellit (and for anyone else), I think I've got the perfect introduction to show you what modern pro wrestling is all about: ...These two are the longest-serving members of WWE's roster, and you can see why they've captivated so many people's imaginations and retained their spot for so many years. I hope you'll watch and enjoy.[/quote]
Okay chad1m, et al, in a sincere desire to understand the popularity of tv wrestling, I turned on the bout between the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels that chad1m recommended.

I wish I could report that I loved it, but in reality, after the Undertaker punched Shawn Michaels in the face about 5 times, I dove for the couch pillow. I get that this is a testament to these performers talent; to make me believe and cringe, and hide my eyes behind a pillow. I get that, so much that I felt like the "IT'S REAL TO ME!" YouTube guy. So when he jumped up, and came CRASHING down on the guy, …… that was it for me. I was done with television wrestling.

So my advice to you WWE fans, if you find someone who loves WWE, marry them! Cherish them. Otherwise you’ll have to settle for someone like me who won’t watch WWE, but will make you and your friends yummy snacks, courtesy of the TV Food Network, while you all watch huge beefy guys brutalize each other on WWE.

OK?
[/quote]
Well at least you gave it an honest try. Most people would simply mock it and move on.

/Good thing you didn't sample a "cage match" or ECW in it's prime

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: LA the DJ on September 10, 2009, 03:08:25 AM

In case anyone was curious, PWinsider.com reports that the ratings were up this week for WWE Raw. It pulled a 3.8, up from 3.6 last week.
The first hour (featuring more of Bob) actually beat the second (which I don't believe normally happens) on a breakdown of 3.86 and 3.79. At some point I'm sure a closer ratings breakdown will come and we'll see if Bob's segments drew ratings or not.

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on September 10, 2009, 10:06:21 AM

But wouldn't that mean that people tuned in, saw Bob, said "This guy sucks!", and then tuned out?

Title: Bob Barker to WWE?
Post by: pentellit on September 10, 2009, 04:50:19 PM

[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'225539\' date=\'Sep 10 2009, 07:06 AM\']But wouldn't that mean that people tuned in, saw Bob, said "This guy sucks!", and then tuned out?[/quote]
I did! ;)