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Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: TenPoundHammer on February 05, 2008, 08:58:51 AM
I have been unable to find an episode guide for DD'76, and I would like to know the original airdates of the episodes that aired from 1 to 2 AM on Monday morning. The contestants on the first ep were Gary and Lee; Lee won and went on to defend in the second ep, where he lost to Julie. Gene Wood announced on both, so I'm assuming these are from some point in 1977. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: MikeK on February 05, 2008, 10:18:04 AM
Assuming the eps. were the Monday and Tuesday eps. since there were a new set of Spoilers, the original air dates should be 1/17/77 and 1/18/77.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: KWJCDon on February 05, 2008, 07:44:37 PM
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'177175\' date=\'Feb 5 2008, 10:18 AM\']
Assuming the eps. were the Monday and Tuesday eps. since there were a new set of Spoilers, the original air dates should be 1/17/77 and 1/18/77.
[/quote]

You are absolutely correct Sir!

Don
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: toddyo on February 11, 2008, 10:45:13 PM
Odd question: were these episodes the first ones where Gene Wood announced?  The intro to Sunday night's episodes sure sounded like Card Sharks. (Yes I know it's the same music....just no Johnny O)
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: mmb5 on February 12, 2008, 07:30:31 AM
Is it me or was something skipped this weekend?  I've only seen the first one, but they were definitely different players than the game left in progress last weekend.


--Mike
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: MikeK on February 12, 2008, 08:26:43 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'177638\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 07:30 AM\']Is it me or was something skipped this weekend?  I've only seen the first one, but they were definitely different players than the game left in progress last weekend.[/quote]
It's not you.  It appears that one episode was skipped.  Both episodes had the same set of Spoilers as the episodes from last weekend.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: DjohnsonCB on February 12, 2008, 11:05:55 AM
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'177643\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 09:26 AM\']
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'177638\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 07:30 AM\']Is it me or was something skipped this weekend?  I've only seen the first one, but they were definitely different players than the game left in progress last weekend.[/quote]
It's not you.  It appears that one episode was skipped.  Both episodes had the same set of Spoilers as the episodes from last weekend.
[/quote]
I wondered what Ray Winston was doing there when I didn't see him come on last weekend.  He was the player who actually had a network promo for the show built around him, doing great in the main game but always failing against the Spoilers.  I don't recall if he ever won the big bucks.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: snowpeck on February 12, 2008, 02:21:09 PM
According to the PDF schedules at Steve Beverly's site, last week's shows were #26 and #27.  This week's were #30 and #31, meaning 2 episodes were skipped for whatever reason.

Greg
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on February 12, 2008, 02:40:38 PM
[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'177673\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 02:21 PM\']
According to the PDF schedules at Steve Beverly's site, last week's shows were #26 and #27.  This week's were #30 and #31, meaning 2 episodes were skipped for whatever reason.

Greg
[/quote]

Has GSN ever shown #28 and #29 before?
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Jay Temple on February 13, 2008, 01:51:48 AM
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'177643\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 07:26 AM\']
It's not you.  It appears that one episode was skipped.  Both episodes had the same set of Spoilers as the episodes from last weekend.
[/quote]

[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'177673\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 01:21 PM\']
According to the PDF schedules at Steve Beverly's site, last week's shows were #26 and #27.  This week's were #30 and #31, meaning 2 episodes were skipped for whatever reason.[/quote]
Either the episode numbers are in error, or they filmed six eps with the same set of Spoilers.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: joshg on February 15, 2008, 06:33:44 PM
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'177675\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 11:40 AM\']
[quote name=\'snowpeck\' post=\'177673\' date=\'Feb 12 2008, 02:21 PM\']
According to the PDF schedules at Steve Beverly's site, last week's shows were #26 and #27.  This week's were #30 and #31, meaning 2 episodes were skipped for whatever reason.

Greg
[/quote]

Has GSN ever shown #28 and #29 before?
[/quote]

Yes. I found them on tape from 10 years ago. Here's the skinny (champion is listed last):

ep #28 - Richard vs. Julie
ep #29 - Joan vs. Julie
ep #30 - Ray vs. Joan
ep #31 - Lyn vs. Ray

Hope that helps.

Josh
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Matt Ottinger on February 15, 2008, 11:03:23 PM
[quote name=\'joshg\' post=\'177946\' date=\'Feb 15 2008, 06:33 PM\']
Yes. I found them on tape from 10 years ago. Here's the skinny (champion is listed last):[/quote]
Man, the institutional memory this place has built up is amazing.  Nice job.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: TenPoundHammer on February 18, 2008, 01:13:31 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'177955\' date=\'Feb 15 2008, 11:03 PM\']
[quote name=\'joshg\' post=\'177946\' date=\'Feb 15 2008, 06:33 PM\']
Yes. I found them on tape from 10 years ago. Here's the skinny (champion is listed last):[/quote]
Man, the institutional memory this place has built up is amazing.  Nice job.
[/quote]

The episode pairs airing today (2/18) are 1/24 and 1/25 then, right?
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: mmb5 on February 28, 2008, 08:06:12 PM
Question for the contestant savants, has Ray ever been on any other show?  He seems way too good not to have been.


--Mike
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Allstar87 on February 28, 2008, 10:59:35 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'179328\' date=\'Feb 28 2008, 08:06 PM\']
Question for the contestant savants, has Ray ever been on any other show?  He seems way too good not to have been.
[/quote]

Yes. Yes he was. Funny story about that. He was on Sale of the Century in 1983, and was later deemed to be ineligible. He sued to get what he won from the network, to no avail.

Why exactly was he ineligible? NBC's rules stated that one couldn't be more than three game shows in their lifetime. On his application Ray mentioned Split Second in '73 and 3 For The Money in '75...but left out Double Dare.

The case is Winston v. National Broadcasting Co. (1991). It shows up on FindLaw, but registration's required there.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: cmjb13 on February 29, 2008, 08:13:18 AM
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'179340\' date=\'Feb 28 2008, 10:59 PM\']
The case is Winston v. National Broadcasting Co. (1991). It shows up on FindLaw, but registration's required there.
[/quote]
You don't need to register. Use bugmenot.com

Since their main page seems to be temporarily unavailable, use the following info to see it:

Username: none@domain.com
Password:  flpass
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: mmb5 on February 29, 2008, 12:36:13 PM
Interesting read, although if he had to do it all over again, he should have omitted the 3 For the Money appearance.  Who would have known?  He's probably been blackballed for this, which is too bad, he is truly a fascinating contestant to watch.

I also like that he's not busted by the network, but by someone who saw the episodes at home and knew he was on Double Dare.  Thank God there's nobody like that around here...


--Mike
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: KWJCDon on March 04, 2008, 08:43:17 AM
Great...due to a cable outage here in Key West, I did not get the episodes that were aired this past Sunday. Can anyone give me a quick recap? Was one of these the one where Ray walked out as they introed Alex? And...Am I allowed to ask if AGTOT/D?

Thanks all,
Don
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: MikeK on March 04, 2008, 08:56:04 AM
[quote name=\'KWJCDon\' post=\'179857\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 08:43 AM\']Was one of these the one where Ray walked out as they introed Alex?[/quote]
That was the 2nd episode on Sunday.

A quick recap:  Ray beat Sarabeth (Sassy) $550-50 and got $100 on the Spoilers.  Ray narrowly beat his next opponent, $500-$300, IIRC.  Ray was in a double dare situation which would've cost Ray his championship if he missed, the only such situation I've seen Ray in thus far.  He won $700 at the spoilers, even though he used all 4 passes in the first 5 clues about Robert Louis Stevenson.  Ray is at $6950 and will meet a new challenger at the start of the next program.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Master Shake on March 04, 2008, 11:50:20 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but what does AGTOT/D stand for?  I can't find any reference to it anywhere else on the internet.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: clemon79 on March 05, 2008, 06:09:33 AM
[quote name=\'Master Shake\' post=\'180020\' date=\'Mar 4 2008, 08:50 PM\']
Excuse my ignorance, but what does AGTOT/D stand for?  I can't find any reference to it anywhere else on the internet.
[/quote]
Yeah, 'cuz it's kinda an in-thing. Anyone Got That On Tape / Disc.

Please endeavor not to use it, as some find it severely annoying.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Master Shake on March 05, 2008, 05:47:22 PM
Don't worry, I'm not planning to use it.  I get the impression from reading here it's not well liked (I do a lot more reading than posting usually, as you can probably work out!)  Just that I'd never heard it before and couldn't for the life of me figure out what it meant.

Thanks for the info / explanation.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: TLEberle on March 05, 2008, 11:16:46 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'179394\' date=\'Feb 29 2008, 09:36 AM\']Interesting read, although if he had to do it all over again, he should have omitted the 3 For the Money appearance.  Who would have known?  He's probably been blackballed for this, which is too bad, he is truly a fascinating contestant to watch.[/quote] I take a different perspective: he should have listed all three appearances on his records. From what I've read, he's a fantastic contestant, and he won the cash jackpot early on in Sale's run, but the rules are in place for a reason, and he got his own back. He lied, he got caught. No soup for him.

What's strange is that it took eight years of wrangling to come to that conclusion, but that could be attributed to the wheels of justice grinding both slow and fine.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: BillCullen1 on March 26, 2008, 11:13:12 PM
This past weekend on DD, there was a first. they went through ALL the clues without getting a correct answer in the main game with both contestants in the booths.  They both knew the answer, they just couldn't come up with Louise Lasser's last name.  Now we know how many clues there are for each subject - ten.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: TLEberle on March 26, 2008, 11:56:05 PM
[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'182608\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 08:13 PM\']This past weekend on DD, there was a first. they went through ALL the clues without getting a correct answer in the main game with both contestants in the booths.  They both knew the answer, they just couldn't come up with Louise Lasser's last name.  Now we know how many clues there are for each subject - ten.[/quote]Did Alex make mention that the Dare or Double Dare was out of play at a particular point?
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: clemon79 on March 27, 2008, 12:32:32 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'182616\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 08:56 PM\']
Did Alex make mention that the Dare or Double Dare was out of play at a particular point?
[/quote]
Any contestant who TAKES the Dare or Double Dare after the eighth clue should just lose the money automatically.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Neumms on March 31, 2008, 11:20:05 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'182619\' date=\'Mar 26 2008, 11:32 PM\']
Any contestant who TAKES the Dare or Double Dare after the eighth clue should just lose the money automatically.
[/quote]

Why? Because by that point it's pretty clear the other player doesn't have an idea, unless the clue is "her name starts with L and rhymes with gasser."
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: clemon79 on March 31, 2008, 11:31:09 AM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'182905\' date=\'Mar 31 2008, 08:20 AM\']
Why? Because by that point it's pretty clear the other player doesn't have an idea, unless the clue is "her name starts with L and rhymes with gasser."
[/quote]
Which is easy for us to figure out, sitting at home, watching both players do the tip-of-their-tongue dance and being able to hear wrong answers, but I suspect somewhat more difficult when sitting in an isolation booth with none of that information. You don't know if you're opponent is genuinely clueless or dancing around it or it's going to come to them at any second, so it's wiser to err on the side of caution, unless it's a throwaway Dare, like when you have a huge lead, a Dare would win the game, and you could care less if they get the fifty bucks.

Plus, you're eight or nine clues deep, where they start banging you over the head with it. Last night's show is a prime example: takes them nine clues to get to the Grand Canyon, and they offer the tenth clue as a Dare, which was something along the lines of "BIG FARKING HOLE IN THE MIDDLE OF ARIZONA." Even Alex knew that offering the Dare was a formality.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Jay Temple on March 31, 2008, 11:19:49 PM
Actually, he screwed that up. The contestant who got it did so on a penalty clue, which means that same clue should have been the Dare clue. (I still wouldn't have given the dare, though. It was "Even Evel Knievel wouldn't jump over this one.")

Oh, and since the original topic was which episodes air, I checked Steve Beverly's site. I don't remember the number, but the show that should follow next week's second episode will be skipped.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: TLEberle on April 01, 2008, 12:23:33 AM
I'd like to point out for the record that last night's double feature displayed some of the most stupefyingly bad strategy ever seen in taking on the Spoilers. As much as you can't afford to play conservatively with your pass allotment, you can't afford to give away clues like "The Creation of Man" for Michaelangelo, or the "Show ends with one man clapping" for Laugh-in.

And for their effort, the two champions won all of $100 and $200 in the respective bonus games.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: That Don Guy on April 01, 2008, 08:45:02 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'182955\' date=\'Mar 31 2008, 09:23 PM\']
I'd like to point out for the record that last night's double feature displayed some of the most stupefyingly bad strategy ever seen in taking on the Spoilers. As much as you can't afford to play conservatively with your pass allotment, you can't afford to give away clues like "The Creation of Man" for Michaelangelo, or the "Show ends with one man clapping" for Laugh-in.[/quote]
And I'd like to point out a bit of prescience; one of the contestants phrased two of her answers in the form of a question, seven years before Alex would be hosting a show where that was the object.

-- Don
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Matt Ottinger on April 02, 2008, 11:51:29 AM
[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' post=\'183005\' date=\'Apr 1 2008, 08:45 PM\']
And I'd like to point out a bit of prescience; one of the contestants phrased two of her answers in the form of a question, seven years before Alex would be hosting a show where that was the object.[/quote]
I'm afraid all you're pointing out is a lack of a sense of history.  Art Fleming's version of Jeopardy! was still very fresh in viewers' minds in 1976, and accidentally wording your response in the form of a question was not uncommon on other Q&A shows of the era.  The fact that Alex is the host of Double Dare and would go on to host the remake of Jeopardy! is much more coincidence than prescience.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: uncamark on April 03, 2008, 05:20:51 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'183062\' date=\'Apr 2 2008, 10:51 AM\']
[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' post=\'183005\' date=\'Apr 1 2008, 08:45 PM\']
And I'd like to point out a bit of prescience; one of the contestants phrased two of her answers in the form of a question, seven years before Alex would be hosting a show where that was the object.[/quote]
I'm afraid all you're pointing out is a lack of a sense of history.  Art Fleming's version of Jeopardy! was still very fresh in viewers' minds in 1976, and accidentally wording your response in the form of a question was not uncommon on other Q&A shows of the era.  The fact that Alex is the host of Double Dare and would go on to host the remake of Jeopardy! is much more coincidence than prescience.
[/quote]

Besides, what I'd want to know is if Trebek got all huffy over it (like Jack Barry) or make a joke out of it (like Tom Kennedy's "Isn't that right, Jack Pardo?").
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: splinkynip on April 16, 2008, 09:00:30 AM
For those of you watching regularly like me, did GSN skip another show or two this past weekend?  I didn't recognize either player on this SUnday's (4/13) first show.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: joshg on April 16, 2008, 05:40:47 PM
[quote name=\'splinkynip\' post=\'184113\' date=\'Apr 16 2008, 06:00 AM\']
For those of you watching regularly like me, did GSN skip another show or two this past weekend?  I didn't recognize either player on this SUnday's (4/13) first show.
[/quote]

Yes, I noticed that too. My completely uneducated guess is that they skipped one ep. Also, by my rough calculations, we're almost halfway through the run. The show lasted 20 weeks (12/13/76 - 4/29/77 per the Wiki) and they've aired (more or less) 10 weeks of shows so far.

Josh
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: Jay Temple on April 17, 2008, 08:59:16 AM
I checked the PDF's at Beverly's website. They skipped exactly one episode.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: MAGameShowFan on May 19, 2008, 07:19:45 PM
How come they only show DD on Early Monday Morning? Didn't it Now You See It only run for one season and yet that is on 4 nights a week. I don't get it. They should put Double Dare on nightly at 1AM and have it followed by Now You See It at 1:30AM. They should move Trivia Trap to the Early Monday Morning slot that Double Dare is on now. It's not fair to watch two episodes of DD and then have to wait a whole week for them to show the next two episodes.
Title: Double Dare '76
Post by: snowpeck on May 19, 2008, 08:18:39 PM
[quote name=\'MAGameShowFan\' post=\'186345\' date=\'May 19 2008, 07:19 PM\']
How come they only show DD on Early Monday Morning? Didn't it Now You See It only run for one season and yet that is on 4 nights a week. I don't get it. They should put Double Dare on nightly at 1AM and have it followed by Now You See It at 1:30AM. They should move Trivia Trap to the Early Monday Morning slot that Double Dare is on now. It's not fair to watch two episodes of DD and then have to wait a whole week for them to show the next two episodes.
[/quote]


Around 300 episodes were produced of NYSI.  96 were produced of of DD, and it now seems only around 70 of those exist.  Agreed that Trivia Trap would have worked better on weekends though.

Greg