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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: DoorNumberFour on November 18, 2007, 08:49:53 AM
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Something that, if uttered in public, would completely expose you as a game show nerd.
Mine would have to be the Tic Tac Dough 1978 board being controlled by 9 Apple II computers and an Altair 8800 system.
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Probably that Thom McKee won $312,700 on TTD or that Michael Larson won $110,237 on PYL.
Oh, and there was a host of WOF before Pat Sajak...;)
Anthony
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Cripe, where to begin?
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Either:
The puzzle that Ms. Horowitz (sp?) won the tournament of champs with on the original Concentration was "DAMASCUS, SYRIA"
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The only dollar values that have been on EVERY Wheel layout since the show premiered in 1975 are $300 and $500 (yes, including that *ahem* Goen version).
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There are so many here. I hope you don't mind a few examples.
Tex Crenshaw was the first to win a car on TJW.
Allen Ludden hosted a pilot for TJW before the show made it to the air.
Wink Martindale hosted a handful of shows before he became famous for TTD.
There were two more daytime Wheel hosts because Pat left that version.
There even was a daytime Wheel.
Wow. A (bleep)load.
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[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'169828\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 02:39 PM\']Wink Martindale hosted a handful of shows before he became famous for TTD.
There even was a daytime Wheel.[/quote]
These are fanboi-ish?
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2-12-1-9-4
2-11-17-7-4
2-9-17-8
2-8-18-16-13-3-5-11-7-4
Those are the 4 patterns Larson used to win his money. He didn't bother to use the 5th one: 2-4-12-17-8.
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'169831\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 02:53 PM\']
2-12-1-9-4
2-11-17-7-4
2-9-17-8
2-8-18-16-13-3-5-11-7-4
2-4-12-17-8.
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Gotta agree with those...don't think you can get any nerdier than that.
/I mean that in a good way
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Here's another one:
All of the lights on the set of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire (Regis' version) used a combined total of 1,896 amps of electricity.
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'169829\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 03:43 PM\']
[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'169828\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 02:39 PM\']Wink Martindale hosted a handful of shows before he became famous for TTD.
There even was a daytime Wheel.[/quote]
These are fanboi-ish?
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They are in our age group, anyway.
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Name a game show, and I can [likely] tell you what kind of microphones and/or cameras were used.
Wait, that's more "techie" than "fanboy"....
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The premiere dates to most of the more popular shows, in various incarnations. Off the top of my head...
The Price is Right
September 4, 1972
September 12, 1994 (Davidson)
Wheel
January 6, 1975
September 5, 12, or 19, 1983 (nighttime)
Feud
July 12, 1976
July 4, 1988 (Combs)
September 20, 1999 (current)
Pyramid
March 26, 1973
January 19, 1976 ($20,000 version)
September 20, 1982 (CBS)
Card Sharks
April 24, 1978
January 6, 1986 (CBS)
September 17, 2001 (Bullard)
And even a few short-lived shows.
Dream House
April 4, 1983
Whew!
April 23, 1979
Break the Bank
April 12, 1976 (Kennedy)
I could rattle off a few more, but I'm scaring myself here. :-P
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"Sale of the Century" is the only game show known where a husband and wife pair were both undefeated champions and/or won the top prize. (IIRC, Richard and Rani White; Richard during the Winner's Board format, Rani during the Winner's Big Money Game format.) (Can I say I remember seeing this in a library book at university?)
The only time Hollywood Squares did not play a Secret Square game was during the "You Fool!" incident during Season 2. Not good enough? OK, the Mr. X involved in that incident also was a contestant on "It Takes Two" and, much earlier, "Wheel of Fortune."
Speaking of "It Takes Two," isn't that the last series Dick Clark hosted? (I think the blooper shows had run their course with Dick as host, and the NYE shows aren't in the same vein. Corrections welcome.)
'Brian
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[quote name=\'GameShowFan\' post=\'169841\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 03:41 PM\']
Speaking of "It Takes Two," isn't that the last series Dick Clark hosted? (I think the blooper shows had run their course with Dick as host, and the NYE shows aren't in the same vein. Corrections welcome.)
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IIRC, he still hosted the occasional Blooper special up until the early-2000s. I think they still air from time to time, but Dick stopped hosting before his stroke.
Failing that, he hosted "Winning Lines" from early-2000...
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billy crystal holds the record for the fastest pyramid bonus round
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Clementson's called me several times on my arcane knowledge of who was working at each of the networks' technical departments.
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Dick Clark would tape ten 'Pyramid' shows a day.
Chuck Woolery's later day 'Love Connecton' wardrobe was furnished by Bernini.
GSN has been airing 'Blockbusters' on weekend mornings for nearly 5 years.
I'll stop.
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Family Feud's game show host week.
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The staging of the host/panel desks for "What's My Line" was reversed for "I've Got A Secret" because Goodson and Todman knew IGaS was a ripoff of WML, and therefore wanted to make the show look as different from Line as possible.
The first episode of I've Got A Secret was staged like a courtroom, and it looked so terrible that the set was burned the next day.
When writing clues for the "Jeopardy!" board, the writers fit no more than 7 lines and 13 letters on each line for a clue.
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The formats of "Double Talk" and "Celebrity Double Talk" were identical.
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Just by viewing, I have determined the original preservation materials for over a dozen of the programs held at the Paley Center, and will supply them on demand.
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[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'169828\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 12:39 PM\']
Allen Ludden hosted a pilot for TJW before the show made it to the air.
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Actually, he hosted at least two pilots for TJW before the show's premiere.
-Kevin
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There's the old standby of "Blackout was the only game show (TV show?) to both replace and be replaced by (all in first-run) the same show, $25,000 Pyramid."
You can count on prices in the TPIR games Ten Chances and Safe Crackers to always end in zeroes.
And there's something about 1.5 million colors of light, I think . . .
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[quote name=\'GameShowFan\' post=\'169841\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 04:41 PM\']
"Sale of the Century" is the only game show known where a husband and wife pair were both undefeated champions and/or won the top prize. (IIRC, Richard and Rani White; Richard during the Winner's Board format, Rani during the Winner's Big Money Game format.) (Can I say I remember seeing this in a library book at university?)
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I misinterpreted the first line of this, and was about to be very impressed that Brian (or anyone) could remember that much detail about the 70s $otC, which IIRC did eventually feature married couples.
Yeah, the dates thing is what I probably specialize in, most notably that the Monday after the original J! went off was when WoF premiered. And does anyone else remember the great two page spread in the TV Guide that week... decent shots of Celebrity Sweepstakes, WoF, Blank Check, and (who cares, but it was) How to Survive a Marriage.
There's also this... the premiere date of Match Game '73 was pushed back a week, apparently because of Watergate coverage. (At least that's how I understand it...)
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This one's most frequent for me since GSN came into existence:
Someone asks why GSN doesn't rerun a particular show, and I can tell them that most of the run is gone and how many episodes are known to exist.
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On Jeopardy, if you buzz in before Alex finishes reading the clue, your buzzer will be locked out for three-tenths of a second after the ready-light around the board goes on.
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Until the set was rebuilt this summer, Price's doors still had a jack in them to plug The Phone Home Game into.
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I'm sure my worst ones probably involve Nickelodeon game shows...
The Purple Parrots won exactly twice in season one Legends of the Hidden Temple, and far and away won the fewest episodes over the whole series.
Edd Kalehoff wrote the music to every Nick gameshow until Wild and Crazy Kids premiered.
Also (mostly because it makes me laugh), on What Would You Do?, the audience never let a contestant go to the Pie Pod without receiving the maximum number of pies available.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'169862\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 03:58 PM\']
You can count on prices in the TPIR games Ten Chances and Safe Crackers to always end in zeroes.
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I weep, for I remember a day when that was NOT the case.
I'd say, knowing that the object for the players is to get three stars in a row, either across, up and down, or diagonally, and that it is their job to determine if the star is giving the correct answer or making one up, for that's how they get the square. Further, that each game is worth $100, and that they play a two-out-of-three match (they play for $200), and that there is also a Secret Square game. which is played after completing the one in progress.
/with a tip of the Le Show Chapeau (http://\"http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/ls\") to Myron Meyer
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I've never been so grateful to just be a simple casual fan of game shows with a limited-at-best knowledge of the inner workings and obscure trivia tidbits of the genre.
/fanboy in denial
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There are only three shows which have aired on GSN continuously, without interruption, for the network's entire history. Newlywed Game, Jeopardy, and Family Feud. And only Jeopardy has featured the same program series for it's entire run. No series of FF or NG episodes has continually aired on the network.
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Alex Trebek hosted 3 Game Shows at the same time in 1991. They of course were Classic Concentration, To Tell The Truth, and Jeopardy!
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[quote name=\'CountdownRound\' post=\'169878\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 05:07 PM\']
I've never been so grateful to just be a simple casual fan of game shows with a limited-at-best knowledge of the inner workings and obscure trivia tidbits of the genre.
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I remember the five-day winnings for Chuck Forrest, Bob Blake and Frank Spangenberg. ($72,800; $82,501; $102,597)
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I know that Allen Ludden is buried in Mineral Point, Wis.
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[quote name=\'GameShowFan\' post=\'169841\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 03:41 PM\']
The only time Hollywood Squares did not play a Secret Square game was during the "You Fool!" incident during Season 2.
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In 1987, the first two weeks in Hollywood Florida saw no Secret Square playings either.
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The only time Bonus Game can be played first is if it's played for a car.
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Does it count if you're revealing your game show geekiness to a fellow geek?
If so, another one: the final spin of the Joker's Wild $250,000 Tournament of Champions was Comedy Movies/Origins of Words/Art World. I remember scaring the crap out of Mitch Groff when I told him that in IM; he'd just seen it from GSN and I recalled it from its original airing.
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Way too many of the couple's names who won houses on "Dream House", *and* the winning combination those who had instant wins won it with.
The first three instant wins:
Bob & Roxanna Maddox: 924
Lynn & Mark Hargill: 867
Susan & Lee Nelson: 916
First three house winners were not instant wins:
Jeff & Judy Abrams
Jim & Debi Barmundi
Nick & Holly Pappas
Yep... we all gotta have something. And I *know* I'm not the only one who can recite way too many openings to game shows.
Matt
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Oh, that reminds me--in my youth (cough cough), I was far too fond of trying to figure out which pricing game on TPIR was going to be played based on the staging, prize reveals, etc. "Oh, look, three prizes, but the middle one is just a toaster--that must be Add 'Em Up."
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'169895\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 10:07 PM\']
Oh, that reminds me--in my youth (cough cough), I was far too fond of trying to figure out which pricing game on TPIR was going to be played based on the staging, prize reveals, etc. "Oh, look, three prizes, but the middle one is just a toaster--that must be Add 'Em Up."
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YEAH. I was especially good at telling when they were getting ready to play Master Key or Ten Chances.
The split in the middle of the prize platform (it would break away to reveal a large prize like a car) was a dead giveaway, but no one watching knew it but me.
So the big door would open to reveal a luggage set and an encyclopedia and I'd be like "Car. There's a car."
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Both the daytime and nighttime runs of TPIR have two third episodes.
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'169895\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 10:07 PM\']
Oh, that reminds me--in my youth (cough cough), I was far too fond of trying to figure out which pricing game on TPIR was going to be played based on the staging, prize reveals, etc. "Oh, look, three prizes, but the middle one is just a toaster--that must be Add 'Em Up."
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As if I needed to prove my dorkiness...is that supposed to be a serious description, or maybe a typo of "Line em Up?" Because that's not even close to Add 'em Up.
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'169896\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 10:15 PM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'169895\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 10:07 PM\']
Oh, that reminds me--in my youth (cough cough), I was far too fond of trying to figure out which pricing game on TPIR was going to be played based on the staging, prize reveals, etc. "Oh, look, three prizes, but the middle one is just a toaster--that must be Add 'Em Up."[/quote]
YEAH. I was especially good at telling when they were getting ready to play Master Key or Ten Chances.
The split in the middle of the prize platform (it would break away to reveal a large prize like a car) was a dead giveaway, but no one watching knew it but me.
So the big door would open to reveal a luggage set and an encyclopedia and I'd be like "Car. There's a car."
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Yes, but can you use the angle of the Turntable to predict Super Ball!! or Lucky $even?
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The couple times I've decided to expose my game show geekdom in public it was reciting the (old) TPiR ticket plug or the rules to Nick Double Dare from memory.
I've also mentioned a couple of the names of Price music cues in public before.
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Name any celebrity, and I can tell you whether or not they were a guest on "Pyramid" from 1973 to 1991.
Brendan
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"The Price Is Right" and "To Tell The Truth" were in production at some point during the '50s, '60s, '70s, '80s, '90s and 2000s. If "Concentration" were to return with new episodes by the end of 2009, it would take that honor too.
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Knowing who has nailed Alphabetics/Super Password on their first crack and which celebrities played only one week on both Password Plus and Super Password
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'169898\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 10:20 PM\']As if I needed to prove my dorkiness...is that supposed to be a serious description, or maybe a typo of "Line em Up?" Because that's not even close to Add 'em Up.[/quote]
Yeah, I goofed. And of all the times ... blast and drat it.
I, too, will claim an unhealthy ability to recite standard game show patter. "There are six of you, so once you buy a prize, you can choose to either bid on it, or you can Dare the other team to answer for double the dollars. We surveyed a recent studio audience, 8 letters in the word, and they gave us only a list of what was in the category. It's winner-take-all, so give the wheels a spin."
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'169915\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 10:21 PM\']I, too, will claim an unhealthy ability to recite standard game show patter. "There are six of you, so once you buy a prize, you can choose to either bid on it, or you can Dare the other team to answer for double the dollars. We surveyed a recent studio audience, 8 letters in the word, and they gave us only a list of what was in the category. It's winner-take-all, so give the wheels a spin."[/quote]
I'd really like to see this show!
(I must not be enough of a game show fanboy, because my knowledge seems to pale in comparison to many of the other posters in this thread...must be all that trivia about Amtrak operations over the past 36 years taking up too much space in my brain.)
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[quote name=\'trainman\' post=\'169920\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 02:49 AM\']
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'169915\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 10:21 PM\']I, too, will claim an unhealthy ability to recite standard game show patter. "There are six of you, so once you buy a prize, you can choose to either bid on it, or you can Dare the other team to answer for double the dollars. We surveyed a recent studio audience, 8 letters in the word, and they gave us only a list of what was in the category. It's winner-take-all, so give the wheels a spin."[/quote]
I'd really like to see this show!
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If I'm a betting man, I'd say it would be a Jay Wolpert production.
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[quote name=\'Mark McNeil\' post=\'169912\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 09:07 PM\']
If "Concentration" were to return with new episodes by the end of 2009, it would take that honor too.
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You must mean "Million Dollar Concentration," hosted by Dr. Phil McGraw.
"Dr. Phil, I'd like to use my Never Forget help, and show me what's behind number 16."
"Dr. Phil, I think my friend Mabel knows where the other trip is, so I'd like to bring her out."
"For your seventh win and one million dollars, is it 'Cats in the Cradle'?" ... (pause) ... "We'll find out, right after this message!"
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It never ceases to amaze me how I know the Chuck Woolery rules spiel on WoF from the 1970's as something like this:
(Chuck spins wheel)"The top dollar value in this round is $750 but watch out for Bankrupts. You land on one of those, you lose your cash but not your merchandise because once you buy a prize, it's yours to keep."
Also, I might tell my mon this when I watch Treasure Hunt this Friday on GSN: Rose passed up on a chance to win a check for $46,000 while her husband stormed off the studio in protest. Needless to say, she got redemption when she chose the box with a big fat check for....FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!!
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'169845\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 02:08 PM\']
Clementson's called me several times on my arcane knowledge of who was working at each of the networks' technical departments.[/quote]
Not as impressive as your knowledge of studio session players.
Here are some more:
- Knowing Bob Barker's home address (that one's easy)
- Given a game show title, being able to name the director, art director AND music director
- Knowing how the mechanical Concentration board worked (before I posted it in the Archive)
- Knowing what was served for lunch at any given taping of any given game show
- Knowing who makes/made Jungle Gardenia perfume
- Knowing where any game show was shot in a space which today is no longer a television studio
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Not incredibly fanboyish, but I remember impressing a date once by repeating "Spiegel, 60609" when he said he was from Chicago haha
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I know that, when the pilot was done for the original (NBC) "Match Game", the Billy Vaughn chart-hit version of "A Swingin' Safari" was used as the theme. But for the actual show, they used Bert Kaempfert's version.
I also know that, in the insert to Varese-Saraband's Game Show Themes CD, they got that information wrong.
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I'd say knowing that Jeopardy wasn't Alex Trebek's first game show (it was actually his ninth, including Canadian GS) counts, too.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'169875\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 07:39 PM\']
I'd say, knowing that the object for the players is to get three stars in a row, either across, up and down, or diagonally, and that it is their job to determine if the star is giving the correct answer or making one up, for that's how they get the square. Further, that each game is worth $100, and that they play a two-out-of-three match (they play for $200), and that there is also a Secret Square game. which is played after completing the one in progress.
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Don't know if I'd ever told this story here. Some years ago--during the Bergeron run--my wife and her students were preparing for a parent-child night. Because she is the Coolest Teacher Ever, the demonstration often includes a subject-related game show. She decided to do "Famous Scientist Squares" or something like that, with some students acting as the "stars," and with questions written by others. In case some parents hadn't watched "Squares," she wanted to know how to explain the game. I rattled off, "Object for the players is to get three stars in a row..." without taking a breath.
"You are such a geek," she said. Then, after she got a pad and paper, "What was that again?"
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'169951\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 07:56 AM\']
In case some parents hadn't watched "Squares," she wanted to know how to explain the game. I rattled off, "Object for the players is to get three stars in a row..." without taking a breath.
"You are such a geek," she said. Then, after she got a pad and paper, "What was that again?"
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Now, see, I wanna find me a woman who gets *aroused* when I say that. Like Jamie Lee Curtis in A Fish Called Wanda hearing foreign languages, but with game shows.
"Oh, gawd, say it again."
"Erm, ok. Once you buy a prize, it's yours to keep."
"UNNNNNGHHHHH!!!"
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Predicting the pricing game and reciting the address of CBS Television City are mine. Another one that's pretty good is being able to explain that when David Letterman says, "not a match, board goes back," he's referring to Hugh Downs hosting "Concentration."
The more recent one that amazes or horrifies people is that "What is feng shui?" was the Final Jeopardy question while my wife was in labor with our only child.
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Bill Cullen and Vanna White share a birthday.
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A "trick" that I like to do when people find out about my hobby is I'll ask them for their date of birth and then tell them what game shows aired that day...I don't get invited to many parties.
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'169962\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 09:04 AM\']
A "trick" that I like to do when people find out about my hobby is I'll ask them for their date of birth and then tell them what game shows aired that day...I don't get invited to many parties.
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I'm reminded of a dude I know who bragged about his "party trick" of reciting pi to 150 digits. :)
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Reciting intro spiels and certain important dates also is a specialty of mine. I also have made note of the companies that have sponsored the dresses and suits the hosts and hostesses have worn during their tenures.
I.e. Mr. Sajak wore only Faconnable and Bill Blass for about a ten year span on WOF, right up until the producers stopped giving them credit for providing them in the credit spiel.
Oh, and knowing the exact wheel layouts, dollar values, colors and all, for each of the Wheel's layouts since 1975 is fairly fanboi-ish, I'd have to think... ;)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'169967\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 11:58 AM\']
[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'169962\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 09:04 AM\']
A "trick" that I like to do when people find out about my hobby is I'll ask them for their date of birth and then tell them what game shows aired that day...I don't get invited to many parties.
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I'm reminded of a dude I know who bragged about his "party trick" of reciting pi to 150 digits. :)
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Anybody here watch the new CBS comedy, "The Big Bang Theory"? Anyone see yourselves in it?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'169961\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 10:58 AM\']
Bill Cullen and Vanna White share a birthday.
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Wow, she looks a lot younger on TV!
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'169933\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 05:52 AM\']
It never ceases to amaze me how I know the Chuck Woolery rules spiel on WoF from the 1970's as something like this:
(Chuck spins wheel)"The top dollar value in this round is $750 but watch out for Bankrupts. You land on one of those, you lose your cash but not your merchandise because once you buy a prize, it's yours to keep."
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Even Chuck himself remembers that spiel, as he demonstrated once during a Greed taping when he suddenly burst into it during a stopdown... after which, he continued, "I don't remember any of that Scrabble s**t."
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[quote name=\'geno57\' post=\'169974\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 01:43 PM\']
Anybody here watch the new CBS comedy, "The Big Bang Theory"? Anyone see yourselves in it?
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Yes, yes, and triple yes. Except for the whole interaction-with-an-attractive-member-of-the-opposite-sex bit.
To the original topic: That's a really difficult question, because my depth of knowledge about lots of shows, their histories, background, and behind-the-scenes information is enough to have most people I associate with's heads spin -- which is why I typically limit my discussion of it to the internet. Invariably, someone'll ask, "Where/How did you learn all that?", to which I (truthfully) reply, "I have no clue." If you put a gun to my head and demanded I pick *something*, I'd prolly pick my familiarity with the Price is Right's pricing games -- rules, setups, approximate date of premiere /and retirement, strategies, tidbits, the like.
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[quote name=\'Gus\' post=\'170000\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 04:17 PM\']
To the original topic: That's a really difficult question, because my depth of knowledge about lots of shows, their histories, background, and behind-the-scenes information is enough to have most people I associate with's heads spin -- which is why I typically limit my discussion of it to the internet. Invariably, someone'll ask, "Where/How did you learn all that?", to which I (truthfully) reply, "I have no clue." If you put a gun to my head and demanded I pick *something*, I'd prolly pick my familiarity with the Price is Right's pricing games -- rules, setups, approximate date of premiere /and retirement, strategies, tidbits, the like.
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My wife and I enjoy watching DrewPiR every day from the DVR...Lately, I've been fine-tuning my knowledge of "Guess the game being played based on the contestant's place on the stage, the reveal, and prize(s)." It boggles my wife's mind how well I do at this. It's completely useless trivia from watching TPiR with a critical, gameshowfan eye since a very young age.
The most basic example is, oh, they're driving the car on the stage, so it's Lucky Seven.
"Prize reveal done from IUFB platform, one 2-digit prize and two 3-digit prizes plus a car. It's Line 'Em Up."
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I can identify the host of "Millionaire" in Ireland, France, Japan and South Africa.
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There's the old standby of "Blackout was the only game show (TV show?) to both replace and be replaced by (all in first-run) the same show, $25,000 Pyramid."
Blankety Blanks comes close. It replaced reruns of The Brady Bunch on ABC in 1975, and 10 weeks later the Bradys came back.
Wheel
January 6, 1975
September 5, 12, or 19, 1983 (nighttime)
Add August 22nd, 1983 to that too :)
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The only person to appear on The Hollywood Squares as a contestant and, later, as a celebrity: O. J. Simpson.
The show that has had the most different hosts: NBC's Concentration (Downs, Barry, Masur, McMahon, Clayton, James and, once, Blumenthal)
The $10,000 Pyramid had a fourth row of four categories on its original CBS run. The bottom row was covered with a plywood plank that remained during the entire run.
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[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'169943\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 09:05 AM\']
Not incredibly fanboyish, but I remember impressing a date once by repeating "Spiegel, 60609" when he said he was from Chicago haha
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And you know what's funny? Spiegel, who for years has distanced themselves from game shows, is now supplying clothing for "The Price is Right" modeling corps.
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[quote name=\'alfonzos\' post=\'170022\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 07:15 PM\']
The only person to appear on The Hollywood Squares as a contestant and, later, as a celebrity: O. J. Simpson.
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And my boss was the guy who suggested booking him on the show as a contestant after reading about him in the paper. His recollection of that taping: "He threw a fit when he found out he had to wait 90 days for the $400 check."
And while we're at it, this came up at work today and I couldn't help thinking of this thread immediately. Make a note, "Wheel of Fortune" fans: A single wedge on the wheel measures approximately 12 inches across the top, 5 inches at the base, and 28 inches long (although these measurements aren't precise because the wedge is curved to fit the wheel's shape).
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'170003\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 04:30 PM\']
My wife and I enjoy watching DrewPiR every day from the DVR...Lately, I've been fine-tuning my knowledge of "Guess the game being played based on the contestant's place on the stage, the reveal, and prize(s)." It boggles my wife's mind how well I do at this. It's completely useless trivia from watching TPiR with a critical, gameshowfan eye since a very young age.
The most basic example is, oh, they're driving the car on the stage, so it's Lucky Seven.
"Prize reveal done from IUFB platform, one 2-digit prize and two 3-digit prizes plus a car. It's Line 'Em Up."
[/quote]
I do that with my fiancee as well..."one 3-digit prize followed by a car? Any Number."
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'170025\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 06:51 PM\']
And while we're at it, this came up at work today and I couldn't help thinking of this thread immediately. Make a note, "Wheel of Fortune" fans: A single wedge on the wheel measures approximately 12 inches across the top, 5 inches at the base, and 28 inches long (although these measurements aren't precise because the wedge is curved to fit the wheel's shape).
[/quote]
So, basically, the wedges are 28 inches of the 4-foot-3 radiu----- wait, scratch my earlier post. THAT is the most fanboyish thing I know.
/28-over-51 seems right
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[quote name=\'Gus\' post=\'170033\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 07:26 PM\'] [quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' post=\'170025\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 06:51 PM\']
And while we're at it, this came up at work today and I couldn't help thinking of this thread immediately. Make a note, "Wheel of Fortune" fans: A single wedge on the wheel measures approximately 12 inches across the top, 5 inches at the base, and 28 inches long (although these measurements aren't precise because the wedge is curved to fit the wheel's shape).
[/quote]
So, basically, the wedges are 28 inches of the 4-foot-3 radiu----- wait, scratch my earlier post. THAT is the most fanboyish thing I know.
/28-over-51 seems right [/quote]
And Chuck's head takes up the other 46" of the diameter.
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Tuvache, Mr. Clementson.
(Not so much a case of geekery as a function of age and long-term memory overwhelming what I am supposed to do five minutes from now.)
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[quote name=\'geno57\' post=\'169974\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 12:43 PM\']Anybody here watch the new CBS comedy, "The Big Bang Theory"? Anyone see yourselves in it?
[/quote]
Absolutely. I even caught the following: Another scientist, played by returning guest star Sara Gilbert (OBGS: sister of Pyramid celebrity Melissa), says in one scene that she's frozen a banana to -390. I found it odd that she'd refer to it in Fahrenheit degrees. She must have, since absolute zero is -273 C.
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[quote name=\'alfonzos\' post=\'170022\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 06:15 PM\']The show that has had the most different hosts: NBC's Concentration (Downs, Barry, Masur, McMahon, Clayton, James and, once, Blumenthal)[/quote]
How much of a fanboy does it make me to know that this is probably wrong? The original version of TTTT had at least seven (Collyer, RQL, Merv Griffin, Gene Rayburn, Ralph Bellamy, Sonny Fox, Jim Fleming) and almost certainly more. And certainly, in total, when you look at all the different versions and especially the nineties turnover, more people have sat in the host's chair for TTTT than for any other show.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'170053\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 10:56 PM\']
[quote name=\'geno57\' post=\'169974\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 12:43 PM\']Anybody here watch the new CBS comedy, "The Big Bang Theory"? Anyone see yourselves in it?[/quote]
Absolutely. I even caught the following: Another scientist, played by returning guest star Sara Gilbert (OBGS: sister of Pyramid celebrity Melissa), says in one scene that she's frozen a banana to -390. I found it odd that she'd refer to it in Fahrenheit degrees. She must have, since absolute zero is -273 C.[/quote]
I read an article saying that they actually have a scientist on staff whose job is to get that stuff right, so either they were going for Fahrenheit or he didn't earn his pay that week!
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Darlene is watching an episode of the Davidson version of $100,000 Pyramid on the episode of Roseanne where she transforms into her dark and sarcastic character.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'170028\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 07:19 PM\'][quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'170003\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 04:30 PM\']My wife and I enjoy watching DrewPiR every day from the DVR...Lately, I've been fine-tuning my knowledge of "Guess the game being played based on the contestant's place on the stage, the reveal, and prize(s)." It boggles my wife's mind how well I do at this. It's completely useless trivia from watching TPiR with a critical, gameshowfan eye since a very young age.
The most basic example is, oh, they're driving the car on the stage, so it's Lucky Seven.
"Prize reveal done from IUFB platform, one 2-digit prize and two 3-digit prizes plus a car. It's Line 'Em Up."
[/quote]
I do that with my fiancee as well..."one 3-digit prize followed by a car? Any Number."
[/quote]
I once declared, "Triple Play!" for the first game based solely on the position of the Turntable during Barker's entrance. My roommate immediately responded, "How did you know that?!"
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'170057\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 11:11 PM\'] The original version of TTTT had at least seven (Collyer, RQL, Merv Griffin, Gene Rayburn, Ralph Bellamy, Sonny Fox, Jim Fleming)
[/quote]
Mark Goodson subbed in a couple of episodes of the daytime run of the original show, if you're counting that. Orson Bean guest-hosted at least one of the primetime run episodes.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'170066\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 10:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'170057\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 11:11 PM\'] The original version of TTTT had at least seven (Collyer, RQL, Merv Griffin, Gene Rayburn, Ralph Bellamy, Sonny Fox, Jim Fleming)
[/quote]
Mark Goodson subbed in a couple of episodes of the daytime run of the original show, if you're counting that. Orson Bean guest-hosted at least one of the primetime run episodes.
[/quote]
Bert Convy did a turn on the CBS daytime series, as well.
-Kevin
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Sorta OT, since it's not a fact that I know, but I'm sure y'all will agree that it's a fanboy-ish thing. I can play the PYL board SFX on a piano. On a keyboard, given the right setting, I can make it sound exactly like the real thing.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'170057\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 11:11 PM\']
[quote name=\'alfonzos\' post=\'170022\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 06:15 PM\']The show that has had the most different hosts: NBC's Concentration (Downs, Barry, Masur, McMahon, Clayton, James and, once, Blumenthal)[/quote]
How much of a fanboy does it make me to know that this is probably wrong?
[/quote]
I caught this last night, but I was too tired to type a correction.
But now that I'm fully rested:
Bud Collyer, Robert Q. Lewis, Merv Griffin, Gene Rayburn, Ralph Bellamy, Sonny Fox, Jim Fleming, Bill Cullen, Orson Bean, Mark Goodson, Bert Convy, Garry Moore, Joe Garagiola, Robin Ward, Gordon Elliott, Alex Trebek, Lynn Swann, John O' Hurley.
That's 18.
Even if you counted all versions of Concentration, that's only nine hosts (Downs, Barry, Masur, McMahon, Clayton, James, Blumenthal, Narz, Trebek).
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'170079\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 06:29 AM\'] But now that I'm fully rested:
Bud Collyer, Robert Q. Lewis, Merv Griffin, Gene Rayburn, Ralph Bellamy, Sonny Fox, Jim Fleming, Bill Cullen, Orson Bean, Mark Goodson, Bert Convy, Garry Moore, Joe Garagiola, Robin Ward, Gordon Elliott, Alex Trebek, Lynn Swann, John O' Hurley.
That's 18. [/quote]
If you want to be truly super-anal (I think there might be a superhero in that somewhere...), you could even go sar far as to count Richard Kline. If the standard is hosting at least 1 episode of a show that made it to air - he *did*, even if that wasn't the intent. I'm still not quite sure how NBC bungled THAT up, but his pilot DID air in a good half the country. As the original point seemed to just be about one iteration of a show, however (IE: the 60s nighttime/daytime shows ONLY), you can scratch everyone from Garry Moore-onward from the list. (Wait, did Bill Cullen guest-host any 60s-era TTTT? I don't recall hearing *that* one before)
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'170061\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 11:28 PM\']
I once declared, "Triple Play!" for the first game based solely on the position of the Turntable during Barker's entrance. My roommate immediately responded, "How did you know that?!"
[/quote]
That reminds me of the days when, for some reason, if Bonus Game was the first to be played, the turntable would be turned around to show the game during the start of the show. I remember this happening fairly often when I was younger, and I could never figure out why.
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I don't know how fan-boyish this is, but I recall that Jim Lange's first big break before Dating Game was announcer/sidekick for ABC's Tennessee Ernie Ford Daytime Variety Show from San Francisco. I should admit, however, that the main reason I know this is that I am a huge fan of the late Mr. Fords's Music..
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That on The Price Is Right, there are a minimum of 2 pricing games per day that are played for a NEW CAAAA!! -- One in each half-hour.
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I know that the first celebrity to successfully complete two Winner's Circle rounds in one episode during the early days of PYRAMID was Joel Grey.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'170081\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 07:33 AM\']
(Wait, did Bill Cullen guest-host any 60s-era TTTT? I don't recall hearing *that* one before)
[/quote]
He was the interim host after Garry Moore retired (and was always meant to be the sub if ever Garry took the day off).
Then Joe Garagiola took over.
Garry came back later in the season to explain his sudden retirement and to officially pass the baton to Joe.
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[quote name=\'Tim L\' post=\'170087\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 08:10 AM\']
I don't know how fan-boyish this is, but I recall that Jim Lange's first big break before Dating Game was announcer/sidekick for ABC's Tennessee Ernie Ford Daytime Variety Show from San Francisco. I should admit, however, that the main reason I know this is that I am a huge fan of the late Mr. Fords's Music..
[/quote]
Which reminded me of one........
One of Elvis' earliest TV appearances was on a local program hosted [or at least, featuring] Wink Martindale.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'170089\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 10:21 AM\']
That on The Price Is Right, there are a minimum of 2 pricing games per day that are played for a NEW CAAAA!! -- One in each half-hour.
[/quote]
And, usually, a cash game. Plinko, In The Bag, Half Off, Punchboard, etc. Sometimes Pass The Buck counts as a cash game, but the other day we had Plinko and PtB.
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When watching Monday Night Football, I usually scare a few people by remarking that the on-screen score, when it changes, reminds me of Solari's...
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'170079\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 06:29 AM\']
But now that I'm fully rested:
Bud Collyer, Robert Q. Lewis, Merv Griffin, Gene Rayburn, Ralph Bellamy, Sonny Fox, Jim Fleming, Bill Cullen, Orson Bean, Mark Goodson, Bert Convy, Garry Moore, Joe Garagiola, Robin Ward, Gordon Elliott, Alex Trebek, Lynn Swann, John O' Hurley.[/quote]
Technically, Alfonzo was originally talking only about the original version of Concentration, so I was limiting my names to only the original version of TTTT. But if we're going all-in, I think Richard Kline absolutely counts - a show that aired by mistake still aired. Also keep in mind that Peggy Cass and Kitty Carlisle each sat in the host's chair for a single game, in both instances because it was known in advance that they knew the central subject.
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Can hum the theme to "Rhyme and Reason." Not the pilot that to some of you kids is your only exposure to that show. The actual *series* theme. And can tell you the three think cues and which cues were used for each break throughout most of the run of the series. I don't even think Lee Ringuette, Gregg Feddersen or Alexis Pedersen could tell you that.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'170095\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 11:05 AM\']
When watching Monday Night Football, I usually scare a few people by remarking that the on-screen score, when it changes, reminds me of Solari's...
[/quote]
This one reminds me:
At the train station where I live, I love to stare at the information board because it uses solaris.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'170057\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 11:11 PM\']
The original version of TTTT had at least seven (Collyer, RQL, Merv Griffin, Gene Rayburn, Ralph Bellamy, Sonny Fox, Jim Fleming) and almost certainly more.
[/quote]
Whoa, I stand corrected.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'170093\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 10:46 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'170089\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 10:21 AM\']That on The Price Is Right, there are a minimum of 2 pricing games per day that are played for a NEW CAAAA!! -- One in each half-hour.[/quote]And, usually, a cash game. Plinko, In The Bag, Half Off, Punchboard, etc. Sometimes Pass The Buck counts as a cash game, but the other day we had Plinko and PtB.[/quote]
And almost always one game with groceries, and one with "small prizes". Almost always played in different halves of the show, too.
(At my fanboy-est, this let me occasionally predict a sixth game from the staging even when it was vague, since it had to be a certain type of game.)
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[quote name=\'Tim L\' post=\'170087\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 06:10 AM\']
I don't know how fan-boyish this is, but I recall that Jim Lange's first big break before Dating Game was announcer/sidekick for ABC's Tennessee Ernie Ford Daytime Variety Show from San Francisco. I should admit, however, that the main reason I know this is that I am a huge fan of the late Mr. Fords's Music..
[/quote]Wow, somebody remembers that show? It was done in the same studio as The Anniversary Game, Oh My Word and The Gong Show pilot (for ABC). I worked on the local news there in 1975. KGO-TV has since abandoned that building.
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'170091\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 10:28 AM\']
He was the interim host after Garry Moore retired (and was always meant to be the sub if ever Garry took the day off). [/quote]
That's not what I meant. When I said 60s-era, I was directly implying the Collyer-era run. You had Bill in among all of *those* guest hosts, and not stuck in between Garry and Joe in an otherwise chronological list - which puzzled me as I'd never heard of Bill guest-hosting THAT version.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'170084\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 07:31 AM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'170061\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 11:28 PM\']
I once declared, "Triple Play!" for the first game based solely on the position of the Turntable during Barker's entrance. My roommate immediately responded, "How did you know that?!"
[/quote]
That reminds me of the days when, for some reason, if Bonus Game was the first to be played, the turntable would be turned around to show the game during the start of the show. I remember this happening fairly often when I was younger, and I could never figure out why.
[/quote]
Are you sure this wasn't the very similar Give or Keep? Give or Keep was always seen in advance because it's the only pricing game whose main prop was placed on the stationary part of the turntable (the small prizes got the privilege of spinning around). Also, Give or Keep was also in the 'box shape' common of the early days (of which Bonus Game and Clock Game are the only surviving examples, I think).
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Not much, but ....
The video used in the pre-wipe portion of the Card Sharks opening is from the pilot, which had a different set. Therefore, the set seen before the wipe effect doesn't match the set seen after.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'170093\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 10:46 AM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'170089\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 10:21 AM\']
That on The Price Is Right, there are a minimum of 2 pricing games per day that are played for a NEW CAAAA!! -- One in each half-hour.
[/quote]
And, usually, a cash game. Plinko, In The Bag, Half Off, Punchboard, etc. Sometimes Pass The Buck counts as a cash game, but the other day we had Plinko and PtB.
[/quote]
Pass the Buck is never regarded as a cash game. In fact, of the 13 shows it was played on last season, 10 of them had a cash game.
And it's also a myth that there's "usually" a cash game. I'll grant that it happens more often than not, but not having one is far from uncommon. For example, of the 175 shows last season, only 115 had a cash game. That leaves a good 60 that didn't -- more than 33% of the episodes.
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You can tell what studio an episode of "Press Your Luck" taped in by looking at the blue windows in the background.
If you can see the audience, you're in 41.
If you can't, you're in 33.
ALSO:
When PYL taped in Studio 41, the audience sat on the same bleachers that were used for Tattletales.
During some commercial outros where the audience area is visible, you can see the red/yellow/blue rugs on the stairs.
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'170108\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 09:16 AM\']At the train station where I live, I love to stare at the information board because it uses solaris.
[/quote]
You live at a train station? We already determined in this thread that I'm far from being the biggest game show fanboy here...and now it turns out I'm not even the biggest railroading fanboy here, either!
(Yeah, I know what you meant. I love train station Solari boards. I passed through the Trenton station this past summer and paused to admire theirs, but I fear it's not long for the world, with the new station under construction. They're getting almost as rare as game show Solari displays...for many of the same reasons.)
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'170165\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 11:31 PM\']And it's also a myth that there's "usually" a cash game. I'll grant that it happens more often than not, but not having one is far from uncommon. For example, of the 175 shows last season, only 115 had a cash game. That leaves a good 60 that didn't -- more than 33% of the episodes.[/quote]
Perhaps you can answer me this--I recall noticing in one past season, at I think the same time that a new cash game was introduced (for a new total of 5?), that they did seem to be making an effort to have a cash game on every episode. I recall being able to predict, with great regularity, Friday's cash games because they would always be the only one that hadn't yet been used during the week. Any facts behind this hazy memory?
(And yes, there were a few years in the past when I watched TPIR with frightening regularity.)
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Since no one has mentioned it, WWTBAM is staged in the same studio where the Money Maze was taped.
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That Judith Keppel was the first Briton to win the million-pound prize on WWTBAM in the UK. And that her final question was the name of the king whose wife was Eleanor of Aquitaine (Henry II, final answer). AND that this same question was used at WWTBAM-Play It! (I believe it was in Orlando, but don't hold me to it) as a million-point question (and the player got it right).
Last one, also from Play It! - the million-point pins are individually numbered on the back.
--Charlie, MPW
/Gee, how does he know that last one?
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'170175\' date=\'Nov 21 2007, 02:07 AM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'170165\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 11:31 PM\']And it's also a myth that there's "usually" a cash game. I'll grant that it happens more often than not, but not having one is far from uncommon. For example, of the 175 shows last season, only 115 had a cash game. That leaves a good 60 that didn't -- more than 33% of the episodes.[/quote]
Perhaps you can answer me this--I recall noticing in one past season, at I think the same time that a new cash game was introduced (for a new total of 5?), that they did seem to be making an effort to have a cash game on every episode. I recall being able to predict, with great regularity, Friday's cash games because they would always be the only one that hadn't yet been used during the week.
[/quote]
Yeah, I seem to remember this happening quite a bit for a while after 1/2 Off debuted.
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The names of the GONG staffers who played Scarlett and Rhett--makeup artist Jefferson Becker (Scarlett) and wardrober Peter Mims (Rhett).
I probably have more useless GONG tidbits than anyone. Then again, GONG was pretty useless itself, but dangit was it fun.
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Speaking of which:
It probably takes somewhat of a fanboy to know that Gene Gene the Dancing Machine was actually an NBC stagehand.
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[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'170259\' date=\'Nov 22 2007, 10:56 AM\']
It probably takes somewhat of a fanboy to know that Gene Gene the Dancing Machine was actually an NBC stagehand.
[/quote]
I don't think it does. I think that tidbit is a little more widely known among general TV aficionados.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'170061\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 11:28 PM\']
I once declared, "Triple Play!" for the first game based solely on the position of the Turntable during Barker's entrance. My roommate immediately responded, "How did you know that?!"
[/quote]
Did you see the potted plant? That was the Triple Play giveaway, until the director changed the staging to use different cameras.
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'170393\' date=\'Nov 24 2007, 10:18 AM\']
Did you see the potted plant?
[/quote]
I thought they stopped showing Rich Fields on camera by then.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'170398\' date=\'Nov 24 2007, 02:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'170393\' date=\'Nov 24 2007, 10:18 AM\']
Did you see the potted plant?
[/quote]
I thought they stopped showing Rich Fields on camera by then.
[/quote]
And there's Chris with the Line of the Day, folks.
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Anything SteveGavazzi ever told me.