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Title: The votes are in...
Post by: PYLW on November 17, 2007, 09:12:20 AM
http://www.gsn.com/onair/ (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/onair/\")

Check for Friday, I think you all will be very much surprised. :)
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Sodboy13 on November 17, 2007, 09:41:07 AM
If not necessarily surprised, then pleased.  I haven't seen a full episode of Jackpot! in forever.  This is gonna be the '89 version, right?

And please, GSN, no Patrick Wayne or F. Lee Bailey on Bullseye.  I'd like to finally see that show for what it really was, as opposed to when I was watching reruns at age 7 and was just mesmerized by the spinny things and blinky lights.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: catnap1972 on November 17, 2007, 09:55:25 AM
[quote name=\'Sodboy13\' post=\'169748\' date=\'Nov 17 2007, 09:41 AM\']
If not necessarily surprised, then pleased.  I haven't seen a full episode of Jackpot! in forever.  This is gonna be the '89 version, right?

And please, GSN, no Patrick Wayne or F. Lee Bailey on Bullseye.  I'd like to finally see that show for what it really was, as opposed to when I was watching reruns at age 7 and was just mesmerized by the spinny things and blinky lights.
[/quote]

Not saying that it means anything, but the commercial they've been running (with the brief clips) showed a civilian ep of Bullseye.

Speaking of which, that same commercial has a snippet of '70s Treasure Hunt with an older woman in a pink pantsuit who obviously had one of the gift boxes with the number in it.  Is it one of the three episodes GSN's aired in the past or could they surprise us with another one?
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: tvmitch on November 17, 2007, 10:19:02 AM
That 3:30-6:30pm lineup right there is straight out of the Dark Period some 10 years ago. Great stuff. The Jackpot episode is a treat.

Those three hours wouldn't be a bad weekday or weekend morning lineup, either.

How long has it been since so many different vintage shows are on one week's lineup? Monty BtC, Trebek DD, Hot Potato, Jackpot, Pyramid...I don't think that we've had this in a long time, at least since one of the marathons where premieres or finales aired.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: chad1m on November 17, 2007, 11:42:15 AM
I'm just really surprised, knowing the average GSN viewer, that I don't see any Lingo or Dog Eat Dog on here. The only original I wouldn't have minded seeing again was Friend or Foe?, but no originals are on here, period. Nice work, friends.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 17, 2007, 04:41:03 PM
Un-freakin-believable.  I fully expected to see a lineup consisting mostly of the same ole' shit, with maybe a bit of TJW or TTD sprinkled in. *This?*  This is outstanding.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: beatlefreak84 on November 17, 2007, 05:07:14 PM
Oh; I completely agree.  I was SHOCKED to see Jackpot?  Bullseye?  Treasure Hunt?  And not one single GSN original?  Not that I'm complaining, as the VCR will be getting quite a workout that day!  :)

But, I'm really curious:  I figured a lot of us were voting in shows like this, but the general GSN population was, too?  People would rather see Bullseye than Lingo?  Jackpot than Millionaire?  That is really surprising to me.  I'm certainly not going to expect more shows coming out of the vault on a regular basis, but I wonder if the higher-ups are taking note of the results, especially that, of the top 18 shows, not one was a GSN original.

Here's to a happy Thanksgiving...for all of us!  :)

/crossing fingers for a non-celebrity Bullseye...

Anthony
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 17, 2007, 05:21:29 PM
[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' post=\'169778\' date=\'Nov 17 2007, 06:07 PM\'] top 18 shows,[/quote]

Top 20.  Marathon's ten hours.  20 shows.  

The more I look at it, the more the results, assuming they're progressing from worst-to-first in voting totals...look laregely upside-down.  Does anyone actually think Hot Potato is more popular than Match Game, Family Feud?  (Though I imagine the college demographic, given the chance, would love to see Bill tossing potatoes at contestants).  Take a look at the 2003 Feast results sometime or another (I'm sure they're around here somewhere using the search function).  I doubt the actual viewer opinion (aside from the nudges given to Bullseye and TJW) is much off from that.

But where *were* all the "average GSN viewers" that's always talked about.  Were they just not interested in voting?  Do they *actually* prefer Jackpot and Hot Potato over Match Game and Family Feud?  Or has GSN's viewership eroded so much that there's just not many of them left?   The way I was honestly expecting this to turn out was basically the first half of the marathon, minus Trivia Trap, plus LMAD, sprinkle in Millionaire, a couple originals, and maybe Pyramid, Wheel, and maybe TJW near the bottom, and there you go.  This was wholly unexpected, and I can't help but wonder just how the hell it happened.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: saussage on November 17, 2007, 10:20:55 PM
Can't wait to watch Jackpot. Maybe we're all ready for another run of Hot Potato? The last time they did they ran that series down to the ground to the point that I was happy to see it go away. I now hope the wait is over and not to overheat those 8-tracks for another round. On a series like Hot Potato that lasted for under 1 year, they cannot run it on a 5-day weekday skid; repeats would occur too quick. Play it once per week or use it for weekends only.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on November 18, 2007, 01:43:21 AM
The demographic that participates in internet polls is different than the demographic that watches GSN.  Women are the target audience of game shows and the shows are designed to appeal to them.  Yet on our forum, there are but a handful of females of the species participating.  I think it's cool that GSN does the poll, but I don't think it necessarily reflects the opinion of all GSN viewers.

Besides, most women will be out shopping on Friday rather than plunked down in front of the tube, so even if they were interested they wouldn't be watching anyway.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: HYHYBT on November 18, 2007, 02:34:12 AM
Quote
(Though I imagine the college demographic, given the chance, would love to see Bill tossing potatoes at contestants).
No, please, PLEASE no...
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Craig Karlberg on November 18, 2007, 03:33:25 AM
This is truly a surprise.  Not one GSN original...Great!  Not that I'm conplaining but this certainly makes me wanna feast on GSN this Friday.  I may not watch all 10 hours, but at least I'll see some shows I haven't seen in years like Jackpot! even if it's from 1989 or Treasure Hunt("Jamaca mistake?").  I haven't had a chance to really watch some serious GSN since they had those neat interactive games like Trivia Track & Super Decades.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: TLEberle on November 18, 2007, 06:17:19 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'169802\' date=\'Nov 17 2007, 10:43 PM\']The demographic that participates in internet polls...[/quote]Can you actually back any of this up, or is it just empty speculation and stereotyping?
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on November 18, 2007, 06:51:02 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'169859\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 06:17 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'169802\' date=\'Nov 17 2007, 10:43 PM\']The demographic that participates in internet polls...[/quote]Can you actually back any of this up, or is it just empty speculation and stereotyping?
[/quote]


You don't think Women 25-54 voted for "Bullseye," do you?
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: TLEberle on November 18, 2007, 11:02:11 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'169861\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 03:51 PM\']You don't think Women 25-54 voted for "Bullseye," do you?[/quote]I don't know. I don't claim to know what the demographics were. I'm just calling you out for saying that women are too interested in 6am doorbuster sales to watch game shows.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: clemon79 on November 19, 2007, 01:17:59 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'169905\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 08:02 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'169861\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 03:51 PM\']You don't think Women 25-54 voted for "Bullseye," do you?[/quote]I don't know. I don't claim to know what the demographics were. I'm just calling you out for saying that women are too interested in 6am doorbuster sales to watch game shows.
[/quote]
But that's not what he said.

Well, let me rephrase...that IS what he said (see the literary conceit known as "sarcasm") but that's not the point you called him out on. Your quote made it sound like you were calling him out based on the idea that the demo that votes in the poll and the demo that watches GSN are the same. And if you want to do that, great, but you won't get a lot of support because he's 100% dead right there.

So if you want to call him out on THAT point, then quote that point. But be prepared to feel a little silly because I'm pretty sure that comment was tongue-in-cheek.

/now get yer biatch-ass back in the kitchen, and make me some pie
//and a sammich
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: TLEberle on November 19, 2007, 01:51:16 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'169914\' date=\'Nov 18 2007, 10:17 PM\']So if you want to call him out on THAT point, then quote that point. But be prepared to feel a little silly because I'm pretty sure that comment was tongue-in-cheek.[/quote]Fair enough. Please pass the Gee This Crow Tastes Terrific!

/because after all, the smell isn't doing anything for me
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: dzinkin on November 19, 2007, 07:05:16 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'169921\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 01:51 AM\']
Fair enough. Please pass the Gee This Crow Tastes Terrific!

/because after all, the smell isn't doing anything for me
[/quote]
Maybe this (http://\"http://www.baconsalt.com/\") will improve the taste a bit. ;-)
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: xavier45 on November 19, 2007, 08:42:40 PM
I don't know if this means anything, but the GSN listings now show "Viewer's Choice Marathon" instead of the show that is airing on Friday. I wonder if that list that was put out was a false one? I hope not.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 19, 2007, 11:43:19 PM
[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'170037\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 08:42 PM\'] I don't know if this means anything, but the GSN listings now show "Viewer's Choice Marathon" instead of the show that is airing on Friday. I wonder if that list that was put out was a false one? I hope not. [/quote]

It's possible they just didn't want the list getting out.   Sounds more likely than a "false list".  The on-air guide is automated, so if someone wasn't careful the show titles would display.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Adam Nedeff on November 19, 2007, 11:47:42 PM
[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'170037\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 09:42 PM\']
I don't know if this means anything, but the GSN listings now show "Viewer's Choice Marathon" instead of the show that is airing on Friday. I wonder if that list that was put out was a false one? I hope not.
[/quote]
I choose to presume the worst. Let's all bend over and get ready to enjoy six hours of "Burt Luddin's Love Buffet."
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: PYLdude on November 19, 2007, 11:58:23 PM
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'169937\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 07:05 AM\']
Maybe this (http://\"http://www.baconsalt.com/\") will improve the taste a bit. ;-)
[/quote]

[Strong Bad]Wow. I thought I knew what ridiculous was, until this day.[/SB]

(I thought I'd seen it all...thank you, Mr. Zinkin, for proving me wrong. :))
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: DjohnsonCB on November 20, 2007, 10:42:09 PM
[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'170062\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 11:43 PM\']
[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'170037\' date=\'Nov 19 2007, 08:42 PM\'] I don't know if this means anything, but the GSN listings now show "Viewer's Choice Marathon" instead of the show that is airing on Friday. I wonder if that list that was put out was a false one? I hope not. [/quote]

It's possible they just didn't want the list getting out.   Sounds more likely than a "false list".  The on-air guide is automated, so if someone wasn't careful the show titles would display.
[/quote]
Well then, is the actual show list still available anywhere?  I wanted to take a long look at it and see for myself which shows would be the top priority for me recording while I am gone that day.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: cool245 on November 20, 2007, 11:36:07 PM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'170163\' date=\'Nov 20 2007, 10:42 PM\']
Well then, is the actual show list still available anywhere?  I wanted to take a long look at it and see for myself which shows would be the top priority for me recording while I am gone that day.
[/quote]

Buzzerblog.com has it. As of this post it is the third article.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 21, 2007, 12:21:29 AM
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpo...amp;postcount=1 (http://\"http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=3713501&postcount=1\")
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 23, 2007, 09:04:43 AM
The first episode *is* Dawson Feud, as expected.  It's the episode with the "September" blooper from every blooper special ever, from 1980.

As a side note, in the background of the one bumper used in the marathon so far was a group of logos sliding around.  Lots of routine stuff like Tic Tac Dough, To Tell the Truth, etc.  One of the logos caught me by surprise a bit:  TPiR.  Probably meaningless, but I wanted to head this off at the pass.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: PYLW on November 23, 2007, 10:15:08 AM
Next was an episode of Tattletales from 1983. Meg Ryan was one of the celebrities.

Right now is Super Password's 1985 (?) Tournament of Champions finale.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 23, 2007, 10:33:49 AM
10:30: Card Sharks (Eubanks) - It's the 2/4/86 episode with first game Cyndi vs. Susan. Susan is blind and has her seeing eye dog on stage with her - the dog has it's own nametag.

/Episode data courtesy Nicholas Mooneyhan's old site courtesy the Internet Archive (http://\"http://web.archive.org/web/20021022053918/www.mounet.com/~genzone/episodeguides/cardsharks86/cs86-1.html\")
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: catnap1972 on November 23, 2007, 11:08:51 AM
11am (MG) is the ever infamous "Cuckoo Friend and Ollie" episode.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: catnap1972 on November 23, 2007, 11:32:14 AM
11:30am brings us an episode of "Trivia Trap" with the later ("new and improved") format
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 23, 2007, 11:35:36 AM
11:30 AM (Trivia Trap) is the second episode with the revised 2nd format - episode 52 of the series.  Seniors retire as 5-day undefeated champs with $44,400 combined.

12:00 PM (Password Plus) is an episode from the sixth week of the run (1979), with guests Elaine Joyce and Tom Kennedy.  Tom makes the joke that he's glad he's a player and not an emcee for the show.  

12:30 PM (Press Your Luck) is a 1984 episode featuring Veronica, who was planning to be a mortician - but her husband made her stop after she put an ear in his lunch.  Peter nearly collapses from laughter.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 23, 2007, 12:09:49 PM
Which episode of Password Plus are they showing right now? I hope it's not Rich Cronin's episode.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: xavier45 on November 23, 2007, 12:40:03 PM
Password Plus at noon had Password Plus's biggest Champion in the early run with over $17,000. The celeb's were Elaine Joyce and Tom Kennedy.
PYL is on now with Veronica the Mortician.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 23, 2007, 12:43:40 PM
[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'170317\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 01:09 PM\'] Which episode of Password Plus are they showing right now? I hope it's not Rich Cronin's episode. [/quote]

The only reason that episode ever got frequent rotation in programming stunts on GSN for the last several years was that the man was the head of the network.  Now that he's left GSN, don't expect that episode to ever show up anywhere other than the regular rotation ever again.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: chad1m on November 23, 2007, 02:22:23 PM
The 2:00 Wheel of Fortune features Pat mistaking the speed-up round effect for the "only vowels left" noise and the hilarity that ensues afterwards.

I also forgot about all the cool mid-90s camera shots Wheel uses with the crane. Those are pretty much absent today.

EDIT: And woah, my goodness. A Vegas Let's Make a Deal.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: catnap1972 on November 23, 2007, 02:32:35 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'170338\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 02:22 PM\']

EDIT: And woah, my goodness. A Vegas Let's Make a Deal.
[/quote]

Not just 'A' Vegas episode, the finale!
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: xavier45 on November 23, 2007, 03:21:39 PM
Match Game PM is a funny episode from 1975 that features a big win at the end. The panel is William Shatner, BS, CNR, Lee Meriweather, RD, and JB.

The real rarities start next with Hot Potato.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Scott on November 23, 2007, 03:32:28 PM
And now, the really fun part of this marathon begins, with Hot Potato
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: tvwxman on November 23, 2007, 03:38:40 PM
[quote name=\'Scott\' post=\'170348\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 03:32 PM\']
And now, the really fun part of this marathon begins, with Hot Potato
[/quote]
I'm sorry, 'why' ?
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: catnap1972 on November 23, 2007, 03:44:16 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'170350\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 03:38 PM\']
[quote name=\'Scott\' post=\'170348\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 03:32 PM\']
And now, the really fun part of this marathon begins, with Hot Potato
[/quote]
I'm sorry, 'why' ?
[/quote]

Apparently GSN thinks trollz need love too...
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: catnap1972 on November 23, 2007, 04:09:29 PM
4pm brings us 70s Treasure Hunt and it's definitely not the same ep that aired during 50GGS, nor the premiere.  Is it that 1974 episode GSN ran way way back or a different one altogether?
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: BrandonFG on November 23, 2007, 04:15:05 PM
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' post=\'170352\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 03:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'170350\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 03:38 PM\']
[quote name=\'Scott\' post=\'170348\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 03:32 PM\']
And now, the really fun part of this marathon begins, with Hot Potato
[/quote]
I'm sorry, 'why' ?
[/quote]

Apparently GSN thinks trollz need love too...
[/quote]
tat wuz a funi. :-P
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: catnap1972 on November 23, 2007, 04:18:58 PM
Treasure Hunt's a keeper that's for sure!
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: jdhernandez on November 23, 2007, 05:32:56 PM
Jackpot! is also a keeper, and an excellent non-celebrity episode of Bullseye followed that.

....and now, it's Hal Shearer (sp?) and his lucky suit on The Joker's Wild.

This is fun! =)
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Chief-O on November 23, 2007, 06:10:33 PM
[quote name=\'jdhernandez\' post=\'170359\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 04:32 PM\']
....and now, it's Hal Shearer (sp?) and his lucky suit on The Joker's Wild.
[/quote]

Just Shear, IMO.

TTD is a fairly early ep. from Thom McKee's reign----he only had $11K at the start of this one!
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: xavier45 on November 23, 2007, 06:27:40 PM
[quote name=\'Chief-O\' post=\'170361\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 06:10 PM\']
TTD is a fairly early ep. from Thom McKee's reign----he only had $11K at the start of this one!
[/quote]
And he ends it with $30,400 including his first of 8 cars.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: PYLW on November 23, 2007, 06:31:56 PM
$100,000 Pyramid is from a tournament week from 1986-1987.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Steve McClellan on November 23, 2007, 08:51:58 PM
[quote name=\'jdhernandez\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 02:32 PM\'] ....and now, it's Hal Shearer (sp?) and his lucky suit on The Joker's Wild.[/quote]
And that episode is proof positive that The Joker's Wild sucks copious quantites of nether region.

[AndyKaufman] But, she answered all ze questions ze right way! [/AndyKaufman]
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: That Don Guy on November 23, 2007, 09:34:04 PM
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' post=\'170355\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 01:18 PM\']
Treasure Hunt's a keeper that's for sure![/quote]
That was the infamous episode...

SPOILER (click and drag between >> and <<)
>>[color=\"#E8E8FF\"]...that aired (at least the stunt with the Rolls Royce win) on 60 Minutes once; the twist is, this was a decade before the 38% maximum tax bracket, and the taxes on an $11,000 prize were so high that she had to sell the car in order to pay them.[/color]<<

One question: when they showed the two Chevy Vegas, that music sounded incredibly familiar.  Was that another show's theme?  (I'm thinking maybe something like The Parent Game.)

-- Don
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 23, 2007, 09:35:28 PM
So what were your thoughts on the marathon?

My thoughts: I thought this marathon was great, great choices made by the people who voted for the shows, and the episode choices, for the most part, were great, too.

Oh, and one more thing: Now that the Thanksgiving marathons are over, when GSN returns to the normal weekday rotation next Monday, will they pick up right where they left off on the shows in the normal schedule, or will they skip some episodes?
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on November 23, 2007, 09:36:34 PM
[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' post=\'170369\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 09:34 PM\']
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' post=\'170355\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 01:18 PM\']
Treasure Hunt's a keeper that's for sure![/quote]
That was the infamous episode...

One question: when they showed the two Chevy Vegas, that music sounded incredibly familiar.  Was that another show's theme?  (I'm thinking maybe something like The Parent Game.)

-- Don
[/quote]

That was "Baja California", I believe.
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Post by: SRIV94 on November 23, 2007, 09:58:37 PM
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' post=\'170355\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 03:18 PM\']
Treasure Hunt's a keeper that's for sure!
[/quote]
Agreed.

I was fortunate enough at the last Congreff to meet Geoff Edwards.  Sounding totally fanboi, I said to Edwards that while I understood the reason he was there was to honor Bob Stewart, having done CR and JACKPOT! for Stewart, as far as I was concerned the best thing he ever did was TH.  He seemed to appreciate that.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: ChuckNet on November 24, 2007, 01:01:43 AM
Would be interested in trading for a coupla eps off that marathon...if anyone got it, preferrably on DVR, e-mail me and we can work something out.

Chuck Donegan (The Working-On-Thanksgiving "Chuckie Baby")
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Johnissoevil on November 24, 2007, 03:35:08 AM
What did they give us for Bullseye?  Another celeb ep?  Did Jim Lange tell Jon Bauman that he'd be a great game show host? *g*
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Allstar87 on November 24, 2007, 04:22:24 AM
[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'170381\' date=\'Nov 24 2007, 03:35 AM\']
What did they give us for Bullseye?
[/quote]

A 1981 civilian episode. And unlike last Feast of Favorites, we actually got to see Bonus Island!
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: clemon79 on November 24, 2007, 06:19:42 AM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' post=\'170367\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 05:51 PM\']
And that episode is proof positive that The Joker's Wild sucks copious quantites of nether region.[/quote]
Why? Because Shear sniped the game? That would be the "Lady Luck is Queen" part of the whole equation.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Sodboy13 on November 24, 2007, 10:48:37 AM
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'170382\' date=\'Nov 24 2007, 03:22 AM\']
[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'170381\' date=\'Nov 24 2007, 03:35 AM\']
What did they give us for Bullseye?
[/quote]

A 1981 civilian episode. And unlike last Feast of Favorites, we actually got to see Bonus Island!
[/quote]

Sheezus, did we ever.  That took what, ten minutes to play out?  And the rest of the game just seemed to have an unnatural amount of drag to it, unlike B&E's two other big quizzers of the day.  That Millionaire-style pacing really doesn't work when the stakes are only 4-digit.  I've gotta agree with what I've read about this show before: if they picked up the pace a bit, and made the questions more of a challenge (becoming more difficult in longer contracts,) this one could have been salvageable.  Instead, they added celebrities.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Scrabbleship on November 24, 2007, 12:41:37 PM
I hate to sound like a worry-wart, but I hope some of these episodes end up on YouTube or somewhere. My DVR just had to conk out while I was out of town and didn't record the marathon (and it didn't help where I was staying is temporarily GSN-less).

If Time Warner was a cat, I'd be swatting them with a broom.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: clemon79 on November 24, 2007, 02:17:32 PM
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'170391\' date=\'Nov 24 2007, 09:41 AM\']
I hate to sound like a worry-wart, but I hope some of these episodes end up on YouTube or somewhere.[/quote]
It's not a worry-wart that you sound like.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: bandit_bobby on November 24, 2007, 05:21:22 PM
It was nice to see different than usual episodes from those shows we don't get to see on the current GSN schedule.

-The episode from the last version of Jackpot! with a $13,500 Super Jackpot win was great to watch!

-After watching the Bullseye episode, I now know that the 10-spin maximum from the original version of Bonus Island has been achieved more than once.
Title: The votes are in...
Post by: Steve McClellan on November 24, 2007, 06:40:37 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'170383\' date=\'Nov 24 2007, 03:19 AM\'] [quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' post=\'170367\' date=\'Nov 23 2007, 05:51 PM\']
And that episode is proof positive that The Joker's Wild sucks copious quantites of nether region.[/quote]
Why? Because Shear sniped the game? That would be the "Lady Luck is Queen" part of the whole equation. [/quote]
For some reason, I find myself quite unfond of any game where a player can play absolutely perfectly and lose to a guy who blew an easy question.

/Not that there's any other kind of question on a B&E show.
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Post by: clemon79 on November 24, 2007, 06:46:44 PM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' post=\'170422\' date=\'Nov 24 2007, 03:40 PM\']
For some reason, I find myself quite unfond of any game where a player can play absolutely perfectly and lose to a guy who blew an easy question.[/quote]
Fair enough. For me, the stakes are so low, and they are so up-front about luck playing a major factor (they tell you directly in the intro: you have to be smart AND lucky), that it just doesn't bother me. It is what it is, it doesn't pretend to be anything else, and that's fine.
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Post by: ChrisLambert! on November 25, 2007, 12:33:17 PM
Question for the pedantic: wasn't this ep of Joker the last syndie ep that aired on the Sunday night schedule some 4 years ago? I remember they replaced it with CBS Joker for a few weeks before taking the show off entirely.
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Post by: Jay Temple on November 25, 2007, 07:37:56 PM
If you're right, it was more than four years ago. I got GSN in 2002, and I would've remembered TJW being on the schedule.
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Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on November 25, 2007, 07:46:28 PM
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'170484\' date=\'Nov 25 2007, 08:37 PM\'] If you're right, it was more than four years ago. I got GSN in 2002, and I would've remembered TJW being on the schedule. [/quote]

They pulled it off for good in late-August 2001.  They'd just finished the April 1973 abbreviated Kids Week.

Memory's a bit rusty, but I want to say they were actually to the 1978 $100,000 Tournament when they swapped in the CBS run on Sunday nights (after having pulled said CBS run from weekdays).  It could have been Hal though.
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Post by: sshuffield70 on November 25, 2007, 07:47:25 PM
ISTR, Joker being on Sunday nights when I first got GSN.  It was taken off when PYL and LMAD premiered.
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Post by: jdhernandez on November 26, 2007, 04:58:49 AM
They did get to the end of Hal's run, and also went a couple episodes past the tournament where Hal played. The only reason I remember that it aired was because of his final episode on TJW.

/"Schenectady"
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Post by: 1984Gameshowsfan on November 26, 2007, 04:47:50 PM
My various thoughts on the marathon:

Didn't get to see the Family Feud episode, I woke up at about 6:35 AM.
 
The Tattletales episode was awesome, I haven't seen much of the 80's run of the show

My family and I were out doing errands so I didn't get to see the shows from 11 AM-1 PM, my family and I got home during the last 3 minutes or so of Hot Potato.

TJW: 2 words, Holy Cow! Hal Shear needed 3 Jokers and he got them, great episode!

Never seen and episode of Bullseye or Jackpot on GSN before for various reasons,
Jackpot: good show, maybe it could work today
Bullseye: Jeez that Bonus Round took forever, that Bonus game must have taken at least 10 minutes to play give or take a few.

Password: Very cool to see an episode from the original run

PYL: Woah, Veronica has a very weird sense of humor

As for everything else, it was fantastic I give the marathon(at least the shows I got to see) an A+, keep it up GSN.
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Post by: ChuckNet on November 27, 2007, 05:36:31 AM
Found a source...thanks to all who replied!

Chuck Donegan (The Grateful "Chuckie Baby")
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Post by: uncamark on November 28, 2007, 07:06:10 PM
Thanks to Comcast listing it as one program, I watched and fast forwarded some of it ("PYL" front game, B&E end games except for Bonus Island, "CS" front game) overnight Saturday/Sunday.

Meg Ryan was [Letterman on Mary Hart] too damn perky [Letterman] even in 1982--and she had to wear a loose top, too!  :)

The "Treasure Hunt" ep was notable as the first recorded contestant fainting of the series, when Vera saw that Rolls Royce--Barris noted it in I believe "Confessions," only changing the contestant's last name to "Flotsam."

I'm still fascinated by "Bullseye," although I assume I would be less fascinated if I had been able to watch it every weekday instead of once-every-few-years.  Nice to note that inserting a commercial break in a climatic moment in the end game is not something Endemolian or Darnellian (although Darnell would probably show the contestant hitting the plunger and then going to commercial).

Geoff's always good, but 1974 "Jackpot!" was always better than 1989 "Jackpot!"  Outside of the Return Trip gimmick, I never warmed to the tweaks that the show went though in the 80s (most of them in the Canadian era).
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Post by: BrandonFG on November 28, 2007, 07:16:16 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'170729\' date=\'Nov 28 2007, 07:06 PM\']
(although Darnell would probably show the contestant hitting the plunger and then going to commercial).
[/quote]
And showing a Mark Thompson preview clip of Jim Lange asking the contestant what to do, as the obligatory tear drop rolls down her face.

/I'm starting to hate the current state of game shows more and more
//Even more so by reading about Password 08.
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Post by: Jay Temple on November 28, 2007, 08:41:59 PM
I have an odd memory that involves two shows from the marathon, actually one show from the marathon and a prior incarnation of another. On at least one ep of Treasure Hunt, Geoff referred to the $25K as the biggest prize on TV, and I thought, "You know better than that!" The incarnation of Jackpot! that aired at that time had a bigger potential Super Jackpot. They generated a random figure that could go as high as $995, like what we saw on the 1989 version, and a multiplier between 5 and 50. Multiplying those two gave you the Super Jackpot amount. (They also stipulated that if the highest figure and a 50 came up together, they'd make it an even $50,000.)
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Post by: J.R. on November 28, 2007, 10:11:31 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'170730\' date=\'Nov 28 2007, 06:16 PM\']/I'm starting to hate the current state of game shows more and more
//Even more so by reading about Password 08.[/quote]
Please send in that resume, sir. :-)
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Post by: clemon79 on November 28, 2007, 10:53:28 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'170729\' date=\'Nov 28 2007, 04:06 PM\']
I'm still fascinated by "Bullseye," although I assume I would be less fascinated if I had been able to watch it every weekday instead of once-every-few-years.[/quote]
Not really. It was enjoyable when you could watch it daily, too. I've always had a thing for that particular building-a-bank concept.
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Post by: Neumms on November 29, 2007, 01:24:33 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'170777\' date=\'Nov 28 2007, 10:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'170729\' date=\'Nov 28 2007, 04:06 PM\']
I'm still fascinated by "Bullseye," although I assume I would be less fascinated if I had been able to watch it every weekday instead of once-every-few-years.[/quote]
Not really. It was enjoyable when you could watch it daily, too. I've always had a thing for that particular building-a-bank concept.
[/quote]

Nah, I wasn't all that fascinated. If they'd have produced it as a more serious alternative to Tic-Tac-Dough and Joker's Wild, it could have been cool. But the spinny wheely gizmo was dopey, the set was dopey and Jim Lange was, uh, not as sharp as someone else may have been.

Not that bringing F. Lee Bailey and Harvey Korman to the same stage wasn't worth something.
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Post by: uncamark on November 29, 2007, 06:33:59 PM
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'170757\' date=\'Nov 28 2007, 07:41 PM\']
I have an odd memory that involves two shows from the marathon, actually one show from the marathon and a prior incarnation of another. On at least one ep of Treasure Hunt, Geoff referred to the $25K as the biggest prize on TV, and I thought, "You know better than that!" The incarnation of Jackpot! that aired at that time had a bigger potential Super Jackpot. They generated a random figure that could go as high as $995, like what we saw on the 1989 version, and a multiplier between 5 and 50. Multiplying those two gave you the Super Jackpot amount. (They also stipulated that if the highest figure and a 50 came up together, they'd make it an even $50,000.)
[/quote]

Split 50/50 between the Expert/King of the Hill and the holder of the Jackpot/Super Jackpot riddle.  It's a tie--and besides, Bob Stewart would kill himself if $995 X 50 ever happened.  :)

Besides, when "New TH" started in 1973, it was "television's richest treasure."  If Draper Lewis wrote it and Chuck Barris approved it, then it's so.  :)
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Post by: clemon79 on November 29, 2007, 07:23:13 PM
Yeah, remember that that statement came from the same man who suggested that the Newlywed Game prize was selected "especially for them." :)
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Post by: Neumms on November 30, 2007, 02:36:44 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'170900\' date=\'Nov 29 2007, 07:23 PM\']
Yeah, remember that that statement came from the same man who suggested that the Newlywed Game prize was selected "especially for them." :)
[/quote]

It was! It was! The contestants picked what kind of a prize they'd want if they won, and they put those contestants together when they had it. It took me 30-some years to discover the answer to that!

Has anyone verified if the 30 Treasure Hunt boxes truly had thirty different contents? Let's say a certain number of boxes are klunks. Couldn't they have been the same klunk to make production easier? If it's picked the first game, they have a back-up clunk for the second? Maybe they have two bits set up for any of 8 boxes with checks inside, two bits for the six boxes with cars.
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Post by: uncamark on November 30, 2007, 02:46:28 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'170962\' date=\'Nov 30 2007, 01:36 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'170900\' date=\'Nov 29 2007, 07:23 PM\']
Yeah, remember that that statement came from the same man who suggested that the Newlywed Game prize was selected "especially for them." :)
[/quote]

It was! It was! The contestants picked what kind of a prize they'd want if they won, and they put those contestants together when they had it. It took me 30-some years to discover the answer to that!

Has anyone verified if the 30 Treasure Hunt boxes truly had thirty different contents? Let's say a certain number of boxes are klunks. Couldn't they have been the same klunk to make production easier? If it's picked the first game, they have a back-up clunk for the second? Maybe they have two bits set up for any of 8 boxes with checks inside, two bits for the six boxes with cars.
[/quote]

Things had to be that way for the 1981 version, with the 66 boxes.

Also factor in what was in the boxes (and there may have been more than six car boxes) two or three furniture rooms and two or three trip/jewelry/fur/spending cash (all of which with the "Added Surprises").
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Post by: clemon79 on November 30, 2007, 02:58:35 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'170962\' date=\'Nov 30 2007, 11:36 AM\']
It was! It was! The contestants picked what kind of a prize they'd want if they won, and they put those contestants together when they had it. It took me 30-some years to discover the answer to that![/quote]
Thanks, yes, I know that. However, that kinda precludes usage of the word "espeically", does it not?
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Post by: Neumms on November 30, 2007, 03:00:29 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'170965\' date=\'Nov 30 2007, 02:46 PM\']
Things had to be that way for the 1981 version, with the 66 boxes.

Also factor in what was in the boxes (and there may have been more than six car boxes) two or three furniture rooms and two or three trip/jewelry/fur/spending cash (all of which with the "Added Surprises").
[/quote]

So it's only taken me 40 years to figure this one out! I know I've read on sites, though, how Geoff had to memorize 30 different skits, and there's no doubt he had work to do, just not THAT much.
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Post by: Neumms on November 30, 2007, 03:03:26 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'170967\' date=\'Nov 30 2007, 02:58 PM\']
Thanks, yes, I know that. However, that kinda precludes usage of the word "espeically", does it not?
[/quote]

Well, for sure it would preclude "just for you," since it was chosen for the three losing couples, too.
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Post by: That Don Guy on December 06, 2007, 03:35:55 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'170890\' date=\'Nov 29 2007, 03:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'170757\' date=\'Nov 28 2007, 07:41 PM\']
I have an odd memory that involves two shows from the marathon, actually one show from the marathon and a prior incarnation of another. On at least one ep of Treasure Hunt, Geoff referred to the $25K as the biggest prize on TV, and I thought, "You know better than that!" The incarnation of Jackpot! that aired at that time had a bigger potential Super Jackpot. They generated a random figure that could go as high as $995, like what we saw on the 1989 version, and a multiplier between 5 and 50. Multiplying those two gave you the Super Jackpot amount. (They also stipulated that if the highest figure and a 50 came up together, they'd make it an even $50,000.)
[/quote]
Split 50/50 between the Expert/King of the Hill and the holder of the Jackpot/Super Jackpot riddle.  It's a tie--and besides, Bob Stewart would kill himself if $995 X 50 ever happened.  :)[/quote]
Also tied with the weekly syndicated $25,000 Pyramid and Jeopardy! at the time.

And didn't 995 x 50 happen once - and either somebody reached the target or there was a Super Jackpot riddle in that game?  (Wasn't "I'm present tense and past tense" for $50,000?)
Also, there was one time when, because of a malfunction, the target was 55, and Standards & Practices allowed it.

-- Don
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Post by: uncamark on December 06, 2007, 05:32:10 PM
[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' post=\'171449\' date=\'Dec 6 2007, 02:35 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'170890\' date=\'Nov 29 2007, 03:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'170757\' date=\'Nov 28 2007, 07:41 PM\']
I have an odd memory that involves two shows from the marathon, actually one show from the marathon and a prior incarnation of another. On at least one ep of Treasure Hunt, Geoff referred to the $25K as the biggest prize on TV, and I thought, "You know better than that!" The incarnation of Jackpot! that aired at that time had a bigger potential Super Jackpot. They generated a random figure that could go as high as $995, like what we saw on the 1989 version, and a multiplier between 5 and 50. Multiplying those two gave you the Super Jackpot amount. (They also stipulated that if the highest figure and a 50 came up together, they'd make it an even $50,000.)
[/quote]
Split 50/50 between the Expert/King of the Hill and the holder of the Jackpot/Super Jackpot riddle.  It's a tie--and besides, Bob Stewart would kill himself if $995 X 50 ever happened.  :)[/quote]
Also tied with the weekly syndicated $25,000 Pyramid and Jeopardy! at the time.

And didn't 995 x 50 happen once - and either somebody reached the target or there was a Super Jackpot riddle in that game?  (Wasn't "I'm present tense and past tense" for $50,000?)
Also, there was one time when, because of a malfunction, the target was 55, and Standards & Practices allowed it.[/quote]

After I made this post, I do recall $995 X 50 happening and that there was a Super Jackpot riddle in the game (I only saw in the original only one Target match--and the Expert couldn't find the Jackpot riddle to complete the play--but I didn't see every show and it was over 30 years ago).  I don't remember what the riddle was.  I suspect they still had to keep the sharp objects away from Bob Stewart.  :)

I don't remember the multiplier showing 55 (probably due to a sticking Solari board).
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Post by: beatlefreak84 on December 07, 2007, 09:12:05 AM
Quote
After I made this post, I do recall $995 X 50 happening and that there was a Super Jackpot riddle in the game (I only saw in the original only one Target match--and the Expert couldn't find the Jackpot riddle to complete the play--but I didn't see every show and it was over 30 years ago). I don't remember what the riddle was. I suspect they still had to keep the sharp objects away from Bob Stewart. :)

While I never saw the episode in question (sad to say that I wasn't born yet!), I do recall Geoff telling the story of that riddle to Da Perf, and it was, "I'm present tense and past tense..."  He said that the contestant got it wrong, and he could hear Stewart yell from offstage, "SOUND THE BUZZER!"  He also said that, yes; the crowd became a little restless after that point and booed as soon as they heard the answer:

(highlight just in case you want to challenge yourself!)

[color=\"#FFFFFF\"]Seesaw[/color]

Is this episode believed erased?

Anthony
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Post by: BillCullen1 on December 20, 2007, 04:48:01 PM
[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' post=\'171476\' date=\'Dec 7 2007, 09:12 AM\']
Quote
After I made this post, I do recall $995 X 50 happening and that there was a Super Jackpot riddle in the game (I only saw in the original only one Target match--and the Expert couldn't find the Jackpot riddle to complete the play--but I didn't see every show and it was over 30 years ago). I don't remember what the riddle was. I suspect they still had to keep the sharp objects away from Bob Stewart. :)

While I never saw the episode in question (sad to say that I wasn't born yet!), I do recall Geoff telling the story of that riddle to Da Perf, and it was, "I'm present tense and past tense..."  He said that the contestant got it wrong, and he could hear Stewart yell from offstage, "SOUND THE BUZZER!"  He also said that, yes; the crowd became a little restless after that point and booed as soon as they heard the answer:

(highlight just in case you want to challenge yourself!)

[color=\"#FFFFFF\"]Seesaw[/color]

Is this episode believed erased?

Anthony
[/quote]

For the amount of money involved, what were you expecting them to ask?
Who's buried in Grant's Tomb?
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on December 20, 2007, 05:41:52 PM
Well, there's tricky, and then there's unfair. Was "I'm present tense and past tense" really the entirety of the riddle?
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Post by: clemon79 on December 20, 2007, 06:19:57 PM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'172616\' date=\'Dec 20 2007, 02:41 PM\']
Well, there's tricky, and then there's unfair. Was "I'm present tense and past tense" really the entirety of the riddle?
[/quote]
For a Super Jackpot? Why shouldn't it be? Admittedly, I just figured out why it was what it was just now, but for $20K or so in 1970's dollars, I think it's reasonable.
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on December 20, 2007, 09:37:49 PM
To get in five seconds? Even as a long shot?

If you say so.
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Post by: clemon79 on December 20, 2007, 09:41:49 PM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'172647\' date=\'Dec 20 2007, 06:37 PM\']
To get in five seconds? Even as a long shot?

If you say so.
[/quote]
I could be wrong. I suppose you do have a point...maybe if it was something like "I'm the playground toy that is present tense and past tense. What am I?"
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on December 20, 2007, 11:09:02 PM
Yeah, see, that would be fine by me, because it narrows things down enough that almost no one would hear the answer and scoff.
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Post by: Mr. Armadillo on December 21, 2007, 08:51:26 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'172649\' date=\'Dec 20 2007, 08:41 PM\']
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'172647\' date=\'Dec 20 2007, 06:37 PM\']
To get in five seconds? Even as a long shot?

If you say so.
[/quote]
I could be wrong. I suppose you do have a point...maybe if it was something like "I'm the playground toy that is present tense and past tense. What am I?"
[/quote]
That's a little too far in the opposite direction...maybe "I'm a form of child's play, in both present tense and past tense?"  

/Of course, why am I even getting involved in this?
//It's not like it's relevant to, oh, anything.