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Title: O'Hurley Tells the Truth
Post by: The Pyramids on June 12, 2007, 08:33:33 AM
Much better news than Richard Karn 'Feud' (now on three times a day) - O'Hurley 'TTTT' is coming to GSN weeknights at 9:30 July 18th per tvgameshows.net.
Title: O'Hurley Tells the Truth
Post by: tvmitch on June 12, 2007, 09:10:01 AM
More accurately, Steve-o says that the show will air Wednesdays-Saturdays at 10:30pm E/P.
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Post by: tpirfan28 on June 12, 2007, 09:25:53 AM
Welcome news.

Proves that GSN still does care (albeit a little bit) about the classics.
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Post by: Don Howard on June 12, 2007, 09:27:00 AM
This I can live with. In spite of some of the oddball panelists, it was still a show I enjoyed very much.
For those of you with episode guides, approximately when can we expect the Kitty Carlisle appearance?
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Post by: tvwxman on June 12, 2007, 10:08:06 AM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'154951\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 09:25 AM\']
Proves that GSN still does care (albeit a little bit) about the classics.
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What gives you that idea? The fact that they're airing a version of the show inferior to all of it's other prior incarnations?

What's next? Patrick Wayne Tic Tac Dough and Match Game 98? Cause they care about the classics?
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Post by: Johnissoevil on June 12, 2007, 10:42:39 AM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'154956\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 10:08 AM\']
What's next? Patrick Wayne Tic Tac Dough?
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The dragon and the slayer won't clear their appearances.  They fear how much worse their raps would sound sped up. *g*
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Post by: clemon79 on June 12, 2007, 11:32:16 AM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'154956\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 07:08 AM\']
What gives you that idea? The fact that they're airing a version of the show inferior to all of it's other prior incarnations?
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Spoken like a man who never say TTTT'80 with Robin Ward. :)
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Post by: catnap1972 on June 12, 2007, 11:51:42 AM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'154956\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 10:08 AM\']

What's next? Match Game 98?
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That or Bullard Sharks (shivers)
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Post by: MikeK on June 12, 2007, 12:00:17 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'154952\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 09:27 AM\']This I can live with. In spite of some of the oddball panelists, it was still a show I enjoyed very much.
For those of you with episode guides, approximately when can we expect the Kitty Carlisle appearance?[/quote]
Kitty's ep. aired in first run during November 2000 sweeps.  Who knows what order GSN will air these eps., if any.

Don, if you miss it or if GSN skips it, I'll try my darndest to get you a copy of it the next time you're up here.
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Post by: snowpeck on June 12, 2007, 03:29:47 PM
Well at least it's an actual game show and not a reality or casino show.


Greg
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Post by: tvwxman on June 12, 2007, 04:18:34 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'154960\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 11:32 AM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'154956\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 07:08 AM\']
What gives you that idea? The fact that they're airing a version of the show inferior to all of it's other prior incarnations?
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Spoken like a man who never say TTTT'80 with Robin Ward. :)
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Actually I have, and I still prefer 80 to 2K.

The OHurley version was too sexed up to compete with daytime drivel.... How many 'Playmate' 'bared-all' 'sex-related' topics could they cover?

/Answer:2 Seasons worth.
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Post by: Johnissoevil on June 12, 2007, 04:43:02 PM
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' post=\'154964\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 11:51 AM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'154956\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 10:08 AM\']

What's next? Match Game 98?
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That or Bullard Sharks (shivers)
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With the way they've now picked up 2 Pearson/Fremantle era Goodson revivals, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually do this.
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Post by: Allstar87 on June 12, 2007, 10:51:46 PM
[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'154998\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 04:43 PM\']
With the way they've now picked up 2 Pearson/Fremantle era Goodson revivals, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually do this.
[/quote]

Me neither. At least they picked up the best one, in my opinion; the gameplay of TTTT '00 was very true to the original version, without any screwy format changes like on Match Game '98 & Card Sharks '01.
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Post by: BrandonFG on June 12, 2007, 11:03:17 PM
[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'155031\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 10:51 PM\']
[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' post=\'154998\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 04:43 PM\']
With the way they've now picked up 2 Pearson/Fremantle era Goodson revivals, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually do this.
[/quote]

Me neither. At least they picked up the best one, in my opinion; the gameplay of TTTT '00 was very true to the original version, without any screwy format changes like on Match Game '98 & Card Sharks '01.
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The show was good its first season. The second season, it began to look like a talk show. All I remember was constant hootin' and hollerin', a lot of standing ovations, and some other talk show elements...
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Post by: SamJ93 on June 13, 2007, 02:42:02 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'155033\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 11:03 PM\']
The second season, it began to look like a talk show. All I remember was constant hootin' and hollerin', a lot of standing ovations, and some other talk show elements...
[/quote]

That's not entirely inappropriate to the show, though, IMHO...TTTT and all of Goodson's panel shows deemphasized the game aspects in favor of chatting with the panel celebs and learning about the contestants' unusual occupations/secrets/stories, not unlike things that occur on a talk show.

That said, of course, all those shows were developed back when TV at least had some modicum of dignity about it...
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Post by: BrandonFG on June 13, 2007, 02:46:48 PM
[quote name=\'SamJ93\' post=\'155081\' date=\'Jun 13 2007, 02:42 PM\']
That said, of course, all those shows were developed back when TV at least had some modicum of dignity about it...
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My point exactly. The WML/TTTT/IGAS from the 50s through the 70s (honestly early-90s) were light-hearted talk shows with a game show thrown for good measure (I think I said that right).

The second season of this TTTT was "The Jerry Springer Show" with talk show elements, just no fighting.
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Post by: Neumms on June 13, 2007, 07:15:25 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'155082\' date=\'Jun 13 2007, 01:46 PM\']
The second season of this TTTT was "The Jerry Springer Show" with talk show elements, just no fighting.
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Which is the part that blew. I mean, who didn't want to see somebody finally take a swing at Kitty Carlisle after all those years.

Hey, it's something GSN hasn't shown before, so it's a good thing. Between that, Camouflage, Without Prejudice and Grand Slam, they have a pretty good slate going.
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Post by: ChuckNet on June 13, 2007, 08:57:54 PM
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The show was good its first season. The second season, it began to look like a talk show. All I remember was constant hootin' and hollerin', a lot of standing ovations, and some other talk show elements...

Yeah, that was downright annoying...also, the constant background music and rotating "Who is the real...?" graphics during the questioning didn't help either. Plus, who thought it'd be a good idea to have a ventriloquist (Jeff Dunham) on the panel?

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Post by: SRIV94 on June 14, 2007, 11:13:20 AM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' post=\'155113\' date=\'Jun 13 2007, 07:57 PM\']
Plus, who thought it'd be a good idea to have a ventriloquist (Jeff Dunham) on the panel?
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A dummy.
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Post by: Scrabbleship on June 14, 2007, 11:58:09 AM
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'154965\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 12:00 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'154952\' date=\'Jun 12 2007, 09:27 AM\']This I can live with. In spite of some of the oddball panelists, it was still a show I enjoyed very much.
For those of you with episode guides, approximately when can we expect the Kitty Carlisle appearance?[/quote]
Kitty's ep. aired in first run during November 2000 sweeps.
[/quote]

I thought it aired in mid-October 2000. I remember seeing it that October on a single-run station.
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Post by: MikeK on June 14, 2007, 12:11:29 PM
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'155151\' date=\'Jun 14 2007, 11:58 AM\']I thought it aired in mid-October 2000. I remember seeing it that October on a single-run station.[/quote]
A quick search of that old place shows it first aired on October 5, 2000.  I stand sit corrected.  I didn't recall it airing three weeks into the show's run...
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Post by: The Pyramids on July 21, 2007, 08:31:08 AM
I like what I see again. The show has a great host, set and treats the formatt with respect. Its odd how much better its stands against 'Card Sharks' and Anderson 'Feud' that it ran concurently with.
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Post by: DrBear on July 22, 2007, 07:09:59 AM
Well, there are fourth-grade productions of "Rent" that have better production than that Card Sharks, but that's beside the point.
Hurley wasn't the problem, the format was never the problem. They even had the sense to bring back the audience vote from the 60s version, and one wonders who in production had that good a memory. It's that the panelists - and to a point, the contestant bookers - wanted to turn the show into Jerry Springer Lite.
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Post by: uncamark on July 23, 2007, 01:00:37 PM
[quote name=\'DrBear\' post=\'158189\' date=\'Jul 22 2007, 06:09 AM\']
Well, there are fourth-grade productions of "Rent" that have better production than that Card Sharks, but that's beside the point.
Hurley wasn't the problem, the format was never the problem. They even had the sense to bring back the audience vote from the 60s version, and one wonders who in production had that good a memory. It's that the panelists - and to a point, the contestant bookers - wanted to turn the show into Jerry Springer Lite.
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Not to mention that whole "My name is Heather Schmeter and I like getting whipped" bit (followed by the cued/sweetened "OW!"s and "WHOO!"s).  Not to mention having music under the questioning and the lower third with the Central Character's distinction staying up through the game.
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Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on July 24, 2007, 06:09:28 PM
My biggest gripe with O'Hurley TTTT wasn't the panelists, nor the gratuitous T&A.  My issue of contention was that they were simply making sloppy mistakes.  One of the few episodes I bothered to record featured a mixed-gender panel - 2 men, 1 woman.  And while reading the affidavit, doing the introduction, etc., lets slip a "she". And if my memory serves correctly this wasn't the only instance.   (It also made alarmingly evident the fact that either Burton's read was added in post-production or that absolutely no one was paying attention, as there were still plenty of incorrect votes.)

Little things like that just made the production feel sloppier than it should have been
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Post by: clemon79 on July 24, 2007, 06:40:33 PM
[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' post=\'158492\' date=\'Jul 24 2007, 03:09 PM\']
(It also made alarmingly evident the fact that either Burton's read was added in post-production or that absolutely no one was paying attention, as there were still plenty of incorrect votes.)
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Burton's read? Did they stop John from reading the affidavits at some point?
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Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on July 24, 2007, 07:01:23 PM
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Burton's read? Did they stop John from reading the affidavits at some point?

In the second season of the show, they changed the structure of the first round around a little bit - Burton would read off the affidavit, then launch into the show open and panel introduction. (John still did the read for game 2).  In the specific instance I'm citing, Burton is reading the affidavit, and mentions that the subject was once Yoko Ono's bodyguard, then refers to the subject as "she".  If the affidavit was written in the first person, then Burton messed up, and no one caught it.  If the affidavit was written in the third person in this instance - not only is the panel incredibly dense, but someone should have caught the giveaway pronoun before they even filmed the segment and replaced the 2 male impostors with two women.  And as memory serves, this happened more than once, just from memories of the second season.

I actually found the episode *I'm* specifically referring...the segment pretty much displays each of the show's flaws in succession...I'll upload it to Youtube here as soon as I can.
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Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on July 24, 2007, 08:02:59 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8zTMnXYJPA8 (http://\"http://youtube.com/watch?v=8zTMnXYJPA8\")
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Post by: Dbacksfan12 on July 25, 2007, 04:10:24 AM
Thanks for uploading the clips.  I don't remember this opening format--I don't recall if a local affiliate picked the second season up.

Regardless, the sloppiness doesn't surprise me at all, although, it was still Pearson at the time, wasn't it?
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Post by: BrandonFG on July 25, 2007, 02:13:40 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'158542\' date=\'Jul 25 2007, 04:10 AM\']
Thanks for uploading the clips.  I don't remember this opening format--I don't recall if a local affiliate picked the second season up.

Regardless, the sloppiness doesn't surprise me at all, although, it was still Pearson at the time, wasn't it?
[/quote]
In its last days, IIRC. I believe it switched to Fremantle right before its cancellation.
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Post by: WhammyPower on July 26, 2007, 12:20:34 PM
Wish I knew what a Found Raiser was....
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Post by: The Pyramids on July 26, 2007, 09:28:30 PM
I've seen how the show logically goes to a commercial break before revealing the real contestant. What other versions, if any, over the years also did this?
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Post by: TwoInchQuad on July 29, 2007, 04:35:24 PM
[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'158772\' date=\'Jul 26 2007, 06:28 PM\']
I've seen how the show logically goes to a commercial break before revealing the real contestant. What other versions, if any, over the years also did this?
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CBS daytime, for one...  during the second game.

And in the '67-'68 era after the audience vote was reinstated:  after questioning in the 2nd game, the panel voted, Bud would intro a commercial break, and after the break came the audience vote results and the reveal.

-Kevin
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Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on August 20, 2008, 03:11:32 PM
Just a bump for a quick FYI: The series final taped episode runs tomorrow; on Friday the cycle starts over with the series 1st episode from 2000.