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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: PYLW on January 02, 2007, 02:10:09 PM
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I'm thinking of setting up one of these. Voting would be the same as the process used for the greatest hosts and shows. Would there be enough interest in people voting, or are you all against it? I'd be in charge of the vote counting, and such.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'141914\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 11:10 AM\']
I'm thinking of setting up one of these. Voting would be the same as the process used for the greatest hosts and shows. Would there be enough interest in people voting, or are you all against it? I'd be in charge of the vote counting, and such.
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I'm not sure why it would be remotely interesting after about #5.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141915\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 02:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'141914\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 11:10 AM\']
I'm thinking of setting up one of these. Voting would be the same as the process used for the greatest hosts and shows. Would there be enough interest in people voting, or are you all against it? I'd be in charge of the vote counting, and such.
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I'm not sure why it would be remotely interesting after about #5.
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I might go a tick further, maybe putting the number around 8...but you're right, after that, there really is no point.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'141917\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 01:50 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141915\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 02:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'141914\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 11:10 AM\']
I'm thinking of setting up one of these. Voting would be the same as the process used for the greatest hosts and shows. Would there be enough interest in people voting, or are you all against it? I'd be in charge of the vote counting, and such.
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I'm not sure why it would be remotely interesting after about #5.
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I might go a tick further, maybe putting the number around 8...but you're right, after that, there really is no point.
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I could prolly come up with 10. But 20's way too extreme.
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Thing is, I see no reason not to do it. it certainly does no harm, and there might be some who get a kick out of it. I for one will be interested in seeing it work from the outside of the process for once.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'141923\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 03:06 PM\']
Thing is, I see no reason not to do it. it certainly does no harm, and there might be some who get a kick out of it. I for one will be interested in seeing it work from the outside of the process for once.
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Well, when you see people such as "Henry J" and Tiffany Phillips be included on a list of "greatest" announcers, perhaps people will change their minds about a list of 20. I'd be in favor of approximately eight as well.
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Sure, go for it. Set it up and I'll play. I've been hoping this would come up.
Summoning twenty names and comparing those to what the crowd brings to the countdown would be most interesting.
Will Don Pardo rank higher than Harvey? Gene Wood higher than John Harlan? Burning questions indeed.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'141923\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 01:06 PM\']
Thing is, I see no reason not to do it. it certainly does no harm, and there might be some who get a kick out of it. I for one will be interested in seeing it work from the outside of the process for once.
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Oh, yeah, there's no reason not to, absolutely. But I would bet that he gets more participation if he cut it down to 10 rather than ask people to decide whether Ernie Anastos was better than The Disembodied Voice Of Ron Maestri.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'141928\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 03:49 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'141923\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 01:06 PM\']
Thing is, I see no reason not to do it. it certainly does no harm, and there might be some who get a kick out of it. I for one will be interested in seeing it work from the outside of the process for once.
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Oh, yeah, there's no reason not to, absolutely. But I would bet that he gets more participation if he cut it down to 10 rather than ask people to decide whether Ernie Anastos was better than The Disembodied Voice Of Ron Maestri.
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Here's how I would do it. We submit a list of no more than five. Then Josh can still compile a list of as many as he wants (whether it be the top 20 or top 10 or whatever).
Wasn't Anastos the news anchor and Anderson (the Luuuuh-ve Boat) the announcer?
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'141929\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 01:59 PM\']
Wasn't Anastos the news anchor and Anderson (the Luuuuh-ve Boat) the announcer?
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Yeah, but I thought I remembered reading someplace that he announced for Break The Bank for a while.
I could also be high on crack, too.
EDIT: Upon further review....yep. High on crack. Never mind.
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I think it would be reasonable to allow the voters to list up to 10 announcers. Then, like with the hosts list, you can list all of the announcers who got more than one vote.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'141924\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 04:29 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'141923\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 03:06 PM\']
Thing is, I see no reason not to do it. it certainly does no harm, and there might be some who get a kick out of it. I for one will be interested in seeing it work from the outside of the process for once.
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Well, when you see people such as "Henry J" and Tiffany Phillips be included on a list of "greatest" announcers, perhaps people will change their minds about a list of 20. I'd be in favor of approximately eight as well.
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Echoing others, I'm for rounding it up to 10. Makes it nice and even, especially since past 15 things start to get murky.
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Yeah, I'm starting to think that 20 will be a bit much. I personally would rather not see some certain announcers on a TOP list of anything. Would ten be much better?
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I think ten would do the trick.
Count me in!
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'141927\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 05:46 PM\']
Sure, go for it. Set it up and I'll play. I've been hoping this would come up.
Summoning twenty names and comparing those to what the crowd brings to the countdown would be most interesting.
Will Don Pardo rank higher than Harvey? Gene Wood higher than John Harlan? Burning questions indeed.
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Never mind them people, the real question is: Is Edgar better than Malcolm??? THAT'S The Question!!! :-P
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Alright, we shall get started, then. I hope this gets a lot of participation.
Everyone, please e-mail me your top ten announcers:
FamicomJL@FamicomWorld.com
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Ernie Anderson *did* do "BTB '76"--at least the syndicated version. So Chris is not on crack.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'141995\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:34 PM\'] Ernie Anderson *did* do "BTB '76"--at least the syndicated version. So Chris is not on crack. [/quote]
Wasn't he the guy who did ABC show promos for a while? I remember hearing him announce America's Funniest Home Videos during Saget's run as host.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'141999\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 01:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'141995\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:34 PM\'] Ernie Anderson *did* do "BTB '76"--at least the syndicated version. So Chris is not on crack. [/quote]
Wasn't he the guy who did ABC show promos for a while? I remember hearing him announce America's Funniest Home Videos during Saget's run as host.
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Did he ever. He was the voice of ABC--and I mean *the* voice of ABC--for a long, long time.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'142001\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'141999\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 01:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'141995\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:34 PM\'] Ernie Anderson *did* do "BTB '76"--at least the syndicated version. So Chris is not on crack. [/quote]
Wasn't he the guy who did ABC show promos for a while? I remember hearing him announce America's Funniest Home Videos during Saget's run as host.
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Did he ever. He was the voice of ABC--and I mean *the* voice of ABC--for a long, long time.
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Perhaps best-known for "The Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv Boat."
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'142001\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 03:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'141999\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 01:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'141995\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:34 PM\'] Ernie Anderson *did* do "BTB '76"--at least the syndicated version. So Chris is not on crack. [/quote]
Wasn't he the guy who did ABC show promos for a while? I remember hearing him announce America's Funniest Home Videos during Saget's run as host.
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Did he ever. He was the voice of ABC--and I mean *the* voice of ABC--for a long, long time.
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If any here have the first two volumes of Animaniacs on DVD, Ernie Anderson narrates a couple of Bible-based episodes, and even works in a small reference to his ABC work in each one.
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[quote name=\'Tony\' post=\'142005\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 03:14 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'142001\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 03:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'141999\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 01:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'141995\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:34 PM\'] Ernie Anderson *did* do "BTB '76"--at least the syndicated version. So Chris is not on crack. [/quote]
Wasn't he the guy who did ABC show promos for a while? I remember hearing him announce America's Funniest Home Videos during Saget's run as host.
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Did he ever. He was the voice of ABC--and I mean *the* voice of ABC--for a long, long time.
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If any here have the first two volumes of Animaniacs on DVD, Ernie Anderson narrates a couple of Bible-based episodes, and even works in a small reference to his ABC work in each one.
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As Don Howard or anyone from the Cleveland area can tell you..Ernie was huge as Horror Show host "Ghoulardi" on WJW-TV 8 in Cleveland from 1963-66..The successor to that show."Houlihan and Big Chuck"/"Big Chuck and Little John" just celebrated 40 years at channel 8 (1966-2006).Chuck Schodowski is set to retire in June 2007..
Back to Ernie, he earlier (1961) hosted a morning movie on channel 8, doing skits with sidekick Tom (Tim) Conway just before Conway hit it big on the "Steve Allen Show" and "McHale's Navy"
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'141995\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 01:34 PM\']
Ernie Anderson *did* do "BTB '76"--at least the syndicated version. So Chris is not on crack.
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Yes, but Chris confused Ernie Anderson with Ernie Anastos, who to the best of my recollection did not announce BTB76.
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Ernie Anderson *did* do "BTB '76"--at least the syndicated version. So Chris is not on crack.
I'm pretty sure he did the daytime version as well - at least later in the run. Too bad we don't have video evidence...
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'142003\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:02 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'142001\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'141999\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 01:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'141995\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:34 PM\'] Ernie Anderson *did* do "BTB '76"--at least the syndicated version. So Chris is not on crack. [/quote]
Wasn't he the guy who did ABC show promos for a while? I remember hearing him announce America's Funniest Home Videos during Saget's run as host.
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Did he ever. He was the voice of ABC--and I mean *the* voice of ABC--for a long, long time.
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Perhaps best-known for "The Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv Boat."
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What am I--chopped liver?
Ahem.
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'141929\' date=\'Jan 2 2007, 03:59 PM\']
Wasn't Anastos the news anchor and Anderson (the Luuuuh-ve Boat) the announcer?
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OK, so I had fewer U's.
:-)
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'142012\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 01:04 PM\']
Yes, but Chris confused Ernie Anderson with Ernie Anastos, who to the best of my recollection did not announce BTB76.
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Correct. So my status of being On Crack is preserved.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'142014\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 04:06 PM\']
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'142003\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:02 PM\']
Perhaps best-known for "The Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv Boat."
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What am I--chopped liver?
Ahem.
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Oh my! Mea culpa. :)
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Anderson was also your "dummy [or whacko] announcer" for The Carol Burnett Show.
/Burnett owned Studio 33 before Barker did.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'141993\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 02:24 PM\']
Alright, we shall get started, then. I hope this gets a lot of participation.
Everyone, please e-mail me your top ten announcers:
FamicomJL@FamicomWorld.com
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I shall be happy to do so and soon.
What, please, is the deadline by which to submit our entries?
And just to be clear, are people like Bill Barber (Illinois Instant Riches) or Paul King (The Ohio Lottery Show) eligible for consideration?
P.S. on Tim's statement earlier: He was not exaggerating. "Huge" is the perfect word to describe Ernie Anderson's impact during his Cleveland days. And I'm not even from Parma (that's for you, Northern Ohioans). He and Tim Conway and the best announcer in Cleveland TV John FitzGerald made a whale of a team in that broadcasting era.
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Something that people might overlook (or even might not know) is that Todd Russell announced WDYT for a while between Bill Nimmo and Ed McMahon.
One question before voting: How do you spell Holenriech?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'142029\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 06:43 PM\']
Something that people might overlook (or even might not know) is that Todd Russell announced WDYT for a while between Bill Nimmo and Ed McMahon.
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I'll be resubmitting then. Thank you, Jimmy.
That'll knock Ed Reimers off of my list.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'142025\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 07:09 PM\']
"Huge" is the perfect word to describe Ernie Anderson's impact during his Cleveland days. And I'm not even from Parma (that's for you, Northern Ohioans). He and Tim Conway and the best announcer in Cleveland TV John FitzGerald made a whale of a team in that broadcasting era.
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Don't forget that Phil McLean also had a big set of pipes back in the day -- made Ernie sound like Mickey Mouse.
And yes I'm part Polish, I have lived in Parma 2 different times in my life and I've got the white socks and the Pink Flamingo in the yard to prove it -- though I never shelled out the extra money to get one of them colored crystal balls nor the statue of Mary for the front yard.
And for those who lived in Middleburg Hts. or North Royalton in the 60s & 70s, you had to have a lawn jockey along the driveway to be cool!
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'142031\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 07:09 PM\']
I have lived in Parma 2 different times in my life and I've got the white socks and the Pink Flamingo in the yard to prove it [/quote]
Did you ever invite Paul Wilcox over to play polkas during a lawn-sprinkling party?
In the Slovak area of Lakewood, those were the living end.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'142029\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 05:43 PM\']
One question before voting: How do you spell Holenriech?
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Well, I can say that the "I before E" rule don't apply here.....
I don't blame you for picking him. His jolly voice really fit well on Wood BTC, but as for Mad Dash........wow.
And if we're counting Canadian-based announcers, I'll throw Dean "Talkabout" Hill into the ring.
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Yeah...forgot about that deadline, sorry. The deadline for voting is January 20th.
Do tell me if that is too early or too late. I think seventeen days is adequate enough to get your ballots ready. :)
Already have gotten quite a few entries, with even someone sending me a list of twenty.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'142030\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 04:08 PM\']
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'142029\' date=\'Jan 3 2007, 06:43 PM\']
Something that people might overlook (or even might not know) is that Todd Russell announced WDYT for a while between Bill Nimmo and Ed McMahon.
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I'll be resubmitting then. Thank you, Jimmy.
That'll knock Ed Reimers off of my list.
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Thanks for reminding me to vote for Bill Nimmo. And don't forget to vote for Bill McCord and Ralph Paul. Or Bern Bennett.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'142112\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 05:10 AM\']
Thanks for reminding me to vote for Bill Nimmo. And don't forget to vote for Bill McCord and Ralph Paul. Or Bern Bennett.
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Can we vote for Fred Saxon? PLEEEEZE?
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'142114\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 05:28 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'142112\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 05:10 AM\']
Thanks for reminding me to vote for Bill Nimmo. And don't forget to vote for Bill McCord and Ralph Paul. Or Bern Bennett.
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Can we vote for Fred Saxon? PLEEEEZE?
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If this isn't a cry to open up the balloting for the top twenty, I don't know what is.
I loved Fred. He was the best. I was deeply saddened when he died, if he's dead.
Who is he?
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One word: Olmec.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'142146\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 02:46 PM\']
[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'142114\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 05:28 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'142112\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 05:10 AM\']
Thanks for reminding me to vote for Bill Nimmo. And don't forget to vote for Bill McCord and Ralph Paul. Or Bern Bennett.
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Can we vote for Fred Saxon? PLEEEEZE?
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If this isn't a cry to open up the balloting for the top twenty, I don't know what is.
I loved Fred. He was the best. I was deeply saddened when he died, if he's dead.
Who is he?
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I think he's still alive, but he worked on a Goodson show and said the immortal words..."Bill Cullen." One of the few guys to make the jump from CNN to Goodson.
This should be an interesting poll because it's all about the quality of the performer rather than the quality of the show. I'd be willing to bet that the announcer for what is universally regarded as the "worst game show ever" will be our choice for the best announcer ever.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'142153\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 04:08 PM\']
I'd be willing to bet that the announcer for what is universally regarded as the "worst game show ever" will be our choice for the best announcer ever.
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Well it wasn't his fault it tanked. He may have been the best part of the show and his intro to show #2 is very memorable.
That is, if we're talking about the same show/person.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'142153\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 03:08 PM\']I'd be willing to bet that the announcer for what is universally regarded as the "worst game show ever" will be our choice for the best announcer ever.
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While the show of which you speak is historically notable for its brief run, I'm not sure anybody except The Great One himself would regard it as the worst game show ever. I'd be willing to bet that in the Invision group of that era, several of us would have pointed to the show's positive qualities (especially those of us who are predisposed to like panel shows), just as some of us have done for The Rich List.
You're right about the announcer, although he wasn't my #1 choice.
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While the show of which you speak is historically notable for its brief run, I'm not sure anybody except The Great One himself would regard it as the worst game show ever. I'd be willing to bet that in the Invision group of that era, several of us would have pointed to the show's positive qualities (especially those of us who are predisposed to like panel shows), just as some of us have done for The Rich List.
I think I know what our next poll should be - The Worst Game Shows of All Time. While we've been focusing a lot on the best (which is always a good thing to do), we've never really focused too much on the worst. It might be interesting to see what we as a group come up with.
Just a thought :)
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Even if you mean it entirely tongue in cheek Ian, I just want it out there I think it's a bad idea. Not that my opinion alone matters in the grand scheme of things, but you may have noticed some weird omissions from ballots in the Best GS poll simply because people never saw such-and-such a show. I assume we'd get a list declaring certain shows bad only because the community gave them such a bad rap over the years. Given how much better TTD 90 looked than it was given any credit for here when I caught it at POC (still not saying much), and how utterly bad "Boggle" was when I got it in a trade...
Top 10 announcers by comparison looks terrific, but still not a grand idea.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'142210\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 09:18 PM\']
Not that my opinion alone matters in the grand scheme of things, but you may have noticed some weird omissions from ballots in the Best GS poll simply because people never saw such-and-such a show.[/quote]
Would you rather have a show not voted on because they'd never seen it, or have someone say "I've never seen Blockbusters, but tons of game show pages say it is a good show. I rate it #5!
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'142213\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 07:24 PM\']
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'142210\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 09:18 PM\']
Not that my opinion alone matters in the grand scheme of things, but you may have noticed some weird omissions from ballots in the Best GS poll simply because people never saw such-and-such a show.[/quote]
Would you rather have a show not voted on because they'd never seen it, or have someone say "I've never seen Blockbusters, but tons of game show pages say it is a good show. I rate it #5!
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I'm not sure why it's really all that big of a deal.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'142213\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 07:24 PM\']
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'142210\' date=\'Jan 4 2007, 09:18 PM\']
Not that my opinion alone matters in the grand scheme of things, but you may have noticed some weird omissions from ballots in the Best GS poll simply because people never saw such-and-such a show.[/quote]
Would you rather have a show not voted on because they'd never seen it, or have someone say "I've never seen Blockbusters, but tons of game show pages say it is a good show. I rate it #5![/quote]That's the thing: whenever you have a vote like this, there's always the possibility of the dummy contingent stuffing the box. (JD Roth as part of the twenty best hosts? In what world?) Best to just let it be.
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Hey guys,
Looks like we have a problem with the voting process. The FamicomWorld.com e-mail is having problems re-directing some e-mails people have sent. I have recieved the following people's votes:
JayLewis
dixonhayes
D.C. Lundberg
James Owen
Christopher Bligh
Don Howard
Seth
SRIV94
mst3kfan
If you sent me an e-mail and you're not on the above list, you may send your list again to FamicomFan@Gmail.com instead. The deadline will now be January 23rd.
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Looks like we're almost a week away. So far I'm dissappointed in how many votes I've gotten, but I pretty much expected that that would happen. Oh well. Remember to send in your votes, if you haven't!
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Just a reminder that TONIGHT is the deadline, everyone. :)
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The Results
We actually had 30 announcers nominated...Today I'll show 30-26, and tommorow 25-21.
30. TIE: Jack Narz (Beat The Clock) and John Moschitta, Jr. (Hollywood Squares)- 1
Was that the only announcing job Jack ever had?
29. Jeffrey Tambor (Hollywood Squares)- 2
28. Chet Gould (What's My Line?, Dream House)- 5
27. The Fun House Announcers- 6
26. Joe Conklin (Finders Keepers)- 7
I personally always liked him on that show, myself...
Thoughts so far?
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'144334\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 10:55 AM\']
30. TIE: Jack Narz (Beat The Clock) and John Moschitta, Jr. (Hollywood Squares)- 1
Was that the only announcing job Jack ever had?
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I could have sworn I heard Jack sub-announce for one or two G-T shows in the late 70s/early 80's. Card Sharks and Tattletales is what sticks in my head.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'144335\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 09:12 AM\']
[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'144334\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 10:55 AM\']
30. TIE: Jack Narz (Beat The Clock) and John Moschitta, Jr. (Hollywood Squares)- 1
Was that the only announcing job Jack ever had?
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I could have sworn I heard Jack sub-announce for one or two G-T shows in the late 70s/early 80's. Card Sharks and Tattletales is what sticks in my head.
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Didn't he do a week or two of CLASSIC CONCENTRATION near the end of its first-run (filling in for an ailing Gene Wood)? Or was that Art James?
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'144334\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 08:55 AM\']
The Results
We actually had 30 announcers nominated...Today I'll show 30-26, and tommorow 25-21.
30. TIE: Jack Narz (Beat The Clock) and John Moschitta, Jr. (Hollywood Squares)- 1
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Wouldn't that make 31? :)
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'144339\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 10:43 AM\'] [quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'144334\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 08:55 AM\']
The Results
We actually had 30 announcers nominated...Today I'll show 30-26, and tommorow 25-21.
30. TIE: Jack Narz (Beat The Clock) and John Moschitta, Jr. (Hollywood Squares)- 1
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Wouldn't that make 31? :) [/quote]
I thought about doing it like that, but then it wouldn't be a nice round number like 30...Yeah, I'm that lazy, my apologies...
And on the Concentration question, I'm pretty sure it was Art James, since I THINK the weeks he subbed were at the same time he subbed weeks for Family Feud. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'144334\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 06:55 AM\']
Thoughts so far?
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Two:
1) I think this speaks volumes about why the list should have been cut off at 20 (and I suspect we're going to find that even that was too high), and
2) Someone voted "the Fun House announcers" as the greatest ever when they COULDN'T EVEN REMEMBER THEIR NAMES?
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'144334\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 09:55 AM\']
TIE: Jack Narz (Beat The Clock) and John Moschitta, Jr. (Hollywood Squares)- 1
Was that the only announcing job Jack ever had?
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In addition to the Card Sharks guest stint listed above, Jack Narz also announced on the Bill Cullen-hosted game Place The Face. And, yes, it was Art James who subbed for Gene Wood during the early summer months of 1991 on Classic Concentration. Art was even shown very briefly on camera during a long credit roll.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'144345\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 11:22 AM\'] [quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'144334\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 06:55 AM\']
Thoughts so far?
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1) I think this speaks volumes about why the list should have been cut off at 20 (and I suspect we're going to find that even that was too high), and
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That's why I'm sending out numbers 30-21 right away. The others will be sent out two at a time every few days. It's really only a list of 20, but I had some others that made it a list of 30. I thought it'd be interesting to see who was left out of the 20 (Some weird ones were left out...as you'll see tommorow.).
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Didn't he do a week or two of CLASSIC CONCENTRATION near the end of its first-run (filling in for an ailing Gene Wood)? Or was that Art James?
Art also subbed for a few weeks on Tic Tac Dough. I remember Wink thanking him a few times during the course of the shows he did.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'144373\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 04:05 PM\']
Didn't he do a week or two of CLASSIC CONCENTRATION near the end of its first-run (filling in for an ailing Gene Wood)? Or was that Art James?
Art also subbed for a few weeks on Tic Tac Dough. I remember Wink thanking him a few times during the course of the shows he did.
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He did a week on the purgatorial Patrick Wayne-hosted run, too.
Plus, he was on VO duty for a bit on Face The Music.
From the way Jack Barry made it sound at the top of the fourth syndicated season of The Joker's Wild, Art wasn't meant to be a fill-in. It seemed like Art had the job. Jack "welcomed that new voice" and said that Art would "be with us for a long time". By the time the Million Dollar Tournament where the national champion was crowned came along, Jay Stewart had returned and Art was gone from there for good.
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Something is wrong, Chris.
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'144345\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 08:22 AM\']
Someone voted "the Fun House announcers" as the greatest ever when they COULDN'T EVEN REMEMBER THEIR NAMES?
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There. That's better.
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[quote name=\'HairMetalLives\' post=\'144389\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 04:35 PM\']
There. That's better.
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I was giving the voter the benefit of the doubt and the right to their own opinion. But, really, find out WHO THE HELL THEY ARE first, ya know?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'144392\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 04:40 PM\']
[quote name=\'HairMetalLives\' post=\'144389\' date=\'Jan 24 2007, 04:35 PM\']
There. That's better.
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I was giving the voter the benefit of the doubt and the right to their own opinion. But, really, find out WHO THE HELL THEY ARE first, ya know?
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You're right that everyone has a right to their opinion, I guess I should have given more befefid of the doubt, so for that I do appologise. But they still gave one vote to a "they."
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25. TIE: Rich Fields (TPiR) and Harry Stevens (Finders Keepers)- 8
Yes, The current announcer of The Price is Right is tied with the guy who announced on Toffler's Finders Keepers...
24. Shadoe Stevens (The Hollywood Squares)- 9
23. TIE: Dan Daniel (The Big Showdown) and Bill Armstrong (Celebrity Sweepstakes, Liar's Club)-11
22. TIE: Dick Tufeld (Celebrity Sweepstakes) and Bern Bennett (Beat The Clock, To Tell The Truth)- 12
21. George Fenneman (You Bet Your Life)- 13
To me, one of the bigger surprises.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'144440\' date=\'Jan 25 2007, 10:45 AM\']
21. George Fenneman (You Bet Your Life)- 13
To me, one of the bigger surprises.[/quote]
I assume you mean you're surprised he didn't rank higher. Have to be honest, he didn't even occur to me when I thought of "announcers". Of course that's what he was, but my brain has him in the "sidekick" role.
Show me some decent names above him, and I'll be even less surprised he didn't crack the top 20.
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24. Shadoe Stevens (The Hollywood Squares)- 9
Not really relevant to anything, but the instant I saw that line, iTunes' shuffle setting started playing the 1986 HS theme...
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[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' post=\'144573\' date=\'Jan 26 2007, 04:38 AM\']
24. Shadoe Stevens (The Hollywood Squares)- 9
Not really relevant to anything, but the instant I saw that line, iTunes' shuffle setting started playing the 1986 HS theme...
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Irony or coincidence?
/Bet now!
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By the way, why did you make a Bed, Bath and Beyond run following that moment from The Office? I may be the only one in the forum who doesn't get that.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'144651\' date=\'Jan 26 2007, 03:04 PM\']
By the way, why did you make a Bed, Bath and Beyond run following that moment from The Office? I may be the only one in the forum who doesn't get that.
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Because he saw a game show reference on a mainstream TV show, and therefore needed TWO TOWELS...
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'144651\' date=\'Jan 26 2007, 06:04 PM\']
By the way, why did you make a Bed, Bath and Beyond run following that moment from The Office? I may be the only one in the forum who doesn't get that.
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The BBB thing is a forum inside joke referring to needing towels anytime you see something on the forum that is uhhhh, highly satisfying (use your own imagination). The quote from "The Office" refers to posting every single game show reference, no matter how big or small.
I'm sure you of all folks, know what game the "Circle gets the square" quote is from. ;-)
/Two more reasons "The Office" sends me to BBB:
//Jenna Fischer...mmm
///Rashida Jones...mmmmm
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Was that the only announcing job Jack ever had?
Certainly not outside of game shows. Jack Narz performed various announcing duties at the station which is now my employer, channel 13 in Los Angeles. He was the announcer on the Don Fedderson production "Life with Elizabeth" starring a young lass named Betty White.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'144710\' date=\'Jan 27 2007, 02:00 PM\']
Was that the only announcing job Jack ever had?
He was the announcer on the Don Fedderson production "Life with Elizabeth" starring a young lass named Betty White.
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I have a discount-rack DVD of that series (inexplicably labelled as the 1977 "Betty White Show") from its national syndication days and Narz is in that too. In fact he introduces each segment on camera. The three episodes on the disc, I believe, are from 1952-53.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'144713\' date=\'Jan 27 2007, 01:39 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'144710\' date=\'Jan 27 2007, 02:00 PM\']
Was that the only announcing job Jack ever had?
He was the announcer on the Don Fedderson production "Life with Elizabeth" starring a young lass named Betty White.
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I have a discount-rack DVD of that series (inexplicably labelled as the 1977 "Betty White Show") from its national syndication days and Narz is in that too. In fact he introduces each segment on camera. The three episodes on the disc, I believe, are from 1952-53.
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I have a VHS tape from several years ago of Betty White's "Date with the Angels" from 1957-58..The Christmas episode..Tom Kennedy is the announcer. To tell you how long ago I got this tape..I believe I paid $4.99 for it (One episode) Today similar vintage shows up to 10 or more on a DVD can be had for $1.00. The show is very similar to "Life with Elizabeth" except it's a half hour sitcom (not 3 segments)
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'144710\' date=\'Jan 27 2007, 01:00 PM\']
Was that the only announcing job Jack ever had?
Certainly not outside of game shows. Jack Narz performed various announcing duties at the station which is now my employer, channel 13 in Los Angeles. He was the announcer on the Don Fedderson production "Life with Elizabeth" starring a young lass named Betty White.
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And who could forget that Jack Narz was also the off camera voice of "Space Patrol"? He was all over that show.
/Say, how many votes did That Guy Who Announced "Figure It Out" get, anyway?
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'144724\' date=\'Jan 27 2007, 02:56 PM\']
/Say, how many votes did That Guy Who Announced "Figure It Out" get, anyway?
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The same amount Rich Jeffries and Dee Baker got, which shouldn't be too hard to figure out. :P
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'144730\' date=\'Jan 27 2007, 05:42 PM\']
[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'144724\' date=\'Jan 27 2007, 02:56 PM\']
/Say, how many votes did That Guy Who Announced "Figure It Out" get, anyway?
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The same amount Rich Jeffries and Dee Baker got, which shouldn't be too hard to figure out. :P
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And if you're still wondering how much that is, it's the same amount Christopher Kriesa got.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'144713\' date=\'Jan 27 2007, 01:39 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'144710\' date=\'Jan 27 2007, 02:00 PM\']
Was that the only announcing job Jack ever had?
He was the announcer on the Don Fedderson production "Life with Elizabeth" starring a young lass named Betty White.
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I have a discount-rack DVD of that series (inexplicably labelled as the 1977 "Betty White Show") from its national syndication days and Narz is in that too. In fact he introduces each segment on camera. The three episodes on the disc, I believe, are from 1952-53.
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I just found today probably that same DVD at a local Dollar Tree Today. It had the 70's "Betty White Show" Description on tbe cover and episodes 4, 6, and 8 of "Life With Elizabeth" inside.
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Is the Top 20 available for view in another area of this board?
Our radio station was in pledge mode for the past week and a half and perhaps I've just missed a message about it.
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My apologies, I've been super busy this week. Tonight #20 and #19 will be released.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'145131\' date=\'Feb 2 2007, 02:04 PM\']
My apologies, I've been super busy this week. Tonight #20 and #19 will be released.
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Why don't you just give us 5 or 10 at a time? I don't think (yes, I know I don't speak for everyone) that there is 'that' much interest in drawing this out that long, especially if you (shudder) have a life away from our little corner of the web....
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'145132\' date=\'Feb 2 2007, 02:12 PM\'] [quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'145131\' date=\'Feb 2 2007, 02:04 PM\']
My apologies, I've been super busy this week. Tonight #20 and #19 will be released.
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Why don't you just give us 5 or 10 at a time? I don't think (yes, I know I don't speak for everyone) that there is 'that' much interest in drawing this out that long, especially if you (shudder) have a life away from our little corner of the web.... [/quote]
Actually, you sort of have a point...The interest comes in the top ten. I'll show 20-16 tonight and 15-11 on Sunday. After THAT it'll be two at a time.
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'145159\' date=\'Feb 2 2007, 09:33 PM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'145132\' date=\'Feb 2 2007, 02:12 PM\'] [quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'145131\' date=\'Feb 2 2007, 02:04 PM\']
My apologies, I've been super busy this week. Tonight #20 and #19 will be released.
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Why don't you just give us 5 or 10 at a time? I don't think (yes, I know I don't speak for everyone) that there is 'that' much interest in drawing this out that long, especially if you (shudder) have a life away from our little corner of the web.... [/quote]
Actually, you sort of have a point...The interest comes in the top ten. I'll show 20-16 tonight and 15-11 on Sunday. After THAT it'll be two at a time.
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I still believe that's drawing it out unnecessarily.
Might I suggest 20-11 first, then the top 10 from 10-6, then moving at your own pace for 5-1?
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20. Ernie Anderson (Break The Bank)- 14
19. Burton Richardson (To Tell The Truth, Family Feud)- 20
18. John "Harvey" (Double Dare, History I.Q.)- 28
17. Bill Wendell (To Tell The Truth, Sale of the Century)- 32
16. Bob Clayton (Concentration, Various Pyramid's)- 41
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15. Alan Kalter (To Tell The Truth, The $128,000 Question)- 49
14. Charlie Tuna (Scrabble, The New Battlestars)- 59
13. Don Morrow (Now You See It, Sale of the Century)- 60
12. Bob Hilton (Blockbusters, any show that needed a sub announcer...)- 61
11. John Harlan (Password, You Don't Say)- 89
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10. Jack Clark- 90 (Tattletales, Various Subbing shows)
9. Kenny Williams- 98 (The Hollywood Squares, High Rollers)
8. Randy West- 99 (Hollywood Showdown, Supermarket Sweep, TPiR subbing)
7. Jay Stewart- 143 (Let's Make a Deal, Tic Tac Dough)
6. Johnny Jacobs- 171 (Anything done by Chuck Barris, The Joker's Wild)
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Either there's a tie near the top or a huge name got left off. There are five slots and six very well-known announcers left, and while that's not the way ties are normally ranked, I see that's how it was done at the bottom of the list.
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Yeah, I did it the way I did another list a long time ago...My apologies, next time I'll do it in a way that is less confusing. :)
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[quote name=\'PYLW\' post=\'145736\' date=\'Feb 9 2007, 02:46 PM\']
Yeah, I did it the way I did another list a long time ago...My apologies, next time I'll do it in a way that is less confusing. :)
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Next time? Sorry, kid, but I don't even think this was worth it the first time.
There's just too much of a voting discrepancy here, especially with (IMHO) some of the younger kids who (it appears) voted for some without an appreciation for veteran announcers. You gonna tell me that Rod Roddy was better than Kenny Williams or Bob Clayton? And as much as I respect Randy, I'd like to hear his opinions on a top 10 (besides Johnny. We all know where Olsen had better end up), and more importantly, if he thinks he is better now than industry vets like Hilton, Clark and Kalter.
My two cents.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'145744\' date=\'Feb 9 2007, 12:59 PM\']
... And as much as I respect Randy, I'd like to hear his opinions on a top 10 (besides Johnny. We all know where Olsen had better end up), and more importantly, if he thinks he is better now than industry vets like Hilton, Clark and Kalter.[/quote]
I'm honored and humbled to be listed among my childhood idols and respected friends. Just looking at the names mentioned in these most recent posts fills me with thoughts and memories.
Bob Hilton proved to be a friend when he readily agreed to travel back to LA to fill-in for me on some dates when I was double booked. Jack Clark was one of the kindest men I've ever met. Jay Stewart taught me so much during the time he was my agent, in what turned out to be his final days. Rod made me laugh a million times with his wickedly sharp sense of humor since we first met in the 1970s... so many of these names have special meaning for me.
Other than giving top honors to Johnny Olson for his exemplary work and for a lifetime of on-the-air and off-air professionalism, it's impossible for me to numerically rank these guys. The work is so subjective. Is Picasso "better" than Rembrandt? Is Mozart "better" than Bach? On a more contemorary timeline, what about comparisons among favorite sports figures or favorite actors?
Is Toni Braxton "better" than Dinah Washington, simply because the memory of Dinah's work has faded with time, or is completely unknown to younger ears? Was Anna Nichole Smith "better" than Jayne Mansfield at what they both did? Should younger opinions be discounted simply because they don't share the same perspective of time as other opinions? As such, is George W. Bush "better" than FDR? OK, that one's too easy!
I remember responding to folks referring to the CBS poll for TPiR announcers with a comment about ranking ice cream flavors. One man's Rocky Road is another's Tutti Fruitti. When you're dealing with people beyond a certain minimum level of expertise, the criteria for judgement is far too subjective. Did some voters subconsciously give me extra points because I had the chance to meet them or because I responded to an e-mail when they never had a similar opportunity to have contact with an announcer from another time or the other coast?
Bottom line, I suggest we interpret this thread as it was most likely intended - a chance to continue informal dialogue among game show fans. Personally, I'm happy to see the respect given to the announcers... it's a job that is sometimes thankless and somewhat in the shadows.
Thanks for placing me in such good company. I'm thrilled to think that my contributions have meant something to a few fans, and that I may have influenced a few people in the way that I was touched by the voices that fascinated me.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'145829\' date=\'Feb 10 2007, 11:18 AM\']
Did some voters subconsciously give me extra points because I had the chance to meet them or because I responded to an e-mail when they never had a similar opportunity to have contact with an announcer from another time or the other coast?
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No, we gave you extra points because Rich Fields sucks. :)
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[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'145829\' date=\'Feb 10 2007, 01:18 PM\']
Thanks for placing me in such good company. I'm thrilled to think that my contributions have meant something to a few fans, and that I may have influenced a few people in the way that I was touched by the voices that fascinated me.
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Can I change my rankings? :)
Well said, Mr. West.
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I will avoid the obvious joke about Rod Roddy and Tutti Frutti.
I'm sorry, but Jay Stewart deserves to be much higher than #7. In his work on LMAD he was not only outstanding as a comic foil, but he was a superb copy reader and had a great set of pipes with which he projected a tremendous sense of fun and excitement.
Kenny Williams deserves to be higher, too.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'145871\' date=\'Feb 11 2007, 10:00 AM\']
I'm sorry, but Jay Stewart deserves to be much higher than #7. In his work on LMAD he was not only outstanding as a comic foil, but he was a superb copy reader and had a great set of pipes with which he projected a tremendous sense of fun and excitement.
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He was very very good on Sale, too, in my opinion.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'145871\' date=\'Feb 11 2007, 01:00 PM\']I'm sorry, but Jay Stewart deserves to be much higher than #7.
Kenny Williams deserves to be higher, too.[/quote]
If either of them were ranked 23rd, behind "that guy from that show" or whoever the announcer is for the Ohio State Lottery, then I'd be more inclined to agree with you. As it is, the six names in the top five are (presumably) Olson, Wood, Pardo, Gilbert, Roddy and O'Donnell. Not exactly hacks.
I tend to agree with Randy that at the top, rankings are purely subjective. Wouldn't have surprised me if Stewart ended up a notch or two higher, but I don't think it's an egregious mistake on all our collective parts that he's not.
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the six names in the top five are (presumably) Olson, Wood, Pardo, Gilbert, Roddy and O'Donnell
I'll take Jay Stewart over all of them except Johnny Olson. Don Pardo was positively dreary on TPIR. Rod Roddy was good when he started doing TPIR but as the years went by and before his health problems, his performance was slipping. Gene Wood was an OK but not a great announcer, Johnny Gilbert is good and Charlie O'Donnell is very good.
There are several network staff announcers who did game shows back in the day but who have been forgotten by those of us old enough to have heard them the first time around, or were never known to today's audiences: Wayne Howell, Bill McCord, Bern Bennett, Dirk Fredricks ...
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'145871\' date=\'Feb 11 2007, 02:00 PM\']
I'm sorry, but Jay Stewart deserves to be much higher than #7....
Kenny Williams deserves to be higher, too.
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While I'm not sure I would begrudge any of the big six (Kenny was #6 on my own list, in fact), it should be noted that Kenny Williams and Jay Stewart both had active, on camera roles which involved some acting and comic timing (Williams on Video Village, Shenanigans and Storybook Squares, Stewart on Let's Make a Deal) and deserved to rank fairly high for sure.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'145880\' date=\'Feb 11 2007, 05:33 PM\']
whoever the announcer is for the Ohio State Lottery[/quote]
In the 1970s that was Paul King and he was mighty good.
I would be curious to know the age bracket of those who voted.
Being in my 40s, the name and voice of Don Morrow are very familiar to me.
However, since none of the shows he worked on repeat anywhere, he wouldn't get any votes from the tween, teen or 20s crowd.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'145894\' date=\'Feb 11 2007, 04:15 PM\']
I would be curious to know the age bracket of those who voted.
Being in my 40s, the name and voice of Don Morrow are very familiar to me.
However, since none of the shows he worked on repeat anywhere, he wouldn't get any votes from the tween, teen or 20s crowd.
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I'm 22 years old and put Mr. Morrow at #7.
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However, since none of the shows he worked on repeat anywhere, he wouldn't get any votes from the tween, teen or 20s crowd.
The latter two were able to hear him via USA's rerunning of $ale. I guess though, it parallels cases like Art James, where the younger set can only see him through random episodes of this and that traded around, rather than in daily service like some of our elder members saw him.
-Jason
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5. Johnny Gilbert- (Jeopardy! The $100,000 Pyramid) 175
4. Rod Roddy- (The Price is Right, Press Your Luck) 203
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'145883\' date=\'Feb 11 2007, 05:54 PM\']
the six names in the top five are (presumably) Olson, Wood, Pardo, Gilbert, Roddy and O'Donnell
There are several network staff announcers who did game shows back in the day but who have been forgotten by those of us old enough to have heard them the first time around, or were never known to today's audiences: Wayne Howell, Bill McCord, Bern Bennett, Dirk Fredricks ...
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Dirk Fredericks was one of the ABC staff guys, wasn't he? (along with the likes of Chet Gould)
And for my money, one of the most exciting announcers of the 1950's was Bill Rogers, who did "The $64,000 Question".
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3. Charlie O' Donnell (Wheel of Fortune)/Don Pardo(Jeopardy!)-TIE 219 (With one first place vote for each)
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2. Gene Wood- 253 (with 2 first place votes)
1. Johnny Olson- 315 (With 12 first place votes)
Thanks to everyone who participated, :)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'145880\' date=\'Feb 11 2007, 05:33 PM\']
As it is, the six names in the top five are (presumably) Olson, Wood, Pardo, Gilbert, Roddy and O'Donnell. .
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Too bad we didn't get a pool going, eh Matt? :)
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'146957\' date=\'Feb 26 2007, 05:19 PM\']Too bad we didn't get a pool going, eh Matt? :)[/quote]
Well, at that point it was pretty much fish-in-a-barrel.
Meanwhile, I'm pretty pleased that the ten names I chose were the ten top vote-getters, though obviously not in precisely the same order.
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Dirk Fredericks was one of the ABC staff guys, wasn't he? (along with the likes of Chet Gould)
Dirk Fredericks was ABC staff. I don't know anything about the background of Chet Gould, but I've heard that Jim Perry spent some time at WABC, so that would make three game show talents to come out of ABC New York. Then there is Jim Lange who came from ABC San Francisco, but he only did work for ABC television there (Oh My Word and Tennessee Ernie Ford), not radio.
Let us not forget Ralph Paul, announcer of Dotto.
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Fred Foy did "$20,000 Pyramid" and "Generation Gap" at ABC. If you've ever seen "The Lone Ranger" or "The Dick Cavett Show" you've heard his voice.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'147060\' date=\'Feb 27 2007, 04:16 PM\']
Fred Foy did "$20,000 Pyramid" and "Generation Gap" at ABC. If you've ever seen "The Lone Ranger" or "The Dick Cavett Show" you've heard his voice.
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He also did the pilot for "King of the Hill"-----for CBS.
Somehow, I don't believe Chet Gould was on staff for any of the networks.
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I am not sure about Chet Gould being on staff at the networks, but according to back issues of TV Guide, he did anchor the weeknight 11:10pm news on WABC for a time in 1962-63.