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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Sonic Whammy on October 02, 2006, 06:45:30 PM
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Well, the premiere is in the books. Here's what we've got:
A puzzle appears that is a question, and the answer to that question is provided. Each player takes turns answering mini-questions. The answer to these mini-questions are found by unscrambling letters to a word or name. Among these letters there is an extra letter. That extra letter goes into the puzzle in its appropriate places. Each question answers earns a point per time the letter goes in the puzzle. Guessing the puzzle question with the answer provided earns a bonus 5 points.
2 rounds of 3 puzzles each are played. Round 2 plays with double points, the answer to the question also needing to be filled in, plus the ability to maintain control as long as you keep answering questions right. Most points wins.
The bonus round plays the same way, where each point earned translates to 1 second toward solving one final puzzle, answer and all. When time is up, you have 10 seconds to spell everything out. Do it, and win $5000.
I find it to be an interesting twist on Wheel and $1MCoaL, so on that alone, I like it quite a bit. But if the premiere was any indication, the bonus round was WAY WAY too easy. Tonight's player had over 2 minutes to fill in the puzzle, which was enough to practically spell it all out. I think something should have been done to toughen that up a little bit. Perhaps only fill in ONE of that extra letter instead of everywhere it goes in the question. Would make the extended time more sensible.
The show's also a little too quiet for what it's worth. I know this is GSN, and no audience can be afforded, but there's practically no background at all. They keep it so quiet so that you can hear this tiny female voice whispering "Question" all the time, and say "That's The Question" when a puzzle is solved. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.
Ah, well, I still like it for what it's worth. I'll give it... a B-.
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That's a pretty good summary. I agree with everything you say. The applause is definitely really too quiet. It sounds more like a public access or quiz bowl game show.
BTW, may I alter your text and use it for a Wikipedia entry for the show?
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Oh gawd.
Does EVERYTHING have to have a flippin' Wiki article anymore?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'133214\' date=\'Oct 2 2006, 06:10 PM\']
Does EVERYTHING have to have a flippin' Wiki article anymore?
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Just mark it as a candidate for deletion. :)
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[quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' post=\'133210\' date=\'Oct 2 2006, 05:45 PM\']
The show's also a little too quiet for what it's worth. I know this is GSN, and no audience can be afforded, but there's practically no background at all. [/quote]
I thought that was because of the Netherlands taping, perhaps they couldn't find very many audience members...?
For some reason I kept thinking of Cross-Wits from the 1970s, perhaps because of the atmosphere/dark lighting/quiet applause.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'133214\' date=\'Oct 2 2006, 07:10 PM\']Does EVERYTHING have to have a flippin' Wiki article anymore?
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Roar. It's a prominent feature of the GSN schedule and I figured it would be nice to have an article for it. It's not like I'm creating a Chris Lemon page. =X
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They keep it so quiet so that you can hear this tiny female voice whispering "Question" all the time, and say "That's The Question" when a puzzle is solved. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.
That's an intentional sound effect.
Agreed that the show needs more life. Also, I think the show could use some sort of buzzer faceoff climax to not only bring the game to a better end, but give the opponent ample opportunity to actually determine their own fate, rather than hope the other guy fails.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'133223\' date=\'Oct 2 2006, 07:44 PM\']
Agreed that the show needs more life. Also, I think the show could use some sort of buzzer faceoff climax to not only bring the game to a better end, but give the opponent ample opportunity to actually determine their own fate, rather than hope the other guy fails.
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That's a good way of looking at things, too. Maybe make the 2nd round only 2 puzzles, then have a final round face-off like you said.
And if you really want to make a Wiki article of it, Chad, be my guest. You have to understand that Wiki is a growing pop culture encyclopedia as well as a standard online World Book. If Chad doesn't do it, trust me, someone else will.
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[quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' post=\'133226\' date=\'Oct 2 2006, 05:12 PM\']You have to understand that Wiki is a growing pop culture encyclopedia as well as a standard online World Book. If Chad doesn't do it, trust me, someone else will.[/quote]And therein is the big problem. You would never find "Jeopardy!" or "The Match Game" as an entry in the World Book Encyclopedia. Now we have television episodes and single songs (not even an album, but a single track!) given their own page.
Please, stop the madness. Won't someone PLEASE think of the children?
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I missed the premiere. I set it on my TiVo but when I tried to play it, there was only a black screen. With what I read it sounds almost like another show Bob did, The Home Shopping Game. There you also had to unscramble words. The main game sounds like Jumble taken out of the newspaper since one letter in the mini answer goes in the puzzle. Hopefully the 2nd show will tape for me.
Brian
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Agreed that the show needs more life. Also, I think the show could use some sort of buzzer faceoff climax to not only bring the game to a better end, but give the opponent ample opportunity to actually determine their own fate, rather than hope the other guy fails.
At first I thought that toss up question at the beginning would be the way the game would be played, so they could use that as a bonus round; reveal questions slowly and contestant must buzz in and give X amount of questions and answers in X amount of time.
Toss-up also sounds good for a final question of the main game to give the trailer a chance.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Oct 2 2006, 10:42 PM\']Please, stop the madness. Won't someone PLEASE think of the children?[/quote]
You forgot "Get off my lawn".
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'133240\' date=\'Oct 2 2006, 10:42 PM\']And therein is the big problem. You would never find "Jeopardy!" or "The Match Game" as an entry in the World Book Encyclopedia. Now we have television episodes and single songs (not even an album, but a single track!) given their own page.[/quote]
Other than wasted effort on the part of the article writers, I still don't see the actual problem with that. Do the links to minutiae compel you to click them?
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I get that the contestants and host are facing an off-screen monitor. (The gameboard-on-the-floor graphic is cute if unnecessary. It made my wife ask, "Is the puzzle really on the floor?"--which caused me to think, well, that's one way to raise the difficulty bar: make the players read the gameboard upside down.)
And I know this was the first episode broadcast (if not necessarily the first one taped), but I was starting to get annoyed by the players who, it seemed, never took their eyes off the gameboard, even when answering one of the mini- questions. I found it one of the less interesting stage pictures (sorry, screen pictures) I'd ever witnessed.
As for the game itself: eh. Nice playalong factor, at least. Did Bob announce that there would be three puzzles per round? The end of the main game took me by surprise. ("It's over? Oh. Well, yeah, I guess it is.") The end game or bonus round or whatever it's called seemed awfully easy in that episode--but perhaps yesterday's winner got lucky. I have no problem with somebody who does really well in the main game getting an advantage in the bonus, but the difficulty could be raised by making the mini-questions tougher.
All in all: not appointment tv by any stretch. Nor something I'd want to Wiki.
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That's quite interesting.
There's also a French version called "Tele la question", but the rounds don't go to a certain amount of puzzles, they're timed at three-and-a-half minutes each. Any open question when the time runs out is filled in randomly and offered on the buzzers, players score 3 points everytime they're letter is involved somewhere and the bonus appears to be three points for every unfilled letter. The bonus game offers a flat 90 seconds. The whole show is done and dusted in 15 minutes.
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I liked the premiere a lot. I think Bob Goen was a great choice to host. I like the format of the game, except I would rather see the contestants have to buzz in order to answer a question instead of only having the player in control able to answer. The basic game format to me seems like a nice fusion of Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune. The questions had a good mix of difficulty.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'133265\' date=\'Oct 3 2006, 02:48 AM\']
Other than wasted effort on the part of the article writers, I still don't see the actual problem with that. Do the links to minutiae compel you to click them?
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There really isn't a problem, and you're totally right. I think my frustration stems from the vibe I'm getting that the motive is not to preserve this for any kind of historical record (because, c'mon), but to get Yet Another Wiki Credit under his belt. And I suppose there's nothing inherently wrong with that, either, it just rubs me the wrong way.
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That makes sense, Chris. I was rolling my eyes a bit just at the idea, I admit.
I don't want to give the impression that I love Wikipedia to death, but the level of detail you can often find there is actually a plus, to me. I never understood (especially back in the "old days") people wandering around the Web by following links willy-nilly, having no idea where they ended up--but doing that just inside Wikipedia, I often find it engrossing. "Hey, when was that song released? Hey, that guy helped make it--have I heard of him? Oh, yeah, he died last year? He appeared on that show--what sort of show was that?" Etc.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'133305\' date=\'Oct 3 2006, 11:10 AM\']
I don't want to give the impression that I love Wikipedia to death, but the level of detail you can often find there is actually a plus, to me. I never understood (especially back in the "old days") people wandering around the Web by following links willy-nilly, having no idea where they ended up--but doing that just inside Wikipedia, I often find it engrossing.
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I agree, and I admit I search on tangential topics sometimes to see what's in there. But something else occurred to me...not ONLY is the vibe that he's trying to get another Wiki credit under his belt, but he's asking to yoink someone else's text to DO it, which means he's not even interested in doing it with his own work.
So, yeah. Breaking any rules? Of course not. Reprehensible and morally without redemption? Oh, no. But eye-rolling and questionable? Yeah.
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I liked it...I do agree that the 2nd round needs to be head-to-head or something to that effect, but the concept is pretty well done, as well as the range and difficulty of the material. Goen does a good job hosting, and I personally liked it at the beginning, when they're interviewing the players, that they have facts about them pop in on the gameboard. It's a solid B from me...tweak that 2nd round and this show could be GSN's next Lingo....
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Play along spoiler:
Round 2 tonight: "What company makes America's mouthwash? Listerine." "That's the question."
Actually here's the question: huh?
That oddly-worded puzzle is my only complaint with the show so far. Otherwise I like it and hope it does, indeed, become the next Lingo.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'133339\' date=\'Oct 3 2006, 07:46 PM\']
That oddly-worded puzzle is my only complaint with the show so far. Otherwise I like it and hope it does, indeed, become the next Lingo.
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Yeah, I looked at that funny too. I watched the show for the first time tonight and enjoyed it. My only beef is that they should apply the "get the word, you keep control" for round 1 as well, not just round 2. The show is a perfect complement to Lingo and would be nice if it were paired with Lingo in an hour slot on GSN's schedule sometime.
I missed seeing Bob Goen do game shows; I enjoyed him on his previous shows.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'133339\' date=\'Oct 3 2006, 07:46 PM\']Round 2 tonight: "What company makes America's mouthwash? Listerine." "That's the question."
Actually here's the question: huh?[/quote]
I have to think that that should read "What company makes 'America's Mouthwash'?"
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'133348\' date=\'Oct 3 2006, 09:04 PM\']
I have to think that that should read "What company makes 'America's Mouthwash'?"
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Is "America's Mouthwash" actually a slogan or something? If it is, I (and Google) must have missed it.
The other problem I had is that Listerine isn't a company, it's a brand. Pfizer is the company that makes it.
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I hope Americans are writing these questions...
...the more intelligent Americans....
I really should remember to watch this.
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I hate to be a naysayer, but doesn't anybody else find this show ridiculously boring? Is there any excitement at all when they guess the puzzle, er, question? The set and Bob are all right, I guess, but the game wasn't original or involving.
But maybe that's just me.
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I should clarify--I meant that that was the only reading that could even theoretically make sense, not that it actually makes sense.
(Not one result for even just "America's mouthwash" on Google? Whaddaya know.)
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This show appears to take on a rather mediocre form here. The only good parts are the set & Bob Goen. Gameplay is somewhat boring to look at even though it incorporates the play-along factor nicely. I wonder how the players can actually see the board ir it'a "on the floor" so to speak.Even though there was a face-off at the end of round 2 on the 2nd episode, there should've been more of that for the mini-questions. Also, control shouldn't alternate between players in round 1 though I understand they want each player to learn how to play the game & get a feel for it.
The bonus round does have its drawbacks mainly with the 1 second/point set-up that gives good players times of at least 2 minutes. However, in the 2nd episode where only 86 seconds was needed, the player kept missing mini-questions therefore making it harder to win the $5K that way. It's a mixed bag there,
Overall, I'll give TtQ a 6. After this week, I'll check it out periodically.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'133339\' date=\'Oct 3 2006, 07:46 PM\']
Round 2 tonight: "What company makes America's mouthwash? Listerine." "That's the question."
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Reminds me of some of the questions Mr. Ottinger has documented (http://\"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/inside/rollers/index.html\") from the original High Rollers home game.
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Am I the only one who thinks that the set bears a bit of a resemblance to (the original) Chain Reaction?
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'133417\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 11:04 AM\']
Am I the only one who thinks that the set bears a bit of a resemblance to (the original) Chain Reaction?
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Hey Aaron, I agree with you! I was waiting for Brian Patrick Clarke and Anita Gillette to walk out!
One comment on the Wednesday airing, well two actually:
I saw at least two misspellings: the element HYDROGYN and Paul BUNYON. I hadn't noticed any other mistakes before, but the fact that such things could affect the outcome of the game bothered me.
All in all I really like the show-I hope it succeeds. I noticed within a few seconds of turning it on today my wife was shouting out the answers-rare for her to get involved in a show. My son was watching Clifford the Big Red Dog though... we'll try to convert him another day, but the fact that T'TQ airs against Clifford will be a tough sell! :)
Matt
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'133380\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 12:08 AM\']
(Not one result for even just "America's mouthwash" on Google? Whaddaya know.)
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"Your search turned up no documents."
And personally I always thought of Scope as "America's mouthwash," but that's just me.
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[quote name=\'mcsittel\' post=\'133492\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 06:54 PM\']
I saw at least two misspellings: the element HYDROGYN and Paul BUNYON. I hadn't noticed any other mistakes before, but the fact that such things could affect the outcome of the game bothered me.
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I'm at work right now, so I didn't see the show, but I guarantee you I'd be just as upset - I can't believe those two made air.
Oh, wait, it's a GSN show - never mind, I can. :)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'133496\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 06:11 PM\'] [quote name=\'mcsittel\' post=\'133492\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 06:54 PM\']
I saw at least two misspellings: the element HYDROGYN and Paul BUNYON. I hadn't noticed any other mistakes before, but the fact that such things could affect the outcome of the game bothered me.
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I'm at work right now, so I didn't see the show, but I guarantee you I'd be just as upset - I can't believe those two made air.
Oh, wait, it's a GSN show - never mind, I can. :)
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That's even worse than SWEEDEN and CZECK REPUBLIC (http://\"http://www.flashgameshows.com/mc_1vs100.html\")...
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'133496\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 06:11 PM\']
I'm at work right now, so I didn't see the show, but I guarantee you I'd be just as upset - I can't believe those two made air.
Oh, wait, it's a GSN show - never mind, I can. :)
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(Cringing as I say this) Make that three...during one of the intros (fortunately not affecting gameplay) they also misspelled "documentaries."
Ouch. Three misspellings in a national game show that's supposed to be a word game.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'133509\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 09:32 PM\']
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'133496\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 06:11 PM\']
I'm at work right now, so I didn't see the show, but I guarantee you I'd be just as upset - I can't believe those two made air.
Oh, wait, it's a GSN show - never mind, I can. :)
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(Cringing as I say this) Make that three...during one of the intros (fortunately not affecting gameplay) they also misspelled "documentaries."
Ouch. Three misspellings in a national game show that's supposed to be a word game.
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"What game show's writing staff needs to hire a spell checker?"
"That's The Question"
(female)"That's the Question"
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I'm starting to wonder if they just used the entire Dutch staff, and that's the major cause for the spelling errors. I'm not justifying it and saying that "Oh well, that's the way it goes", because for a word game it is unacceptable, but I'm just wondering.
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My suspicion is the opposite: A Dutch staffer who learned English as a second language would probably spell things better than a native speaker.
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Those darn Dutch. {Nigel Powers} If there's two things I can't stand, it's people who are intolerant of other people's cultures.........and the Dutch. {/Nigel Powers} Hopefully this show does good enough to produce more episodes in the US.
Either that, or Iris Mason is over there working for them. ;)
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'133523\' date=\'Oct 4 2006, 11:49 PM\']
My suspicion is the opposite: A Dutch staffer who learned English as a second language would probably spell things better than a native speaker.
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Same here--and most Dutch are pretty fluent in English, IIRC. The fact that U.S. and British programming airs undubbed (with subtitles) and BBC1 and 2 are piped into their cable would seem to indicate that they are comfortable with the English language.
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Yes, but are they comfortable with the AMERICAN English language? I think that's the real question (to coin a phrase). Just like how there's various differences between the Spanish dialects, there's various difference between Englishes.
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Man! They've just done it again.
"WHO'S BACK UP BAND..."
Oy.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'133608\' date=\'Oct 5 2006, 05:10 PM\']
Man! They've just done it again.
"WHO'S BACK UP BAND..."[/quote]
(bangs head on desk)
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Although half of America would probably make the same mistake, that's no excuse.
Perhaps the staff is more worried about making insanely long answers to the mini-questions.
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These typos are embarrassing. If this were a game taped in the States, every losing contestant would have a legitimate claim to return to play again.
This is a show that requires you to unscramble words to answer questions. If the scrambled words are spelled wrong, you are hindering the players ability to score.
Plain and simple : that's not right.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'133662\' date=\'Oct 6 2006, 08:28 AM\']
This is a show that requires you to unscramble words to answer questions. If the scrambled words are spelled wrong, you are hindering the players ability to score.
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Most definitely, considering that each word has one extra letter (which of course gets fed into the puzzle). Has it happened yet where a misspelled word directly impacted the puzzle with that extra letter?
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'133685\' date=\'Oct 6 2006, 12:09 PM\']
Has it happened yet where a misspelled word directly impacted the puzzle with that extra letter?
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Couldn't tell you. After that who's/whose incident--I'm sorry, I know it's a common mistake but it's fingernails on the chalkboard of my soul--I ceased to care about this show.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'133695\' date=\'Oct 6 2006, 01:10 PM\']
Couldn't tell you. After that who's/whose incident--I'm sorry, I know it's a common mistake but it's fingernails on the chalkboard of my soul--I ceased to care about this show.
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It's nails on the chalkboard to me too...That, and most other common spelling mistakes (your/you're, etc..). I don't mind them so much in forums like this, but when I see them on signs or TV or whatnot...It really "grinds my gears" so to say (props to the poster who used that and to Peter Griffin).
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It doesn't seem worthy of a new thread, but I just have to note that there was a mistake on today's episode. The question asked was what Mars probe shares its name with a Toyota model. The answer was Pathfinder. The Pathfinder is a Nissan model.
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Um, who makes Pathfinder cars again?
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'133739\' date=\'Oct 6 2006, 05:16 PM\']
Um, who makes Pathfinder cars again?
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Nissan, and they're actually SUVs...why?
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I could've sworn Bob said Toyota. If so, then we're getting a new type of egregious error.
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I watched the show for the first time tonight.
Dislike:- obviously, the spelling and factual errors
- the voice that says, "That's the question."
- including "the" as part of the scramble sometimes and not others (and never "a," on the show that I watched)
This doesn't rise to the level of a dislike, but it seems waste of material not to let one player answer a question when the other player misses it.
Like:- Bob Goen hosting
- Without insulting the players on tonight's show, they clearly were chosen for their ability to play and not as eye candy.
- 1- and 2-point values, rather than inflated scores (see: Lingo and Idiot Savants)
It's not VCR-worthy, but I'd watch it if I were home.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Oct 6 2006, 09:39 PM\']1- and 2-point values, rather than inflated scores (see: Lingo and Idiot Savants)[/quote]
"You've earned 12,000 points, so you'll have 12,000 seconds to work on your bonus question..."
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[quote name=\'Jimmy James\' post=\'133737\' date=\'Oct 6 2006, 06:13 PM\']
It doesn't seem worthy of a new thread,[/quote]
No, no--no need. Let's just let this become the longest thread in the board's history! Or, better--hopefully--they'll sort things out, get a fact checker and a native English speaker, and our benevolent mods will have reason to close this one.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'133608\' date=\'Oct 5 2006, 06:10 PM\']
Man! They've just done it again.
"WHO'S BACK UP BAND..."
Oy.
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Ya know, if I were the contestant here, I'd make a point of reading that as "who is." I'm sorry, but I have no respect for people who are paid to write things and can't bother to spell them correctly.
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Other than those obvious grammar/spelling/factual errors, I like the show for what it has, and the show really has potential. I look forward to this show developing.
I think besides that "That's the Question" voice...once is enough, or maybe only after the puzzle was solved.
But Bob Goen is back to form. Nearly as comparable, if not improved from his "Wheel" days.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'133814\' date=\'Oct 7 2006, 07:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'133608\' date=\'Oct 5 2006, 06:10 PM\']
"WHO'S BACK UP BAND..."
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Ya know, if I were the contestant here, I'd make a point of reading that as "who is." [/quote]
And, of course, you'd have been ruled incorrect. Grammatical high road, maybe, but it might well have taken you to the Land of Parting Gifts. ;)
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'133897\' date=\'Oct 8 2006, 09:05 PM\']
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'133814\' date=\'Oct 7 2006, 07:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'133608\' date=\'Oct 5 2006, 06:10 PM\']
"WHO'S BACK UP BAND..."
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Ya know, if I were the contestant here, I'd make a point of reading that as "who is." [/quote]
And, of course, you'd have been ruled incorrect. Grammatical high road, maybe, but it might well have taken you to the Land of Parting Gifts. ;)
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Then I'd just be an ass and say 'em both. It'd get edited out, of course, but like I said, I have no sympathy for something like that.
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The Who has a backup band?
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::rimshot::
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Who knew?
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Who knew?
No...that's a song by Pink!
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On yesterday's show, Froot Loops was spelled as Fruit Loops.
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[quote name=\'PartingGift\' post=\'134841\' date=\'Oct 18 2006, 06:54 AM\']
On yesterday's show, Froot Loops was spelled as Fruit Loops.
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In their (minimal) defense, this is one I can see them missing...in fact, this is one I can see them missing intentionally.
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They seem to have gotten a little better. Aside from the Fruit Loops stuff, the only real issues are splitting up theoretically compound words (eg westernmost)
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is it just me or does it seem like they deliberately pick the stupidest people out of those that apply to be on the show because the scores have been absolutely pathetic, and considering how easy the bonus round is, you wouldn't expect ANYBODY to lose, and certainly not EVERYBODY!
i can see this show lasting if only because of how funny it can get,
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You obviously haven't seen the several people who rack up 100+ points, or the one girl that got a question with nothing but N's. (Granted, the answer was Eli Whitney, but still...)
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Saw this on the GSN board.........This one REALLY takes the cake for problems with "That's the Question".
WHAT WEB BROWSER IS LIKE SCREAMING FOR JOY?
Answer is Yahoo.
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Out of all the errors the show has had, IMO, this is the least of them. I think the "Hydrogyn" one takes the cake so far.
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On our school newscasts, we have a weekly feature where we display all of the names of students who have birthdays coming up over the next seven days. One of my students compiles it, but since it's obviously an easy place for a typo to happen, I double check the spellings.
The list that went out today had every student's name spelled correctly...but in my narrow focus on the students' names, I failed to catch that my student had misspelled "Thursday".
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'137154\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 04:18 PM\']
Out of all the errors the show has had, IMO, this is the least of them. I think the "Hydrogyn" one takes the cake so far.
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Maybe it's just because I'm a major computer geek, but if I was on the show and lost because of that question, I would be absolutely livid. Firefox, IE, Opera, Safari....They're all web browsers. Yahoo! can be a messenger, or used for mail, or personal ads, but it is NOT a browser.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'137166\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 03:42 PM\']
Maybe it's just because I'm a major computer geek,
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I don't even think you have to be a major computer geek to recognize that that question is 100% factually incorrect, just like the Donkey Kong / Mario Brothers question was. That isn't nerdy only-a-real-geek-would-know-that stuff, it's just plain WRONG.
I don't agree with Alex's suggestion (yeah, big shock, I know) that this wasn't a major deal. Misspelling a word is bad, yes. Plain straight-up being FACTUALLY WRONG is something else.
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No, you misunderstood me. I think it's still a big deal in terms that they shouldn't be making them, but I feel the misspelling of absolutely simple words like "hydrogyn" is a bit more significant than this. A person with the IQ of a jellybean could spell hydrogen the computer, because it would be underlined in red that it was misspelled. I don't know why disagreeing with me is "no big shock". Tthat seemed like a needless jab at me when I've done nothing whatsoever to you, but whatever.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'137172\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 04:39 PM\']
No, you misunderstood me. I think it's still a big deal in terms that they shouldn't be making them, but I feel the misspelling of absolutely simple words like "hydrogyn" is a bit more significant than this.
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No, I understand you fine. I just don't agree. Factual errors trump misspellings every day of the week.
A person with the IQ of a jellybean could spell hydrogen the computer, because it would be underlined in red that it was misspelled.
You're making a lot of assumptions about the software with which they use to assemble these questions. Like, that it has a spell checker, that's it's turned on if it is, and that it underlines misspelled words.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'137177\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 08:08 PM\']
You're making a lot of assumptions about the software with which they use to assemble these questions. Like, that it has a spell checker, that's it's turned on if it is, and that it underlines misspelled words.
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Maybe they should use Stacey Hayes. After all, that would make spell-checking go faster (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=4851&view=findpost&p=49456\").
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Thanks for recalling THAT thread, David. I almost wish he was not banned if for nothing but pure entertainment value.
I side with Chris on this....Factual errors definitely are a bigger deal than misspellings.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'137168\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 06:49 PM\']
you have to be a major computer geek to recognize that that question is 100% factually incorrect, just like the Donkey Kong / Mario Brothers question was.[/quote]
What was that question? Don't remember seeing it.
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[quote name=\'Allstar87\' post=\'137184\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 06:07 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'137168\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 06:49 PM\']
you have to be a major computer geek to recognize that that question is 100% factually incorrect, just like the Donkey Kong / Mario Brothers question was.[/quote]
What was that question? Don't remember seeing it.
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I don't remember the exact wording, but the gist of it was "In which video game did the Mario Brothers make their debut?" with an answer of DONKEY KONG. Which, if you're any kind of student of video game history at all, is not only wrong, but two years and three games off.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'137191\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 10:12 PM\']
I don't remember the exact wording, but the gist of it was "In which video game did the Mario Brothers make their debut?" with an answer of DONKEY KONG. Which, if you're any kind of student of video game history at all, is not only wrong, but two years and three games off.
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I do know my video game history, so seeing an error like that...
...boy, this show needs help.
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I don't remember the exact wording, but the gist of it was "In which video game did the Mario Brothers make their debut?" with an answer of DONKEY KONG. Which, if you're any kind of student of video game history at all, is not only wrong, but two years and three games off.
While still technically incorrect, the show's offense with this question isn't that horrendous; they just included one brother too many in the question.
Mario did make his debut in Donkey Kong in 1981, but Luigi wasn't there. Luigi came along in 1983 in Mario Brothers.
--Jamie
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'137206\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 10:35 PM\']
While still technically incorrect, the show's offense isn't that horrendous.
They're only one brother off; Mario did make his debut in Donkey Kong in 1981, but Luigi wasn't there. Luigi came along in 1983 in Mario Brothers.
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Yes, thank you, that was the whole "two years and three games later" thing I was talking about.
You don't think that's a critical factual error? In a game that uses the answer to the question as a HINT to the puzzle?
Seems to me, if you were writing a show like this, you would at least have ONE researcher on staff to vet the questions.
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According to Steve Beverly the show is being replaced 'H2' next week.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'137206\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 01:35 AM\']
While still technically incorrect, the show's offense with this question isn't that horrendous; they just included one brother too many in the question.
Mario did make his debut in Donkey Kong in 1981, but Luigi wasn't there. Luigi came along in 1983 in Mario Brothers.
--Jamie
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But then you have the beginning of "Donkey Kong Jr." in which Mario and someone else, who looks like Mario (but also dressed in red, not the usual Luigi green) were lifting Donkey Kong up in his cage. :) Who was that other guy? :) Some have said that was Luigi, but I, too, consider Luigi to have made his official appearance in "Mario Bros."
(And if you want to get REALLY technical, Mario's name in the original Donkey Kong was "Jumpman".)
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'137211\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 09:02 AM\']
According to Steve Beverly the show is being replaced 'H2' next week.
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Not to veer this off-topic, but in checking our most beloved site he mentions Sasha Segan as being a famous person from Child's Play. Apparently Mr. Beverly has not heard of Tara Reid.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'137220\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 12:47 PM\']
Not to veer this off-topic, but in checking our most beloved site he mentions Sasha Segan as being a famous person from Child's Play. Apparently Mr. Beverly has not heard of Tara Reid.
--Mike
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Either that, or she goes against his family values, so he declined to mention her. :)
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'137220\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 12:47 PM\']
[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'137211\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 09:02 AM\']
According to Steve Beverly the show is being replaced 'H2' next week.
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Not to veer this off-topic, but in checking our most beloved site he mentions Sasha Segan as being a famous person from Child's Play. Apparently Mr. Beverly has not heard of Tara Reid.
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As a guy in the news biz, who follows the news biz very closely, I've never heard of Sasha Segan. A quick google search does not report her an ABC news veteran.
I'm wondering if Sasha is a friend, or a grad of Steve's University, and did some time as a production assoc, nothing more.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'137222\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 10:07 AM\']
As a guy in the news biz, who follows the news biz very closely, I've never heard of Sasha Segan. A quick google search does not report her an ABC news veteran.
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Apparently you didn't follow Child's Play very closely, either, or else you'd know Sascha Segan was a guy. ;)
Sascha certainly doesn't enjoy fame in the sense that, say, Paris Hilton enjoys fame, but before the ABC gig he was known among followers of computer journalism as a reasonably successful writer.
So his name was out there, but really the only people who really would have noticed it would have been folks who knew his name from the show.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'137222\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 01:07 PM\']
As a guy in the news biz, who follows the news biz very closely, I've never heard of Sasha Segan. A quick google search does not report her an ABC news veteran.
I'm wondering if Sasha is a friend, or a grad of Steve's University, and did some time as a production assoc, nothing more.
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Actually, Sascha Segan is a *he*. :) Do a google search with his correct spelling and a lot more results will yield. :) He's a freelance journalist.
EDIT: Beaten to the punch by Mr. Lemon by just the slightest of margins. :)
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I'll take "Gender benders" for $30, Art.
Whoops.
However, a glance at HIS resume shows that HE was a producer for ABCNews.COM for 2 years, and not a permanent (or even freelance) on-air correspondent. My original accusation against the irrelevancy towards this "6 Degrees of Steve Beverly" stands.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'137232\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 11:24 AM\']
My original accusation against the irrelevancy towards this "6 Degrees of Steve Beverly" stands.
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Now that I've seen the quote in question, yes, he quite overrepresents Segan's celebrity. (And misspells his first name; you'd think Captain Journalism would check his facts.)
(That said, I do think he might have done an on-air tech segment or two on World News Now.)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'137221\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 12:57 PM\']
Either that, or she goes against his family values, so he declined to mention her. :)
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With her being in American Pie movie(s) and her (botched) breast implants, I'm willing to believe that as well...even though she IS much more known than Sasha.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'137233\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 02:28 PM\']Now that I've seen the quote in question, yes, he quite overrepresents Segan's celebrity. [/quote]
Always the Beverly apologist, I'm not sure I agree with that. The line was, "Child's Play made a brief celebrity out of frequent kid respondent Sasha Segan, who surfaced several years ago with ABC News." I take that to mean that Sagan was the one "breakout" kid from the show itself, a sentiment I would agree with. And yes, he "surfaced" later with ABC News. I remember people making all sorts of fuss on Usenet about having "found" this one-time child notable.
I doubt Steve-o has a clue that Reid was once a Child's Play kid.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'137246\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 02:36 PM\']
I remember people making all sorts of fuss on Usenet about having "found" this one-time child notable.
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Did they? Okay, fair enough. To me, saying that without qualifying that it was a cup-of-coffee visit to ABC at 3:00 in the morning makes it sound bigger than it is.
But he still screwed the spelling on Sascha's name. Which wasn't exactly a difficult thing to verify, and kinda funny, considering the Perfesser's hard-on for full names on game shows. :)
(In his brief defense, a Google search on both strings provides more hits on the wrong spelling; as it happens, one of Carl's kids is named "Sasha". But he's supposed to be the World's Foremost Authority, right?)
I doubt Steve-o has a clue that Reid was once a Child's Play kid.
There, fixed that for you. :)
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'137220\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 12:47 PM\']Not to veer this off-topic, but....[/quote]
....yeah.
Trying to get back on-topic, for all the issues about Q's and A's we have, we can be cautiously optimistic if this gets picked up for another run, because GSN originals almost always tend to have some sort of change in them between seasons. Granted, it's normally has nothing to do with the Q's and A's, but we can hope, can't we?
/Same argument can be applied to Chain Reaction.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'137247\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 06:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'137246\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 02:36 PM\']
I remember people making all sorts of fuss on Usenet about having "found" this one-time child notable.
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Did they? Okay, fair enough. To me, saying that without qualifying that it was a cup-of-coffee visit to ABC at 3:00 in the morning makes it sound bigger than it is.[/quote]
Actually, I found this amusing. You called him a celebrity yourself! (http://\"http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.game-shows/browse_frm/thread/47534d0186f6fd36/\")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'137177\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 09:08 PM\']
I just don't agree. Factual errors trump misspellings every day of the week.[/quote]
I don't think it's that universal, I think it really depends on the show. On Jeopardy! I can see how a misspelling, however embarrassing, wouldn't be as bad as a screwed up or misleading "fact." (Or on College Bowl or the radio College Quiz Bowl; I recently heard a radio version in which Allen Ludden asked "What is the final book of the New Testament?" and counted "Revelations" as wrong. The following week--I have this show too--he had to issue a rather embarrassing mea culpa and mentioned a heavy listener response. Of course spelling is meaningless on radio.)
But on Wheel of Fortune or Lingo a really bad TtQ-type misspelling would be a disaster. That's the Question is unusual in that it involves getting letters correct and questions of knowledge. Both are equally bad but the misspelling or grammatical error would be a lot more embarrassing I would think.
Edit: embarrassingly I screwed up the College Quiz Bowl quote myself and have changed "Old" to "New."
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'137305\' date=\'Nov 8 2006, 07:16 AM\']
Actually, I found this amusing. You called him a celebrity yourself! (http://\"http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.game-shows/browse_frm/thread/47534d0186f6fd36/\")
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Well, yes, but note that I qualified that by calling him a "GS celebrity". Which I think he is. There are lots of people in our little hobby who are well-known for various reasons among us who the general public wouldn't say boo to. Hell, I'd consider Jack Campion to be a GS celebrity.
All I was saying was that the Perfesser's omission of information (and let me make it clear that I'm not losing any sleep over this; I'm just sayin') made it look like Sascha's role at ABC News might have been bigger than it was. I don't think this was malicious...hell, I doubt the Perfesser thought about it much. But that's the vibe I got. Kinda like me saying "Yeah, I worked with Fox and CBS", when in fact my only contact with them was setting up a network live shot or listening in on the conference call in Master Control during a sports broadcast.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'137307\' date=\'Nov 8 2006, 10:29 AM\'](Or on College Bowl or the radio College Quiz Bowl; I recently heard a radio version in which Allen Ludden asked "What is the final book of the Old Testament?" and counted "Revelations" as wrong. The following week--I have this show too--he had to issue a rather embarrassing mea culpa and mentioned a heavy listener response. Of course spelling is meaningless on radio.)[/quote]
I'm guessing you mistyped something there, as Revelation(s) is the final book of the New Testament.
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' post=\'137211\' date=\'Nov 7 2006, 09:02 AM\']
According to Steve Beverly the show is being replaced 'H2' next week.
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To be or not to be, That's the Question.
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[quote name=\'cweaver\' post=\'137307\' date=\'Nov 8 2006, 10:29 AM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'137177\' date=\'Nov 6 2006, 09:08 PM\']
I just don't agree. Factual errors trump misspellings every day of the week.[/quote]
I don't think it's that universal, I think it really depends on the show. On Jeopardy! I can see how a misspelling, however embarrassing, wouldn't be as bad as a screwed up or misleading "fact." (Or on College Bowl or the radio College Quiz Bowl; I recently heard a radio version in which Allen Ludden asked "What is the final book of the Old Testament?" and counted "Revelations" as wrong. The following week--I have this show too--he had to issue a rather embarrassing mea culpa and mentioned a heavy listener response. Of course spelling is meaningless on radio.) [/quote]
The answer to the question, as you wrote it, is Malachi. Revelation is the last book of the New Testament.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'137322\' date=\'Nov 8 2006, 05:52 PM\']
I'm guessing you mistyped something there, as Revelation(s) is the final book of the New Testament.
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Wow, I guess it's spreading.
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FWIW, the question is, why is TTQ off the GSN schedule as of this week? Am I missing something?
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'139127\' date=\'Nov 29 2006, 06:04 PM\']FWIW, the question is, why is TTQ off the GSN schedule as of this week? Am I missing something?[/quote]Well, if they are showing something better in it's time slot, I wouldn't say you would be missing something, no. :)
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H2 has taken over TTQ's timeslot. No idea if it's coming back, but if it does, I hope it get some competent writers.
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' post=\'137374\' date=\'Nov 8 2006, 10:57 PM\']
The answer to the question, as you wrote it, is Malachi. Revelation is the last book of the New Testament.
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I corrected for this three times, two of them even after I caught the mistake myself and fixed it in the original post.
Edit: embarrassingly I screwed up the College Quiz Bowl quote myself and have changed "Old" to "New."
Why the extra corrections, I haven't a clue.
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I was in Amsterdam last week, and before a hotel nap I happened to catch the Dutch version, which I found no less dull than ours, even with the language barrier. It appeared just as many questions are missed in Dutch as are missed in English--I assumed that was function of the obvious casting challenge.