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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: uncamark on August 28, 2006, 05:42:43 PM
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The number of call-in-and-lose shows on national U.S. television doubles tonight as TBS premieres "Midnight Money Madness" on the former SuperStation at midnight ET (or 12:05 a.m., for you diehards from the old days). TBS' web site:
http://www.tbs.com/shows/midnightmoneymadn...|648968,00.html (http://\"http://www.tbs.com/shows/midnightmoneymadness/0,,|343144|648968,00.html\")
One of the hosts is a busty British babe who did a call-in-and-lose show over there (sound familiar?), the other one used to portray Mr. G. Ball on GSN back in the day.
Pray that "Up to the Minute" and "World News Now" will keep CBS and ABC from trying their hand at this genre, not to mention the Leno/Conan/whatever reruns on NBC. I wouldn't put it past Roger Ailes to pitch this for either Fox or MyNetworkTV affils, though.
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Well, I'm going to watch it tonight no matter what, but I've got a feeling it just won't be as good as PlayMania.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'129483\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 05:42 PM\']
The number of call-in-and-lose shows on national U.S. television doubles tonight as TBS premieres "Midnight Money Madness" on the former SuperStation at midnight ET (or 12:05 a.m., for you diehards from the old days). TBS' web site:
http://www.tbs.com/shows/midnightmoneymadn...|648968,00.html (http://\"http://www.tbs.com/shows/midnightmoneymadness/0,,|343144|648968,00.html\")
One of the hosts is a busty British babe who did a call-in-and-lose show over there (sound familiar?), the other one used to portray Mr. G. Ball on GSN back in the day.
Pray that "Up to the Minute" and "World News Now" will keep CBS and ABC from trying their hand at this genre, not to mention the Leno/Conan/whatever reruns on NBC. I wouldn't put it past Roger Ailes to pitch this for either Fox or MyNetworkTV affils, though.
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Sad thing is I could see CBS doing it...who the hell watches Up to the Minute?
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'129484\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 02:47 PM\']
Well, I'm going to watch it tonight no matter what, but I've got a feeling it just won't be as good as PlayMania.
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<splort>
I'll be sending you a bill for one new keyboard, Chad. This one has soda all in it now.
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Why is it that bad that I like PM and think it's a good show? For what it is, (a low-budget, lower-prize value call-in-at-late night show) it is a decent program. PlayMania is a good show that has lasted longer than anyone thought it would before. If you're expecting a flashy show with high-tech graphics and big-money prizes, then you're going to be disappointed because that's not what the show is about. It's stupid that you find it humorous that I like the show.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'129501\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 07:52 PM\']
Why is it that bad that I like PM and think it's a good show? For what it is, (a low-budget, lower-prize value call-in-at-late night show) it is a decent program. PlayMania is a good show that has lasted longer than anyone thought it would before. If you're expecting a flashy show with high-tech graphics and big-money prizes, then you're going to be disappointed because that's not what the show is about. It's stupid that you find it humorous that I like the show.
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I have no problem with the cheap presenation and all. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than those 1-900 shows USA and FAM did throughout the 1990s. And of course, you're entitled to your own opinion; I don't think Chris was denying you that. Not that I talk for him. :-)
However, I have a serious problem with the surveys that they use. Top 5 game shows, and "PlayMania" is one of them?! Lingo in the top 5?!
Top 5 comedy movies of the 90s, and you have "Clerks" and "Liar Liar"? Yes, I respect the hell out of Kevin Smith for what he's done, but I don't think that belongs as a top 5 comedy, and I sure as hell don't think "Liar Liar" belongs there.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'129501\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 07:52 PM\']
Why is it that bad that I like PM and think it's a good show? For what it is, (a low-budget, lower-prize value call-in-at-late night show) it is a decent program. PlayMania is a good show that has lasted longer than anyone thought it would before. If you're expecting a flashy show with high-tech graphics and big-money prizes, then you're going to be disappointed because that's not what the show is about. It's stupid that you find it humorous that I like the show.
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I'm guessing -- and Chris, please correct me if I'm wrong -- that what he found humorous isn't so much that you like the show, but that you think that one actually could be better than another given that there seems to be so little to these shows in the first place.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'129507\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 05:18 PM\']
And of course, you're entitled to your own opinion; I don't think Chris was denying you that.
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I dunno...
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'129501\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 07:52 PM\']
It's stupid that you find it humorous that I like the show.
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...he sure seems willing to deny me mine.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'129512\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 05:36 PM\']
I'm guessing -- and Chris, please correct me if I'm wrong -- that what he found humorous isn't so much that you like the show, but that you think that one actually could be better than another given that there seems to be so little to these shows in the first place.
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No, I think it's funny that the person rushing to defend the show when everyone else, to a man, happens to think it's complete crap, is the same person who just happens to have been on the show several times and won money from it. I'm reminded of a certain Donnymid contestant.
It was more the Spit-Take-Of-I-Can't-Believe-Someone-Friggin'-Said-That.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129515\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 08:38 PM\']
[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'129512\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 05:36 PM\']
I'm guessing -- and Chris, please correct me if I'm wrong -- that what he found humorous isn't so much that you like the show, but that you think that one actually could be better than another given that there seems to be so little to these shows in the first place.
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No, I think it's funny that the person rushing to defend the show when everyone else, to a man, happens to think it's complete crap, is the same person who just happens to have been on the show several times and won money from it. I'm reminded of a certain Donnymid contestant.
It was more the Spit-Take-Of-I-Can't-Believe-Someone-Friggin'-Said-That.
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Ah, gotcha. Well, my point stands nonetheless; although I don't hold an opinion on PlayMania per se because I haven't seen it for myself, I'm not getting the impression that there's a lot to these shows in general.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'129516\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 05:47 PM\']
I'm not getting the impression that there's a lot to these shows in general.
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There isn't. It's clear the required crew is totally minimal (HPOA, screener, sound, switcher, prolly a Chyron Boy, although the producer might double up that role, and a couple of camerapeople) and that it's absolutely all about the profit from the text messages. In fact, all of this information we're finding out about people paying their money and then getting hung out of dry might be the downfall of the whole thing...legally, yeah, I'm sure they're covered, but word on that is gonna get out eventually. ESPECIALLY if the format takes off.
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In fact, all of this information we're finding out about people paying their money and then getting hung out of dry might be the downfall of the whole thing.
Wait, what? Not the "hung out to dry" typo, but how were people getting shafted by the show?
-Jason
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129521\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 08:57 PM\']
There isn't. It's clear the required crew is totally minimal (HPOA, screener, sound, switcher, prolly a Chyron Boy, although the producer might double up that role, and a couple of camerapeople) and that it's absolutely all about the profit from the text messages. In fact, all of this information we're finding out about people paying their money and then getting hung out of dry might be the downfall of the whole thing...legally, yeah, I'm sure they're covered, but word on that is gonna get out eventually. ESPECIALLY if the format takes off.
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With TBS trying this, and one of the stations in New York going for it, I wonder if this could catch on, and become a regionalized thing. Honestly, just add some green fabric and chroma-key some graphics, and you've got a show. Give away some station paraphanelia or local gift certificates.
/I think I'll pitch this to the GM tomorrow.
//Win-freakin-win, baby!
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'129523\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 09:12 PM\']
/I think I'll pitch this to the GM tomorrow.
//Win-freakin-win, baby!
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///Don't forget some hot babes to host the show
////And a BB&B sponsorship
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'129522\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 06:11 PM\']
Wait, what? Not the "hung out to dry" typo, but how were people getting shafted by the show?
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Okay, admittedly, that part is speculative. But we seem to be hearing a LOT of stories about how GSN is running their show to maximize text entries: manipulating games so that they go ON and ON and ON (like the StarFace incident), not putting players in the Waiting Lounge or whatever the hell that queue is called to encourage more people to text than normally would, even though they DO IN FACT have people waiting, they just want to represent that they don't so people think they can get in, that kind of thing. Nothing specifically illegal, but certainly deceptive enough that if word got out widely that they were doing it that way, there would be a backlash.
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Good old-fashioned fudging. I think, Chris, that what they do is delay the pulling of names, which is completely covered by the lack of rules. They say your text entry goes into a pool, but they never really say when the entries are drawn.
I also don't think the Top 5's are anything but surveys. No Hot Potato-style lists pulled from various sources. Just street savants.
Oh, and forever whatever my US$0.02 is worth, Playmania isn't bad, but not necessarily good.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'129531\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 07:16 PM\']
Good old-fashioned fudging. I think, Chris, that what they do is delay the pulling of names, which is completely covered by the lack of rules. They say your text entry goes into a pool, but they never really say when the entries are drawn.[/quote]
Right. Note that I said that everything they were doing was technically within the law. Never question that for a second. But you can't deny that the _illusion_ that is created by a) leaving the queue empty, and b) having Shandi or Horseface or whatever HPOA they have out there call attention to that while begging for texts, is that All Lines Are Open and This Is Your Big Chance To Get In. In fact the HPOA's SAY as much. "Look, the Player's Lounge is EMPTY!!! Text NOW!!!11!!ONE!!ELEVEN"
It's not illegal at all, but it _is_ disingenuous, and if this format receives enough attention that people start to care, it's gonna get them in trouble. Maybe not legal trouble, but when it's a game show, as Jack Barry can tell you, public perception is just as important.
I also don't think the Top 5's are anything but surveys. No Hot Potato-style lists pulled from various sources. Just street savants.
Sure, but that said, it was terribly irresponsible of them to see the results of the "Top TV Shows Starting With 'S'" poll, see that Starface made it (and I'm gonna assume the best and go with the idea that there was a big friggin' banner on the page the poll was presented on which influenced people, and not suggest that they flat-out hax0red the results), and clear that for air in a game in which they not only give away cash money, but charge most people a fee to enter. (Yes, you can enter online for free. Yes, I've also noticed that they call attention to that about as little as they possibly can.)
Good promotion? Yes. But INCREDIBLY irresponsible? Also yes.
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Right right right, sorry. I've been pretty vocal/active in the PlayMania thread about this stuff. The show used to be watchable, but now it's so stally it's barely good as an activity to win the money.
And for Joe, just another reason why the show was better in its infancy - they used to use top 5s based on actual information. Problem was, the games moved out fairly fast because a lot of the players were clearly Googling the answers.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129533\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 10:29 PM\']
But you can't deny that the _illusion_ that is created by a) leaving the queue empty, and b) having Shandi or Horseface or whatever HPOA ...[/quote]
I'd spent a minute or two, while reading other messages in this thread, trying to figure out that acronym--and I almost Googled it. But I think, now, from context, I've got three of the four words. What's the "H" stand for?
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Hawtt.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'129579\' date=\'Aug 29 2006, 07:39 AM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129533\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 10:29 PM\']
But you can't deny that the _illusion_ that is created by a) leaving the queue empty, and b) having Shandi or Horseface or whatever HPOA ...[/quote]
I'd spent a minute or two, while reading other messages in this thread, trying to figure out that acronym--and I almost Googled it. But I think, now, from context, I've got three of the four words. What's the "H" stand for?
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Hofstra.
Shandi and Mel might be from Missouri and London (respectively) but they know where to get a quality education...
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129526\' date=\'Aug 28 2006, 08:36 PM\']
Okay, admittedly, that part is speculative. But we seem to be hearing a LOT of stories about how GSN is running their show to maximize text entries: manipulating games so that they go ON and ON and ON (like the StarFace incident), not putting players in the Waiting Lounge or whatever the hell that queue is called to encourage more people to text than normally would, even though they DO IN FACT have people waiting, they just want to represent that they don't so people think they can get in, that kind of thing. Nothing specifically illegal, but certainly deceptive enough that if word got out widely that they were doing it that way, there would be a backlash.
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Not that I would support such a crusade, but if you have a local TV station that loves to do "60 Minutes"-type investigations -- especially during the upcoming November sweeps -- now is the time to "suggest" doing a story on "manipulative contests for fun & profit".
A couple of years ago, WJW/Fox 8 in Cleveland ran an investigation on our good friend Miss Cleo the psychic ("Call Me Now") lady, and went on location to prove that <gasp> she was a fake! Even pulled a surprise "Gotcha" while she was shopping at the local grocery store in Florida.
Speaking of fishy scams, there is always the evil Clear Channel Radio contests where each CC station calls the contest by a different name ("Cash Grab", "Beatle Bucks", "Song Of The Day",...) but yet it's all tied in to one and only one "Be the 100th *nationwide* caller at 1-888-SUCKERS to win $10,000 cash!!!" contest. Although callers are not forking over money to play, it's still a sucky contest.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'129591\' date=\'Aug 29 2006, 09:43 AM\']
Not that I would support such a crusade, but if you have a local TV station that loves to do "60 Minutes"-type investigations -- especially during the upcoming November sweeps -- now is the time to "suggest" doing a story on "manipulative contests for fun & profit".
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But wouldn't that be manipulating the ratings of the newscast?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'129594\' date=\'Aug 29 2006, 10:14 AM\']
But wouldn't that be manipulating the ratings of the newscast?
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It's not anything that news departments don't already do during the sweeps. It's not so much "how can we report the news and serve the public" but "how can I save my sorry ass from getting fired for not delivering our station eyeballs".
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'129594\' date=\'Aug 29 2006, 09:14 AM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'129591\' date=\'Aug 29 2006, 09:43 AM\']
Not that I would support such a crusade, but if you have a local TV station that loves to do "60 Minutes"-type investigations -- especially during the upcoming November sweeps -- now is the time to "suggest" doing a story on "manipulative contests for fun & profit".
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But wouldn't that be manipulating the ratings of the newscast?
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Perhaps, but I also think it is good for media outlets to warn or to show people when businesses or products are not on the up and up. Whether it is a restaurant with more rats in the kitchen than employees, e-mail scams, or deceptive for-profit companies.
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Okay, umm... wtf? They spend the first ten minutes of the show talking about how you enter and how the entry process works. And now we're back from break and we're treated to an episode of Bloopers so they can check to make sure their phone equipment is working right? This is pretty lame. I don't even think PlayMania had this much trouble their first week, and their a pretty small network compared to the giant TBS.
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Well, quite frankly, after the debacle that happened in the last five minutes of the show last night, I would have liked to seen them pull a You're In The Picture. Also, they really do need to make sure their system is working right. Two people during the show last night got cut off with the "sorry you weren't selected" message WHILE ON THE AIR. Sorry, but that was the straw that kept me from giving them a second chance tonight.
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This show... the word trainwreck comes to mind. They didn't have enough time last night to get the last player's answer, so they just assumed he said it and give him the money.
As a coincidental aside, the challenge is "name a 'queen'", and the last person to call in was named "Sharmell".
/All hail King Booker!
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Hahahahahaha.. I thought that was slightly funny myself. =D
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This reminds me of a video production class project from high school... except with a call-in system. And twice as bad.
Edit: Jm J. Bullock said it best... he said it's a "telethon from Hell".
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You know something is wrong when you have technical difficulties and get a F-list star (Despite I like Jim J. Bullock, I don't even think he's close to D-list) to co-host your second show.
This is sad, really. I'd have to agree with Jerry, this is a trainwreck.
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The only saving grace for this night is the cameo by Jm J. Bullock. I think he's effing hilarious.
[quote name=\'TonicBH\' post=\'129726\' date=\'Aug 30 2006, 01:48 AM\']You know something is wrong when you have technical difficulties and get a F-list star (Despite I like Jim J. Bullock, I don't even think he's close to D-list) to co-host your second show.[/quote]
Well, he's not a co-host, per se. He's just a guest they have. Yesterday they had Phyllis Diller and both nights the guests have "out-funnied" the hosts.
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Gee, comedians being funny. Who woulda thought?!
/Robot Chicken makes Diller cooler.
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The nuts on the TBS boards are going crazy. They've been claiming that they've been calling and emailing the FCC and the FTC claiming that they're doing illegal things and causing scams. Apparently, they've never seen PlayMania which is 100x smoother than MMM. However, they may have one legit beef. This is from some dude named walker575
The website [for online entry] was NOT working last night. If you viewed the page as SOURCE and know anything about HTML the Submit button did not have a TRUE value associated to it so it did NOTHING. The only way to get the damned thing to work was to hit ENTER not submit. And was this brought up on the show? I think not... This should have been made aware on the show to everyone... And it is considered gambling if there is no way to play for free so I can understand how many viewers saw this as fraudulent.
I don't know much about the legalities of stuff like this so I'm not going to comment, but this is kind of interesting.
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My Tivo grabbed last night's show. I lasted exactly one minute.
Clearly me and my Tivo need to have a little talk.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129821\' date=\'Aug 30 2006, 08:40 PM\']
My Tivo grabbed last night's show. I lasted exactly one minute.
Clearly me and my Tivo need to have a little talk.
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Poor Tivo...the Tivo just did its job. It wanted to bring you Madness and it gave you Madness.
As a Ted Turner "mark," I'm now ashamed with anything associated with Turner Broadcasting right now.
Before anyone jumps in, I know Turner hasn't had direct, if any, control of his properties in about a decade...I'm just a bit soured on the current TBS.
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[quote name=\'jalman\' post=\'129868\' date=\'Aug 30 2006, 10:01 PM\']
As a Ted Turner "mark," I'm now ashamed with anything associated with Turner Broadcasting right now.
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How about those Braves? :P
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'129872\' date=\'Aug 30 2006, 11:04 PM\']
[quote name=\'jalman\' post=\'129868\' date=\'Aug 30 2006, 10:01 PM\']
As a Ted Turner "mark," I'm now ashamed with anything associated with Turner Broadcasting right now.
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How about those Braves? :P
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How dare you~!! Next thing y'know, someone'll tell me the Thrashers will never make the playoffs.
*cries*
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[quote name=\'jalman\' post=\'129875\' date=\'Aug 30 2006, 08:06 PM\']
How dare you~!! Next thing y'know, someone'll tell me the Thrashers will never make the playoffs.
*cries*
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As a Sharks fan, I can tell you...it gets better. :)
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It could be worse. You could be living in Philadelphia. Trust me on that.
The internet was brought up exactly once on last night's show when someone emailed a complaint.
/It's never sunny in Philadelphia when you're a sports fan
//Oh, I have to do this.
If you viewed the page as SOURCE and know anything about HTML the Submit button did not have a TRUE value associated to it so it did NOTHING. The only way to get the damned thing to work was to hit ENTER not submit.
Well, there's yer problem! Of course, I doubt the webmasters would be that smart.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'129937\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 08:24 AM\']
It could be worse. You could be living in Philadelphia. Trust me on that.
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EVERY time (and I do mean EVERY time) the Flyers come to San Jose, there are reports of Flyer-related vandalism to the building the next day. I believe last time someone ripped some of the pictures of ex-Sharks off of the walls of the club level.
I repeat: this ONLY happens immediately after the Flyers have been in town.
Classy fans. I feel no sympathy for them whatsoever, and delight in their futility.
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[quote name=\'jalman\' post=\'129868\' date=\'Aug 30 2006, 10:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129821\' date=\'Aug 30 2006, 08:40 PM\']
My Tivo grabbed last night's show. I lasted exactly one minute.
Clearly me and my Tivo need to have a little talk.
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Poor Tivo...the Tivo just did its job. It wanted to bring you Madness and it gave you Madness.
As a Ted Turner "mark," I'm now ashamed with anything associated with Turner Broadcasting right now.
Before anyone jumps in, I know Turner hasn't had direct, if any, control of his properties in about a decade...I'm just a bit soured on the current TBS.
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Well, there is "The Closer." Thank eyeww, Kyra.
And that "World's Funniest Commercials" actually wasn't bad as clipfests go. I also admire Kevin Nealon's taste in women (that co-host is his wife). I also feel that if he had a show on HBO instead of Showtime, he wouldn't have had to host that show.
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Imitation is the sincerest form of television:
(Mediaweek) Twentieth Television will introduce a live program, My Games Fever, to all Fox owned-and-operated MyNetworkTV stations in December. Inspired by the UK genre of participation television, My Games Fever will consist of a multiple games format presented commercial free that will include text messaging and online interaction.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Oh, goodness. Well, this will be interesting. Truly, though, I don't think anything can surpass how well presented PlayMania is. Hell, I don't even know if we're getting a My station in my area.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'129959\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 02:15 PM\']
Oh, goodness. Well, this will be interesting. Truly, though, I don't think anything can surpass how well presented PlayMania is.
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I suppose it depends on how much money you win from it.
Hell, I don't even know if we're getting a My station in my area.
If your profile is correct, you are. WNEM is devoting one of its digital subchannels to MyNetworkTV.
A list of MyNetworkTV affiliates can be found here (http://\"http://www.mynetworktv.com/local_stations.html\").
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Yep, I just figured that out. I don't know if my DirecTV will carry it, however. I don't know why they wouldn't, but you never know.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'129959\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 11:15 AM\']
Truly, though, I don't think anything can surpass how well presented PlayMania is.
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<splort>
Gaah, that was hot coffee that time!
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129968\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 01:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'129959\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 11:15 AM\']
Truly, though, I don't think anything can surpass how well presented PlayMania is.
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<splort>
Gaah, that was hot coffee that time!
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Sue. :)
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'129970\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 11:51 AM\']
Sue. :)
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I didn't get any there.
/not that there's anything wrong with that
//<boing> <pop> <click>
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Well, there goes another keyboard..
Chris' Weekly Splort Count:[/i] 3
Chris' Weekly Splort Count Caused by Chad:[/i] 2
But, honestly, you can't tell me for being a low-budget "text-and-lose" show, the smoothness, presentation and delivery of the host and the show in general isn't good. (And my winnings aren't shifting my opinion - I've liked the show since day one. I'll leave it up to you to decide if that's a good or bad thing.)
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'129975\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 12:04 PM\']
But, honestly, you can't tell me for being a low-budget "text-and-lose" show, the smoothness, presentation and delivery of the host and the show in general isn't good.
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Yeah, I really can. The games are stupid, the hosts' vamping is annoying, she couldn't BE less sincere when she's talking on the phone with some of these people, and the VomitCam(tm) they use drives me up the wall.
It was crappe before the knock-offs started cropping up, and just because the knock-offs suck MORE does not mean it got good all of a sudden.
You're entitled to your opinion, it just makes me spit-take because near as I can tell said opinion isn't based in any kind of reality.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'129975\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 02:04 PM\']
the smoothness, presentation and delivery of the host
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So that's what the kids are calling tits nowadays...
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129972\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 02:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'129970\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 11:51 AM\']Sue. :)
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I didn't get any there.
/not that there's anything wrong with that
//<boing> <pop> <click>
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That was wrong on so many levels, guys.
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'129976\' date=\'Aug 31 2006, 03:58 PM\']It was crappe before the knock-offs started cropping up, and just because the knock-offs suck MORE does not mean it got good all of a sudden.[/quote]/editing other people's posts is fun!
//so are slashies
///whosamasquash
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Meanwhile, it should be pointed out that Call-in-and-Lose Show No. 3 will be initially only on the Fox-owned My affils, which are:
WWOR--NY
KCOP--LA
WPWR--Chicago
KDFI--Dallas
WDCA--Washington
KTXH--Houston
KUTP--Phoenix
WFTC/KFTC--Minneapolis-St. Paul
WRBW--Orlando
WUTB--Baltimore
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I think you forgot WPHL in Philadelphia.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'130137\' date=\'Sep 2 2006, 02:15 AM\']
I think you forgot WPHL in Philadelphia.
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No. WPHL is owned by Tribune, not Fox.