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Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: --Richard on August 21, 2006, 12:15:33 AM
If you haven't heard this yet...GSN will be airing an ABC Password episode. As you can tell by my signature, it airs Septmember 10th at 3am ET. GSN is reported to possess the Password All-Stars finale. Other episodes, including some from 1975 are at the UCLA archives..or we could see one from Feb. 1972 or Oct. 1973. Nonetheless, this is great news since ABC Password is a rarity now.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: dzinkin on August 21, 2006, 12:22:39 AM
[quote name=\'--Richard\' post=\'128278\' date=\'Aug 21 2006, 12:15 AM\']
If you haven't heard this yet...GSN will be airing an ABC Password episode. As you can tell by my signature, it airs Septmember 10th at 3am ET. GSN is reported to possess the Password All-Stars finale. Other episodes, including some from 1975 are at the UCLA archives..or we could see one from Feb. 1972 or Oct. 1973. Nonetheless, this is great news since ABC Password is a rarity now.
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Actually, we already heard about it (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=11198&view=findpost&p=127342\").  Before you joined our forum, in fact.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: TheFlea on August 23, 2006, 11:13:31 AM
The info that's thus far available, confirmed from GSN sources, about the episode that will air:

-They don't know which episode it will be yet.
-They have three in their archives, one with Martin Milner & Shelia MacRae, one
with Jack Klugman & Brett Somers and the finale.
-Several others are out there but Fremantle misplaced them.

Not sure if all of this has already been divulged, though I imagine it's at least been speculated (I know that the Somers/Klugman ep. was known to be among the possibilities since clips of it aired on VH1).

-Flea
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: tvmitch on August 23, 2006, 11:34:22 AM
Please, please...no finale. If this is for the fans, most of us have seen that. Even though it would be nice to have a first-gen copy, the Somers/Klugman ep would be a bigger treat.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: tvwxman on August 23, 2006, 11:36:24 AM
[quote name=\'--Richard\' post=\'128278\' date=\'Aug 21 2006, 12:15 AM\']
If you haven't heard this yet...GSN will be airing an ABC Password episode. As you can tell by my signature, it airs Septmember 10th at 3am ET. GSN is reported to possess the Password All-Stars finale. Other episodes, including some from 1975 are at the UCLA archives..or we could see one from Feb. 1972 or Oct. 1973. Nonetheless, this is great news since ABC Password is a rarity now.
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How long has it been on your signature? You know, we can read. Please stop being a wannabe GSN-flak.

Better suggestion kid (and one that's already been made to you)...read more, post less, learn more.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Ian Wallis on August 23, 2006, 03:06:16 PM
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Please, please...no finale. If this is for the fans, most of us have seen that. Even though it would be nice to have a first-gen copy, the Somers/Klugman ep would be a bigger treat.

I agree to that.  I'd really like to see one with the orange set and the original theme.

If GSN does have three, why do they say on their press release that the episode airing will be the only surviving ABC ep?

Oh well...
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on August 24, 2006, 12:34:54 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'128686\' date=\'Aug 23 2006, 02:06 PM\']
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Please, please...no finale. If this is for the fans, most of us have seen that. Even though it would be nice to have a first-gen copy, the Somers/Klugman ep would be a bigger treat.

I agree to that.  I'd really like to see one with the orange set and the original theme.
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No offense to either of you gents, but as someone who doesn't reguarly tape trade and has a rather small collection...I don't care if they air the finale or not....it will still be a treat.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on August 24, 2006, 01:38:05 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'128912\' date=\'Aug 24 2006, 12:34 PM\']No offense to either of you gents, but as someone who doesn't reguarly tape trade and has a rather small collection...I don't care if they air the finale or not....it will still be a treat.[/quote]
Thing about the finale is that it's not really representative of that era of Password.  It was that wacky qualifying format left over from their All-Stars structure (and set).  While fans ought to enjoy whataver episode they show us, if they have a choice, it seems likely that they would choose to give us one of the more traditional epsiodes.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: cweaver on August 24, 2006, 01:43:31 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'128912\' date=\'Aug 24 2006, 11:34 AM\']
No offense to either of you gents, but as someone who doesn't reguarly tape trade and has a rather small collection...I don't care if they air the finale or not....it will still be a treat.
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Wow I can't believe I'm actually going to say the next five words...

I agree with you, Modor.

I have a small collection myself and don't have the 1975 finale either.

Only thing is, everyone else who has been trading for some time has those two "blue set" eps and no one that I've seen, not a single, solitary trader (watch someone pipe right up with five names and act like I'm an idiot for not knowing), who has an "orange set" ep.  Choosing between the two I would certainly go orange and worry about blue later.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 02:03:42 AM
Just speaking for myself, and my own self-centered collecting interests, I don't want to see them reair the finale. :)
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2006, 04:00:18 AM
[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'130136\' date=\'Sep 1 2006, 11:03 PM\']
Just speaking for myself, and my own self-centered collecting interests, I don't want to see them reair the finale. :)
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Congratulations on making yourself look like a complete dink, then.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 04:20:49 PM
Oh come off it, if you can't take a little lighthearted posting in which I freely admit I want to see an ABC episode that isn't one I've had in my collection for a decade (which is not an unreasonable sentiment), then you only show what an obnoxious jerk you are.

Looks like I found out the hard way why I stayed away from this place for three years.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2006, 04:47:36 PM
[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'130200\' date=\'Sep 2 2006, 01:20 PM\']
Oh come off it, if you can't take a little lighthearted posting in which I freely admit I want to see an ABC episode that isn't one I've had in my collection for a decade (which is not an unreasonable sentiment), then you only show what an obnoxious jerk you are.
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Then I apologize for misinterpreting your statement, because I read it as "I don't want to see a "rare" episode become not-rare, thereby lowering the trade value of the one I have." You're right, your intentions are much less cynical than I thought, and for that I am truly sorry.
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Looks like I found out the hard way why I stayed away from this place for three years.
Oh, Christ. If you're gonna play THAT card, feel free to start staying away again. That's SO tiresome.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 04:52:17 PM
Not so tiresome when you consider the junk I had to put up with on atgs in those days and then on the first day I decide to come back to game show posting, I find myself ambushed by a post that only brought back some very unpleasant memories.

I only want to see something other than the finale because I want to see something *different*.    That is the simplest of explanations and why anyone in their right mind would interpret it otherwise is beyond me.    Good Lord, the last ABC Password has been a dirt common item on the trade circuit since 1994 if anyone had a clue as to what really goes on.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Don Howard on September 02, 2006, 04:58:01 PM
Of course, there are people like me who have never seen the last episode of that version who wouldn't mind seeing it--be it for the tape collection or no.
I must learn to control my selfish ways.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2006, 05:03:19 PM
[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'130203\' date=\'Sep 2 2006, 01:52 PM\']
I only want to see something other than the finale because I want to see something *different*.    That is the simplest of explanations and why anyone in their right mind would interpret it otherwise is beyond me.
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No, considering some of the selfish chuckleheads we have around here who make THE most unreasonable requests in the name of their Almighty Tape Collections, I don't think it's an unreasonable interpretation at all. I apologized for my error when I discovered I'd made one. If that's not enough for you, well, then, tough.
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Good Lord, the last ABC Password has been a dirt common item on the trade circuit since 1994 if anyone had a clue as to what really goes on.
Or, indeed, don't participate in the trading circuit. Like an awful lot of us. Certainly I've never seen it, and I'd rather see an episode in that format than one of the tired old ones in a format I've seen a billion times before and really honestly can't stand.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 05:13:45 PM
Well that doesn't speak well of certain people in the trade circuit.   I have never adopted a perspective of I will accept only a certain narrow thing for a particular item or any other item someone is potentially interested in.     It's like in the sports realm where I unearthed a rare college football game despite the fact I have almost no interest in college football.    But when the college football buffs who I knew would love the game came calling and could only offer other CFB games, I didn't say "call me back only when you've got baseball to offer."

Same thing with game shows.    If the guy only has a bunch of Dating Games at his disposal I'll try to accomodate even though I despise all things Barris.     That kind of policy should be the norm for all unless they're the ones who say, paid a thousand dollars to get a copy of something out of an archive, and want to wait to recoup partially some of the expense they incurred in some way by waiting to trade for something equally rare.  

ABC Password is not represented in the pre-All Stars format, and I want to see an episode in that format.    When I already have the last episode with its original commercials, I'm not getting much at all when I see it on GSN other than slightly improved picture.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 02, 2006, 05:19:03 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'130202\' date=\'Sep 2 2006, 04:47 PM\']
You're right, your intentions are much less cynical than I thought, and for that I am truly sorry.
AND
Oh, Christ. If you're gonna play THAT card, feel free to start staying away again. That's SO tiresome.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'130206\' date=\'Sep 2 2006, 05:03 PM\']
I apologized for my error when I discovered I'd made one.
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If that's not enough for you, well, then, tough.
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Chris, we've really got to work on your "apologies".  Perhaps, you know, something that goes "I'm sorry" and then DOESN'T turn right around and launch some separate attack in the very same post?
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2006, 05:54:09 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'130210\' date=\'Sep 2 2006, 02:19 PM\']
Chris, we've really got to work on your "apologies".  Perhaps, you know, something that goes "I'm sorry" and then DOESN'T turn right around and launch some separate attack in the very same post?
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Oh, crap. You yourself have said many times how annoying it is when someone plays the "now I know why I don't post here" card. I apologized, and he came back with more attitude. Certainly I can take it, but if he wants me to genuflect or beg for his forgiveness or something, well, no. Particularly to a guy who's crowning achievement on ATGS was the insistence that the incident that got Opie & Anthony fired from terrestrial radio was specifically a slam on Catholicism (http://\"http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.game-shows/tree/browse_frm/thread/2fd47d8d8b4cf3a5/a6cb333220e000b9?rnum=11&hl=en&_done=%2Fgroup%2Falt.tv.game-shows%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F2fd47d8d8b4cf3a5%2F301795c03068703e%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3D%26rnum%3D2%26hl%3Den%26#doc_cd29a4a9fd0e0d61\").
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 06:10:13 PM
I didn't say anything further in my last post, but if you're going to take further shots at me, then all bets are then off.

I could care less what other people have done  about "what card they played" because I don't frigging know what they've done here to get you riled up for a reason that has not a whit to do with what I posted, and which you were too dense to figure out was the reason behind that post in the first place (it takes a very dense mind to see the post I made with a smiley face and come up with the paranoic interpretation you did).     When I spend three years away from game show forums and then come back and decide to rekindle some fun, and then I find a snotty post of the kind you made for an uncalled for reason that only reminds me of the conduct of certain people I've come across in the past, believe me I'm not going to react to it placidly.

The fault for any unpleasantness in this thread is entirely your own, and I think you'd best be a man and confine your remarks to admitting your responsibility and not fuel the fires any longer in a pathetic attempt to let yourself off the hook.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 06:17:39 PM
Gee Mr. Whiny, I like to think all the effort I slaved away doing a B/W Overnight Guide on ATGS on a nightly basis for many months says a lot more about my "crowning achievements" at ATGS then registering a perfectly legit POV about a couple of unfunny shock-jocks.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2006, 06:18:42 PM
Right, I'm done. You can keep digging if you like.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 06:20:03 PM
And you're still a jerk.    Period.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: J.R. on September 02, 2006, 07:09:55 PM
You know, when Mr. Lemon asked me for forgiveness (even though he didn't have to and was in the right), I just accepted it. In fact, my respect for the man increased tenfold when he offered the apology. It takes a lot of GUTS to do something like that. It takes just as much guts to admit you were wrong (as I did).

Chris Lemon is not a jerk, he's just honest and speaks what's on his mind. I've had a private conversation with Mr. Lemon, and I can tell you, when you don't try to piss him off, the man is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

Sorry you can't handle the truth.

/No, he did not pay me to say that. :)
-Joe R.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 02, 2006, 07:30:24 PM
[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'130209\' date=\'Sep 2 2006, 04:13 PM\']
Well that doesn't speak well of certain people in the trade circuit. [/quote]
How many people on here are "active" in the trade circuit?  I want to say it's less than 100.

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ABC Password is not represented in the pre-All Stars format, and I want to see an episode in that format.    When I already have the last episode with its original commercials, I'm not getting much at all when I see it on GSN other than slightly improved picture.
'Cause it's all about you, right?
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 07:31:22 PM
THe only person who can't handle the truth is Mr. Lemon (and I use that title loosely), since he decided he just had to deflect his stupidity with another cheap shot and when he was being taken to task for that by someone else, then decided that he was going to start using his personal prejudice over the fact that I once had an unflattering thing to say about Opie and Anthony as his excuse for not being a person of integrity.

The only time the word gut belongs in a sentence to describe him is when the gut is followed by less.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 07:33:33 PM
If I choose to venture a legitimate opinion that I would like to see a different episode of ABC Password after 12 years of seeing the same three over and over again, that is my business, and my perogative, as it is for anyone else who feels likewise.     And for anyone to turn that legitimate POV into something supposedly horrific as you would evidently choose to do, doesn't exactly speak well of you either.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 02, 2006, 08:09:11 PM
[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'130226\' date=\'Sep 2 2006, 06:33 PM\']
And for anyone to turn that legitimate POV into something supposedly horrific as you would evidently choose to do, doesn't exactly speak well of you either.
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That view is legitimate in your opinion.  However, you said:
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Good Lord, the last ABC Password has been a dirt common item on the trade circuit since 1994 if anyone had a clue as to what really goes on.
So, because I haven't been on the trade circuit since '94, and I'm no longer active on it (got burned twice), I'm less informed than you?  Yeah, whatever.  In my opinion, you come off very poorly...and from what I can tell, you're the one causing the friction:
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And you're still a jerk.
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Gee Mr. Whiny
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then you only show what an obnoxious jerk you are.
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THe only person who can't handle the truth is Mr. Lemon (and I use that title loosely),
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and I think you'd best be a man
FWIW, through all these disagreements, Chris hasn't taken any cheap shots at you, and you've taken five at him.  Granted, me and him rarely agree...but IMO, you're coming off as a two-year old in need of a pacifier.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 08:27:02 PM
#1-It is being very ill-informed if one person decides to take an innocuous comment with a smiley about not wanting to see the last Password reaired because he makes the assumption that somehow it's for a sinister reason.     Then of course, there's the simple idiocy of going for the negative assumption in the first place to make a cheap shot as he did.

#2-I referred to him as Mr. Whiny, only because he said, which you so conveniently neglected to quote, that I wasn't worth making amends to because of what I said on ATGS five years ago about a couple of people I think are anti-Catholic bigots that he said was the sum total of what I did there.     The fact that this was a false characterization of what I did on ATGS, evidently mattered not a whit either in your eyes it would seem.     He was the one whining at Matt for taking him to task, and then decided to unload on me once again after I had made a posting in which I wasn't commenting on his behavior any longer.  

#3-You then go back to the "obnoxious jerk" comment from my first justifiably angry reaction after he was the one who unloaded on me for a phony reason as it turned out, so I don't need to defend that one.    I was justifiably upset by what he did, and I'm not about to apologize for being angry in that instance.

In short, your characterization of how this exchange then unfolded is dishonest.    And there is nothing more dishonest than your trying to state that he never took a cheap shot at me.     And that sir, is my opinion, and one I'm sticking to with no regrets.   It that troubles you,  Mr. Sanctimony with the pornographic metaphor for a signature, well then tough.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 02, 2006, 08:30:19 PM
[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'130231\' date=\'Sep 2 2006, 07:27 PM\']
The fact that this was a false characterization of what I did on ATGS, evidently mattered not a whit either in your eyes it would seem. [/quote]
I have not one clue what you're talking about.  I have more important things to worry about than infighting on defunct newsgroups.
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And there is nothing more dishonest than your trying to state that he never took a cheap shot at me.
I'd really be interested to see where you think Chris took a cheap shot at you.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: clemon79 on September 02, 2006, 08:30:42 PM
<looking down>

Ya know, that hole only needs to be six feet deep...
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 02, 2006, 08:35:34 PM
"I have not one clue what you're talking about. I have more important things to worry about than infighting on defunct newsgroups."

English translation:   Facts are irrelevant to you when they don't suit your purpose.
Title: ABC Password episode...
Post by: dzinkin on September 02, 2006, 08:57:52 PM
Chris: I'm in agreement with Matt; your apology left something to be desired.

Eric: mistake or no mistake, inadequate apology or not. you have blown this way out of proportion.

Mark: your intentions may have been good, but all you've ended up doing is prolonging the agony.

ENOUGH.

(And if anyone pulls a Lemonjello, say hello to the Isolation Booth.)