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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: chad1m on August 20, 2006, 01:00:04 AM
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So, this is what Alex from BuzzerBlog (http://\"http://www.buzzerblog.com\") is reporting for the 2006-07 season of Wheel of Fortune:
- Anytime someone hits the Jackpot space, $500 is added to the jackpot, along with an added $500 for each consonant correct to the player's total.
- A new wedge/token is debuting: Wild Card. If a contestant lands on it and gets a letter right, they can pick it up and use it to receive an extra letter on any turn. The best idea is to obviously save it for a big money amount. However, if a contestant still has it at the end of the main game and they move on to the bonus round, they use it to gain an extra consonant in the bonus round.
How do you feel about these changes? I personally like them. I've always thought it was lame that the jackpot space awarded nothing even if you got 6 R's. I think the Wild Card idea is brilliant, too. It adds an extra twist to the game, along with an extra strategy to wait for the bonus round.
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I'd already heard about the Jackpot space change, and I'm all for it. I always found it really annoying that someone could land on the Jackpot space and basically earn nothing at all for a correct letter guess (especially when the contestant had no cash in the first place and/or it was too early to have a reasonable shot at solving). I think $250 a letter would have been fine, though — $500 seems kind of high. (But then again all the dollar values on this show seem kind of high...)
Wild Card... just sounds like a less confusing variant of Double Play.
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[quote name=\'WilliamPorygon\' post=\'128158\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 12:23 AM\']
Wild Card... just sounds like a less confusing variant of Double Play.
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Not merely less confusing. It sounds to me like you use it when you call the consonant. By contrast, the Double Play was used before the spin.
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'128160\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 01:33 AM\']
Not merely less confusing. It sounds to me like you use it when you call the consonant. By contrast, the Double Play was used before the spin.
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Right, which is one reason why it's less confusing. None of this business of using it only to have it wasted on a bankrupt, or having it given back to you because you tried to use it and hit a prize.
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The "Wild Card" sounds like a great addition. I bet very few people use it in the main game, and hold it until the Bonus Round. Nice to see how a decision made in normal gameplay can help you in the bonus round.
Jackpot change makes sense. Sucks to pick a letter and get nothing for it.
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The Jackpot change sounds like a good idea. $500 seems a bit high but given Sony usually has millions of dollars invested on this show, naturally $500 seems like a perfect fit.
As for the Wikd Card wedge, what took them so long to come up with that idea? I wouldn't be surprised if 9 out of every 10 players save that wedge for the bonus round where you get an extra constanant upon its usage. The extra constanant does add a nice twist since most contestants don't always pick the right ones. I only wish there wouldv'e been a choice to get either an extra vowel or constanant was applied when the Wild Card wedge is used in the bonus round, but the extra constanant one is good for now.
Does anyone know what the Wild Card wedge looks like & in what round it first appears?
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I like the additions...in a way.
The jackpot space really needed that cash influx. However, $500 is too much. $250 would be just fine. But let me understand this correctly: contestant lands on jackpot, calls a letter, gets $500 times the number of letters AND the opportunity at the jackpot?
Wild Card....intresting. I like it only for the strategy involved. I'm seeing it come into play in round 1 and staying on the wheel until hit.
And the extra rule with the wild card that allows you to use it in the bonus round? Don't limit it to just consonants. Let them take whatever letter they want.
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I have a feeling with these changes we'll see a pretty good and/or intresting 24th(?) season. I can't wait to see all-new strategies pop-up with these changes.
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I think the change seems asinine. The game has been watered down enough the last few years...this only compromises it further.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'128182\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 10:44 AM\']
I think the change seems asinine. The game has been watered down enough the last few years...this only compromises it further.
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Even though I'm not surprised that you think something is asinine, I agree. I know the show is all about gimmicks, but that wild card mess seems to complicate a rather simple game.
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The Jackpot adjustment: fine by me, though at the same time, I didn't have a problem with how it worked before. At least people can get paid off if they call a letter that appears a bunch when they do land on it. I heard rumors about this change a little while back, and thought the same then.
This "Wild Card" wedge is new to me. Personally, my jury is still out, I'll have to wait to see how it works on the TV. From a very preliminary standpoint, seeing how thick most of the people on Wheel are now, I wouldn't be surprised if the entire concept simply eludes them, or, they don't realize the maximum potential it could hold. I'm also getting images of people landing on it and immediately start calling out 2 letters right then, or a person who calls out two letters while holding it, but then says, "Oh, I thought I could always call two letters with it." That'll make for a sloppy editing job...
Also, I believe having the opportunity to pick 5 letters total in the bonus round is too much. If they're playing for up to $100,000, MAKE THEM EARN IT! Some puzzles I think will now be WAY too easy with an extra letter thrown in. There is no reason why I think one of the best basic formats for a bonus round in TV history had to be fiddled with AT ALL at this point, especially with them bringing the concept of a "Wheel of Fortune" into the bonus round like they did (and I thought should have some time ago)...
One of the reasons I've loved WOF is its simplicity: Hangman, one spin, one consonant, vowels if you need them, spin again... The "Wild Card" seems to overcomplicate things. Maybe my thought will change when I see it in action. Now, if they brought 3 day champions or the Friday Finals back, then I would stand up and applaud. But, I'm beating a dead horse with that thought, at this point...
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Damn...another season and STILL no shopping! >:o
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Changes. This is what has turned me off of Wheel in the last few years. Changes. Nothing more than that. Changes. (Gee, I sound like a broken record).
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[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'128192\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 12:14 PM\']
(Gee, I sound like a broken record).
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Record? You mean those large black CDs you needed a needle and spinny thing to play? :-P
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Harry Friedman's mandate for years now, on both Wheel and Jeopardy, has been to make little changes like these to keep the shows "fresh" or "interesting" or whatever adjective he's using. While some purists might grumble, neither show, not even Jeopardy, is designed for the purist. They're designed for the average viewer, and as many viewers as possible. I think viewers like to see these little changes in their favorite shows, and the ratings would seem to suggest the same.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'128182\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 11:44 AM\']
I think the change seems asinine. The game has been watered down enough the last few years...this only compromises it further.
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I have resolved to take everything Mark says as the opposite of what will really happen.
Therefore, I think this isn't a bad idea (at least in theory).
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'128195\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 12:55 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'128182\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 11:44 AM\']
I think the change seems asinine. The game has been watered down enough the last few years...this only compromises it further.
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I have resolved to take everything Mark says as the opposite of what will really happen.
Therefore, I think this isn't a bad idea (at least in theory).
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Hmm.
Other people don't like the change either, yet, you single me out.
Go figure.
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$500 Jackpot space: This sounds like a good overdue idea. As mentioned before, right now, many players will hit the Jackpot space and score nothing for finding 5 T's. Earning $500 a pop sounds just right.
Wild Card: This sounds like it could be confusing to everyone, both viewers and players. And its name does not describe what it does. "Wild Card" sounds like you can choose something or make something up, but what exactly? However, the concept of earning an extra letter in the bonus round is great. If we kept this simply as a prize wedge labelled "Extra Bonus Letter," then we've got something...and certainly easier to explain. And yes, make it the player's choice: either a consonant or a vowel.
-Dean
(who may not make it to see the Wheelmobile next month in RI)
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As I heard, the wild card looks like whatever the last slide was in the old Joker's Wild, font wise I heard. I've never seen TJW beyond a few clips, so I have no idea. Go figure: Sony does a new TJW, and they take the font from the old TJW for the Wild Card.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'128196\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 02:41 PM\']Hmm.
Other people don't like the change either, yet, you single me out.
Go figure.[/quote]
Well, you seem to be single-outable.
The Wild Card seems to me like Super Millionaire's Double Dip, since you can take two shots. The similarities end when you have your first choice correct.
I had always thought that the Jackpot should go up $250 for every time a vowel was bought or a non-cash space was hit (including Bankrupt, Lose-A-Turn, prizes, etc). A Jackpot landing should be a little more because it's the Jackpot. The minimum of $1,000 for a correct letter does seem fair.
My main gripe is that there are way too many different categories that start to make less and less sense.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'128196\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 02:41 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'128195\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 12:55 PM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'128182\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 11:44 AM\']
I think the change seems asinine. The game has been watered down enough the last few years...this only compromises it further.
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I have resolved to take everything Mark says as the opposite of what will really happen.
Therefore, I think this isn't a bad idea (at least in theory).
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Hmm.
Other people don't like the change either, yet, you single me out.
Go figure.
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No one's gotten as pissy as you and said anything about the quality of the game being compromised. Cram it.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'128203\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 12:12 PM\']
No one's gotten as pissy as you and said anything about the quality of the game being compromised. Cram it.
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You watch your mouth. I'll agree that Mark does have a habit of being pessimistic, but when you start throwing around those "Cram it"s, you reduce the conversation here to the lowest level possible. If you want to lodge personal attacks against Mark, or anyone, do it in PM and spare the rest of us the nonsense.
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' post=\'128204\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 03:35 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'128203\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 12:12 PM\']
No one's gotten as pissy as you and said anything about the quality of the game being compromised. Cram it.
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You watch your mouth. I'll agree that Mark does have a habit of being pessimistic, but when you start throwing around those "Cram it"s, you reduce the conversation here to the lowest level possible. If you want to lodge personal attacks against Mark, or anyone, do it in PM and spare the rest of us the nonsense.
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1) I didn't say anything bad. I told Mark to shut his mouth. I'm sorry if the way I chose to say it "offended" you.
2) I don't know how what I said was a "personal attack" either.
3) I'm not going to take orders from a 16-year old who jumps at the chance to compare this board to ATGS whenever possible.
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Wow, I now see you in a totally different light. There has been lots of people on these boards, but I have never heard anyone say "cram it" to someone else here. That was really uncalled for, just about as much as what some of Mark says is uncalled for. If you'd rather cram it for him, the ignore feature is there for a reason.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'128205\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 12:44 PM\']
1) 2) 3)
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Dude, you're so wrong here it isn't even funny. I'd advise you to cut your losses, because I'd wager if you don't they'll be cut for you.
(I fully expect your response to contain more vitrol. The difference is, I can absolutely take it. You wanna dig your grave deeper, hey, go right ahead.)
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'128205\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 12:44 PM\']
1) I didn't say anything bad. I told Mark to shut his mouth. I'm sorry if the way I chose to say it "offended" you.[/quote]
There are less brash ways to tell someone to be quiet than "Cram it."
2) I don't know how what I said was a "personal attack" either.
What did you think it was then? Where I come from, telling someone to "cram it" is a sure way to get your ass kicked.
3) I'm not going to take orders from a 16-year old who jumps at the chance to compare this board to ATGS whenever possible.
First of all, I used the phrase "to the lowest level possible" specifically to AVOID comparing the board to ATGS.
Second of all, when was the last time I compared this board to ATGS?
Third of all...well, if you're going to bring age into this, there's no sense in me trying to talk you out of it. You've probably skimmed past this whole post already. I will say that that is pretty sad, however.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'128207\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 03:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'128205\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 12:44 PM\']
1) 2) 3)
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Dude, you're so wrong here it isn't even funny. I'd advise you to cut your losses, because I'd wager if you don't they'll be cut for you.
(I fully expect your response to contain more vitrol. The difference is, I can absolutely take it. You wanna dig your grave deeper, hey, go right ahead.)
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Sometimes things are different than what you expect.
(In other words, you're right, and I will cut my losses and move on. I've caused more trouble than it was worth.)
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I like the idea of "Wild Card" a lot. But then, I like the recently-departed Aussie bonus game, where the number of consonants you got was determined by your main-game score. If the production team thinks Wild Card makes the game too easy, they have two choices: ditch it or come up with tougher puzzles. But let's give it a chance, shall we? After all, we're (many of us) looking forward to whatever new game TPiR comes up with; why should we bitch about a WOF tweak?
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'128213\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 03:02 PM\']
After all, we're (many of us) looking forward to whatever new game TPiR comes up with; why should we bitch about a WOF tweak?
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Speaking of which...isn't there a new game that is supposed to debut early in the new season? Does anyone have any details?
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'128213\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 04:02 PM\']
After all, we're (many of us) looking forward to whatever new game TPiR comes up with; why should we bitch about a WOF tweak?
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Because lately, some of the tweaks (if not most of the tweaks) that they've made haven't helped the game whatsoever. Too many tossups (two is enough), stupid graphics, Prize Puzzles...you name it, people have probably bitched about it, and usually with good reason.
As for me, the only thing that really is going to work best is the Jackpot space tweak. I think Wild Card can work, but I'd have to see it in practice to get a good idea of how it's gonna work.
(And I'm sure there'll be a fair amount of bitching about the new TPIR game when it comes out as well.)
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'128155\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 01:00 AM\']
- A new wedge/token is debuting: Wild Card. If a contestant lands on it and gets a letter right, they can pick it up and use it to receive an extra letter on any turn. The best idea is to obviously save it for a big money amount. However, if a contestant still has it at the end of the main game and they move on to the bonus round, they use it to gain an extra consonant in the bonus round.
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Well, it's about damn time Harry started stealing ideas from the greatest game show ever to air in 1991, "Trump Card".
Matt (who will refrain from bitching until he hears Charlie say "Tonight's Wild Card is sponsored by Taco Bell's "Wild" Burrito! For a walk on the wild side with beans and cheese, cross the border to Taco Bell!")
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'128199\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 11:53 AM\']
As I heard, the wild card looks like whatever the last slide was in the old Joker's Wild, font wise I heard. I've never seen TJW beyond a few clips, so I have no idea. Go figure: Sony does a new TJW, and they take the font from the old TJW for the Wild Card.
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I will presume your source means the top image from this page:
http://www.gameshow-galaxy.net/TJW1.htm (http://\"http://www.gameshow-galaxy.net/TJW1.htm\")
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'128215\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 04:06 PM\']Speaking of which...isn't there a new game that is supposed to debut early in the new season? Does anyone have any details?[/quote]
As a matter of fact, there are some details. It's called Stack the Deck, and I forgot who made it, but I know it's none of the usual suspects (Roger, Fingers, Bob). I want to say Bart, but I can't swear to that.
But that's for another thread.
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Since it's already been brought up here, yes, Bart created it. I also know it's a car game. And I don't know anything else about it...actually, I try to avoid knowing a whole lot of things about new pricing games before I've seen them on the air.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'128213\' date=\'Aug 20 2006, 03:02 PM\']
I like the idea of "Wild Card" a lot. But then, I like the recently-departed Aussie bonus game, where the number of consonants you got was determined by your main-game score.
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One slight issue with the idea of adopting the Aussie-version: there are 21 consonants in the alphabet, including Q, Z, and X. You score virtually $42K in the main game (from my understanding its $2000 for every consonant), and that might give you an automatic win. ("might" because someone can totally screw it up).
Both ideas ("Jackpot" and "Wild Card") are really interesting, and I can't wait to see it in practice. Its better than putting on a 4th toss up...
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[quote name=\'Strikerz04\' post=\'128352\' date=\'Aug 21 2006, 12:27 PM\']
One slight issue with the idea of adopting the Aussie-version: there are 21 consonants in the alphabet, including Q, Z, and X. You score virtually $42K in the main game (from my understanding its $2000 for every consonant), and that might give you an automatic win. ("might" because someone can totally screw it up).
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It would also never happen because they don't use the grossly inflated TDV's that we do.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'128354\' date=\'Aug 21 2006, 02:38 PM\'] [quote name=\'Strikerz04\' post=\'128352\' date=\'Aug 21 2006, 12:27 PM\']
One slight issue with the idea of adopting the Aussie-version: there are 21 consonants in the alphabet, including Q, Z, and X. You score virtually $42K in the main game (from my understanding its $2000 for every consonant), and that might give you an automatic win. ("might" because someone can totally screw it up).
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It would also never happen because they don't use the grossly inflated TDV's that we do. [/quote]
Nor do they multiply what you spun with how many of that letter are on the board.
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[quote name=\'WhammyPower\' post=\'128355\' date=\'Aug 21 2006, 12:41 PM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'128354\' date=\'Aug 21 2006, 02:38 PM\']
It would also never happen because they don't use the grossly inflated TDV's that we do. [/quote]
Nor do they multiply what you spun with how many of that letter are on the board.
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Oh, good point, forgot about that vital little bit.
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I think the only way the US Wheel could adapt that bonus letter policy would be to tie it into the number of puzzles won. (Like maybe one extra letter per 2 puzzles) Considering there are at least 7 played every night, that's not as bad as you think.
To be honest, anything that could potentially increase the number of bonus round wins is a good thing.
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But if they increase the number of bonus round wins, then they're going to have to decrease the extreme dollar amounts in the main game (lowering the values of both sides of the mystery wedges, not setting up the wheel for the speed round so that Pat's spin strength will put it on $5,000 every other time, etc.). And they clearly don't want to do that.
Any contestant who has the Wild Card and lands on the top dollar value is immediately going to trade it in. Exciting main game money, still-difficult-to-win bonus round. Right in keeping with the trend. And anyway, I've seen numerous bonus round puzzles where I would have needed two or three extra consonants in order to pick the letter that gives the puzzle away. I doubt that'll change.
--
Scott Robinson
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[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'128375\' date=\'Aug 21 2006, 05:34 PM\']But if they increase the number of bonus round wins, then they're going to have to decrease the extreme dollar amounts in the main game. And they clearly don't want to do that.[/quote]
I'm not expecting this to turn into the late 80's, early 90's where you could solve a bonus puzzle with your eyes closed. I would consider the Wild Card to be a success if we averaged about 2 bonus wins/week.
It also helps if there's some smarter bonus game play, but that's another topic.
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Sorry for not posting here in a long time.
I like the idea of the boosting more money into the Jackpot. If the show wants to give away more money, more power to them.
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' post=\'128463\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 01:45 PM\']
Sorry for not posting here in a long time.
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Please, don't be.
I like the idea of the boosting more money into the Jackpot. If the show wants to give away more money, more power to them.
Of course you do.
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What I'd like to see is a player who knows the puzzle show some spunk and keep spinning for more dough.
Oh, that's right, they quit doing that about 18 years ago.
What surprises me is that they haven't bunged up Jeopardy nearly as much as Wheel. They could easily hide a couple of bonus cards on the board like Daily Doubles--a Pizza Hut Jackpot card, or the Mountain Dew wild card. Or a $600 PacSun gift certificate instead of cash. Thank heavens they haven't, of course.
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'128473\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 04:45 PM\']
What surprises me is that they haven't bunged up Jeopardy nearly as much as Wheel. They could easily hide a couple of bonus cards on the board like Daily Doubles--a Pizza Hut Jackpot card, or the Mountain Dew wild card. Or a $600 PacSun gift certificate instead of cash. Thank heavens they haven't, of course.
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I'm surprised that they haven't allowed sponsorship for the existing Daily Double answers.
<Alex Trebek> The answer is.....A Domino's Daily Double!! Call your local Domino's before the end of the show and get two large Deep Dish pizzas for the price of one!!! Now, Marge, how much do you wish to wager on the category of French Cuisine? </AT>
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[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'128473\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 02:45 PM\']
What surprises me is that they haven't bunged up Jeopardy nearly as much as Wheel.
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Frankly, I think the sponsored categories (and if you don't think that special category about E! isn't fetching a fee plug, you're not thinking) are quite enough bunge.
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Yeah, Jeopardy was never about product placement. Wheel of Fortune always was. I mean, you went shopping after every round. How does that not scream for plugs?
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I like the concept of the wild card, but the name is horrible. In every other game I can think of (including a certain Barry and Enright game Harry's going to be working on) something "wild" allows you to choose any possible outcome that would otherwise be dictated by random chance. (In other words, my concept of a true "wild card" on Wheel would mean that you got to pick the space, not just repeat what you landed on before.)
Why not call it what it is, an extra letter? "That's the extra letter card. If you land on it and call a letter that's in the puzzle, you'll be able to exchange it for an extra letter after any spin, or the bonus round."
My guess is that it will go the way of the Double Play: Good idea, but dumped after a year as "too confusing."
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' post=\'128463\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 04:45 PM\']
I like the idea of the boosting more money into the Jackpot. If the show wants to give away more money, more power to them.
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Not to put words in your mouth, but do you think that giving away $100,000 for playing Hangman was a good idea?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'128531\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 07:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' post=\'128463\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 04:45 PM\']
I like the idea of the boosting more money into the Jackpot. If the show wants to give away more money, more power to them.
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Not to put words in your mouth, but do you think that giving away $100,000 for playing Hangman was a good idea?
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Look at who you're talking to.
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[quote name=\'Unrealtor\' post=\'128527\' date=\'Aug 22 2006, 10:12 PM\']I like the concept of the wild card, but the name is horrible. In every other game I can think of (including a certain Barry and Enright game Harry's going to be working on) something "wild" allows you to choose any possible outcome that would otherwise be dictated by random chance. (In other words, my concept of a true "wild card" on Wheel would mean that you got to pick the space, not just repeat what you landed on before.)
Why not call it what it is, an extra letter? "That's the extra letter card. If you land on it and call a letter that's in the puzzle, you'll be able to exchange it for an extra letter after any spin, or the bonus round."[/quote]
It becomes any possible letter that would otherwise be dictated by external circumstances, one of which being chance? Maybe?
Do you think we should even try to figure out what Harry Friedman is thinking? Okay, stupid question, but the point is that this is Harry's idea, and there's probably a decent reason it's called what it's called. (Probably because Double Play was already used, but hey.)
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As time has gone on, and I've mulled over this "Wild Card" idea a bit, I've realized it's not the most horrible idea I can imagine being put into WOF at this point (not even close). In fact, if they were to eliminate it being able to be used in the bonus round, I'd support it 100%.
In the end though, I have a feeling it will have a pretty similar fate as the Double Play space. Either way, no skin off my back...
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'128372\' date=\'Aug 21 2006, 05:16 PM\']
I think the only way the US Wheel could adapt that bonus letter policy would be to tie it into the number of puzzles won. (Like maybe one extra letter per 2 puzzles) [/quote]
Or start with three consonants, and give ONE extra per puzzle solved.
To be honest, anything that could potentially increase the number of bonus round wins is a good thing.
I don't agree. I think a bonus prize should be hard to win. And it's not as if--considering the high values on our wheel--contestants are exactly going away empty-handed.
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Why hasn't Friedman fiddled around with "J!" like he has with "Wheel?" Because you can't. The format's too rock solid to fiddle around with and the sort of sponsorship things that "Wheel" does are out of place on "J!" Friedman does realize that they are different shows and treats them like different shows, not as just two game shows.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'128699\' date=\'Aug 23 2006, 03:18 PM\']
Why hasn't Friedman fiddled around with "J!" like he has with "Wheel?" Because you can't. The format's too rock solid to fiddle around with and the sort of sponsorship things that "Wheel" does are out of place on "J!"
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They're not exactly "in" place on "Wheel," though.
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I like the idea of the Wild Card, since it gives the good players a chance at more money. (I also think the top dollar should have peaked at $1,500, so what the hell do I know). The Jackpot wedge should be what it was originally, a bonus. If you don't think you can solve the puzzle, aim for something else. There's no reason to make the change.
I'm not sure why Harry feels the need to change Wheel at all. I can get by with one change a year, and a few of them have been for the better (ditching shopping, the mystery round and a few other things I forget) but a whole bunch of the changes, mostly the visual presentation, have eaten dog. Stick with a good thing.
But then again, I'm just one viewer.
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I may be showing my WOF "nerd-dom" here, but I noticed this and wondered if anybody here could confirm.
While watching the intro Pat and Vanna did this evening, about how 1 year ago, they were taping the shows in New Orleans, they showed part of the wheel, and it appears the colors were changed (note: not the Wheel's layout), maybe they showed what the "new" wheel layout will be. I saw a blue $500, and a pale pink $900, for example. They may have rearranged other parts of it not shown, but it wouldn't be a bad thing though if they were to rearrrange its layout anyway, since it's been the same now for about 10 years.
Sure, its not a major change, but since Wheel is going HD, this could be an appropriate change, to show off their new technology with a new rainbow of colors. Or, is this just showing that my TV is on the fritz? :/
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I'm thinking that this is showing that your yard could probably use some maintanance. :)
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For the terrible geeks among us: Some of the colors have changed, but the amounts remain the same.
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Sorry to revive a really really dead post, but thanks to GSNN for finally figuring out the date of the additions (I never watch WOF so I never check the site). Wild Card, and I'm guessing the new Jackpot rules since a new Jackpot space is coming, will debut this coming Monday, October 23rd.
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The new Jackpot rules (involving multiples of $500) have been in place since the start of the season, unless there are even newer ones that I don't remember.
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Oh, really? Wow, I apparently missed that. I generally watch the first episode of the season just to see what they have done the upcoming season, and I apparently missed that. Sorry.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'135074\' date=\'Oct 19 2006, 11:02 PM\']
Sorry to revive a really really dead post, but thanks to GSNN for finally figuring out the date of the additions (I never watch WOF so I never check the site). Wild Card, and I'm guessing the new Jackpot rules since a new Jackpot space is coming, will debut this coming Monday, October 23rd.
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So if you never watch WOF, what do you care?
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Because other people do and I thought I'd share the news. Also, I kinda write on a semi-popular news site, so, you know, why not.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' post=\'135085\' date=\'Oct 20 2006, 02:31 AM\']Oh, really? Wow, I apparently missed that. I generally watch the first episode of the season just to see what they have done the upcoming season, and I apparently missed that. Sorry.[/quote]
It's possible that you missed it because the look of the Jackpot wedge is unchanged, and (at least on the occasion I remember) Pat didn't even mention its status as a $500 space until the contestant had landed on it and successfully called a letter.
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Yeah, Pat gave out the new rules on a need-to-know basis. I think the first Jackpot landing was in the 2nd week, which was when we were given the new rules.
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So is that the only new rule, as it were? Letters correctly guessed on a Jackpot spin are worth $500 to the player?
-Jason
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And hitting the Jackpot wedge adds $500 to the jackpot. Aside from ON THE MENU being renamed FOOD & DRINK, those are the only changes to the game until Monday's debut of the Wild Card.
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Hitting the Jackpot wedge is worth $500 to the player IF they cannot immediately solve the puzzle. If they do, they win the Jackpot instead. I think the Jackpot goes up by $500 regardless.
It's kinda like the Mystery Wedge, but not.
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' date=\'Oct 22 2006, 02:16 AM\'] Hitting the Jackpot wedge is worth $500 to the player IF they cannot immediately solve the puzzle. If they do, they win the Jackpot instead. I think the Jackpot goes up by $500 regardless.
It's kinda like the Mystery Wedge, but not. [/quote]
Ah, but you are wrong, my persistent friend!
From the Wheel "Contestant Briefing Checklist" dated 12 July 2006:
"Each time the Jackpot is landed on, $500. will go into the pot. Also the contestant will receive $500. for each correct consonant in the puzzle."
Case in point, from the 10 Oct 2006 episode, Troy elects to spin, with $650 in front of him and $7,700 in the jackpot. Troy hits the Jackpot wedge, uncovers one L, and solves. While Pat never mentioned either $500 addition, Troy's winnings for the round were $9,350 ($650 + $500 for the L + the now-$8,200 jackpot).
Strangely, the show's official rules are ambiguous in that section, but they clearly go by the wording in the briefing checklist.